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Speaker 1: minute information came to hand delaying that decision last night.

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Speaker 1: oh boy, what on earth happened last night?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think anybody was expecting that it. Firstly,

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Speaker 3: about four hundred people came up, came to show that

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Speaker 3: vote was canceled. So I've heard this morning on the

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Speaker 3: ABC that it was because of potential cultural significance on

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Speaker 3: It's been going on for almost a year for us,

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Speaker 3: But we respect the mayor and that's his privilege that

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Speaker 1: Basically, James, as as you mentioned, a cultural significance was

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Speaker 3: All I know is what the mayors said. I know

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Speaker 1: James, Given what happened last night, what's next for you

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Speaker 3: Uh, well, we'll just have to We'll just have to

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Speaker 3: stay alert and just watch it as it progresses, keep

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Speaker 1: James, are you aware of when this might be voted

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Speaker 3: There's no timeline, so it's sort of back to limbo.

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Speaker 3: So the media is really across this now, so anything

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Speaker 1: For James, we'll have to leave it there place keeping contact.

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Speaker 1: This is one that we'll be covering. We are just

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Speaker 1: But yeah, look, keep in contact with us, and yeah

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Matt, thanks for ham on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks James, that's James Parker from the dict Chair Cinema

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Speaker 1: there and as we mentioned all day yesterday we've been

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Speaker 1: But as we've just heard, Lord met condat Scala says,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning, that good morning listeners. Step and

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Speaker 1: a us James before what happened last night.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, but we've been the do I no, but

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Speaker 1: As I understand you, you had spoken to the Larachie

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Speaker 2: we have already spoken to them and they said there

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling after last night?

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Speaker 2: Well, I would have liked to have it all over

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Speaker 2: not sure where we'll go from here. We'll just have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think it will be enough to stop

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's one for the politicians, i'd say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was such a last minute decision. I almost

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Speaker 1: But something's come up between then and now which has

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is a surprise to me too, but as

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Speaker 1: Yes, what's next for you and the RSL? I mean

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Speaker 1: if the Laracare people come forward and ultimately counsel saying, look,

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Speaker 1: this is not a site that you can build on anymore.

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Speaker 1: What's next?

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Speaker 2: We go back to our members and we discuss where

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Speaker 2: we'd like to go next. Yeah we've always got Kavanagh Street.

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Speaker 2: But we'll go back to the members. The members decision,

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Speaker 2: and let the members decide what they want to do.

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Speaker 1: Does it feel like, after this hurdle last night that

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Speaker 1: this almost might be too hard? I mean, you've had

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Speaker 2: Well, this one might be too hard, but there's always

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Speaker 2: of a defeasis, aren't you so?

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Speaker 2: Looking at new ways if this falls over, we'll be

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Speaker 1: Yes, were you surprised it the amount of people that

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Speaker 4: No? Not really.

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Speaker 1: From what I could gather from the reports that we've seen,

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Speaker 2: We weren't there to bully the counsel into which way

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Speaker 2: listen to it, well that's their luck.

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Speaker 4: Best of luck to them.

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Speaker 1: I did answer this question yesterday, but I'll ask it

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised at how divisive this has been?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I have been a bit there.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that that site down there being

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Speaker 4: A war grave area, that would have been a bit

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Speaker 4: more positive. I would have.

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Speaker 1: Thought if the new information that's come to hand does

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Speaker 2: Oh? Not very much. Well, we've done is the just done?

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Speaker 2: The plans are employed a couple of people.

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Speaker 4: We haven't. We only had the plans and the thing's

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Speaker 4: So we've just gradually moved step by step.

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Speaker 2: Now, once we've got the council approval, then we moved

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Speaker 1: OK, what's next? I mean you're aware of when this

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Speaker 1: could be a drawn out process. Now what happens for

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Speaker 2: Next It could be drawn out. I honestly don't know

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Speaker 2: what will be the next step. That's up to the

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Speaker 2: Council's decide what they want to do, and we'll play.

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Speaker 4: It by year as we go along.

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Speaker 2: And look, we won't know exactly what's going on for

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Speaker 2: what's going to happen here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we are catching up with the Lord Mayor

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Speaker 1: certainly see what more information we can get from him.

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Speaker 1: to leave it there. Thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Matt