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Speaker 1: I have a new favorite TikTok creator. It's not a
Speaker 1: beauty blogger, it's not a finance bro. It's the NEPO
Speaker 1: baby of the century, Northwest Yay's daughter, Kim Kardashian's daughter.
Speaker 1: She is a big deal on TikTok. Her account, Kim
Speaker 1: and North or North and Kim, is a parent controlled account.
Speaker 1: Apparently Kim controls it. Very futuristic, it is, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Where she posts pretty much every day. It very much
Speaker 1: gives the impression that she doesn't go to school. She
Speaker 1: just hangs around the house making videos.
Speaker 2: It's very much like I would.
Speaker 1: Have done that stuff when I was nine or ten.
Speaker 2: My role she is. I guess all content creators give
Speaker 2: the impression that they don't work.
Speaker 1: That's a really good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with posting, Yeah, I don't really see behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: True. True. And she is my favorite account because the
Speaker 1: other day I was watching her and Chicago, her little sister,
Speaker 1: who is the spitting image of Kim. Can you see
Speaker 1: how involved I am?
Speaker 2: Like you have the you know what's going on, I've
Speaker 2: got the family tree I'm like, okay, you are subscribed.
Speaker 1: I actually don't follow any of the Kardashians. It's not
Speaker 1: because I don't get like it's not because I don't
Speaker 1: like them. Yeah, I just don't follow them for whatever.
Speaker 2: This is exactly how it works a parent control of
Speaker 2: TikTok account. It's a pipeline to get more customers, they say,
Speaker 2: you know, in social media, anyone trying to build like
Speaker 2: a profile and the entertainment industry, the younger your fans are,
Speaker 2: the better because you have a longer shelf life with them.
Speaker 2: The Kardashians are quote unquote aging out of their primary
Speaker 2: demographic because they've had children. That's a whole new generation.
Speaker 2: Their core fans don't even have children yet. So when
Speaker 2: you bring in the babies, it's like, whoa wait a second,
Speaker 2: I get full family content. It's very genius.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this more because I can't
Speaker 1: decide if it's actually because Kim and the family you're
Speaker 1: using this as a money making technique, or if North
Speaker 1: just absolutely loves making videos. See I see that concept.
Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense to the Kardashians. But
Speaker 1: I have a feeling the Kardashians in some part like
Speaker 1: I think they're obviously so orchestrated, but so much stuff
Speaker 1: has happened to them that isn't just orchestrated, like Kim
Speaker 1: getting like Kim getting taken hostage in Paris, or like
Speaker 1: broken into obviously Caitlin transitioning, like these are stuff that
Speaker 1: would have happened to that family anyway. I guess, like
Speaker 1: the the break and enter wouldn't have happened if it
Speaker 1: wasn't Kim Kardashian. But I don't think everything is by design,
Speaker 1: Like for example, North's TikTok. I don't think that that's
Speaker 1: because they want to sell more product and like continue
Speaker 1: the dynasty. I think it's because North is just like
Speaker 1: a nine year old who wants to post things on
Speaker 1: the Internet.
Speaker 2: I disagree. Really yeah, if the average social media account
Speaker 2: says that you can't have access unless you're thirteen years old,
Speaker 2: and the only way you can if you have a
Speaker 2: parent controlled account, why would a family who's experienced that
Speaker 2: much just the worst of the Internet, expose their children
Speaker 2: to that. I don't think the Kardashians are like masterminds
Speaker 2: in the way that the media portrays them out to be.
Speaker 2: I think they're opportunists. And I think you'd be ridiculous
Speaker 2: to not understand the amount of like buying powered children have,
Speaker 2: especially and also how many Kardashians are there, like six seven,
Speaker 2: It's like two of them that are making up the
Speaker 2: bulk of the family's interests, right, it's Kylie and it's Kim.
Speaker 2: Back in like the first couple seasons where they were
Speaker 2: exploiting Courtney's relationship for the whole family to make a bag.
Speaker 2: Chris was the one who told Kim to sell a
Speaker 2: sex tape. Like, I don't think that they would view
Speaker 2: putting North on TikTok the height of exploitation. I think
Speaker 2: it's just a simple thing for that, it's an easy win,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I don't. I'm viewing
Speaker 2: it as like what it is. But I think if
Speaker 2: a family could do that, then putting a kid on
Speaker 2: Instagram to expand their sorry, putting a kid on TikTok
Speaker 2: to expand their reach isn't the most savage thing you
Speaker 2: could do, Like why wouldn't it just be like another
Speaker 2: tick on the box, Like these kids will make us money,
Speaker 2: let's do it.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting to me. I don't know why I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I think that North just wanted it so bad that
Speaker 1: Kim's like given in and said you can have the account,
Speaker 1: because it makes sense in that way because I don't
Speaker 1: have comments. So it looks like she's getting the best
Speaker 1: of the internet, which is being able to express yourself
Speaker 1: and have fun, like she's a creative?
Speaker 2: Is that the best of the internet for a nine
Speaker 2: year old?
Speaker 1: Though, well, not having comments is better than the worst,
Speaker 1: so there's some protections there obviously. Then you get the
Speaker 1: accounts that repost them so people can talk about it there.
Speaker 1: But in my mind I relate to being like nine
Speaker 1: years old and using my parents' camcorder and just wanting
Speaker 1: to share things. Yeah, so I believe that she just
Speaker 1: loves it, But again I think it's an opportunity then
Speaker 1: for them to sell stuff eventually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think celebrity kids aren't regular kids, and I
Speaker 2: understand like they probably have a bit more like I
Speaker 2: can understand viewing a celebrity kid like a regular kid
Speaker 2: and saying like kids want stuff, and so why wouldn't
Speaker 2: a parent, But I also think, like it's a celebrities kid,
Speaker 2: At what point has it ever been good to give
Speaker 2: real people that much access to a person, let alone
Speaker 2: a child, Like parasocial relationships are what caused stalkers, robberies,
Speaker 2: all of these things. And then you give just like
Speaker 2: we just got off the back of Epstein, Epstein Island,
Speaker 2: Pizzagate wayfair, Like, in what world are you like presenting
Speaker 2: a child to the world and saying like she just
Speaker 2: wanted to play? Does she not have friends that are offline?
Speaker 2: Can she not just make videos and not post them?
Speaker 2: Do you know? Like, I just think it's a very
Speaker 2: like particular way to present the child to the world.
Speaker 2: And that's right because she is a child. So she's
Speaker 2: a childis yeah.
Speaker 1: And you really do, like I don't think of her
Speaker 1: as a child.
Speaker 2: That's so other saying because I also agree in the
Speaker 2: sense like I don't like obviously it's clearly like I
Speaker 2: don't like the whole Northwest thing on the internet. I
Speaker 2: think it's cooked. But it's because I think that the
Speaker 2: average viewer really struggles to humanize people they see through
Speaker 2: their phones, whether it's a parent, child, person going through heartbreak,
Speaker 2: police brutality, whatever it is, people kind of like glaze
Speaker 2: over it as like a huh, that's an interesting thing.
Speaker 2: I saw on this device next, And I think people
Speaker 2: just can't fathom that, like even like this much conversation
Speaker 2: about a child, like what she wears, what she looks like,
Speaker 2: that she's inspirational, that people are getting advice from her,
Speaker 2: or that she's icon. She's a kid, and like your
Speaker 2: inability to see her as just a kid is the
Speaker 2: weird thing, because like that's all we should be relying on.
Speaker 2: We should have enough like context to be like kids
Speaker 2: are kids and adults are adults. The two shall not blur.
Speaker 2: But now we're kind of like, wait, she's a content creator,
Speaker 2: like weight, she's like more than that, and it's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: just a kid.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it goes into all child stars in
Speaker 1: a sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely we.
Speaker 1: Need child stars. But I guess there's cgr now Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess it's.
Speaker 2: So fraught with because I think when you're a kid,
Speaker 2: you feel old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel as old as you are, And so
Speaker 1: I think it'd be hard to explain to a child,
Speaker 1: like I, yeah, explain to a child that other people
Speaker 1: have different intentions. Like even when I was like in
Speaker 1: my early teens, if men were interested in me, I thought.
Speaker 2: Of course they are I'm different. I'm not uly hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you get to the age of twenty four
Speaker 1: and you really, guys, no, that was weird.
Speaker 2: This was weird. This was weird.
Speaker 1: So it would go all the way back to when
Speaker 1: you're a little kid. So definitely, hopefully I will say
Speaker 1: that ASMR videos are popping, That's all I'll say.
Speaker 2: And I will say in ten years time when Northwest
Speaker 2: comes out and says I'm so annoyed to my parents
Speaker 2: because I was exploited, We'll just leave that, like every
Speaker 2: Disney child actor is, like I didn't want to do it.
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