1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to fearlessly Failing hot Seat. In this EPP, I 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. PS, 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be answing you. I'm not so good at 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the awesome answers. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Now a new EPP is going to drop every Wednesday, 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: so enjoy this shortest style episode of fearlessly Failing Hot Seat. 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the hot seat. Full name my friend. 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: Reyese Carter no middle middle ree Andrew Carter. Oh, and 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: nobody calls me that. 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite meal? 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: I mean it sounds very generic with pizza? 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Okay you no? No? What's what's on top? 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: I thought the whole joy that was pizza could have 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: anything on top? 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Are you a pineapple person? 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: I am a pineapple per Yuma. 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Americans can't stand anthobis on a pizza. 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: Do you know I want anchovies on everything? 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Same you and me both. 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Maybe not with the pineapple. 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm with you on that one too. 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite song? 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: Oh? Favorite song? Okay? All I want for Christmas is you. 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: I thought you were to give me a tea swizzle like, oh. 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: My God, I should have been Taylor Swift. I am 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: a Taylor fan. But I also love Christmas and I 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: love that song, so it's a double. 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: Love Christmas so much. Also, I love Halloween so much, 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: so your book is perfect for Halloween. 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Halloween and I'm hoping that I'm going 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: to see people dressed up as my characters next Halloween. 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: One thousand million percent, one thousand million percent. What's the 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: bravest thing you've done. Bravest thing I've done, I think 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: is write this book. Yeah, like it's it might be 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: a book about ghosts and witches and everything else, but 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: it has an emotional heart to it that is really 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: important to me. 38 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: And putting that out there so that people can read 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, that felt brave. 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Which is called the book is called A Girl Called 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Cops and it's officially out now good Crimbo Prosy as well. 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: It is Okay. So if you weren't, I feel like 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I might know the ns is. But if you weren't 44 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: a writer and creating books for awesome kiddos like the is, 45 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: what would you be doing? Because when we met, you 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: were a natural pathom well when we. 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Met, yeah, I was a naturopath and then I worked 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: as a nutritionist and we worked in health and wellness. 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't go back to that now. Maybe I 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: would like open a resort for cute dogs somewhere. 51 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: I feel like you've got a very long career ahead 52 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: of you of writing books like this. So you're set. 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: Do you have a fear? 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: I do it? Let's come back to this. 55 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you know it's the most interesting bequition. 56 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people say needles? 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: Really? 58 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and death they're the two big, big guns that 59 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: come up. But have a think you can sit on 60 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: that one. 61 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: I'll sit on that one. 62 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: You will like this next question? What would your superpower 63 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: be if you could have one? 64 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Without a doubt, my superpower would be flight? 65 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, quick flight, Like, would you want to get somewhere quickly? 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: I'd like to take my time? Yeah, I would like 67 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: to take my time. Yeah. The other one is invisibility. 68 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: But someone told me once that if you say that, 69 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: you must be shifty, because what are you trying to 70 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: get away with? 71 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Oh? No, invisibility is so handy A shifty lola. Probably. Okay, 72 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: would you say you've had a. 73 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Failure, I would say I've had a lot of failures. 74 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: I would say that. I would say I've had multiple failures, 75 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: even in writing, even in my writing career, I've had 76 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: a lot of failures. But I would say that my 77 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: view of what a failure has been has changed. So 78 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: I would say the first three books I wrote technically failures. 79 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: But if you see a failure as a diversion rather 80 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: than a end of the road, then failures are fine. 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. If you had a spirit animal, 82 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: what would it be? 83 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: Giraffe? Oh? Yeah, you're very tall, one hundred percent. I 84 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but whenever I see a giraffe, 85 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, brother, And then what say? 86 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: Your favorite animal is. 87 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: A very specific answer for that would be Hagrid my dog? Yeah, 88 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: of course, generically, also giraffe. What is Hagrid's breed? Hagrid 89 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: is a flat coated Retriever, so he's much like a 90 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Golden Retriever, but jet black and they stay puppies forever. 91 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: So he's forty five kilos of tornado energy. 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Amazing. What's something that moved you recently? 93 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: Something that moved me recently was a book my b 94 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: Something that moved me recently was a book by my 95 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: friend Tobias Man Anything but Fine. It's a queer YA story, 96 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: and I think that as a gay guy myself, it 97 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: kind of the Luca's story in it felt so relatable, 98 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: and you know, I didn't often get a chance to 99 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: read stories like that when I was a teenager, so 100 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: it really kind of a tear to my eye. 101 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: I have to. I have to read this because I 102 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: loved Holding the Man, which is probably not Ya. 103 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: Holding the Man is probably a little bit older. Yeah, 104 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 2: but a beautiful, beautiful book. That's a gut wrenching book. 105 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: You've seen the movie as well, I have incredible Yes. 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: So good. I mean, it's such a classic. I love 107 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: Holding Man, but Anything but Fine is kind of much 108 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: more warm and fuzzies, and it's that kind of that 109 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: kind of moving. 110 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: Sign me up. I'm totally going to read this. Okay, 111 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: So this is a hard question for you. So I'm 112 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: actually gonna put this next one. I'm going to reverse. 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a different question before it because I 114 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: feel like you're going to be Yeah, So do you 115 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: have a favorite movie? First? 116 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: Hocus Pocus? 117 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Have you watched the second? 118 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: And the second one was really good? Have you seen it? 119 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: I've met that I've Scott it on Disney Plus to watch, 120 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: but I've met the costume designer and he was showing 121 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: me all the costs. 122 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: Amazing. It's so good because it's a it's kind of 123 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: strong enough, it's a strong story on its own that 124 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: it stands on its own two feet. But if you 125 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: love hocus Pocus like me, there are enough kind of 126 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: tips of the hat and nods to the original that 127 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: you feel it's very satisfying. 128 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: Well, he was saying that even about the costumes. He 129 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: was like, we had to make them nod to the 130 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: original so that it he didn't veer too far away 131 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: from it. 132 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: It's so interesting and you can just tell that that 133 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: Catherine and Jimmy, Bette Midler and Sarah Jessica Parker are 134 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: all having the time of their lives. They really look 135 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: like they just had so much fun filming it. And 136 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: that's what it should because it's such a fun movie. 137 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Okay, watching that as soon as I get home as well. Okay, 138 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: so I'm going to go to the question that I 139 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be hard for you. Do you have 140 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: a favorite book? 141 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: I actually do, The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman. Have 142 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: read down so it's middle grade as well. It's about 143 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: a It has quite a dark premise, but so it's 144 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: about a boy who parents are murdered. We don't know 145 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: who by. We see it happen at the start of 146 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: the book, but we don't know who the figures that 147 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: does it. And he's a baby and he manages to 148 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: escape and he makes his way up to a graveyard 149 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: where he is raised by the ghosts there. So we 150 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: see his entire childhood being raised by these ghosts, which 151 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: sounds like, oh my god, that is so dark, But 152 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: the sense of family he has with these ghosts is 153 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: so warm. And I think that that's what I love 154 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 2: about that kind of dark story for kids in general, 155 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: is that it has to be balanced out. The darkness 156 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: has to be balanced out by warmth and humor and 157 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: lovely things. And so I think that it's a really 158 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: beautiful story. 159 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: This is why I keep coming back to I'm going 160 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: to send you clips from it as soon as we 161 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: get off this pod. Muscle the Shell with No Shoes, 162 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: with Shoes, Yes, please love it because it's about grief, 163 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: which is sad for anyone but kiddos, but it's so 164 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: warm and entertaining that you're just laughing and crying at 165 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: the same time. 166 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: Well, you need to be able to deal with these. 167 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: You need to be able to tell kids stories that 168 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: deal with difficult issues. We can't sugarcoat and pretend they 169 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: don't happen. And that's why you look at things like 170 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: do you remember the movie Soul? Yeah? Yeah, oh my god, 171 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: Like the character dies right at the beginning, and it's 172 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: about the afterlife, but it is so life affirming. And 173 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: I think that's what you need to be able to 174 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: do with kids stories. You talk about those dark things, 175 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: but in a hopeful way. 176 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: I hope is what gets me through. Like that's one 177 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: of my value systems to actually feel hopeful. And I 178 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: think that you can almost tackle anything uncomfortable as long 179 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: as there's hope. Okay, So what would you say is 180 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: your best habit? 181 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: Maybe tenacity my best No, that is right, though, my 182 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: I would say kind of. I would say discipline and 183 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: tenacity like I work hard. I would also say that's 184 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: my worst trade. Yeah yeah, if that's your next question, 185 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: it's also my worst trade because I don't know where 186 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: to I need to be better at putting kind of 187 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: boundaries in place. 188 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So I've got some weird questions now because this 189 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: is about facing fears and failing. Have you ever skydived? 190 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: No? Booked it three times, and all three times it 191 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: was cancer on the day due to weather. I was like, 192 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: that is a. 193 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Sign that what miss sharks? You're from WA? 194 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: Never done it. I'm terrified of sharks, And now you've 195 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 2: just I've answered the other question about my fear. I 196 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: am terrified of sharks. 197 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: But I feel like where you grew up, I know 198 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: you grew up more farmed, didn't you. 199 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like there are a lot of sharks 200 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: in WA, but we're not mates with them. No one 201 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: goes out of their way. I'm going to go looking 202 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: for a shark today. 203 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite holiday destination? 204 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: Favorite holiday destination would be duns Broke in the southwest 205 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: w A. It's says something about that place. I mean, 206 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: we have so much beautiful coastline in Australia, but there's 207 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: something about that in particular because I went there as 208 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: a kid with my brother and sister. The smells, kind 209 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: of just the colors, everything, it just triggers really fond 210 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: memories inside. And so I think that that allows a 211 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: certain kind of it allows me to relax more than 212 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: I could anywhere else. 213 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: And what about cities You've lived all over New York, Yeah, 214 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: the complete opposite. 215 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm like little Beach Village and New York. 216 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Do you know I remember from I think we had 217 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: this conversation at least seven years ago and you said, 218 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: I want to I can see myself writing in a 219 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: little apartment apartment in like you probably said, like Greenwich 220 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: Village or East Village or something. 221 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: Definitely would have been one of those two, because when 222 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: I used to go over and stay quite a bit, 223 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: I would always be in one of those two areas. 224 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: Loved it, that was weak had then that was what 225 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: I was going to be a writer in New York City. 226 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: Still still, would you call yourself an introvert or extrovert? 227 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: I am such an introvert, yeah, And I think people 228 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: are surprised by that because a lot of my career 229 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: has involved being quite visible. And yeah, there's been a 230 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: lot of public speaking and I can do that kind 231 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: of stuff, but I view it as performance, and when 232 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: I actually switch off after the performance, I am exhausted. 233 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: I can spend a lot of time on my own. 234 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: I am one million percent with you. Everyone's like no, 235 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: but you're so loud and confident. I'm like, no, no, no, 236 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: I then need to be a lone wolf. 237 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: See that surprises me as well. And I've known you 238 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: for twelve years or whatever it is that still surprises 239 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: me to. 240 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Hear no, no, no no after I've done something. But 241 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I can do the work thing like you, Like I'm 242 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: in a work mode. I can do public speaking whatever. 243 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: And then I'm like and don't need to talk to 244 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: humans for three days now, Please nobody call me. What's 245 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: the best piece of advice you've got? And if you 246 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: don't know, what advice would you give to someone? 247 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: So the best piece of advice I ever got. This 248 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: is going to sound a little bit strange because it 249 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: sounds really cruel and harsh, but it was actually so liberating. 250 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: Came from a psychologist I used to see. Because I'm 251 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: a very anxious person, right, and I worry about everything, 252 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: and I worry about what people think of me, and 253 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: I worry about circumstances that aren't ever going to happen anyway. 254 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: My psychologist says, he says, to meet Reese, stop overestimating 255 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: your own importance, which, like sounds really crushing, sounds really crushing. 256 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: But what he meant is no one else is thinking 257 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 2: about you nearly as much as you think they are. 258 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: People have their own stuff going on, and it was 259 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: so liberal. I was like, oh, yeah, why do I 260 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: think that that one little mistake I made six months 261 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: ago is you know, is still a big deal. Everyone 262 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: else was forgotten about it. He's like, don't have rest 263 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: make your own importance. 264 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, did you do that thing? When you'd 265 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: have a conversation with people? Then you'd be like, oh, 266 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: what do if I said that thing? And then did 267 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: I say it wrong? Or did they think that I 268 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: was being for me? I have a therapist as well, 269 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: but it's my boyfriend. That'll be like, Lola, they're not 270 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: even thinking about it. 271 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: Don't want Yeah, I don't care. I think it was 272 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: I saw. The same sort of advice was also put 273 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: in Shit's Creek. Did you watch Shit's Creek? 274 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: That Christmas episode? I watch every Christmas? 275 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: So good? Alexas says Todave what David is when he's 276 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: going to get his license. She's like, David, nobody's thinking 277 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: about you the way that you're thinking about you. And 278 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: I was like, that's exactly it, Like we fret on 279 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: as you say, these conversations we had a million years ago, 280 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: these little gaps we made, no one else thinking about it. 281 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: In fact, chances are they're probably worrying about something they 282 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: said to you, which you've also forgotten. 283 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: Totally, totally, totally, okay. If you could switch large to anybody, 284 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: who would it be? 285 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Nobody? I like mine? Oh, I like I. 286 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: Like that answer. And I know you've answered this in 287 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: the main pod. But if you have a little version 288 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: of this, any advice for a young writer, it's your 289 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: final question. 290 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: My advice for a young writer is to forget everything 291 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: you think you know about talent. I think talent is 292 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: a myth. I think that you know absolutely everybody by 293 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: virtue of being a human being, is a creative being. 294 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: And I think that you've got everything that it takes. 295 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: You just have to go and learn how to write, 296 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: because writing is a skill set that can be learned, 297 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: it can be taught, and once you've got those tools, 298 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: you'll have everything you need to shape your imagination into stories. 299 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: Hard work. Trump's talent every single every time. Thank you, Race, 300 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: You're wonderful.