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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jonesy and Amanda TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a biggie, isn't it. Yesterday it was

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Speaker 2: a tough day.

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Speaker 1: Parents were warned watch out for your kids on social

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Speaker 1: media because on Sunday night, Facebook live streamed a man

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Speaker 1: taking his own life that was taken down. It's since

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Speaker 1: been loaded onto TikTok where it was taken down, but

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Speaker 1: yesterday it's been constantly re uploaded. It appears in videos

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Speaker 1: with puppies and kittens. It's hidden in there, so kids

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Speaker 1: don't even know that they're seeing it. The way the

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Speaker 1: algorithm works is you don't even have to be a

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Speaker 1: friend of someone who wants to show it to you

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Speaker 1: for it to appear in your feed.

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Speaker 3: And it's rich and Facebook, isn't it. You can have

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Speaker 3: a mass shooting, you can have someone taking their own life,

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Speaker 3: but as soon as someone shows a nipple bob, they're

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Speaker 3: straight onto that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, these things have been taken down, but they're

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Speaker 1: finding with TikTok it is hanging around.

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Speaker 2: It's scary and the.

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Speaker 1: More you say don't look, don't look, kids might want

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Speaker 1: to look. But they don't get the choice here either.

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Speaker 1: So as parents to be alert, to the fact our

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Speaker 1: kids may need to have some context to discuss this

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Speaker 1: because it's very disturbing.

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Speaker 3: Do you realize we're on TikTok. I didn't even know

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Speaker 3: where on to this some of our content.

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Speaker 2: Oh my job, I saw the whole thing. She was

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Speaker 2: right up there in the air.

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Speaker 1: I saw it.

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody interesting. Well, let's look at the pros and

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Speaker 2: cons of TikTok.

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Speaker 1: It's a platform that people are saying for their kids,

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Speaker 1: can take us the edge off the stress of the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: and it unites a group with there's hashtags happy at.

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Speaker 2: Home, safe hands, don't worry, be happy, dance off. Lots

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Speaker 2: of girls.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's not a lot of It is very positive

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Speaker 1: content and rather than just passively looking at content, you're

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Speaker 1: uploading your own content. Of course, like all social media apps,

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Speaker 1: TikTok siphons your data.

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Speaker 2: This is all the downside.

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Speaker 1: It uses your email address, your context, your contacts, your

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Speaker 1: IP address, your geolocation information. TikTok is intrinsically linked to

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Speaker 1: the Chinese government. Really under Chinese law, they shared data

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Speaker 1: with a Chinese Communist Party, the CCP.

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Speaker 2: On it was just a I thought that was just

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Speaker 2: like an this is other ways and a lot of kids.

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Speaker 2: They found in New York Times found.

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Speaker 1: A third of TikTok's users, third of forty nine million

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Speaker 1: people are under the age of fourteen. And there is

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Speaker 1: some sexualized content on it. So and as we've seen,

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Speaker 1: you can't always control the kind of content that is

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 3: If you imagine if we had the technology that we

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Speaker 3: have now. And I was saying this to my youngest

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Speaker 3: he is born in an era post September eleven, and

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Speaker 3: he grew up with that, and then he grew up

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Speaker 3: with all this media, and I don't know how I

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Speaker 3: would deal with it if we weren't back in time.

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Speaker 3: When I was seventeen, my parents bought a VCR player,

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Speaker 3: and I thought that was the greatest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: Our children are very worldly because they get a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of information that my children are plugged into the politics

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Speaker 1: of the world, the social politics of the world.

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Speaker 2: There is a downside to it because of all this sharing.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough world for kids and parents to navigate.

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Speaker 2: But let's discuss TikTok. What do you think does it

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Speaker 2: pass the pub test?

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Speaker 3: Socially?

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Speaker 4: It just keeps growing and everything. If TikTok was around,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure. I mean an a social platform where people

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Speaker 4: can just post keep cost terrifying.

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Speaker 3: So our daughter is on TikTok and it's just really

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Speaker 3: worrying because she's done doing TikTok all her time, and

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Speaker 3: we just don't really know what she's looking at and

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Speaker 3: what she's doing.

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Speaker 4: Scary, I don't think so. I think there's so massively

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Speaker 4: stuff and parents are losing total control, kids growing up

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Speaker 4: ken years faster than they should. I think there's got

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Speaker 4: to be some sort of stuff the worldscale, nuts, roll

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Speaker 4: and stuff. So I no, I don't think it needs

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Speaker 4: to be more control.

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Speaker 3: Where are they going to see you in your tiny

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Speaker 3: bikini doing a dance.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll have to put it on a postcard and

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Speaker 2: send it to people

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Speaker 4: With joins and Amanda