WEBVTT - Is Dark Humour An Ick or Red Flag? 🚩

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, sweet Angels, It's Flex and Froom's podcast edition. This week,

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<v Speaker 2>I am telling you about this show I watch Little

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<v Speaker 2>Fires Everywhere by the author celesng It's the series adaptation.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't read the book, and I think it's too

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<v Speaker 2>late for me. I don't want to consume the same

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<v Speaker 2>bits of media in two different ways, especially because you've

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<v Speaker 2>said that the series differs from the book even worse,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know what it could have been.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I'm trying to do this thing where I don't

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<v Speaker 2>make every enjoyable thing I do monetizable in any capacity,

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<v Speaker 2>and so oh, I just share them in a social

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<v Speaker 2>way that is for me and my faves. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when I watched this show, my instinct was to tell

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet about it in detail, and I didn't knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that I would fire enjoy telling rooms about it now.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what you're gonna hear next Lot a Pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex Androms FLEXI.

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<v Speaker 4>A few days ago, I was telling you about my

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<v Speaker 4>Little lum Oh yeah, my fun times on Facebook Marketplace.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been sleeping, so instead I've been quelling my

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<v Speaker 4>brain by going on Facebook marketplace, And.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know someone who has a magenta Persian rug

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<v Speaker 2>for through me in pretty neat condition, please reach.

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<v Speaker 5>Out please, I'm desperate.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, when I was looking for some rugs, I came

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<v Speaker 4>across this other Facebook marketplace find. It was a pink, hot, hot,

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<v Speaker 4>pink bedside table.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in the hot pink.

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<v Speaker 5>I just my eyes are attracted to pink. What can

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<v Speaker 5>I say?

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<v Speaker 3>It's your favorite color?

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the thing that I found. It is

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<v Speaker 4>can't see the item anymore, but the title is three

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<v Speaker 4>tier Compo Nibbily style cabinet.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know what they are? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like these cylindrical cute retro cabinets and they

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<v Speaker 2>have these sliding doors and these holes look like eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>They're cute.

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<v Speaker 2>They're cute, and most of the replica in the market.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get a cute one for like fifty bucks

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<v Speaker 2>if you really want to very accessible.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm always on the fence about these cabinets because

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<v Speaker 4>I was always been in the always looking for a

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<v Speaker 4>bedside table. I don't want the mid century it's been

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<v Speaker 4>for me. Then the other day I bought one that's

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<v Speaker 4>black with like a wood top and a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>for books. It actually looked like it's meant for a

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<v Speaker 4>kid's bedroom. So it's not very sophisticated. It's not hitting

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<v Speaker 4>the brief. I don't know what I want to say,

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<v Speaker 4>bedside table. So I came across.

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<v Speaker 3>Tables are hard to buy it so hard, they're really hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, came across this one. You can see FLEXI. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a hot pisk, very cute, one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been screened at the moment? You sent four texts?

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<v Speaker 3>No response?

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<v Speaker 5>This is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It hurts, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 5>Message?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome you just like me?

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<v Speaker 5>You have this too?

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<v Speaker 3>You just like me?

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<v Speaker 5>I measure like, Hey D, where did you purchase this? Originally?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a fake?

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa? Why are you coming out the gate with an

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<v Speaker 2>attitude that attitude? Hey, I hope you're going well, really

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<v Speaker 2>love this piece. Just wanted to know where you purchased

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<v Speaker 2>it from.

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<v Speaker 3>Originally. I know i'd screen your message for sure. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I just why you want my data? You're my bank statement?

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<v Speaker 4>Then he didn't reply next day, hey D, I'm keen

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<v Speaker 4>to purchase this. Just interesting where it's from? Originally?

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks? No reply? Next manage your business, hey G.

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<v Speaker 4>Just trying one more time, and then I send him,

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<v Speaker 4>you can do this offer thing on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 5>Mic close. So you send an offer? Yeah, send the

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<v Speaker 5>offer then for how much? Fifty five? Just what it

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<v Speaker 5>was there for?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Nice?

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<v Speaker 5>He replies, When and where will you pick up dot? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>And I said Alexandria because I said it was in Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 4>No reply, one hour later, I can come this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't reply, one hour later, au tomorrow morning, no reply.

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<v Speaker 4>Then this morning I said, hey, d is this sold?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to pay a high price.

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<v Speaker 5>It's sold. I had lots of people wanting it. End

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<v Speaker 5>of conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I own one I can give to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's blue, though I don't know if you're in a

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<v Speaker 2>market for a cobalt blue.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean i'd consider it. I'll bite off you.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted the hot pink though, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you send me a photo of the blue one?

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<v Speaker 5>Please? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So alas, I'm learning, you're right, I should be nicer

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<v Speaker 4>in Facebook message, just regarding Facebook marketplace, but often I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't want to be too nice. I've learnt in sales,

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<v Speaker 4>don't be a pushover. You've got to meet them with aggression,

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<v Speaker 4>and then when you meet them they'll be like, oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, she's such a nice woman.

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<v Speaker 5>That's on that.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a good tip, though.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say I told you a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>ago that I've been having issues with getting trades to

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<v Speaker 2>my house to fix things, or just agreeing to any

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<v Speaker 2>time I'll send four messages in a row and get screens,

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<v Speaker 2>and another three get screen. But in that instance, when

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<v Speaker 2>I was leading with cute, jovial manners, no response. As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as you get terse the responses are flying in.

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<v Speaker 2>The job's getting done. I don't like what that's telling me,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just information. Do with it what you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This article on CNBC says work is good for you,

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<v Speaker 2>but only one day a week, scientists say, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was published in twenty nineteen, in the month of June.

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<v Speaker 2>They say that working eight hours a week is the

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote commended dose for optimum mental well being. According

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<v Speaker 2>to British scientists who surveyed more than seventy one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>working age people in the UK over a nine year period,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a serday.

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<v Speaker 3>None of them rinky dinks. We got a couple hundred people.

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<v Speaker 5>This is an instable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not an instable.

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<v Speaker 2>They put in work with it. So what they tried

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<v Speaker 2>to measure was your anxiety and your sleep habits, and

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<v Speaker 2>your general perspective on your life based on how much

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<v Speaker 2>or how little you work, to see if there was

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<v Speaker 2>any correlation that could be actually measured, not just presumed.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they noticed when people worked one day a

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<v Speaker 2>week that their risk of mental health problems reduced by

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<v Speaker 2>an average of thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they worked any more than one day a

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<v Speaker 2>week or eight hours, there was no measurable impact on

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<v Speaker 2>the quality of their mental health improving. It kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stayed in the state that it was in. So if

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<v Speaker 2>it's terrible, then it stayed kind of terrible. If it

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<v Speaker 2>was average, it stayed kind of average. And so if

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at work as a tool to improve our

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<v Speaker 2>well being physically, socially, culturally, mentally, then working more than

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<v Speaker 2>one day a week is never going to hit.

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<v Speaker 3>It for you.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to change that, according to this study, abolish

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<v Speaker 5>to get the four day work week. I think there's

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<v Speaker 5>like chat that that could come in, Yeah, one day work, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just go straight to the source one day. Because

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<v Speaker 2>if we start implementing these things small, small four days,

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<v Speaker 2>next ten years three days next ten years, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>get to it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying to go.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to be retired by then, yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 4>need I need help now, and by then.

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<v Speaker 5>I want someone to look after me. So we'll bump

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<v Speaker 5>back up to five days, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>So the point is, though, what jobs can we do

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<v Speaker 2>for eight hours a week that are going to fund

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<v Speaker 2>our life styles nowhere that we need it to. That's

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<v Speaker 2>an important question number two. As you said, if we

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<v Speaker 2>all start working eight hours a week, who's making us nas,

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<v Speaker 2>who's delivering the orders, the online shopping? Everything has to

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<v Speaker 2>change to accommodate this.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's delivering my youth foods? Apparently it is just one

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<v Speaker 4>day week because I didn't deliver my food last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Really yeah, thet a little refund.

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<v Speaker 5>I just couldn't. I was like, this is a sign

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<v Speaker 5>from God. It's not for me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Could be open in future brand sponsors, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>meant to be at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's a hot tip. I love studies and facts.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, it'd be interesting to see how the study would change.

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<v Speaker 2>Measuring Australians, all Americans, people in African countries who knows

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<v Speaker 2>could be could be heaps interesting. But for now, just

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<v Speaker 2>know that if you're assuming that more work is going

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<v Speaker 2>to make you more mentally sound, the studies are saying

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<v Speaker 2>that it's incorrect and contradictory.

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<v Speaker 1>Bastards, all right, this is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I was recommended to watch Little fires everywhere. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>about me is, I don't really think I'm too about

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<v Speaker 2>media generally.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Said verbatim, I watch a lot of bad shows. I

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<v Speaker 2>watch a lot of bad movies. I'm not like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind. I don't care if the acting is a

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<v Speaker 2>bit off. I don't care if the dub is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just here to enjoy. To me in the background, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that if a show is too good,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to watch it. Like Game of Thrones,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched past season two because I have to commit.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be on my phone. I need to know

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<v Speaker 2>the characters and how they're connected. And that's just too

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<v Speaker 2>much to what I watched TV for.

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<v Speaker 3>But this one, in.

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<v Speaker 2>Particular, I hadn't googled what it was about, just somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had recommended it, not even knowing my taste. I think

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<v Speaker 2>so I thought put in the background. It's not even

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<v Speaker 2>for me anyway, And I did, and I remember it's

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<v Speaker 2>the show's Little fires everywhere. It's got Reese Witherspoon and

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<v Speaker 2>Kerry Washington. I watched it on Amazon Prime, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure else you can watch it. Oh and if

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<v Speaker 2>in case you're interested, I got seven point seven out

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<v Speaker 2>of ten on IMDb, seven nine percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's good or bad. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>known to watch a five.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all good. But it's actually based off a book.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it the same woman who wrote Beg Little Lives?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me nah. That was by Leanne Moriarty and this

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<v Speaker 3>is by Celeste Energy.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's based in the book by the same name.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's an eight episode mini series. And the premise

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<v Speaker 2>follows the intertwined fates of the picture perfect Richardson family

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<v Speaker 2>and an enigmatic mother and daughter who up end their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>The story explores the weight of secrets, the nature of

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<v Speaker 2>art and identity, the ferocious pool of motherhood, and the

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<v Speaker 2>danger in believing that following the rules can avert disaster. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>had I read that before I watched it, I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been more interested because when I press play, I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like a Stepford Housewives, white picket fence, perfect

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<v Speaker 2>family type vibe. But then as we got to just

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<v Speaker 2>the climax of the show, when you realize why we've

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<v Speaker 2>watched six episodes so far, I was like, oh, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>we really are talking about little fires everywhere. This idea

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<v Speaker 2>that if you do not put out the fire, like

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<v Speaker 2>the figurative fire, if you do not you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you do not tell the truth, or if you do

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<v Speaker 2>not have the hard conversation, if you do not tell

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<v Speaker 2>someone how you feel, then in trying to avoid that fire,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna keep growing. That's what fires do. You turn

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<v Speaker 2>your back to a little fire, it's not just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go away in its own time. It's wafting, it's gathering,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tindering, it's flaming, and it will continue to grow

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<v Speaker 2>because just by nature, it's what fires do. And so

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<v Speaker 2>after having and generally I would pose these questions to

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<v Speaker 2>the internet, I would be like, I watched this movie

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<v Speaker 2>or this TV show and I have thoughts as talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, but I'm more interested in that I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>have this conversation with you. But when I had some

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<v Speaker 2>moment to myself, I was thinking, when is it a

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<v Speaker 2>good time to put out a little fire? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>just think you the more you think you can control

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<v Speaker 2>unavoidable things, the more unhappy you get, because you start

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<v Speaker 2>to blame yourself for everything that goes wrong in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't I do this sooner? Why didn't I ask

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<v Speaker 2>this person this question? Why did I make that decision?

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<v Speaker 2>Some things just happen, But in particular, if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>put out little fires when they pop up, then what

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<v Speaker 2>is the consequence?

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<v Speaker 3>And what is that? A learn from this? Living an

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<v Speaker 3>honest life is horr.

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<v Speaker 5>It's simply too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I just tell everybody flex is currently looking very comfortable?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm bush picking so hard.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got a gray mile track sit on, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a fantastic gray.

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<v Speaker 5>I must say. You're sitting on a high chair and

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<v Speaker 5>then you put your feet.

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<v Speaker 3>On another chair and no shoes, of course, not very much.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a bush pit. I wouldn't put shoes on

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<v Speaker 3>the chair.

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<v Speaker 2>But you do have socks, yeah, and these are fresh socks,

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<v Speaker 2>you even, But I'm just like legs spread or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they're elongated.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can tell in my tone, and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a good time.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing these. I got my chins resting on two

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<v Speaker 5>hands that I've got a hunch back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving sulky.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to read out this note I made after

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<v Speaker 2>watching the full season immediately, it's like a two am

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<v Speaker 2>note or Yeah, and so I said, little fires everywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it better to speak or die? Because that's a

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<v Speaker 2>common phrase idiom cliche, those little moments in life where

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<v Speaker 2>you betray yourself or you make a bad decision you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to unravel yourself from eventually go to

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<v Speaker 2>create little fires everywhere. When you choose not to speak,

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<v Speaker 2>you avoid putting yourself at risk to hypothetically avoid hurt. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the question becomes which is more painful, rejection or regret? Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>And I wanted to leave it there because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can only imagine if I was like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this thing on a thing, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>know what would starts like me just watching the show

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<v Speaker 2>and enjoying myself turned into like this discourse that I

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<v Speaker 2>want to have. But I do want to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>you about this idea of self betrayal because I find

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<v Speaker 2>that I do it more often than I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's because you just can't anticipate what the outcome

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<v Speaker 2>of a decision is going to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So would an example be you take a job,

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<v Speaker 5>for example, that you're not quite sure.

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<v Speaker 2>On a small scale, like let's say, you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>really wants to be my friend, and I'm like, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got all the friends I need, But who am I

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<v Speaker 2>to say no to someone who earnestly wants to create

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<v Speaker 2>a connection with me? Right, And so I might agree

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a lunch, what's the big deal? But

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<v Speaker 2>then I go to the lunch and it's insufferable. They

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<v Speaker 2>really rude or we just don't vibe as people, but

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<v Speaker 2>they feel really connected. And now I have to one

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<v Speaker 2>soft ghost them or two, you know, create this environment

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm telling this person they're not quote unquote good

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<v Speaker 2>enough to be my friend. That just feels like an

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<v Speaker 2>over commitment for what I didn't even want to do

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. And so not honoring that first

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<v Speaker 2>ping of being like, ugh, I didn't really want to

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<v Speaker 2>do this now created a little fire. And the longer

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<v Speaker 2>that I leave that brewing and to gather energy and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, it's getting out of hand. And when it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good time to tell this person, oh wait, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not gonna work out. That's one example of that,

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<v Speaker 2>And I've done it so many times in my life

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, I'll just let this simmer.

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<v Speaker 3>And then boom, it doesn't simmer. It turns into a wildfire.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean this is a tricky one though, because

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<v Speaker 4>I get what you mean. Like I've met people in

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<v Speaker 4>the past and we've semi vibes and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they want to hang out more. I want to hang

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<v Speaker 4>out more and it doesn't work. It's a tricky one

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<v Speaker 4>because I think sometimes you have that impulse to not

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<v Speaker 4>want to see the person again next minute. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>because you were in a funny way, so you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to take the leap. I think that's what you mean

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<v Speaker 4>as well. We'd like speak or die? Yeah, is it

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<v Speaker 4>keep quiet or die or speak or die?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's speak or die. I think it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>Coolly by your name, but I didn't watch that. But

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<v Speaker 2>so this idea of like self betrayal, like do you

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<v Speaker 2>follow like the initial ping of like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do that? Should that be enough to govern the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions you make? Just like I don't want to. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like it. I'm not comfortable, or even the

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that you can't put a phrase behind it just

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<v Speaker 2>gave me a weird vibe. Right, should that be enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Or should we be able to see things through so

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<v Speaker 2>we can know for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>That it right?

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<v Speaker 5>I think your instincts oft and right.

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<v Speaker 4>And like you say, if you see things through, you

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<v Speaker 4>get too deep to you can't do this seft ghost.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not really worth it to hurt someone's feelings

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<v Speaker 4>because you're not really hurt them. There's nothing worse than

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<v Speaker 4>being rejected in a friend space or in any context. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>this idea, because when I think about self betrayal, that

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<v Speaker 4>is so unique, Like you don't know in any given

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<v Speaker 4>day how far, Like you don't even know what you

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<v Speaker 4>want generally, right, Like I could want a ton of things,

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<v Speaker 4>I could not want a ton of things, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know when I'm doing things I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to do until I've probably done them, and then

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<v Speaker 4>in retrospect being like, okay, that wasn't for me. But

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<v Speaker 4>with that in mind, it's almost like reversing the cliche,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, all experience is good experience or honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>is the best policy. It's like, is it, like, what

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<v Speaker 4>would life be like we just trusted yourself fully to

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<v Speaker 4>be Like I caught a vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm following the vibe that to know from me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not doing that. I'm not going there, I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 2>in that. I'm choosing to do what I want because

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<v Speaker 2>I want feels very brave but also really limiting.

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<v Speaker 4>Rereads a certain personality or it's like certain personality people

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<v Speaker 4>do that and it's good if you always like that.

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<v Speaker 5>People just expecting it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I've got friends and I'm like, I know you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do what you want, and that's cool because that's you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard when you're trying to incorporate this later in

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<v Speaker 5>your life. Literally, hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tricky one.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we also talk about Kerry Washington's mouth acting and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just gone all around the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>But Chause, Yeah, she's a very particular math actor and

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<v Speaker 2>I think she I've only seen her in Scandal, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, based on what I've seen from her acting,

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<v Speaker 2>she plays the same character, which I love for her

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<v Speaker 2>because she does it well. But just like really intelligent

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<v Speaker 2>scorned woman. Yeah, someone's gonna do it and so does

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<v Speaker 2>Reese Witherspooner this rat. I don't know her story though,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really recommend the show. Not I like this

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<v Speaker 2>show as it is, but I wouldn't stop what you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing to go and watch it. Need a background show,

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<v Speaker 2>chuck it on. And I think it's a nice thinking

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<v Speaker 2>show in terms of trying to put yourself in the

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<v Speaker 2>perspective of any of those characters and saying, well, what

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<v Speaker 2>would I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Because stuff is too complex?

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<v Speaker 2>And I give it credit for and then I think, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>real people are living complex lives too, not just fictional characters.

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<v Speaker 2>I must be more empathetic, true shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Flex and Froomes On.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week we talked about the distinction between an ike

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<v Speaker 2>and IRK and a red flag. I have forgotten what

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<v Speaker 2>they are, but that doesn't matter because I was explaining

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<v Speaker 2>how some X can be IRK, some X can be

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<v Speaker 2>also red flags. They are separate but can have some correlations,

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<v Speaker 2>and you said, well, what's an example of that? And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, I could imagine for me, like a

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<v Speaker 2>having dark humor is a red flag, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine for other people that is a green flag or

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<v Speaker 2>at the very worst, an ick. And you said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what I love dark humor. That is a green flag

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I would look highly of someone with dark

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<v Speaker 2>humor as their preference. So let's get into it and

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<v Speaker 2>to put context around dark humor, let me not explain

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<v Speaker 2>it myself. Let's see what the Internet says incredible. We

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<v Speaker 2>can use that as our basis. Dark humor, also known

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<v Speaker 2>as dark comedy, is a style of comedy that makes

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<v Speaker 2>light of subject matter that is generally considered taboo, particular

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<v Speaker 2>subjects that are normally considered serious or painful to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>With my experience of people eligible people using dark humor,

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<v Speaker 2>they use it as maybe a opportunity to be racist, sexist,

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<v Speaker 2>homophobic without consequence, because you just don't get the joke,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like yeah, it's like anybody would say that,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody would think they'll lighten up or whatever. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had personal experience with dark humor that hasn't been anything

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<v Speaker 2>that's not sus and as quite a jokey person. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm in a social environment, I'm doing cackles, cackles, cackles.

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<v Speaker 2>I recognize that I might make people comfortable enough to

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<v Speaker 2>just like say what they want and how they feel,

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<v Speaker 2>because like, oh, that's what we're doing here, right, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we're doing and I've seen too much. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for your service. What is your definition of dark human?

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<v Speaker 2>Does differ from my experience with that? It does differ

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Dark humor is like British humor. It's making

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<v Speaker 2>fun of things that are taboo in a human way,

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<v Speaker 2>not in a social way, for example, making light of

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<v Speaker 2>death or other universal experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>I find British shows do it always really well because

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<v Speaker 4>they're stylistic and real and there's no happy ending. Like

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<v Speaker 4>to me, dark humor is not having any happy ending.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not corny, so I find it. I like watching

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<v Speaker 4>dark humor.

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<v Speaker 5>But as I'm getting older, would I want to date

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere with dark humor?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I've gone on dates with people that are yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>do do have dark humor and kind of like sadistic

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<v Speaker 4>or you know what I mean, Like they're kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it's a bit red hot, unwell or joking. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a cry for help?

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<v Speaker 3>Twice?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I have been that person as well, and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to be around that as I get older,

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<v Speaker 4>So I see the appeal of it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>it's a red flag. I think it's just a preference

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<v Speaker 4>that I wouldn't want to be around. But I've also

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<v Speaker 4>been the girly to want that. You know, It's one

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<v Speaker 4>of those things I wish I was with some edgy

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<v Speaker 4>like in that way. Who's because I think you have

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<v Speaker 4>to be somewhat self aware. But then you've got people

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<v Speaker 4>that do duckhument that are not at all I think

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<v Speaker 4>they're the types you're discussing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it was probably nick for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, I'm so sorry to do that for you

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<v Speaker 2>on any given day.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I'm I'm being quite specific about it

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<v Speaker 2>in the context of dating is that I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>ambiguity in dating anymore. I think knowing exactly what I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want is helping me see what I do want,

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<v Speaker 2>and being indifferent about too many things has put me

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<v Speaker 2>in too many environments that could have been avoidable, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So instead of being like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want someone who's funny, Okay, funny is broad, so

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<v Speaker 2>like let's narrow it down, and being like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>humor is good, I like, like sarcasm can be quite funny,

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<v Speaker 2>or being really witty and quick and punny.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even mind.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we get down to you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>about and I watch a lot of comedy on TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes up and I'm like, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not funny, and I laugh so much that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't want to sit and watch comedy

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<v Speaker 2>and not laugh. I don't understand why I'm not getting it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think if I saw a comedian, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>itsen no, because if it's gonna be this me wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to like ha ha, and I'm not even getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a scoff It's not gonna work for me, babe.

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<v Speaker 5>It's different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's different, breath.

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<v Speaker 2>I need conversational funny, just in an everyday conversation. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you make one laugh?

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<v Speaker 3>Not just me? Everyone once, everybody doing a little giggle,

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<v Speaker 3>giggle if they interact with you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's such a different thing.

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<v Speaker 4>One is like, I don't know if you've been on

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<v Speaker 4>a date with the comedian, but you can tell when

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<v Speaker 4>they're trying to test their material. It's doing bits so disturbing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, and you're not even gonna pay.

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<v Speaker 5>For the dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, a statistic.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, everybody who listens to this show and the podcast

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<v Speaker 4>knows one thing and one thing only. I'm a Karen.

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<v Speaker 4>Karen is like my star sign, and I'm a Fruomi rising.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure. And we have to emphasize that. People

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<v Speaker 2>think that I am the one who made you a Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>like I called you a Karen and thus your identifying

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<v Speaker 2>as such. No, no, no, that's one of the core

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<v Speaker 2>of Rumi's being. I'm even learning it for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>With you.

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<v Speaker 5>You're often disagreeing with me. You say, Karen a little angel.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes the Karen comes out.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, see it in the eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always when you it's when you were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you just call the police station.

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<v Speaker 1>You want what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, sometimes I use the Karen for good and I

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<v Speaker 4>use it for empowerment. Yes, a few weeks ago, I

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<v Speaker 4>was talking at an event. It was just me on

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<v Speaker 4>a stage and half an hour to Phil. I like

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<v Speaker 4>public speaking, but even when you're public speaking, it's quite difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>In a small room of people, you're talking and you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking at everyone in the eye. A certain amount of times,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a bit sexy. I'm cognizant of everybody who

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<v Speaker 4>is watching, trying to keep them engaged. Anyway, I was

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<v Speaker 4>probably like halfway through his talk and I thought I

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<v Speaker 4>was doing really well, and I look out to the

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<v Speaker 4>audience and I made a joke and this man in

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<v Speaker 4>the audience kind of like in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 4>audience threw his hands up in the air, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like what oh, and looked at me like kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like you know when you like a bicep curl, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of like e motion with the flick of the part,

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<v Speaker 2>like oh, what is this? But with two hands?

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<v Speaker 5>Two hands kind of like that emoji.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what situation I would be and to

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<v Speaker 2>make me raise both of my hands to do that, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you What was the vein of the joke? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you do? You remember?

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, oh, you know, and that person talks

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<v Speaker 5>so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so it doesn't sound really No, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was not offensive at all. It was it was

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<v Speaker 5>a dig at myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's like a quip.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a quip, yeah, harmless quick, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Something to tack on to the ends. Literally, I'm punctuation hafling.

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<v Speaker 4>And anyway, then I'm thrown off by that. Oh, because

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<v Speaker 4>you notice that when it happened. Yeah, I'm literally this

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<v Speaker 4>is in real time. My midway through a sentence, I

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<v Speaker 4>had to just collect my thoughts and continue the talk.

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<v Speaker 3>NDS one second, was he sitting or standing?

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<v Speaker 5>He was sitting. This is a sitting down event.

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<v Speaker 2>So sitting at the front or at the back. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to picture. Did anybody else see him do this?

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<v Speaker 2>He's sitting in the middle. The people that were my

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<v Speaker 2>friends who came were in the front. Oh, so no

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<v Speaker 2>one was behind him or around him. Really Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>finished the talk, I will walk out.

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<v Speaker 4>It went really well. I've got lots of praise. But

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<v Speaker 4>then I go to my friend. I'm like, did you

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<v Speaker 4>see that guy? She's like nah, I'm like, this guy

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<v Speaker 4>did this thing. I don't know if I'm being crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>and she's like, oh, no, that's probably nothing. But I

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<v Speaker 4>keep seeing him around. This is a long event that

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<v Speaker 4>we're at, like multiple talks. I keep seeing him around

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<v Speaker 4>the event, and it's bugging me, like, yeah, what was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because now he's in your history. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When the history books right about through me and this event,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll mention the weird guy who put his hands up.

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<v Speaker 2>Who shook them in disbelief as you were speaking, making

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<v Speaker 2>like quips. It's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're intertwined. I will be intertwined with this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this guy?

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<v Speaker 5>It's not part of the narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, delete it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sitting with my friends. I'm like, what am I

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do about this? This is really gonna bug me. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I need to go up to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this is good, and this is like I'm loving

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<v Speaker 2>this quality about you. Go you.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, something happened there. What's the worst that

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<v Speaker 4>can happen? I go up to him and he says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you suck dah da da. I'm like, well, Les, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>I know the reason why I politely disagree. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>waiting with my friends and I'm like, I think I

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<v Speaker 4>should say something, and they're not believing, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>say something. He walks over, just walk past us, and

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<v Speaker 4>I like, you know, when you're walking past them, and

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<v Speaker 4>he can see me in the proofery and I'm kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like giving him the eyes and smiling and he stops.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, hey, do I know you like pretending like

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<v Speaker 4>I recognize him. He's like, oh no, like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 4>just was looking at you. I feel like I really

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<v Speaker 4>recognize you. He's like, oh nah, yeah, I was in

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<v Speaker 4>your talk. He's like kai Im like, I'm x y

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<v Speaker 4>Z from x y Z Industry person shook his hand.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, yeah, I saw your talk. I really liked it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm thinking, what now, Like, is it in my head?

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<v Speaker 4>Did I completely make that? And because before he came over,

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<v Speaker 4>my friends were like, you probably made it up, like

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<v Speaker 4>you'd just be really hyper aware and sensitive. Then we

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<v Speaker 4>started talking and he was fully normal whoa, And so

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<v Speaker 4>I did make it up, but in the process made

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<v Speaker 4>myself feel better because I realized it wasn't in my head.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally rewrote the narrative. Yes, met a new contact and

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<v Speaker 4>we had a really nice interaction. We were like talking

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<v Speaker 4>about fashion and like really vibing, and then he walked

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<v Speaker 4>away and I thought, I'm so glad I said something.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if you see someone give you a greasy

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<v Speaker 4>and it really emotionally affects you, and now you don't

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<v Speaker 4>think there.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a reason approach them. Well, Also, this just goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to what we discussed, is it better to speak

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<v Speaker 2>or die? So many scenarios where it seems like, the

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<v Speaker 2>best option is to leave it, let it fester.

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<v Speaker 3>You can deal with it on your own. No stray.

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<v Speaker 3>So I forget that guy out. No, no, no, have

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<v Speaker 3>a chat. Speak speak if you feel safe too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I felt safe in that. You know, I'd done

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<v Speaker 4>my talk. It went well.

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<v Speaker 5>I was an industry event, and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Was I'm so impressed with you. That's really awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks. I was proud of myself too, he fleck and frooms.

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<v Speaker 4>I read this story recently. I reckon it was like

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<v Speaker 4>a week or two old. Honestly, I think it's right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been rinse, it's fresh in the media.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, apparently there's this study that suggests that birth control

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<v Speaker 4>might be curbing women's are.

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<v Speaker 5>Desire to achieve in what way? This is what it says.

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<v Speaker 4>In a world first University of Melbourne study of two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and seventy eight women found the participants who weren't

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<v Speaker 4>taking any hormonal contraception experienced an increase in their motivation

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<v Speaker 4>drive to achieve around the same time as ovulation. It

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<v Speaker 4>was six times larger than the motivational increase that was

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<v Speaker 4>expected by hormonal contraceptive users during the same time of month.

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<v Speaker 4>And they said that their desire had flattened.

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<v Speaker 5>Over the course of the month.

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<v Speaker 4>So what it suggests is if you take the pill

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<v Speaker 4>and it's changing your hormones, that might change how driven

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<v Speaker 4>you are to do work and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>Fascinating and the.

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<v Speaker 5>Lead researcher says, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>It blows my mud, and it shows there's a psychological

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<v Speaker 4>impact of the pill that.

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<v Speaker 5>Is taken by over one hundred million people per day.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred million in Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess the pill. There's not a hundred way.

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<v Speaker 3>You have never looked at me that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Your life, My idea of you was shattered into that moment,

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<v Speaker 4>shattered pieces. Yeah, Apparently one hundred million people take the

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<v Speaker 4>pill and then it can severely blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently I don't take the pill, so I can't confirm

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<v Speaker 2>or deny, But maybe my grind and hustle is directly

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<v Speaker 2>attributed to the fact that I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what the study is trying to say? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it seems very much in its infant stages this study.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's a study that's gotten some press

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<v Speaker 4>because supposedly younger people are not using contraception. Most of

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<v Speaker 4>my friends. I don't know anyone on the pill. Oh

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Brooks on the pill. We've got one on the pill.

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<v Speaker 4>You're the only adult woman I know that takes the pill.

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<v Speaker 4>What are your feelings with that? I go on and

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<v Speaker 4>off it occasionally, and that is just feel like a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a refresh.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that how it works?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not, but I mean it's just what I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Very interesting. Well, I haven't bone to pick up with

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<v Speaker 4>these studies.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a researcher, so I can't really give my

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<v Speaker 4>informed two cents, but I find the conversation around women's

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<v Speaker 4>health and particularly things around menstruation really interesting and really

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<v Speaker 4>touching because I think, on the one hand, that's interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to know that that could be the reason, because I

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<v Speaker 4>think we need to know more about why things like

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<v Speaker 4>the pill have negative side effects because I haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>that well researched in terms of longevity. But also I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want people to think. I don't want it to

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<v Speaker 4>like perpetuate this myth that women's hormones change their drive

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<v Speaker 4>and this, and that feels quite counteractive for what we're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do here.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and perhaps if we do find this is

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<v Speaker 2>the reason, well, then whose fault is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't I haven't had any personal experiences with

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<v Speaker 2>going to the doctor and being proscribed the pill for

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<v Speaker 2>acne or weight management.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm sure a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>People have, and so if they were over encouraged at

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<v Speaker 2>a young age or at a certain point in their

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<v Speaker 2>life to just jump on this lifelong medication, then there's

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<v Speaker 2>someone else to blame for this.

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<v Speaker 5>Literally, I was one of the ones that got it

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<v Speaker 5>for the skin, made the skin worse. You just never

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<v Speaker 5>know how it's gonna work for you. And I got

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<v Speaker 5>hor model migraines, which really dampened the vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's the study. We'll see what happens next. Always

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<v Speaker 4>good to be talking about these things.

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<v Speaker 5>Getting curious.

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