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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation five years ago. Daniel McPherson

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Speaker 1: Into Our Screens is a hut from Joel Summers on Neighbors.

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Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about all of that, but he's been working

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Speaker 1: consistently in the most exciting projects ever since, and he's

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Speaker 1: taking his acting to the stage. But what's been called

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Speaker 1: the most terrifying live theater experience in the world. It's

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Speaker 1: a show called The Woman in Black. Here to tell

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Speaker 1: us about it is Daniel McPherson.

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Speaker 2: Hollow Dan, Good morning guys, how are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: What makes this show so terrifying?

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Speaker 2: It's one of the originals. The Woman in Black ran

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Speaker 2: in the UK, ran in the West End for thirty

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Speaker 2: five years. It was based on a Gothic horror novel

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Speaker 2: written by an author, Susan Hill, and it's one of

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Speaker 2: the originals kind of the genre. It's this wonderful story

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Speaker 2: of this young lawyer in the early nineteen hundreds heading

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Speaker 2: up to the north of England to a haunted mansion

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Speaker 2: on a remote island off the coast. And it's told

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Speaker 2: through amazing classic English theatricality. It's got wonderful silences and

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Speaker 2: extended sort of tension filled moments and wonderful narration and

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Speaker 2: then great theater, classic theater tricks that you don't see

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Speaker 2: very often in modern theater, that really keep an audience

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Speaker 2: on their toes. About opening night at the Theatre Royal

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Speaker 2: last week with twelve hundred people screaking, screaming and shrieking,

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Speaker 2: and that's the kind of response you want. So it's

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Speaker 2: only John Waters and myself on stage for the entirety

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Speaker 2: of the show, one of the multitude of characters. But

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Speaker 2: we tell this amazing story that goes from the nineteen

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Speaker 2: fifties to the early nineteen hundreds and back into the

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Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds. Throughout this this mystical marsh land called

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Speaker 2: El Marsh House, and it's a great classic ghost story.

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Speaker 3: Well, I read the book and it was great, it

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Speaker 3: was really good. Well, and your players had people shrieking

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Speaker 3: in the audience. And usually Dan mcphirst when he walks

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Speaker 3: down the street, women shriek because they see him. But

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Speaker 3: these people are shrieking in fear.

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Speaker 2: And with that, with that, people throw throw wine over

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Speaker 2: themselves in the audience. You know, you can hear people

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Speaker 2: in the front going, oh, throws on, no, you know,

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Speaker 2: don't go in there, or don't go up the stairs,

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Speaker 2: or you know he's behind you. You next a little

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Speaker 2: there's a little bit of pantomime about it. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: When you when you're really when audiences get really scared,

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Speaker 2: they generally, you know, they start laughing at themselves and

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Speaker 2: they jump and they shriek and they laugh at each other,

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Speaker 2: and you can feel this this nervous sort of laughter

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Speaker 2: and tensions sort of permeate throughout the theater. It's it's

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Speaker 2: fantastic and every show is different, and every night is different,

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Speaker 2: and every audience reacts differently. But it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: wonderful experience.

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Speaker 1: But you don't often get scared in the theater, do you.

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Speaker 1: You hear songs or you laugh or you sob but

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Speaker 1: you don't often hear when people are a show that

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Speaker 1: scares you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's quite it's quite difficult, you know. Particularly

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Speaker 2: what we don't have, you know, in the theater, like

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Speaker 2: film and TV, is editing and a score and sound

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Speaker 2: and all these things that to really misguide people. We

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Speaker 2: have to do that live every night through through very

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Speaker 2: very tried and tested and refined old school theatrical tricks

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Speaker 2: and that could be misdirection, it can be times of

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Speaker 2: extended silence and tension. So it's a it's a real skill.

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Speaker 2: John Waters is exceptional that I've learned a lot with

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Speaker 2: working alongside him. It's the second time he's actually done

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Speaker 2: this show. He did it eighteen years ago and we

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Speaker 2: had one of the original performers and directors come out

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Speaker 2: to direct us from the UK, Anthony Eden. He performed

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Speaker 2: the show thirteen hundred times. So one of the few

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Speaker 2: times I looked at a director and when I'm getting

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Speaker 2: my lines wrong, I'm going, hey, watch that line again,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, It's like, oh great, the director

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Speaker 2: knows my job better than I do.

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Speaker 3: In this instance, what was more scary the woman in

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Speaker 3: black or Mark Holden as a clown?

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Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing will ever surpart Mark Colden as a clown.

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Speaker 2: He came back as Vladimir Putin the next week. The

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Speaker 2: sense of this forgot, but it was equally scary. If

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Speaker 2: you heard that was a real that was falled an

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Speaker 2: era of Australian television. I tell you we were right there.

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Speaker 2: Made a cold face.

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Speaker 3: If you heard de like balloons, Danny not really get

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Speaker 3: you a balloon Danny.

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Speaker 2: Done I'm having a visceral reaction as we speak.

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Speaker 3: It's triggered. You had to put up with my dancing

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Speaker 3: The year before that was a walk in the park.

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Speaker 2: Your dancing was nothing compared to Mark Holden's clowning. I

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Speaker 2: tell you, mate, well, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to seeing this. The Woman in Black is

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Speaker 3: happening now, get your tickets at ticket Master. Dan McPherson,

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Speaker 3: thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure team.