1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Territory, children and families are being warned after two incidents 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: of a vehicle approaching school students walking home and the 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: occupants three adult men, trying to entice them into a car. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the Department of 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Education and Training's Deputy Chief Executive of Schools, Paul Van Holstein. 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Paul. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Paul. Firstly, 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: can you tell me what happened in each of these incidents? 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Katie. So last week Thursday, after school, there 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: were two incidents where students were approached by people in 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: a gray or a silver car. Those young people realized 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: the situation and made their way home as quickly as 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: possible and reported that to the and reported that to 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: their parents, who then reported that situation to the police. 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: On Friday, through our government schools across the Darwin region, 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: we did send something out to all families because I 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: think this is a really important time that we again 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: have that conversation with our young people around how is 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: it we're making sure we're safe in our environment. We 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: talked about three hours and the information we sent home 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: the first are recognize make sure our young people can 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: recognize and be aware of the surroundings and trust their instincts. 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: Second hour as react if something feels wrong, take action 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: to ensure your safety, move away, quickly, run, find your 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: way to a trusted adult, and then the report informed 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: a trusted adult about any situations where you might feel unsafe. 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: So I think it's a really important message in conversation 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: for families to have with their young people, with their children, 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: because the safety of their young people is obviously. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: Paramount absolutely, and I mean a lot of us trust 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: that we're able to send our kids to school walking 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: or riding their bike, and then to think that somebody's 34 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: trying to entice them into a vehicle is pretty worrying. Indeed, now, 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: are you able to say which school these happened at 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: or what area. 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: It was in the Northern Suburbs cadem I'm not going 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: to identify the specific schools because I don't want to 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: risk identifying the young people that were involved in the situation. 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 2: And the other thing about the Northern Suburbs is it's 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: less than five minute drive between many about schools, So 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: at risks or a danger that some students were affected by, 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: I think we need to consider as a risk right 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 2: across the suburbs. 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: Yes, spot on. I mean, in terms of both of 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: these incidents, is the concern here that they are linked? 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, do we have much of an idea in 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: terms of the description of the vehicle involved. 49 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, We've made sure the police have that information so 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: they can look at whatever mechanisms and measures that they 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: can responding to the incident and ensuring safety moving forwards. 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: I think the opportunity now is for all of our 53 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: families to think about, you know, talk with their children 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: about how they get to school or what their safety 55 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: mechanisms are. As I said that record react to report 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: and also can things like you know, is there other 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: children on the same street where you can walk to 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: school together? Going together? Thinking about whether you know pick 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 2: up or drop off arrangements are in place in a 60 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: really safe way to protect our young people. 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Paul, We've also been contacted about another well additional incidents 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: in the northern suburbs involving a tan colored car. Are 63 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: you aware of any further incidents. 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: I haven't had that reported to me, Katie. I think 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: maybe offline it would be great if you could pass 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: that information onto the department. Yeah, make sure police have 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: been contacted and that we can understand what might be 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: the situation there. 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Now, I understand that you have obviously as you've touched on, 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: you've sent that letter home, you've already given some of 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: that advice. But what reassurance can you give two concerned 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: parents that are listening this morning, that are thinking, goodness, 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: may you know this is a worry and and you 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: know I need my kids to be able to get 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: to and from school independently without having to worry about 76 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: something like these. 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely and that independence. You know, we don't also don't 78 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: want to resort to a situation where we don't allow 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: our students, to young people to develop skills and independence 80 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: to move around our community. So we don't want to 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: be in a knee jerk space. I can absolutely assure 82 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: families that schools do talk with students around this, and 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: I know on Friday again, coming out of the incidents 84 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: on Thursday, schools had those conversations with students just to 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: be aware of their surroundings. If something doesn't feel right, 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, take action to ensure safety and report any 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: incidence that's wort to come up. So schools do talk 88 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: with and help young people understand their safety and mechanisms 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: they can take or things they can do to keep 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: themselves safe. We do our parents also consider it and 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: have that same conversation with children so that you can 92 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: have assurance in terms of how your young person gets 93 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: to them from school. 94 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, did schools then have a duty of 95 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: care when it comes to kids getting home safe? 96 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: So schools are traveling through you know, the school bus 97 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: service for instance, and that's something that we're keenly aware 98 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: of their duty of care. We can't extend the duty 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: of care to students as they travel through the community. 100 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: We do ask parents to consider how it is your 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: young person gets to and from school and ensure that 102 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: there's a good plan in place for the young person 103 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: to make their way safely to them from school. 104 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Now, just in terms of anybody listening this morning, any 105 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: parents listening this morning that are sort of seriously worried, 106 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, I know you've already spoken about that advice 107 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: for people, but you know, if they have got concerns, 108 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: if they've seen something, if you know, if there is 109 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: something that they feel the Education Department needs to know about, 110 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: what's the best way for them to raise that should 111 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: they get in contact with the school. 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's actually two things that we'd ask Katie. 113 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: So the first piece is if something's not right, we 114 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: actually need to actually those reports are made to the 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: police so the police have a full picture of any 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: concerns around safety for our young people in the community. 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: The second thing I would ask them to do is 118 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: to talk to their school leadership, so the principal and 119 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: the school so that you know, the school can be 120 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: aware of that and consider and whether additional information is 121 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: to go out to families or to consider actions the 122 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: school can take around those safety messages and safety aspects well. 123 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: Paul Van Holstein, Department of Education and Training's Deputy Chief 124 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: Executive of Schools, really appreciate your time this morning. Thank 125 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: you very much for joining us. 126 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: No worries, Katie, have a great day you too. 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: Thank you