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Speaker 1: Happy Monday everyone, you're listening to the pick Up with
Speaker 1: Brett Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 4: We're both very excited about today's show because we do
Speaker 4: have a superstar that we both low key can we
Speaker 4: say we're crushing or I don't know?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I notoriously if you've listened to the show.
Speaker 2: Enough, don't know. I don't know anyone.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on in the world. Once
Speaker 2: we had Beyonce coming in and you were like, who's that?
Speaker 2: Who's Yonce?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, maybe no. Honestly, I'm so bad with celebrities.
Speaker 1: I'm so bad with names. You'd never want me on
Speaker 1: your trivia team. But basically the way it works is
Speaker 1: like someone came in and was like, Hey, do you
Speaker 1: want to interview this stuff, and I almost jumped out
Speaker 1: of my skin for the person that we have on
Speaker 1: today's show.
Speaker 2: So Alex off the chair, Well he's twenty four. I
Speaker 2: centinly didn't do that. Alex Warren.
Speaker 1: He is an incredible musician. If you guys have not
Speaker 1: been following along with him, you absolutely will.
Speaker 2: Know his songs Ordinary.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll just play it for you so that Britt
Speaker 1: doesn't make everyone turn the radios off, but ordinary have
Speaker 1: a listened to this also his amazing song carry You Home.
Speaker 1: The reason why I came across him was because my daughter,
Speaker 1: Molly May, came home from school one day. She is five,
Speaker 1: mind you, and she said, Mummy, I heard the song
Speaker 1: that I want to play at my wedding today and
Speaker 1: it was carry You Home. He's just amazing, but truly,
Speaker 1: the thing about him, his story, how he became successful
Speaker 1: and going from what he experienced in his childhood and
Speaker 1: his early twenties to where he is now.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Guys, I love that you were like.
Speaker 4: The way that I stumbled across him was my five
Speaker 4: year old daughter. I stumbled across him from the three
Speaker 4: hundred million downloads he's had from his song, but he's
Speaker 4: brilliant and that is coming up, so you're going to
Speaker 4: want to stick around now.
Speaker 1: I am so excited to introduce you guys to the
Speaker 1: guests that we have on today's show. Alex Warren. He's
Speaker 1: one of the biggest singer songwriters at the moment that
Speaker 1: is absolutely blowing up across TikTok.
Speaker 2: But also he has ed Sharon.
Speaker 1: He's our number one most played song here at the
Speaker 1: station currently. You guys would know this song absolutely. It
Speaker 1: is ordinary, this song right here. He's also known for
Speaker 1: other incredible hits like Carry You Home. We has had
Speaker 1: over three hundred and forty five points ever million streams
Speaker 1: so far. But the thing that I am so excited
Speaker 1: to be able to talk to him today about and
Speaker 1: also to share with you guys is his incredible story
Speaker 1: of how Alex has come from being He was kicked
Speaker 1: out of home, he lost his dad when he was
Speaker 1: a teenager. His mum also passed away and he lived
Speaker 1: in a car and he has gone from being a
Speaker 1: homeless orphan to being one of the most incredible artists
Speaker 1: of our time.
Speaker 2: It's really cool too, and I love to see it.
Speaker 4: His now wife moved in with him when he was
Speaker 4: living in a car, and I think it's really cool.
Speaker 4: It's like you loved me when I had nothing idea
Speaker 4: and she's come along that whole journey with him to
Speaker 4: absolute superstar status.
Speaker 2: So I'm so excited to talk to him today. Alex,
Speaker 2: welcome to the pick up.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: We absolutely cannot wait for you to visit Australia in August.
Speaker 4: Everyone is looking forward to it. To the fact that
Speaker 4: I think you sold out in like two minutes. You
Speaker 4: need to start playing some bigger venues, let me tell
Speaker 4: you that much.
Speaker 2: But you've gone from living in.
Speaker 4: Your car to absolute superstar. How has that lived up
Speaker 4: to your expectations? Because you do hear a lot of
Speaker 4: people say like they finally make the top, or they
Speaker 4: reached what they thought was going to bring them happiness,
Speaker 4: and it hasn't fulfilled what they thought.
Speaker 2: What's been your experience, It's.
Speaker 3: Been really cool.
Speaker 5: Honestly, it's been absolutely a blessing and I think it's
Speaker 5: you know, I've been meeting a lot of cool people
Speaker 5: this last few weeks and I've had a lot inchby moments,
Speaker 5: So it's something where I've always dreamed of this, and
Speaker 5: it's everything I thought it would be, Alex.
Speaker 1: I've been following you on TikTok for quite a while,
Speaker 1: and like second to your incredible music, is also following
Speaker 1: along your beautiful relationship with your wife. Firstly, can you
Speaker 1: just say her full name for anyone who hasn't heard
Speaker 1: you say it before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my wife's still name is Cobra, Holy Bomak, Michlanio
Speaker 5: and Elko, Glani, Nznan and Hughes.
Speaker 1: It is the best name that has ever existed. That
Speaker 1: you've been together since you were eighteen year old high
Speaker 1: school sweethearts and now you're married. You wrote your incredible
Speaker 1: smash hit Ordinary about your wife and about the truly
Speaker 1: extraordinary relationship that you have. How has it changed as
Speaker 1: you've gone from living in a car to being ridiculously famous.
Speaker 1: How does your relationship change over those years.
Speaker 5: It's so funny. I don't think it's changed that much, honestly.
Speaker 5: You know, we just love to watch Great's Anatomy and
Speaker 5: hang out with our dogs at home, and it's just
Speaker 5: now we do it on the road. I think relationship wise,
Speaker 5: I'm always striving to be a better husband, try to
Speaker 5: take around more dates, and it's slowly becoming a thing
Speaker 5: where it's so difficult to find time, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: I try to mix it in. But other than that,
Speaker 5: it's been really cool. Honestly, she comes with me everywhere
Speaker 5: we go, so it's it's it's like we're traveling the.
Speaker 3: World to go. How did you feel?
Speaker 4: Because I did see that your wife didn't actually know
Speaker 4: the lyrics to the song.
Speaker 2: You wrote about her, what was sexy?
Speaker 4: Did she tell us what the actual lyric was and
Speaker 4: what she thought you were saying?
Speaker 3: All right, so she thought it was all my life.
Speaker 1: I'll do you like, I'll do it like, I'll get
Speaker 1: down and dirty.
Speaker 3: Right right, and it's all my life. How do you? So? Like,
Speaker 3: how do you?
Speaker 5: Because it goes into the next phrase, take my breath away,
Speaker 5: So it's supposed to be how do you take my
Speaker 5: breath away?
Speaker 3: It's like a sentence, but instead it's all my life.
Speaker 3: I'll do you as I'm.
Speaker 4: Like to be fair work because the first one is
Speaker 4: still a commitment, like you're still committing to long term sexy.
Speaker 2: Time, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Is the first one your mom has to listen to.
Speaker 1: Kova's Mom's got to hear those lyrics, And the second
Speaker 1: one sounds a bit more romance.
Speaker 3: Thankfully mine's dead so she doesn't have to listen.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Actually, do you know what? I do want to
Speaker 1: ask you about a lyric that you wrote. I might
Speaker 1: butcher it a little bit because I'm going from memory,
Speaker 1: but you wrote something in one of your songs about
Speaker 1: it being your mom's first time on earth as well,
Speaker 1: and I really resonated because I think sometimes as parents
Speaker 1: and as kids, we can hold so much resentment for
Speaker 1: our parents, and there was something incredibly beautiful in those lyrics.
Speaker 1: Why was that such an important thing to write for you?
Speaker 5: Well, I think growing up, I grew up in a
Speaker 5: broken home. My dad passed away and my mom ended
Speaker 5: up drinking herself to death. And I think with that,
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't I didn't have a mom, and
Speaker 5: I held so much on her. I kind of was like,
Speaker 5: you know, like, you're supposed to be my mom, supposed
Speaker 5: to my role model. Instead you're getting drunk and falling
Speaker 5: in a safe way.
Speaker 3: And that was something for.
Speaker 5: Me, whereas like Travis drunk, you do all these thanks
Speaker 5: and I always judged her for it. But now that
Speaker 5: I'm you know, twenty four, and I'm looking at having
Speaker 5: kids soon. It's something where I realized I'm so over
Speaker 5: in over my head and I have every resource possible,
Speaker 5: and I can't imagine losing my husband and having to
Speaker 5: raise four kids by myself. Yeah, and I can't imagine
Speaker 5: of stress she was under. And I think that's something
Speaker 5: really important and why I kind of wrote that song.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, as I'm an adult and I'm
Speaker 5: getting closer to that, I've realized that, you know, it
Speaker 5: was your first time on Earth two and I'm judging
Speaker 5: you for the decisions you made without being in your situation.
Speaker 1: Why was it so important to you to share those
Speaker 1: really personal moments in your songwriting and how has that
Speaker 1: helped you build your audience.
Speaker 3: So I've had a lot of healing.
Speaker 5: I still have moments where I break down crime like
Speaker 5: that's the thing, And a lot of people kind of
Speaker 5: asked me if it gets better, and it's a hard
Speaker 5: question to answer, but I think with everything that I've
Speaker 5: done and everything I've worked on and the songs that
Speaker 5: I write, it kind of gives me perspective.
Speaker 3: But also you can see the growth from the first
Speaker 3: song to where I am today. And it's cool hearing.
Speaker 5: People say that my songs have helped them, but I
Speaker 5: feel like they fail to see how the songs.
Speaker 3: Have helped me. And also this experience has helped me.
Speaker 5: And it's such a mind boggling thing to get behind
Speaker 5: that I started with this writing songs about my parents,
Speaker 5: and now I write love songs and whatnot. And it's
Speaker 5: cool that you know, there's people who love ordinary, there's
Speaker 5: people who love sav U a Seat, which is a
Speaker 5: song about my wedding, but it's the I wrote two
Speaker 5: songs for my wedding, a song that's a love song
Speaker 5: and a song that's mourning the loss of my parents,
Speaker 5: and so many people relate with both of them, and
Speaker 5: I think that's really powerful.
Speaker 4: I think that's why you have come up in such
Speaker 4: a unique new artist, because you have the most incredible voice.
Speaker 4: But it's just not that it's the way you relate
Speaker 4: to people as well. And I see so many people
Speaker 4: at your concerts with signs that are like hashtag dead
Speaker 4: Mum's Club, like dead Parents Club. There's so many people
Speaker 4: that are and it's crazy because it links back into
Speaker 4: your black humor. But I think that that's why so
Speaker 4: many people relate to you, because not only are they
Speaker 4: obsessed with your music, but they're obsessed with you and
Speaker 4: your story. Were you surprised with how many fans you
Speaker 4: had down here in Australia?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in mind bogged.
Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you if you saw we were trying
Speaker 5: to fill up a thousand cap rooms. Yeah, and now
Speaker 5: we've gone onto arenas and it's insane and it's also terrifying.
Speaker 1: Dude, let me tell you my I mean, you have
Speaker 1: no idea the range of your audience and your fan base,
Speaker 1: Like we've been in your orbit for a long time.
Speaker 2: But my five year old Marley.
Speaker 1: Is obsessed with you, like to a point where I
Speaker 1: was like, how did this?
Speaker 5: Even?
Speaker 1: So she came on one day from school and she
Speaker 1: was like, Mommy, I heard the song that I want
Speaker 1: to play at my wedding and it was carry You Home, and.
Speaker 2: We put it on in the car and she is
Speaker 2: five years old.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, well, there's probably some therapy we
Speaker 1: need to go through for that as well. But it's
Speaker 1: amazing and honestly, you guys sold out in thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: Definitely need some arenas next time, not pavilions.
Speaker 4: What I will say, Alex is I know people think
Speaker 4: that we work in radio and we get access to tickets.
Speaker 4: We were two people that missed out on the tickets.
Speaker 4: So if you know anyone that can slide us in
Speaker 4: a ticket, we'd love to come and see you while
Speaker 4: you're here.
Speaker 2: I'll make it before we let you go. Who's your
Speaker 2: dream collab? You get to perform with anyone? Who is it?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: Miley Cyrus on the girlfront and on the Guy Friend's
Speaker 5: got to be.
Speaker 3: At I love it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, two very tall ginger men together. It's what
Speaker 1: we want to see in the world. There we go, Alex,
Speaker 1: It's an absolute dream. Good luck with the tour. We're
Speaker 1: so stoked to have you on show. Ordinary is such
Speaker 1: an incredible song. We can't wait to see you and
Speaker 1: to hear from you again.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, guys letter Alie Alex.
Speaker 2: So British pop sensation Ollie Murs.
Speaker 4: We all know him. He goes viral many many times
Speaker 4: for his songs, but he's gone viral for the wrong thing.
Speaker 2: What are you about to say?
Speaker 1: Okay, because we were just talking about it with Alice Warren,
Speaker 1: who was on and how I don't know anyone and
Speaker 1: I can handle my heart say I've never heard of
Speaker 1: this guy hell sing a song.
Speaker 2: I'll know his song. I don't sing anything, all right.
Speaker 2: Well that's here's one.
Speaker 1: You know that Like, Yeah, couldn't spot him there in
Speaker 1: a crowd, wouldn't have been able to pin him down.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's hope he's not listening to this, Laura. Wow,
Speaker 2: we're trying to get superstars.
Speaker 4: On the show when you're just cutting them off before
Speaker 4: they even get hit. Okay, Well, here's something that is
Speaker 4: not relatable. He's gone viral at the moment for posting
Speaker 4: a body transformation. So over a twelve week period, he
Speaker 4: did like a before and after just for himself, Like
Speaker 4: he's gone on his own health kick to become healthy inside,
Speaker 4: to feel better for whatever, like a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: personal reasons.
Speaker 1: I do like that you say this, he's just done
Speaker 1: it for himself to post on social media for really
Speaker 1: his followers.
Speaker 4: Well, no, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's motivating,
Speaker 4: it's for him whatever. He the first photo because there's
Speaker 4: two photos side beside the first photo.
Speaker 2: When people are saying, and I don't really like this term, but.
Speaker 4: They've said dad bod right, that is just because he's
Speaker 4: not shredded. He looks like a very normal man. He
Speaker 4: looks great, but in the photo after it is giving
Speaker 4: two percent body fat.
Speaker 2: There is a twelve pack like the guy is absolutely shredded.
Speaker 1: It's giving you know when you see people go and
Speaker 1: do like those bodybuilder poses on stage in their bikinis.
Speaker 1: He's given that vibes in the second shot, but he
Speaker 1: still looks very good in the first one.
Speaker 4: He looks great in both. So somebody has gone and
Speaker 4: put a pole up. They've taken his photos and they've
Speaker 4: put up Do you think Ollie looks better before or after?
Speaker 4: They put both photos up and you can choose male
Speaker 4: before male after, female before female after. Now this has
Speaker 4: been seen like eighty six million times. It's caused a
Speaker 4: bit of a stir on a should we be commenting
Speaker 4: on people's bodies online? We already know the answer, right,
Speaker 4: but b there's become a bit of an argument off
Speaker 4: the back of it between men and women.
Speaker 2: And it's a male that has.
Speaker 4: Started the pole because more men are saying he looks
Speaker 4: better after like wear he shredded and fit, and more
Speaker 4: women are saying they thought he looked better before. With
Speaker 4: the quote unquote dad bod like before he could grate
Speaker 4: a carrot on his abs.
Speaker 1: I am not surprised by this because I think that
Speaker 1: we have very different perceptions around what it is that
Speaker 1: as women we find desirable in other women's bodies and
Speaker 1: what it is that men find desirable and vice versa.
Speaker 1: I think that we find specific things desirable, and I'm
Speaker 1: talking stereotypes, like I'm.
Speaker 2: Talking broad spectrum here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are things that we as women find
Speaker 1: hot in a man. And it's not always you're like
Speaker 1: chiseled abs and you're like oily body and everything else.
Speaker 2: I think body true.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about men on the beach with
Speaker 1: chiseled abs and covered in baby oil. Don't that seat
Speaker 1: Not one person was aroused because there was a single one.
Speaker 1: No one does that, but they would be They would fortunate,
Speaker 1: totally okay.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is, I'm very fortunate.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say anything negative about abs
Speaker 1: because my husband, Maddy Jay, he does have a good
Speaker 1: set of them and.
Speaker 2: He's very into his fitness.
Speaker 1: But I have in the past been equally as attracted
Speaker 1: to people who would you'd say, had dad bods, because
Speaker 1: I kind of up until meeting my husband, I would
Speaker 1: have attributed someone who'd spent that much time on their
Speaker 1: body and looking a certain way as potentially being arrogant,
Speaker 1: or I would have made assumptions about their personality because
Speaker 1: of the way that they looked, which I'm not saying
Speaker 1: is fair. But I think, you know, even with women
Speaker 1: like we, a lot of I'm sure so many of
Speaker 1: us have been through the want to be thinner or
Speaker 1: fit into a certain size, and often we're doing that
Speaker 1: for ourselves or we're doing that to appease other women.
Speaker 1: But you know, the men that we might be dating
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want stick skinny little girls, you know, like
Speaker 1: they want girls that have curves. I think the perception
Speaker 1: around it is quite different to what we believe, is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: All right, back to Ollie.
Speaker 4: The common misconception is that he's ten times healthier in
Speaker 4: the second photo where he's ripped, But it's actually quite
Speaker 4: known that like one hund two percent of men in
Speaker 4: the world can look like this. To look like you
Speaker 4: have abs and muscles and nobody fat to this level means.
Speaker 2: You are really really strict on your calorie deficit.
Speaker 4: You're probably not sleeping well like this takes a lot
Speaker 4: of hard work, and it doesn't always necessarily correlate to
Speaker 4: being healthier. That is one thing like that is one
Speaker 4: thing I absolutely want to say. But it's interesting because
Speaker 4: even after the poll happened, the guy that started the poll,
Speaker 4: he said, why are women lying about this?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What is your actual cause?
Speaker 4: And it blows my mind because I had this conversation
Speaker 4: with someone the other day literally this. I said, you'd
Speaker 4: be shocked if you actually knew what women like like.
Speaker 4: What men think women like isn't what women like, and
Speaker 4: I think that's vice versa. But Ollie came out he said,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't normally comment on stuff like this, but from
Speaker 4: what I've seen, I just want to say that the
Speaker 4: journey at the start of this year was for many
Speaker 4: personal reasons, and not one of them was to spark
Speaker 4: a debate and divide opinions. So it's very disappointing to
Speaker 4: see this kind of reporting.
Speaker 1: I think that the big take home from this is
Speaker 1: that what most people look for in a partner is
Speaker 1: someone who's not so personally self obsessed that their looks
Speaker 1: is the most important thing to them. And so like,
Speaker 1: maybe you are that two percent of people that's really
Speaker 1: lucky that you don't have to put a lot of
Speaker 1: energy into working out to have an incredibly fit body
Speaker 1: good for you. That's not really the case for the
Speaker 1: rest of the population. And I genuinely think like the
Speaker 1: things that a lot of men or good guys find
Speaker 1: attractive in women is not how skinny you can be
Speaker 1: or how big your boobs are, and vice versa. The
Speaker 1: things that women like in men for heterosexual relationships as
Speaker 1: not how big your apps are.
Speaker 4: Totally, and if there's a takeaway message from today, any
Speaker 4: of the men in the car, they'll listen right now,
Speaker 4: embrace the dad pod, just relax, just just chill out,
Speaker 4: because we genuinely don't.
Speaker 2: Care that much. Yeah, i'd agree. Well, guys, that's it
Speaker 2: from us today,