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<v Speaker 2>Are good Pickup with Britt Hockley.

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<v Speaker 1>And Laura Burn Brady or what our windows?

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<v Speaker 2>all around. I've don't much, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know our big get and what our want.

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<v Speaker 3>It don't matter where.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the pickup.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Monday everyone, you're listening to the pick Up with

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Hockley and Laura Burn.

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<v Speaker 4>We're both very excited about today's show because we do

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<v Speaker 4>have a superstar that we both low key can we

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<v Speaker 4>say we're crushing or I don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I notoriously if you've listened to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough, don't know. I don't know anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on in the world. Once

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<v Speaker 2>we had Beyonce coming in and you were like, who's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's Yonce?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, maybe no. Honestly, I'm so bad with celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so bad with names. You'd never want me on

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<v Speaker 1>your trivia team. But basically the way it works is

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<v Speaker 1>like someone came in and was like, Hey, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to interview this stuff, and I almost jumped out

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<v Speaker 1>of my skin for the person that we have on

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<v Speaker 1>today's show.

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<v Speaker 2>So Alex off the chair, Well he's twenty four. I

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<v Speaker 2>centinly didn't do that. Alex Warren.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an incredible musician. If you guys have not

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<v Speaker 1>been following along with him, you absolutely will.

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<v Speaker 2>Know his songs Ordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll just play it for you so that Britt

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make everyone turn the radios off, but ordinary have

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<v Speaker 1>a listened to this also his amazing song carry You Home.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why I came across him was because my daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>Molly May, came home from school one day. She is five,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you, and she said, Mummy, I heard the song

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to play at my wedding today and

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<v Speaker 1>it was carry You Home. He's just amazing, but truly,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about him, his story, how he became successful

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<v Speaker 1>and going from what he experienced in his childhood and

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<v Speaker 1>his early twenties to where he is now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable. Guys, I love that you were like.

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<v Speaker 4>The way that I stumbled across him was my five

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<v Speaker 4>year old daughter. I stumbled across him from the three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred million downloads he's had from his song, but he's

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<v Speaker 4>brilliant and that is coming up, so you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>want to stick around now.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited to introduce you guys to the

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<v Speaker 1>guests that we have on today's show. Alex Warren. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest singer songwriters at the moment that

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely blowing up across TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>But also he has ed Sharon.

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<v Speaker 1>He's our number one most played song here at the

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<v Speaker 1>station currently. You guys would know this song absolutely. It

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<v Speaker 1>is ordinary, this song right here. He's also known for

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<v Speaker 1>other incredible hits like Carry You Home. We has had

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<v Speaker 1>over three hundred and forty five points ever million streams

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<v Speaker 1>so far. But the thing that I am so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to talk to him today about and

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<v Speaker 1>also to share with you guys is his incredible story

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<v Speaker 1>of how Alex has come from being He was kicked

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<v Speaker 1>out of home, he lost his dad when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager. His mum also passed away and he lived

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<v Speaker 1>in a car and he has gone from being a

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<v Speaker 1>homeless orphan to being one of the most incredible artists

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<v Speaker 1>of our time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cool too, and I love to see it.

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<v Speaker 4>His now wife moved in with him when he was

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<v Speaker 4>living in a car, and I think it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you loved me when I had nothing idea

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<v Speaker 4>and she's come along that whole journey with him to

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<v Speaker 4>absolute superstar status.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm so excited to talk to him today. Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the pick up.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>We absolutely cannot wait for you to visit Australia in August.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone is looking forward to it. To the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>I think you sold out in like two minutes. You

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<v Speaker 4>need to start playing some bigger venues, let me tell

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<v Speaker 4>you that much.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've gone from living in.

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<v Speaker 4>Your car to absolute superstar. How has that lived up

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<v Speaker 4>to your expectations? Because you do hear a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people say like they finally make the top, or they

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<v Speaker 4>reached what they thought was going to bring them happiness,

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<v Speaker 4>and it hasn't fulfilled what they thought.

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<v Speaker 2>What's been your experience, It's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been really cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, it's been absolutely a blessing and I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I've been meeting a lot of cool people

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<v Speaker 5>this last few weeks and I've had a lot inchby moments,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's something where I've always dreamed of this, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's everything I thought it would be, Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been following you on TikTok for quite a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and like second to your incredible music, is also following

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<v Speaker 1>along your beautiful relationship with your wife. Firstly, can you

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<v Speaker 1>just say her full name for anyone who hasn't heard

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<v Speaker 1>you say it before.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my wife's still name is Cobra, Holy Bomak, Michlanio

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<v Speaker 5>and Elko, Glani, Nznan and Hughes.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the best name that has ever existed. That

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<v Speaker 1>you've been together since you were eighteen year old high

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<v Speaker 1>school sweethearts and now you're married. You wrote your incredible

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<v Speaker 1>smash hit Ordinary about your wife and about the truly

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary relationship that you have. How has it changed as

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<v Speaker 1>you've gone from living in a car to being ridiculously famous.

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<v Speaker 1>How does your relationship change over those years.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so funny. I don't think it's changed that much, honestly.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we just love to watch Great's Anatomy and

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<v Speaker 5>hang out with our dogs at home, and it's just

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<v Speaker 5>now we do it on the road. I think relationship wise,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm always striving to be a better husband, try to

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<v Speaker 5>take around more dates, and it's slowly becoming a thing

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<v Speaker 5>where it's so difficult to find time, but yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I try to mix it in. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 5>it's been really cool. Honestly, she comes with me everywhere

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<v Speaker 5>we go, so it's it's it's like we're traveling the.

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<v Speaker 3>World to go. How did you feel?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I did see that your wife didn't actually know

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<v Speaker 4>the lyrics to the song.

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<v Speaker 2>You wrote about her, what was sexy?

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<v Speaker 4>Did she tell us what the actual lyric was and

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<v Speaker 4>what she thought you were saying?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so she thought it was all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do you like, I'll do it like, I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>down and dirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, and it's all my life. How do you? So? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you?

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<v Speaker 5>Because it goes into the next phrase, take my breath away,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's supposed to be how do you take my

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<v Speaker 5>breath away?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a sentence, but instead it's all my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do you as I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like to be fair work because the first one is

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<v Speaker 4>still a commitment, like you're still committing to long term sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the first one your mom has to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>Kova's Mom's got to hear those lyrics, And the second

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<v Speaker 1>one sounds a bit more romance.

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<v Speaker 3>Thankfully mine's dead so she doesn't have to listen.

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<v Speaker 2>To Yeah, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Actually, do you know what? I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about a lyric that you wrote. I might

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<v Speaker 1>butcher it a little bit because I'm going from memory,

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<v Speaker 1>but you wrote something in one of your songs about

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<v Speaker 1>it being your mom's first time on earth as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really resonated because I think sometimes as parents

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<v Speaker 1>and as kids, we can hold so much resentment for

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<v Speaker 1>our parents, and there was something incredibly beautiful in those lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was that such an important thing to write for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think growing up, I grew up in a

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<v Speaker 5>broken home. My dad passed away and my mom ended

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<v Speaker 5>up drinking herself to death. And I think with that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I didn't I didn't have a mom, and

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<v Speaker 5>I held so much on her. I kind of was like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like, you're supposed to be my mom, supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to my role model. Instead you're getting drunk and falling

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<v Speaker 5>in a safe way.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was something for.

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<v Speaker 5>Me, whereas like Travis drunk, you do all these thanks

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<v Speaker 5>and I always judged her for it. But now that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm you know, twenty four, and I'm looking at having

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<v Speaker 5>kids soon. It's something where I realized I'm so over

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<v Speaker 5>in over my head and I have every resource possible,

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<v Speaker 5>and I can't imagine losing my husband and having to

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<v Speaker 5>raise four kids by myself. Yeah, and I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 5>of stress she was under. And I think that's something

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<v Speaker 5>really important and why I kind of wrote that song.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, you know, as I'm an adult and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>getting closer to that, I've realized that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 5>was your first time on Earth two and I'm judging

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<v Speaker 5>you for the decisions you made without being in your situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was it so important to you to share those

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<v Speaker 1>really personal moments in your songwriting and how has that

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<v Speaker 1>helped you build your audience.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've had a lot of healing.

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<v Speaker 5>I still have moments where I break down crime like

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<v Speaker 5>that's the thing, And a lot of people kind of

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<v Speaker 5>asked me if it gets better, and it's a hard

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<v Speaker 5>question to answer, but I think with everything that I've

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<v Speaker 5>done and everything I've worked on and the songs that

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<v Speaker 5>I write, it kind of gives me perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>But also you can see the growth from the first

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<v Speaker 3>song to where I am today. And it's cool hearing.

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<v Speaker 5>People say that my songs have helped them, but I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like they fail to see how the songs.

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<v Speaker 3>Have helped me. And also this experience has helped me.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's such a mind boggling thing to get behind

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<v Speaker 5>that I started with this writing songs about my parents,

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<v Speaker 5>and now I write love songs and whatnot. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>cool that you know, there's people who love ordinary, there's

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<v Speaker 5>people who love sav U a Seat, which is a

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<v Speaker 5>song about my wedding, but it's the I wrote two

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<v Speaker 5>songs for my wedding, a song that's a love song

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<v Speaker 5>and a song that's mourning the loss of my parents,

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<v Speaker 5>and so many people relate with both of them, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's really powerful.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's why you have come up in such

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<v Speaker 4>a unique new artist, because you have the most incredible voice.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's just not that it's the way you relate

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<v Speaker 4>to people as well. And I see so many people

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<v Speaker 4>at your concerts with signs that are like hashtag dead

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<v Speaker 4>Mum's Club, like dead Parents Club. There's so many people

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<v Speaker 4>that are and it's crazy because it links back into

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<v Speaker 4>your black humor. But I think that that's why so

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<v Speaker 4>many people relate to you, because not only are they

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<v Speaker 4>obsessed with your music, but they're obsessed with you and

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<v Speaker 4>your story. Were you surprised with how many fans you

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<v Speaker 4>had down here in Australia?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was in mind bogged.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't tell you if you saw we were trying

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<v Speaker 5>to fill up a thousand cap rooms. Yeah, and now

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<v Speaker 5>we've gone onto arenas and it's insane and it's also terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, let me tell you my I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea the range of your audience and your fan base,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've been in your orbit for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>But my five year old Marley.

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<v Speaker 1>Is obsessed with you, like to a point where I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, how did this?

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<v Speaker 5>Even?

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<v Speaker 1>So she came on one day from school and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Mommy, I heard the song that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to play at my wedding and it was carry You Home, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We put it on in the car and she is

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<v Speaker 2>five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, well, there's probably some therapy we

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<v Speaker 1>need to go through for that as well. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing and honestly, you guys sold out in thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely need some arenas next time, not pavilions.

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<v Speaker 4>What I will say, Alex is I know people think

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<v Speaker 4>that we work in radio and we get access to tickets.

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<v Speaker 4>We were two people that missed out on the tickets.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you know anyone that can slide us in

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<v Speaker 4>a ticket, we'd love to come and see you while

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<v Speaker 4>you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make it before we let you go. Who's your

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<v Speaker 2>dream collab? You get to perform with anyone? Who is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Miley Cyrus on the girlfront and on the Guy Friend's

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<v Speaker 5>got to be.

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<v Speaker 3>At I love it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing, two very tall ginger men together. It's what

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<v Speaker 1>we want to see in the world. There we go, Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>It's an absolute dream. Good luck with the tour. We're

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<v Speaker 1>so stoked to have you on show. Ordinary is such

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible song. We can't wait to see you and

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me, guys letter Alie Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>So British pop sensation Ollie Murs.

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<v Speaker 4>We all know him. He goes viral many many times

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<v Speaker 4>for his songs, but he's gone viral for the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you about to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because we were just talking about it with Alice Warren,

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<v Speaker 1>who was on and how I don't know anyone and

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<v Speaker 1>I can handle my heart say I've never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>this guy hell sing a song.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll know his song. I don't sing anything, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's here's one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that Like, Yeah, couldn't spot him there in

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<v Speaker 1>a crowd, wouldn't have been able to pin him down.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, let's hope he's not listening to this, Laura. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to get superstars.

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<v Speaker 4>On the show when you're just cutting them off before

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<v Speaker 4>they even get hit. Okay, Well, here's something that is

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<v Speaker 4>not relatable. He's gone viral at the moment for posting

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<v Speaker 4>a body transformation. So over a twelve week period, he

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<v Speaker 4>did like a before and after just for himself, Like

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<v Speaker 4>he's gone on his own health kick to become healthy inside,

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<v Speaker 4>to feel better for whatever, like a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>personal reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like that you say this, he's just done

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<v Speaker 1>it for himself to post on social media for really

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<v Speaker 1>his followers.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's motivating,

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<v Speaker 4>it's for him whatever. He the first photo because there's

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<v Speaker 4>two photos side beside the first photo.

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<v Speaker 2>When people are saying, and I don't really like this term, but.

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<v Speaker 4>They've said dad bod right, that is just because he's

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<v Speaker 4>not shredded. He looks like a very normal man. He

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<v Speaker 4>looks great, but in the photo after it is giving

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<v Speaker 4>two percent body fat.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a twelve pack like the guy is absolutely shredded.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving you know when you see people go and

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<v Speaker 1>do like those bodybuilder poses on stage in their bikinis.

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<v Speaker 1>He's given that vibes in the second shot, but he

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<v Speaker 1>still looks very good in the first one.

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<v Speaker 4>He looks great in both. So somebody has gone and

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<v Speaker 4>put a pole up. They've taken his photos and they've

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<v Speaker 4>put up Do you think Ollie looks better before or after?

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<v Speaker 4>They put both photos up and you can choose male

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<v Speaker 4>before male after, female before female after. Now this has

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<v Speaker 4>been seen like eighty six million times. It's caused a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a stir on a should we be commenting

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<v Speaker 4>on people's bodies online? We already know the answer, right,

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<v Speaker 4>but b there's become a bit of an argument off

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<v Speaker 4>the back of it between men and women.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a male that has.

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<v Speaker 4>Started the pole because more men are saying he looks

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<v Speaker 4>better after like wear he shredded and fit, and more

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<v Speaker 4>women are saying they thought he looked better before. With

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<v Speaker 4>the quote unquote dad bod like before he could grate

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<v Speaker 4>a carrot on his abs.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not surprised by this because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we have very different perceptions around what it is that

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<v Speaker 1>as women we find desirable in other women's bodies and

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<v Speaker 1>what it is that men find desirable and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we find specific things desirable, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking stereotypes, like I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking broad spectrum here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there are things that we as women find

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<v Speaker 1>hot in a man. And it's not always you're like

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<v Speaker 1>chiseled abs and you're like oily body and everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>I think body true.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking about men on the beach with

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<v Speaker 1>chiseled abs and covered in baby oil. Don't that seat

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<v Speaker 1>Not one person was aroused because there was a single one.

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<v Speaker 1>No one does that, but they would be They would fortunate,

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<v Speaker 1>totally okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is is, I'm very fortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to say anything negative about abs

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<v Speaker 1>because my husband, Maddy Jay, he does have a good

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<v Speaker 1>set of them and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very into his fitness.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have in the past been equally as attracted

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<v Speaker 1>to people who would you'd say, had dad bods, because

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of up until meeting my husband, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have attributed someone who'd spent that much time on their

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<v Speaker 1>body and looking a certain way as potentially being arrogant,

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<v Speaker 1>or I would have made assumptions about their personality because

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<v Speaker 1>of the way that they looked, which I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>is fair. But I think, you know, even with women

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<v Speaker 1>like we, a lot of I'm sure so many of

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<v Speaker 1>us have been through the want to be thinner or

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<v Speaker 1>fit into a certain size, and often we're doing that

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<v Speaker 1>for ourselves or we're doing that to appease other women.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the men that we might be dating

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily want stick skinny little girls, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>they want girls that have curves. I think the perception

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<v Speaker 1>around it is quite different to what we believe, is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, back to Ollie.

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<v Speaker 4>The common misconception is that he's ten times healthier in

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<v Speaker 4>the second photo where he's ripped, But it's actually quite

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<v Speaker 4>known that like one hund two percent of men in

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<v Speaker 4>the world can look like this. To look like you

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<v Speaker 4>have abs and muscles and nobody fat to this level means.

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<v Speaker 2>You are really really strict on your calorie deficit.

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<v Speaker 4>You're probably not sleeping well like this takes a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of hard work, and it doesn't always necessarily correlate to

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<v Speaker 4>being healthier. That is one thing like that is one

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<v Speaker 4>thing I absolutely want to say. But it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 4>even after the poll happened, the guy that started the poll,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, why are women lying about this?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is your actual cause?

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<v Speaker 4>And it blows my mind because I had this conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with someone the other day literally this. I said, you'd

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<v Speaker 4>be shocked if you actually knew what women like like.

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<v Speaker 4>What men think women like isn't what women like, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's vice versa. But Ollie came out he said,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't normally comment on stuff like this, but from

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<v Speaker 4>what I've seen, I just want to say that the

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<v Speaker 4>journey at the start of this year was for many

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<v Speaker 4>personal reasons, and not one of them was to spark

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<v Speaker 4>a debate and divide opinions. So it's very disappointing to

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<v Speaker 4>see this kind of reporting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the big take home from this is

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<v Speaker 1>that what most people look for in a partner is

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's not so personally self obsessed that their looks

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<v Speaker 1>is the most important thing to them. And so like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you are that two percent of people that's really

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<v Speaker 1>lucky that you don't have to put a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>energy into working out to have an incredibly fit body

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<v Speaker 1>good for you. That's not really the case for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the population. And I genuinely think like the

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<v Speaker 1>things that a lot of men or good guys find

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<v Speaker 1>attractive in women is not how skinny you can be

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<v Speaker 1>or how big your boobs are, and vice versa. The

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<v Speaker 1>things that women like in men for heterosexual relationships as

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<v Speaker 1>not how big your apps are.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally, and if there's a takeaway message from today, any

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<v Speaker 4>of the men in the car, they'll listen right now,

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<v Speaker 4>embrace the dad pod, just relax, just just chill out,

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<v Speaker 4>because we genuinely don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Care that much. Yeah, i'd agree. Well, guys, that's it

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<v Speaker 2>from us today,