1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: We know the Northern territories long standing local medical program 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: through Flinders University has welcomed its largest intake of medical students, 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: with thirty eight resident students and its first international cohort 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: undertaking the program. We know that there is a significant 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: need in the Northern Territory for a larger healthcare workforce 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: and by training them here, they're hopefully more likely to stay. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the Flinders University 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Dean of Rural and Remote Health, Professor Robin Aitken. Good 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: morning to you. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: Robin, Good morning Katie, and good morning to your audience. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Lovely to have you on the show. Now, Professor, take 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: me through the numbers. How many have recently commenced the 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: medical program in the Northern Territory. 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: So, Katie, we have got those thirty eight that you said, 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: plus international students. So we've got a cohort of forty 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: two students who's rather in their very first year. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: That's great. I mean, it seems like does it are 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: they like? I mean, is that as many as you 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: were expecting? Is it more than you're expecting? 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: So this year we were expecting with many. We've been 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: increasing over the years and I think the last time 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: I spoke to you was before Christmas at our graduate 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: before our graduation, and we only graduated twenty four, which 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: has been the number that we've had for probably about 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: thirteen years. But we have had more funding from both 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory Government and the Commonwealth government to have 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: more students. 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Now, what are you thinks driving that interest in studying medicine? 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: Oh, listen, I think that medicine as a career is 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: something that is always attractive to people. But locally, as 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: we're hearing in the press every day, there is such 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: a need on the ground. Our programs are graduate program 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: so it's people who've already got careers who have been 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: thinking about, you know, what's my next step or what 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: is it that I'd really like to contribute to my community, 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: and medicine is a really good way of doing that. 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: Robin, can you tell us a bit about the cohort? 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: How many of them are local? I understand that there's 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: some international. What countries are they from? 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: So, as you said before, there's thirty eight local and 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: their Northern Territory residents. They do come from all over 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: the territory, not just Darlins. And then our international students 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: we have from Canada and one student from Cambodia. 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Good stuff. And I mean, do you think that the 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Northern Territory for the students is a more attractive place 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: to study medicine when you look at you know, all 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: the different types of people that we've got living here, 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: all the different types of tropical diseases and different things 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: that we have got in the NT. 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: There is no doubt that to study medicine in the 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: Northern Territory you have experienced is for learning that you 52 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: get nowhere else in Australia. The complexity of health issues, 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: but also the amazing clinicians that they're learning from. We 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: have some of the best clinicians in the world working 55 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory in. 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: Terms of the different kinds of placements that they will do, 57 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: what kind of things are they going to get up to. 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: So accidents spent some time in Roaldoen Hospital and Palmerston, 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: they spend some time in our Springs Hospital, in Katherine 60 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: Hospital in go Of Hospital, and time at the GP 61 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: super Clinic out at Palmerston, and time in Congress in 62 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Central Australia and then in many of the small communities 63 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 2: in East Dhna in Central Australia, and even when we've 64 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: got enough people to supervise over on the teaways. 65 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: And Professor I guess we always so when we have 66 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: home grown doctors. But even with the international students studying 67 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory, we always hope that then 68 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: they'll want to stay and continue working in the Northern Territory. 69 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Do we get a big percentage remaining here? 70 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 2: We do, indeed, so we get fifty four percent of 71 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: the students who've been sent their entire program here in 72 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: the territory stay after their two years, so they do 73 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: return service to the Northern Territory help when they finish. 74 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: So there's two years of a guaranteed job for them 75 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 2: and two years that they're guaranteed to stay, but fifty 76 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: over fifty percent stay after that where they end up. 77 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: So if a student spends time in Alice Springs, eighty 78 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: percent of those students are likely to end up back 79 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs. If they go to Catherine, ninety two 80 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: percent in the territory still, so those regional experiences are 81 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: not only exciting and interesting, they draw them back as 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: graduates and as doctors in those regions. 83 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: That's really good to hear, and I think it's sort 84 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: of it. You know, it really exemplifies why, you know, 85 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: why we want them studying here in the Northern territory. 86 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: If then it means the majority either come back or 87 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: remain here. 88 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we know from research around Australia that people 89 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: are much more likely to stay in their local community 90 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: if they get to study the entire time and not 91 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 2: have to go away to another capital city to do 92 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: a course. 93 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: Just finally, I know obviously Labored announced earlier in the 94 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: week eight point five billion dollars an investment into Medicare. 95 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: It is promising to deliver more doctors by funding the 96 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: training of two thousand new GP trainees a year by 97 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. What does that mean for Flinders UNI? 98 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: So for Flinda's UNI, that means that we have already 99 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: received some additional places in rural South Australia. We've got 100 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: a program that we are really well permissioned to apply 101 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: for more places because we can demonstrate that they actually 102 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 2: deliver those outcomes that those initiatives there ain't at, which 103 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: is more GPS, more people in regional Australia. 104 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: Well, Flinder's University's Dean of Rural and remote health Professor 105 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Robin Aiken. It's always lovely to catch up with you. 106 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time this morning. 107 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: It is Katie, Thank you so much. 108 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: Thank you