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Speaker 1: Today. Welcome to the Happy Families Podcast. As we inch

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Speaker 1: closer to Christmas, Friday, the twelfth of December. A lot

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Speaker 1: celebrating my fiftieth birthday, and there is some stuff to

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Speaker 1: But as we always do on a Friday, there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of this week in parenting. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: has Australia gone bonkers? Global attention is on this country

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Speaker 1: as a result of the minimum age legislation for social

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Speaker 1: media with age limits. If you're under sixteen, you can

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Speaker 1: no longer be on social media. I got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a special invite to a fancy shindig. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about that and a whole lot more

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Speaker 1: in today's episode of the podcast. Stay with us until

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Speaker 1: coming up next. Hello. Welcome to the Happy Families podcast,

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Speaker 1: where you get real parenting solutions every single day. This

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Speaker 1: is Australia's most downloaded parenting podcast. My name's stocks Justin Calson.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with this is Happy Families. My wife and

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Speaker 1: mum to our six children, Kylie and Kylie, let's just

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Speaker 1: crack on straight away, because there's so much to talk

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Speaker 1: about and people are busy. This week in parenting, Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Was a pretty big day across the country, around the world. Hello.

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Speaker 3: We start in Australia because in a few hours time,

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Speaker 3: the Social Media Band for children under the age of

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Speaker 1: The eyes of the world were upon Australia. Social media

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Speaker 1: legislation finally implemented, and.

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Speaker 2: You've got an unexpected special invite. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did a little bit of a flex here. I

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Speaker 1: got an email from the Communications Minister her office, Minister Wells,

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Speaker 1: and went to Kiribilly House on Wednesday, the residents of

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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister, with maybe forty or fifty other people

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Speaker 2: And here we were thinking all of your travel had finished.

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, last trip of the year, last trip

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Speaker 2: You were you said, there's about forty people there. Who

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Speaker 1: So Julian mcgrant, the Safety Commission, who's obviously running the

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Speaker 1: who have experienced the devastating impact of where social media

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Speaker 1: Whipper was the MC for the day. He has been

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Speaker 1: involved in a not for profit that's been really pushing

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Speaker 1: It was a really really select and really I think important,

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Speaker 2: What was the general vibe as you were there with

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Speaker 1: People like Dannie A. Larchi from the Heads Up Alliance,

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Speaker 2: You actually haven't shared a lot about the day with me.

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Speaker 2: So that was just a nation coming together in unity.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that was a true highlight. I'm going

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Speaker 2: It feels a little bit jarring to kind of move

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Speaker 1: Totally, this is a long game. This is not a

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Speaker 1: So that's that's what we're doing. Anyway. That was my

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Speaker 1: getaway to Queenstown where we ask our children to get

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Speaker 1: reparenting solutions every single day. Okay, Kylie, I've been looking

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Speaker 1: newsday and we would have spent a lot more time

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Speaker 1: the social media stuff. For my fiftieth we booked a

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Speaker 2: He gonna ask me what might take on?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, of course. I'm so sorry. We're out of

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Speaker 1: let's just wrap it up with your take home message.

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Speaker 2: So as we did debrief with the kids on our

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Speaker 2: last night around the fire, I asked them.

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Speaker 1: So funny, here we are sitting in the middle of

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Speaker 2: We had friends do this trip and that's why we

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They described it as idyllic. You know, the weather was perfect.

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Speaker 2: We literally rode through rain and you know, eight degrees

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Speaker 2: learning was, one of the kids just said, I'm so

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Speaker 2: grateful that you taught us from such a young age

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Speaker 2: that we can do hard things. She said, because this

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Speaker 2: she said, but I did something really hard and it

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Speaker 2: feels good.

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Speaker 1: And this is resilience building right and.

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Speaker 2: For me, outside of putting them into an uncomfortable setting

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Speaker 2: and asking them to do something hard, what I loved

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Speaker 2: the most and my take home is that when we're

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Speaker 2: willing to show up, we get to have experiences that

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Speaker 2: edify and build relationships. And coming from backgrounds and families

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Speaker 2: where often there are individuals who choose not to show up,

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Speaker 2: that is the greatest blessing in my life in yours,

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Speaker 2: I love that our kids choose to come on.

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