Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this
Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay
Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend
Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the
Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which
Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix
Speaker 1: soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes
Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think
Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your
Speaker 1: besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are
Speaker 1: in your journey, We're here to help you be curious,
Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're
Speaker 1: ready to get into the driver's seat of your own
Speaker 1: life and stop letting life past you by, then you're
Speaker 1: in the right place. Hey everybody, and welcome back to
Speaker 1: the RNC potty. Oh my god, today do we have
Speaker 1: an episode for you?
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: Me and it here are both obsessed with Doctor Libby.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Doctor Libby is a nutritional biochemist. She is a thirteen
Speaker 1: time best selling author and international acclaimed speaker. We are
Speaker 1: so grateful to have her on the potty. This interview
Speaker 1: was done a little bit differently. We thought it would
Speaker 1: be a bit of fun to do a GE's hotline,
Speaker 1: but with doctor Libby. So basically we just quick fired
Speaker 1: all your health questions. We put them in the Facebook.
Speaker 1: Of course, got you guys to get involved. If you're
Speaker 1: not in the Facebook, come and join us. And oh
Speaker 1: my god, she is a wealth of knowledge, isn't she
Speaker 1: just like amazing And I love she did speak about
Speaker 1: it in the interview, but I love how she approaches
Speaker 1: everything very holistically, which I find is tends to be
Speaker 1: more rare in the health and fitness industry.
Speaker 3: And she says she does it from three pillars, which
Speaker 3: is psychological, emotional, and scientific, And I feel like it
Speaker 3: just makes everything so like easy to understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so digestible and a big thing I noticed And
Speaker 1: what I loved and I think you guys will absolutely love,
Speaker 1: is she's a little bit woo woo, yes, so good.
Speaker 1: Like she broad in some things about you know, you
Speaker 1: guys will hear that, like, you know, I've got health
Speaker 1: and how much you know, like our concept of self
Speaker 1: like deals with that and I had never ever hurt
Speaker 1: someone who is more scientifically based, like talk in that way,
Speaker 1: and it was so beautiful and I think it's also
Speaker 1: you guys will like listen to this episode. You'll feel
Speaker 1: her energy and also you'll be like, oh wow, I
Speaker 1: can actually see things, you know, from her point of view,
Speaker 1: but also yeah, be able to understand and digest it.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: So today we're chatting about We asked her a whole
Speaker 1: heap of questions, but just a couple is like how
Speaker 1: to eat for your hormones, eating around your cycle? She
Speaker 1: answers the This was like one of the most asked
Speaker 1: questions of the Facebook, and he was so surprised, but
Speaker 1: then it made a lot of sense. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: a bit shocked. I didn't know what she was going
Speaker 1: to say, but I'm so happy with her answer. But
Speaker 1: how bad dairy actually is and just which milk is best?
Speaker 1: It takes such a big question, eh, And then also
Speaker 1: you know how to eat for your gut and so
Speaker 1: much more. She also answered some really good questions around sugar,
Speaker 1: what it actually does to our bodies, how we can
Speaker 1: minimize it. And I didn't really understand like whyologically what
Speaker 1: like goes on and it was like so mind blowing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was really that was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite parts of the interview too.
Speaker 3: Mine too. I love how she was talking about sugar
Speaker 3: and she actually launched a sugar course that I've been
Speaker 3: doing and I think you've been doing it as well
Speaker 3: as Georgy.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the sugar cost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it because she I personally love sugar
Speaker 3: like I love it, my chocolate I have like I love,
Speaker 3: I love sweet things, I have a sweet tooth. But
Speaker 3: I didn't realize how dependent I was on sugar and
Speaker 3: how much it controlled me. And I wanted to take
Speaker 3: that control back. Like I don't want to cut sugar out.
Speaker 3: I'm not that person, but I do want to have
Speaker 3: control over when I eat it and I don't want
Speaker 3: to crave it. And I think that's what drew me
Speaker 3: to the course, her course so much, because even though
Speaker 3: it is more like of a shake off sugar, that's
Speaker 3: what it's called as well, it's more about having the
Speaker 3: power to decide how much you want.
Speaker 1: Well. I so I've been doing the course soon fuck it.
Speaker 1: It's good. It's also good because, like I know, the
Speaker 1: first video is but then the next one's like they come,
Speaker 1: they're a lot shorter, and I felt like I could
Speaker 1: like digest it really easy. Yeah, but like I think
Speaker 1: one of them was like four minutes long, Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is really great. We're tied. Yeah, But what I really
Speaker 1: liked is for me personally, when I have awareness about
Speaker 1: what something is. Because if you just tell me sugar
Speaker 1: is bad, don't have it it? Will you know this
Speaker 1: and that, Like that's not really gonna get me. But
Speaker 1: if you give me awareness what actually is happening, and
Speaker 1: also tell me like a lot of things of did
Speaker 1: you know you know when you have sugar at this time,
Speaker 1: or you know, like the different things like that where
Speaker 1: I'm like when I'm then having three sugars in my coffee,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hmm, this is half of what today. This
Speaker 1: is so interesting step into curiosity because we're not doing
Speaker 1: shame here and I can just be so much more
Speaker 1: conscious And then again, like you a tire, actually make
Speaker 1: the decision for myself, because if someone tells me cut
Speaker 1: out sugar, I'm like no. But if you tell me,
Speaker 1: you know, give me a lot of information, and then
Speaker 1: you're like, you do what's best for you? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think I'm gonna pick Yes, Aly, she can't
Speaker 1: mind fucking us little bit she is and I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So on that note, did we end up getting a
Speaker 1: code for the course tier? Yes, we did, all right,
Speaker 1: go ahead share it away.
Speaker 3: Because we loved it so much. We did ask doctor
Speaker 3: Libby if there was a possibility of getting a discount
Speaker 3: code for you.
Speaker 1: All, we know you love a dissy. Yeah, and she's
Speaker 1: very kind.
Speaker 3: She's given us a discount code so you can use
Speaker 3: Georgie ten at checkout for ten percent off the next
Speaker 3: intake of the course, which is on March twenty seventh.
Speaker 3: We'll pop the link to like the infra page for
Speaker 3: the course and all of that in show notes. But honestly,
Speaker 3: couldn't recommend it enough. I have already learned so much,
Speaker 3: and we're only at the end of the first phase
Speaker 3: of the course at the moment, and we still got
Speaker 3: two more to go, and I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really excited for the second phase. Weekly Wrecks
Speaker 1: U go first.
Speaker 3: I am struggling on the recommendations front at the moment,
Speaker 3: but I would like to recommend watching We shared it
Speaker 3: on Instagram. The Oscar Winners speeches that were done, particularly
Speaker 3: by Michelle Yeo, And I apologize if I'm mispronouncing his name,
Speaker 3: but kihoy Kwon I they are the most expanding speeches
Speaker 3: I think I've heard in such a long time. And
Speaker 3: I've gone into like, oh, I haven't gone in a
Speaker 3: deep dive, but a lot of their tiktoks have been
Speaker 3: coming up now because I've been interacting with that content
Speaker 3: and just hearing more about their stories and what they
Speaker 3: went through. And he had his health insurance taken away
Speaker 3: from him at one point because he wasn't booking enough work,
Speaker 3: and he came he went to America's refugee and it's
Speaker 3: just like insane to think that, oh my gosh, like
Speaker 3: he's winning an Oscar now, so literally anything can happen.
Speaker 1: So incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think just like I guess my recommendation
Speaker 3: is exposed yourself to some expense content this week.
Speaker 1: I think I love that so much. Yeah, what's yours?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a bit rokier and I think like
Speaker 1: I am going on a bit of a lots of
Speaker 1: journey's happening right now. But as you guys know, like
Speaker 1: I got a personal coach, like a business a business
Speaker 1: mentor so I've been going on that journey. But then
Speaker 1: also it has been bringing up a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: stuff about even just like me personally, like with my health.
Speaker 1: And then so now I've also got like a health
Speaker 1: coach and he's been helping me a lot. And my
Speaker 1: wreck for the week is like, know that you can
Speaker 1: do things differently, so bear with me. I'm going to
Speaker 1: get to the point. So, for example, with my health coach,
Speaker 1: I've actually been working with him in a very unique way.
Speaker 1: So he's like he's a bit of a fitness bro.
Speaker 1: I love that. He would probably feel like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: don't call me that, but he's a bit of a
Speaker 1: fitness bow. And like I'm guessing with his other clients,
Speaker 1: like they do micros and it's like that sort of shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like that's just not my vibe. I don't really
Speaker 1: want to be weighing my food and doing that. It's
Speaker 1: it's just I don't want to do it. And also
Speaker 1: not to say I won't do it in the future,
Speaker 1: like I probably won't, but I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be like that person who's like really against something
Speaker 1: and if you do it, amazing, But I was just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: so what I'm actually needing. And I had a conversation
Speaker 1: with him and I was like, so, what I'm actually
Speaker 1: needing is almost like an accountability buddy beg clues. What
Speaker 1: happens with me is I have a lot of the
Speaker 1: knowledge and also like I've done a lot of things
Speaker 1: where it's like I know generally how I should be
Speaker 1: eating a complete meal. I know, you know, the cubs
Speaker 1: and fats and proteins and different things, but when I
Speaker 1: get busy at work, I resort to going to the
Speaker 1: easiest and fastest option. And I kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to strengthen being that person who doesn't do that,
Speaker 1: but in order to do that, I needed some help. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I kind of said to him like I
Speaker 1: kind of want to work a bit different and I
Speaker 1: don't want to like fucking do the macros and stuff,
Speaker 1: but I literally just want to And also I don't
Speaker 1: want you to give me a meal plan because that's
Speaker 1: also not the vibe for me.
Speaker 3: It's like I want to eat what I want when
Speaker 3: I want, yes, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: I want some direction. So how I actually work with him?
Speaker 1: And actually I'll just give him a quick shout out
Speaker 1: shout out to j Fizzle. His name is actually Jared Wills,
Speaker 1: but we'll call him Jay Fizzle. So I'll put his
Speaker 1: little thing in the bio. Okay, is that a bio?
Speaker 3: Show notes show notes.
Speaker 1: I'll put his little link in the show notes Jared.
Speaker 1: So how I work with Jared is I actually just
Speaker 1: send him my meals and then he gives me feedback
Speaker 1: after the fact.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: So we have that little like fitness app, we fucking
Speaker 1: inter and it's like you know, Breakfast and chain of
Speaker 1: Russ and then he will be like, hey, like if
Speaker 1: I've sent it to him in real time, he can
Speaker 1: give me real time feedback of like you need to
Speaker 1: add protein in. And this is the huge thing that
Speaker 1: I've like noticed is like my protein lax, which is
Speaker 1: funny because like I own a protein which he throws
Speaker 1: in my face and just have a shake. You have
Speaker 1: a million usually And you know what else, I fucking
Speaker 1: love He's so brutal with me. He's so savage, and
Speaker 1: I love it. And then you know he can tell
Speaker 1: me in real time or even because sometimes that's just
Speaker 1: not feasible because I'm so fucking busy. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: will send it in the app like after hours and
Speaker 1: then he can give me some feedback back and after
Speaker 1: the week. And it's not the quickest way because it
Speaker 1: is quite slow because we're like going back and forth
Speaker 1: sometimes like I've really fucking eaten the stuff in the
Speaker 1: day and it's like I should have added protein all
Speaker 1: this and that. But I'm learning and I'm also able
Speaker 1: to do things in a way that works for me
Speaker 1: and my lifestyle. And I think sometimes we get stuck
Speaker 1: in the oh, well, I want to get a PT
Speaker 1: or I want to get a coach, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to weigh my meals and I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to do this, so it's automatically, automatically
Speaker 1: you cancel them out. And so a big wreck from
Speaker 1: me this week is, you know, if you do want
Speaker 1: to evolve and you do want like help along the journey,
Speaker 1: is like asked to do things differently because it can
Speaker 1: look different for you. And it's also fine if it's
Speaker 1: slower or it's like not the quote unquote how it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be, because if it works for you, it's
Speaker 1: actually going to be sustainable and you're actually going to
Speaker 1: be able to stick to it. And I find like
Speaker 1: with how we've been working together, I'm able to I
Speaker 1: do things in my way and I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: learning a lot and i feel like I'm making really
Speaker 1: great changes, even though like they're very incremental. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like that's what I'm like, Oh, that's the vibe
Speaker 1: for me, and that's fine. Whereas for example, I might
Speaker 1: have you know, my business coach and fucking work really
Speaker 1: fast or like work in a different way. But it's
Speaker 1: like having the autonomy of like knowing you can do
Speaker 1: things in a different way. They get to look different
Speaker 1: and it might just be having that conversation with that person,
Speaker 1: so like really random outside the box.
Speaker 4: But yeah, anyway, let's get into the episode.
Speaker 1: Doctor Libby. Welcome to the Rights and Conquer Podcasts.
Speaker 2: Georgie. It's a joy to join you. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for having me.
Speaker 1: We are so excited. I'm actually I'm a huge fan
Speaker 1: and I've got like all your books.
Speaker 2: That's so sweet that I hope they're useful.
Speaker 1: They're so useful, and I feel like I found you
Speaker 1: years and years ago when I was really you know,
Speaker 1: getting into my health journey and really figuring out what
Speaker 1: health meant for me and you know, getting away from
Speaker 1: diet culture and that sort of thing, and I just
Speaker 1: I found your books and your approach to everything so
Speaker 1: well rounded, and I love I was dealing with like
Speaker 1: a hormone imbalance at the time, and so I loved
Speaker 1: your information and just how you said it in such
Speaker 1: a way that I could like digest and really you know,
Speaker 1: resonate with. So yeah, I'm really excited for this.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. That's really that's really lovely.
Speaker 2: So first of.
Speaker 1: All, before we get into the hotline questions. Our community
Speaker 1: was so excited, got quite a few health questions. We're
Speaker 1: all a bit of a on a healthcare right now.
Speaker 1: But before we get into that, do you want to
Speaker 1: just give us a quick intro in your own words
Speaker 1: of who you are and what you do?
Speaker 2: Oh? Thank you? Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I grew up in tamworin Country, New South Wales, Australia.
Speaker 5: My office right now is in burly Heads on the
Speaker 5: Gold Coast, which is obviously.
Speaker 2: Gorgeous spot that we all love.
Speaker 5: But I went to university for fourteen years, which I
Speaker 5: know makes me sound really thick and like I failed everything,
Speaker 5: but I very much loved learning and I still do.
Speaker 5: So I originally studied nutrition and dietetics and then did
Speaker 5: honors and then did a PhD in biochemistry. So there's
Speaker 5: lots of science in my background. But since then, I've
Speaker 5: worked with people one on one for about twenty three
Speaker 5: twenty four years, and that's where you get to see
Speaker 5: what really makes a difference in people's lives. And I've
Speaker 5: combined my twenty plus years of clinical experience with my
Speaker 5: fourteen years at UNI to create what I call my
Speaker 5: three pillar approach. And those three pillars are the biochemical, the.
Speaker 2: Nutritional, and the emotional. So I look at absolutely everything
Speaker 2: through those three lenses.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, and I think that's why, you know, I
Speaker 1: found your content so easy to digest. Is you really come,
Speaker 1: you know, from every avenue. So that's epic. Well, let's
Speaker 1: get straight into it, Guys Hotline with doctor Libby. Feel
Speaker 1: so privileged, So let's get into some female questions. And look,
Speaker 1: these are kind of some really really great questions that
Speaker 1: our community has. And so the first one is, you know,
Speaker 1: how can we start eating for hormone balancing and just
Speaker 1: to be you know, nice to our hormones because I
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes when we think of hormones, we don't
Speaker 1: think of, you know, the food we eat every single day.
Speaker 5: So our hormones love whole, real food, and they don't
Speaker 5: love certain substances in processed food, so particularly ultra processed
Speaker 5: foods that are full of fake food ingredients and you know,
Speaker 5: jam packed with sugar or artificial sweetness.
Speaker 2: Our hormone balance doesn't love that.
Speaker 5: Because not only when it comes to our sex hormones,
Speaker 5: obviously the majority are made in our ovaries, but our
Speaker 5: adrainal glands also made a small amount. Our adrenals are
Speaker 5: also where we make our stress hormones from. But beyond
Speaker 5: the ovaries being able to make estrogen and progesterone, for example,
Speaker 5: that all needs nutrients, but the systems in the body
Speaker 5: that actually regulate our hormones they also need nutrients. So,
Speaker 5: for example, the liver and the gut are primarily responsible
Speaker 5: for estrogen metabolism, and a lot of challenges with hormones
Speaker 5: occur when we're producing too much estrogen and our body
Speaker 5: is not able to effectively detoxify the estrogen that we make,
Speaker 5: So the liver is the organ primarily responsible for detoxification.
Speaker 5: So when we're choosing foods that I refer to as
Speaker 5: liver loaders. They're some of the biggest corruptors. And I
Speaker 5: know it's not fun to hear. And I only say
Speaker 5: this not to say don't ever have this stuff, But
Speaker 5: we just need to get honest with ourselves about how
Speaker 5: these things affect us. So, for example, alcohol is a
Speaker 5: really big disruptor to healthy estrogen metabolism, so we need
Speaker 5: to understand that and then adjust ourselves accordingly. So some
Speaker 5: women will share with me, if they have an alcoholic
Speaker 5: drink or a few, say, seven days after they've started menstruating,
Speaker 5: they handle it a lot better than if they have
Speaker 5: it just before they're about to bleed. They might notice
Speaker 5: they don't sleep properly, or they get really hot that
Speaker 5: it bloats them more. So you can start to pay
Speaker 5: attention if you want to to how that stuff affects you.
Speaker 5: But as far as eating for hormones go, when you eat,
Speaker 5: to look after your liver, and that's a really great step.
Speaker 5: The liver loves whole real foods. It loves it particularly
Speaker 5: loves veggies. It loves the veggies in the brassica family,
Speaker 5: so broccoli, couliflower, kale, brussels sprouts, it really loves those.
Speaker 5: But also and I feel that your community will find
Speaker 5: this really fascinating. I know when I first learned it, it
Speaker 5: just blew my mind. Detoxification actually has two phases that
Speaker 5: it goes through in the liver, and phase one needs
Speaker 5: all sorts of nutrients, including iron, and iron is the
Speaker 5: most peutritional deficiency amongst women of menstruation age, pregnant women,
Speaker 5: and unfortunately also children.
Speaker 2: So we don't just.
Speaker 5: Need iron for great energy and a clear mind, but
Speaker 5: we need it for really healthy phase one liver detox
Speaker 5: pathways to work properly.
Speaker 2: We also need.
Speaker 5: Iron for thyroid function, which has not talked about enough.
Speaker 5: So when we're talking about our sex hormones, the liver
Speaker 5: obviously it needs iron to be able to detox estrogen effectively.
Speaker 5: So that's a really big one, and I know I'm rambling,
Speaker 5: but just really quickly before I wrap that answer up.
Speaker 5: The way that we eat needs to foster ovulation, because
Speaker 5: it's that lovely big surge of progesterone that we get
Speaker 5: after we ovulate. That it's not just important progesterone. It's
Speaker 5: not just important for fertility. It is it has so
Speaker 5: many extraordinary biological bio logical effects. It's a really powerful
Speaker 5: anti anxiety agent, it's an antidepressant.
Speaker 2: It's a diuretic.
Speaker 5: It allows us to use it, lets us get rid
Speaker 5: of excess fluid, and it's crucial for thyroid function as well.
Speaker 5: So when we choose whole real food, you give your
Speaker 5: ovaries what they need to be able to foster ovulation.
Speaker 5: So it's nutrients like iodine, selenium, zinc, vitamin D which
Speaker 5: we mostly get from sunshine. They're some of the key
Speaker 5: nutrients that will help foster ovulation.
Speaker 1: Would you recommend like supplementing with iron and some of
Speaker 1: the ones you just enlisted then, or would you prefer
Speaker 1: we get it from whole foods.
Speaker 5: So if someone is actually iron deficient and they know
Speaker 5: that through a blood test, food alone won't get that
Speaker 5: back up. In my clinical experience, you need to supplement.
Speaker 5: For some people very sadly that iron will be so
Speaker 5: low they'll need an infusion. Even supplements, you know, just
Speaker 5: they it's almost like they can't catch up, particularly if
Speaker 5: menstruation is really heavy, if you're losing a lot of
Speaker 5: blood every month. What I would always do is work
Speaker 5: on the blood loss to see if we can lighten
Speaker 5: it at the same time as supplementing the iron for example.
Speaker 1: And then what about the ones you listed before, like
Speaker 1: the selenium and that sort of thing, would you suggest
Speaker 1: supplementing or trying to get from our foods.
Speaker 5: So selenium is a pretty easy one to get with
Speaker 5: food because we only need between two and six brazil
Speaker 5: nuts a day to get our selenium. So if you
Speaker 5: just think that, it's almost like little they're like a
Speaker 5: little selenium pill if you like.
Speaker 2: But I love brazil brazil nuts into it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of really that's so awesome, really awesome.
Speaker 5: So just talthy brazil nuts into a nut mix you
Speaker 5: might be having and your selenium needs a covered.
Speaker 2: If you don't like them, then yes, you'd need to supplement.
Speaker 5: Zinc is a really can be a very very important
Speaker 5: nutrient to supplement for both men and women, but particularly
Speaker 5: for hormone balance. So copper and zinc compete for absorption.
Speaker 5: And over the years, when I used to see patients
Speaker 5: and I did a lot of blood testing for a
Speaker 5: lot of people, their copper was quite high and.
Speaker 2: Their zinc was very low.
Speaker 5: And so before your body can even start to take
Speaker 5: up zinc, you've got to get the copper down for
Speaker 5: the body to be able to take up the zinc,
Speaker 5: and again it was really difficult to do that with
Speaker 5: food alone. Supplementation of zinc I found was often incredibly
Speaker 5: beneficial and really essential for a lot of women went
Speaker 5: with hormones out of whack.
Speaker 1: So just quickly, you know, before we move on for this,
Speaker 1: I just find it so interesting. So some foods we
Speaker 1: can incorporate, you know before we try supplements. Is the
Speaker 1: brazil nuts for the selenium. What about what foods are
Speaker 1: high in zinc?
Speaker 5: So Zinc the fascinating nutrient because it used to be
Speaker 5: in the soil, so when we ate our fruits and
Speaker 5: our veggies, for example, we would get some zinc, whereas
Speaker 5: now most soils are deficient in zinc. And if a
Speaker 5: nutrient isn't in the soil, it can't be in the food.
Speaker 5: So our only real sources we have of zinc these
Speaker 5: days are oysters, red meat, and then there's a small
Speaker 5: amount of zinc in eggs and seeds like pumpkin seeds
Speaker 5: and some flower seeds. So you can see that it's
Speaker 5: really easy for us to become deficient in zinc. So
Speaker 5: they're the main food sources of zinc.
Speaker 1: Okay, amazing, I'll be supplementing I do love oysters, so
Speaker 1: and I would love to chat to you. So this
Speaker 1: is actually just a selfish question. I'm just chucking in
Speaker 1: right now, going a bit rogue. But going off that question,
Speaker 1: you did you know say how important it was for
Speaker 1: your thyroid? And I am someone who has an underactive thyroid.
Speaker 1: What you know some main things someone with a thyroid
Speaker 1: condition can be doing to like I do take you know,
Speaker 1: a medication, but just to be helping my thyroid and
Speaker 1: just being conscious of it. What sort of things can
Speaker 1: we be doing?
Speaker 5: So our thyroid is it's most extraordinary gland, but it
Speaker 5: doesn't act alone. So the beginning of the signaling to
Speaker 5: the thyroid, it actually comes from a region in the
Speaker 5: brain called the hypothalamus, and the hypothalamus makes a hormone
Speaker 5: and it calls out to the petuatory gland, which is
Speaker 5: also in the brain, and the petutory makes a hormone
Speaker 5: that probably a lot of people in your community will
Speaker 5: be familiar with. The petuittary hormone that talks to the
Speaker 5: thyroid is called TSH thyroid stimulating hormone, and the TSH
Speaker 5: says to the thyroid, you need to make your hormones
Speaker 5: now and Obviously, the hormones the thyroid make a T
Speaker 5: four and T three, But for T four, which is
Speaker 5: the inactive thyroid hormone which doesn't have an effect on metabolism,
Speaker 5: for example, T three is the active one that affects
Speaker 5: metabolism and helps to regulate temperature. For T four to
Speaker 5: be converted into T three in a successful way, there's
Speaker 5: a whole host of nutrients that are needed, so iodine, selenium, iron,
Speaker 5: and zinc. There are those nutrients again, so we need
Speaker 5: those nutrients really good thyroid function, ideally getting them from food.
Speaker 5: If we're not getting enough from food, then you're supplementing.
Speaker 5: The other thing we need for healthy thyroid function ideally
Speaker 5: is regular ovulation, because as I said, progesterone is soporative
Speaker 5: of healthy thyroid function. The thyroid loves progesterone and it
Speaker 5: doesn't love an excessive amount of estrogen. Which is one
Speaker 5: of the most common hormonal imbalances I've seen in my
Speaker 5: working life is that low progesterone or no progesterone coupled
Speaker 5: with excess estrogen, so that can disrupt thyroid function.
Speaker 2: Infections can as well.
Speaker 5: So over the years, I've met lots of people and
Speaker 5: they've had things like glandular fever, and some people when
Speaker 5: they have a virus, any virus really, but I'll use
Speaker 5: glandular fever for the example, which is epstein bar virus.
Speaker 2: Some people have that and they don't even know they've
Speaker 2: had it.
Speaker 5: Other people have glandula free and they go to bed
Speaker 5: for three months and they'll say to someone like me,
Speaker 5: I have never felt the same since I have been fatigued.
Speaker 2: Ever since I had that.
Speaker 5: So a virus can actually long term effect something like
Speaker 5: thyroid function. And the reason I have a phrase my work,
Speaker 5: which is the road in is.
Speaker 2: The road out.
Speaker 5: So whatever created the dysfunction, I want to work out
Speaker 5: what that is because I want to treat that thing.
Speaker 5: Because like, for example, if someone's thyroid is towards the
Speaker 5: underactive end of the spectrum and it's let's say it's
Speaker 5: because of iodine deficiency. If I give that person some iodine,
Speaker 5: their thyroid function will improve. But if the thyroid isn't
Speaker 5: working properly because of low progesterone excess estrogen, then no
Speaker 5: amount of iodine will affect that will improve the thyroid.
Speaker 5: Addressing the hormone imbalance will improve the thyroid function. So
Speaker 5: that's why I always want to know what's created the
Speaker 5: dysfunction in the first place and then address that thing. So, yes,
Speaker 5: food plays a role in thytooid function, so does immunity,
Speaker 5: and of course our hormone balance.
Speaker 1: So interesting. So then the next question I have is
Speaker 1: eating for perimen and poresal and mental poresal women. So
Speaker 1: we have someone in our community who says she's forty
Speaker 1: six and men a pausal, and you know, she's gone
Speaker 1: from never having any weight issues to now having extra weight.
Speaker 1: She can't shift, and she feels like she has the
Speaker 1: same diet and she's just like, what is happening?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So such a common scenario, but it doesn't need
Speaker 5: to be this way, So one of the a few
Speaker 5: changes happen, obviously, but insulin resistance is one of the
Speaker 5: biggest things that can start to present itself through this
Speaker 5: perimenopausal transition, and it's why some women describe it as
Speaker 5: belly fat being really hard to shift. So things they
Speaker 5: used to do that address that no longer work, and
Speaker 5: it's nearly always because there's some insulin resistance there, and
Speaker 5: it's the actually it's the insulin resistance.
Speaker 2: That needs to be addressed.
Speaker 5: So when you know that there's something gone awry biochemically,
Speaker 5: you can then address that thing. Rather than I feel
Speaker 5: like my clothes don't fit me anymore, and people will
Speaker 5: just think I need to lose weight. No, No, most
Speaker 5: people my whole working life, I've said, most people will
Speaker 5: tell you you've got to lose weight to be healthy.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you it's the opposite.
Speaker 5: You've actually got to be healthy before your body will
Speaker 5: let go of. Some people healthier with more body fat.
Speaker 5: Some people are too skinny to have good health, so
Speaker 5: they do better with a bit more body fat on them.
Speaker 5: Other people, their health is much better with less body fat.
Speaker 5: So I focus on health and then the body fat
Speaker 5: just falls into place. Literally, I've seen it with thousands
Speaker 5: of people. So through the menopausal the perimenopause will transition
Speaker 5: are really scenario is belly fat, and it's nearly always
Speaker 5: because of insulin resistance. Because what happens at perimenopause. The
Speaker 5: first change that happens is we stop ovulating every month.
Speaker 5: And we might ovulate sometimes, but let's say it's only
Speaker 5: randomly three times a year, rather than every month like clockwork.
Speaker 5: So when we stop ovulating every month, we lose that
Speaker 5: lovely surge of progesterone and all of the beautiful benefits,
Speaker 5: the calming effects of it, especially, we lose those benefits.
Speaker 5: The next stage in perimenopause is fluctuations in estrogen, so
Speaker 5: we can get really big surges in estrogen, and then
Speaker 5: the estrogen can plummet, and those two scenarios lead us
Speaker 5: to feel usually or they can lead us to feel
Speaker 5: incredibly uncomfortable. So and then eventually the third stage of perimenopause,
Speaker 5: just before we become postmenopausal, is when there's no progesterone
Speaker 5: and estrogen is very very very low. That's the last age,
Speaker 5: and then the period stop for twelve months, and then
Speaker 5: the twelve month anniversary of your last period is mentopause,
Speaker 5: and then your postmenopausem So you can hear in the
Speaker 5: way I've described that that we go from having really
Speaker 5: robust ovarian production of hormones like estrogen and progesterone to
Speaker 5: having none or very little of those hormones. But testosterone
Speaker 5: another hormone that women make. Obviously men make more of it,
Speaker 5: but we women make it. Testosterone levels through this transition
Speaker 5: don't really change, and what occurs at this time in
Speaker 5: our life is a natural testosterone dominance.
Speaker 2: Now the words I use are really important.
Speaker 5: At this point, it's just a testosterone dominance, not an excess.
Speaker 5: But when we've got insulin resistance in the background, when
Speaker 5: that's been biochemically created, because we've been able to and
Speaker 5: I put this in inverted commons, we've been able to
Speaker 5: get away with a bit of lausey eating, it can
Speaker 5: start to catch up with you at this time because
Speaker 5: that insulin resistance actually can push testosterone high, and so
Speaker 5: then you have an excessive testosterone, and that excessive testosterone
Speaker 5: actually makes insulin resistance worse.
Speaker 2: So women will notice.
Speaker 5: That they grow hair on their face, their head, on
Speaker 5: their hair starts to thin and fall out. They're really
Speaker 5: common scenarios. You might notice skin tags. And one of
Speaker 5: the biggest things that set us up for that, Georgie,
Speaker 5: is way too much sugar across our whole life, and
Speaker 5: we don't even realize how much we're having. We're currently
Speaker 5: told it's okay, and I question this, but we're currently
Speaker 5: told it's okay to have six tea spoons a day.
Speaker 5: But on average down under at the moment, we have
Speaker 5: thirty seven teaspoons of sugar per day.
Speaker 2: Just mostly from processed foods, so it's way too much.
Speaker 5: And because of that, it leads to people to have
Speaker 5: these constant insulin responses all day, every day, year after year,
Speaker 5: decade after decade, and it does set us up for
Speaker 5: insulin resistance, which is one of the biggest challenges. For
Speaker 5: what this lady is actually describing, that's part of what
Speaker 5: needs to be addressed, which is coming back and eating whole,
Speaker 5: real foods and unfortunately shoving those shoving those process foods aside.
Speaker 1: This is kind of going off, you know, a bit
Speaker 1: off topic, but it's really interesting. Just this morning, I
Speaker 1: have done, you know, a bit of a shift where
Speaker 1: I've just included a lot more whole foods.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 1: I'm on a bit of a mission at the moment
Speaker 1: just for my gut health to you know, eat a
Speaker 1: variety of plants and seeds and fruit and veg. So
Speaker 1: it's made me be a bit more adventurous and including
Speaker 1: a lot more whole foods while also you know, reducing
Speaker 1: my sugar. And it's interesting because I am about thirteen
Speaker 1: months postpartum and I was just telling my husband this
Speaker 1: morning because I got my period and I like, I
Speaker 1: kind of didn't even know it was coming. I didn't
Speaker 1: really get PMS signals and you know, I didn't get
Speaker 1: any cramps or anything. And I said to him this morning,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, my little health kick is actually
Speaker 1: working quite well, because a huge signed for me if
Speaker 1: I'm you know, hashed, you know, in that healthy range,
Speaker 1: is my period isn't you know, causing me grief. And
Speaker 1: it's really nice because you know, it's not like physically
Speaker 1: I have seen to you know, too much change or
Speaker 1: anything like that, and it's not that that health kicker
Speaker 1: was around that. But it's really nice to like notice
Speaker 1: these other things and being like, oh, yeah, like my
Speaker 1: period actually hasn't bothered me this month, or it's not painful,
Speaker 1: and it's not you know, I haven't got cloths and
Speaker 1: all these things that I'm like, oh, you know, eating
Speaker 1: whole foods. It's so simple, but just like switching the
Speaker 1: not like less process to more whole foods. It's like
Speaker 1: so simple. But I just thought that was like a
Speaker 1: great aha moment for me this morning.
Speaker 5: I'm so excited for you and it's doesn't it just
Speaker 5: encourage you to want to keep going and to continue
Speaker 5: to nourish your body and the body doesn't have a voice,
Speaker 5: but it gives us feedback about our choices all the time.
Speaker 5: And when it gives us, you know, things that we
Speaker 5: struggle with or that might frustrate us or make us sad,
Speaker 5: it's feedback asking us to eat or drink or move
Speaker 5: or think or breathe or believe or perceive in a
Speaker 5: new way.
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's a number of those areas.
Speaker 5: But when you simply make a shift, and I know
Speaker 5: it doesn't feel simple for a lot of people, and
Speaker 5: obviously that's part of what I do, is try to
Speaker 5: help it be a lot simpler for people to focus
Speaker 5: on eating more whole, real food. You get all these benefits,
Speaker 5: because that's the most amazing barometer, isn't it for you?
Speaker 5: Just with those changes you've made.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting. And even like this morning, like
Speaker 1: when I got my well it's actually yesterday. When I
Speaker 1: got it, I went, ah, that's so interesting, like the
Speaker 1: whole previous week. I'm usually so bloated and tender, and
Speaker 1: I hold a lot of water. I'm someone who like water.
Speaker 1: Retention is like it happens to me every month, and
Speaker 1: I just noticed oneing and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't have water retention. I wasn't really blow like that's
Speaker 1: so interesting, so and then I like clocked it. I
Speaker 1: was like, hmm, that's really cool. So yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: And now you're saying this, I'm like, it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Doesn't it.
Speaker 5: And again, if you stop and think about it, it
Speaker 5: really wasn't that long ago in human history where that
Speaker 5: was all we had available. And then obviously processed food
Speaker 5: became available, but you know, it was what you ate
Speaker 5: at birthday parties, not you know, not that long ago,
Speaker 5: whereas for a lot of people, ultra process foods have
Speaker 5: just become part.
Speaker 1: Of every day, every day, and it's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's what we do every day that impacts
Speaker 5: on our health, it's not what we do occasionally.
Speaker 2: And when people will say to me, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: what do you.
Speaker 5: Think about, they'll ask me about a particular food, and
Speaker 5: you know, it'll often be a process food, and I'll say, well,
Speaker 5: for me, there's just no such thing as junk food.
Speaker 5: There's just junk and there's food, and as a human species,
Speaker 5: all we've ever eaten up until the recent past is food.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it just kind of makes sense.
Speaker 5: It needs to be mostly, not always, but mostly what
Speaker 5: we in.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get into some food questions. What is your
Speaker 1: thoughts and feelings on food intolerances.
Speaker 5: So I think they're fairly common, and I think too,
Speaker 5: it's important to distinguish between a true food allergy and
Speaker 5: a food intolerance. So a true food allergy is an
Speaker 5: immune mediated response. If you want to get really geeky,
Speaker 5: the immune system makes a little substance called iminoglobulin E
Speaker 5: or it's abbreviated to IgE. So if someone has anaphylaxis
Speaker 5: to something like peanuts, that's an IgE mediated immune response,
Speaker 5: and that's a true allergy, whereas food intolerance is The
Speaker 5: mechanisms that create them are really varied, but it doesn't
Speaker 5: involve that IgE mechanism that I just mentioned. So people
Speaker 5: might get skin responses like rashes, they might get gut symptoms.
Speaker 5: That's really and whenever someone is experiencing a food intolerance,
Speaker 5: I always would work like a detective until the symptoms
Speaker 5: to the best of my ability, I would work until
Speaker 5: the symptoms were completely resolved. If we'd gone down lots
Speaker 5: of different food roads trying to get someone an outcome.
Speaker 5: I also would sometimes start to bring up stress and
Speaker 5: what stress really is for someone because when we're producing adrenaline,
Speaker 5: it diverts the blood supply that's normally really fantastic in
Speaker 5: support of our digestive system. When we make adrenaline, it
Speaker 5: diverts the blood supply away from digestion to our periphery,
Speaker 5: to our arms and our legs, because adrenaline says our
Speaker 5: lives in danger, and we need a good blood supply
Speaker 5: and our arms and legs to powers to get out
Speaker 5: of danger. So with that shift in the focus of
Speaker 5: the blood supply, digestion can be compromised. So I find
Speaker 5: that some people and they've got a food intolerance, they
Speaker 5: might get a bit of an improvement, but if it's
Speaker 5: not a complete improvement, I'll start, as I said, to
Speaker 5: talk to them about stress and what actually leads them
Speaker 5: as an individual to make stress hormones. Because I think
Speaker 5: we've got to a point in society where we understand
Speaker 5: that stress is part of our life, but because we
Speaker 5: think that it's just how life is, you feel quite
Speaker 5: powerless to do anything about it. So back in twenty
Speaker 5: nineteen I wrote a book actually called The Invisible Load
Speaker 5: to try to change the conversation about stress so that
Speaker 5: people could actually work out what was stressful for them
Speaker 5: as an individual, Like, let's get really clear about this
Speaker 5: and let's see what we can do about it. And
Speaker 5: obviously there's very real and genuine stress in the world
Speaker 5: right now, and there's very real and genuine stress in
Speaker 5: people's lives, but there's also a huge amount of stress
Speaker 5: we create for ourselves because of how we think. Because
Speaker 5: if you think about adrenaline, now, we're so fortunate, we're
Speaker 5: relatively safe. You know, we might make adrenaline when a
Speaker 5: car drives out in front of us and we have
Speaker 5: to slam on our brakes, but otherwise, the things that
Speaker 5: lead us to produce adrenaline block your ears.
Speaker 2: You won't like this is caffeine.
Speaker 5: Very sadly, adrenalinefine leads the body to make adrenaline, sorry
Speaker 5: to everyone listening, And I'm not saying don't drink it,
Speaker 5: but we can very easily over consume it anyway.
Speaker 2: So the caffeine leads us to make adrenaline.
Speaker 5: Our perceptions of pressure and urgency lead us to make adrenaline.
Speaker 5: And I put the word perception in there for a reason,
Speaker 5: and that's because, yeah, we forget that we can choose
Speaker 5: how we see things. Now, I'm not saying for a
Speaker 5: second that there aren't things that aren't urgent.
Speaker 2: Of course there are.
Speaker 5: If you get a phone call from school that your
Speaker 5: child's been injured, that's urgent.
Speaker 2: You want to get there quickly.
Speaker 5: But what a lot of us do is we make
Speaker 5: what we get to do each day full of stress
Speaker 5: and pressure and urgency, which sort of feeds into the
Speaker 5: third and final reason. I think we make adrenaline in
Speaker 5: modern times, and it's because we either conscious or unconsciously
Speaker 5: worry about what other people think of us. We seek
Speaker 5: approval and we have, but we often don't realize that's
Speaker 5: what we're doing. And we have traits as in tr
Speaker 5: A I T S. I feel like I don't say
Speaker 5: that word. Probably we have traits behavioral traits that we
Speaker 5: we don't even know we want this, but we need
Speaker 5: other people to see us in a certain way. So
Speaker 5: on exercise that I get women to do at my
Speaker 5: women's health weekends, I'll say, how do you need other
Speaker 5: people to see you? And I get people to write
Speaker 5: it down. And really common responses I've had over the
Speaker 5: years are things like I need people to see me
Speaker 5: as kind, thoughtful, selfless, or for other women, it's I
Speaker 5: need people to see me as competent, hard working, efficient, reliable,
Speaker 5: And it doesn't it doesn't matter what the words are.
Speaker 5: You just need to know what your words are. So
Speaker 5: then the next time you're stressed, pause and consider, am
Speaker 5: I perceiving someone is seeing me in the opposite way
Speaker 5: to how I've identified I need to be seen? And
Speaker 5: I have found over the years, because most of the
Speaker 5: time the answer will be yes, you'll be silently worried
Speaker 5: that someone is thinking that you are fill in the blank.
Speaker 5: And I have found over the years that quite often
Speaker 5: when we have challenges with our digestive system, and we
Speaker 5: definitely have food intolerances, like it's very clear from the
Speaker 5: symptoms that you know, food X, Y, and Z is
Speaker 5: a real problem for the gut. Sometimes when that doesn't
Speaker 5: feel like it's completely solved the problem, sometimes there might
Speaker 5: be another food. But I feel like what I've just
Speaker 5: said about stress is not examined enough because it's hard work,
Speaker 5: it's confronting work, but it's absolutely breathtakingly mind blowingly spectacular
Speaker 5: when you get some insights to drop in yourself about
Speaker 5: what's kind of been driving you to operate in a
Speaker 5: certain way and the gut here I have seen from
Speaker 5: that inner work is like goosebumps. I've tears in my
Speaker 5: eyes right now. It's Yeah, it's been one of the
Speaker 5: best privileges of my life as a nutritional biochemistry.
Speaker 1: I remember years ago when I was a law grad
Speaker 1: and you know, I was doing all the stuff on
Speaker 1: the side and doing my side hustle, and I was
Speaker 1: doing my plot, and I was going to gym every day,
Speaker 1: and I was catching the bus and I was seeing
Speaker 1: the snatch path because I was having mad gut issues.
Speaker 1: And we did a food intolerance test and I remember
Speaker 1: it came up that I was intolerant to every single
Speaker 1: food that I had eaten and like the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. So you know what she tested me for.
Speaker 1: And that's what a lightbulb moment happened. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the food. I think it's what's happening,
Speaker 1: you know, internally, And one hundred percent it had to
Speaker 1: do with the stressful life that I was leading and
Speaker 1: like everything, you know, I was trying to do it once.
Speaker 1: So I love that you answer that question like that.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm so glad. I've just seen it make a
Speaker 5: difference for people. Yeah, sometimes the food needs twaking, but
Speaker 5: we've got to look at Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: Well let's go, because I really I love like some
Speaker 1: of your work. That kind of first got me interested
Speaker 1: with you was when you were talking about rushing women syndrome,
Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure I read a whole book on that.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I wrote, yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, is this the right book?
Speaker 1: And this was literally at that period where I was
Speaker 1: like quite stressed, and my hormones were out a whack,
Speaker 1: my gestion was off, and all the things were happening,
Speaker 1: And I think this whole it's so interesting because I
Speaker 1: feel like, especially these days, like you know most you know,
Speaker 1: most women, and like my community who's listening, they're doing
Speaker 1: all the things me personally, I have a one year old.
Speaker 1: I'm also I also work five days a week. I
Speaker 1: have all the things, I wear, all the hats, and
Speaker 1: we're like, no, we're here, We're going to do it all.
Speaker 1: But I do wonder sometimes you know, at what you know,
Speaker 1: at what consideration of our health is this all you know,
Speaker 1: putting pressure on I guess. So I would love for
Speaker 1: you to explain to my community what is rushing when
Speaker 1: women's syndrome and how we can really prioritize and manage
Speaker 1: our health. Why we are trying to do it all
Speaker 1: because you know, the solution for me is not to
Speaker 1: do less, but to manage. So I love your insight
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Gorgeous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So rushing women syndrome, it's important to acknowledge it's
Speaker 5: not a medical condition.
Speaker 2: It was just literally the name I gave my book.
Speaker 1: So and I've got it.
Speaker 5: I've had lots of women say to me over the years, Oliba.
Speaker 5: I bought that book six years ago and it's still
Speaker 5: beside my bed. I haven't had time to read it.
Speaker 5: A lot of women have said that to me anyway.
Speaker 5: So I wrote it based on my clinical experience, based
Speaker 5: on observations with women's health and the challenges they were facing,
Speaker 5: with stress at the heart of it. And obviously since
Speaker 5: twenty eleven when I wrote the book, everything's only become
Speaker 5: more intense. Things have become easier, people feel like there
Speaker 5: are even more demands on their time. So I wrote
Speaker 5: that book to help people understand what I refer to
Speaker 5: as sympathetic nervous system dominance, where we go into the
Speaker 5: fight or flight response and it's as if we get
Speaker 5: stuck there and we can't get out of it.
Speaker 2: So the fight or.
Speaker 5: Flight response, so it's the sympathetic nervous system that gets activated,
Speaker 5: and the opposite arm of that is called the parasympathetic
Speaker 5: nervous system, which is the calm rest, digest reproduce, calming
Speaker 5: arm of the nervous system.
Speaker 2: So I call that one the green zone.
Speaker 5: And the challenge for rushing women is that they get
Speaker 5: stuck in the red zone in the fight or flight
Speaker 5: response and they find it really difficult to get into
Speaker 5: the green zone. And when we always look at red
Speaker 5: zone with that stress response switched on, obviously you know
Speaker 5: it disrupts not just digestion like we've just talked about,
Speaker 5: but it can disrupt things like ovulation because the body
Speaker 5: links ovulation to potentially conception.
Speaker 2: And if you're if you're so.
Speaker 5: The hypothalamus, the region in the brain I talked about
Speaker 5: earlier about the thyroid. One of its jobs is to
Speaker 5: ask the question twenty four seven am I safe? And
Speaker 5: so it does that by looking out into your environment,
Speaker 5: checking for the availability of food, water, what's the temperature,
Speaker 5: all of that, But it also looks into your blood
Speaker 5: and when it sees high circulating levels of adrenaline, the
Speaker 5: only thing that means is our life's in danger. So
Speaker 5: then the hypothalamus says to the petuitry, Hey, our life's
Speaker 5: in danger. You better tell the adrenal glands. So the
Speaker 5: petuitary then says to the adrenals, life's in danger. So
Speaker 5: the adrenals then start to churn out adrenaline and cortisol.
Speaker 2: So when the.
Speaker 5: Hypothalamus sees all of the threats to our life because
Speaker 5: of the high circulating stress hormones, just because we've got
Speaker 5: six hundred unopened emails and we're running late for fifty
Speaker 5: meetings today, it doesn't understand that that's what's happening. It
Speaker 5: literally thinks our lives in danger, and it doesn't want
Speaker 5: you to bring a baby into a world where it
Speaker 5: thinks you're not safe. Now, if you only go into
Speaker 5: that stressed out state, I don't know how many times,
Speaker 5: but you know, occasionally, no problem. But the challenge for
Speaker 5: rushing women is that they were living in that place
Speaker 5: all the time. So then not only does fertility become
Speaker 5: a challenge or can doesn't have to, but it can
Speaker 5: become a challenge when this is going on. You can
Speaker 5: see that if ovulation is disrupted. We talked about it earlier.
Speaker 5: You then are way more at risk for loads of
Speaker 5: anxious feelings, allows a depressed mood, retention of fluid, thyroid problem,
Speaker 5: and then all of the consequences of that. You know,
Speaker 5: your clothes get tight, your bowels become irregular, you can
Speaker 5: have a tendency to constipation, dry skin, dry hair, brittle nails,
Speaker 5: you know, on and on it goes, not to mention
Speaker 5: obviously lowsy energy.
Speaker 2: So rushing woman syndrome describe.
Speaker 5: The effects of always being in a hurry through that
Speaker 5: drive from all of those stress hormones. So what are
Speaker 5: all the systems that that disrupts? And then of course
Speaker 5: what can we do about it? And it was a
Speaker 5: big part of why. And I love that you said
Speaker 5: doing less wasn't your solution because that's not who you are,
Speaker 5: and it's important for us to be who we are.
Speaker 5: But it's recognizing that what is actually and it's what
Speaker 5: I touched on again earlier, it's recognizing what leads us there.
Speaker 5: So are we rushing around because it's fulfilling to us?
Speaker 5: Or are we rushing around so that our mother or
Speaker 5: our father thinks that we're really like a really hard worker,
Speaker 5: or so that our husband thinks that or our partner
Speaker 5: thinks that. You know, we've got to look at what's
Speaker 5: driving us, because when we do things from a genuine
Speaker 5: place of caring or inspiration, it's really energizing. But when
Speaker 5: we do things out of duty, it's really depleting. So
Speaker 5: I get women is a part where it's really coming from,
Speaker 5: and so that they can live more in alignment with
Speaker 5: who they really are, that on its own can make
Speaker 5: a massive difference.
Speaker 1: You've kind of just described my whole journey. You know,
Speaker 1: it's really been my journey of figuring out, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is the actual driver and basis for this side of
Speaker 1: me who just wants to be busy all the time,
Speaker 1: and then you know, then it having such detrimental things
Speaker 1: for my health and really trying to find that beautiful
Speaker 1: balance where I'm doing things I love and you know,
Speaker 1: things that feel very authentic and they're me and they're
Speaker 1: true to me, but also prioritizing my health and making
Speaker 1: sure I am having a balanced approach because I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: very much, all the symptoms that you have, you know,
Speaker 1: my thyroid, you know, weight gain or weight loss and
Speaker 1: hefeli out and all those things like I have gone
Speaker 1: through and it's when I kind of come back to myself,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hang on, I need to get back to
Speaker 1: the basics. I need to figure out what's actually going
Speaker 1: on here. Just has been yeah, very very important. So
Speaker 1: it's it's funny how you know much of what we're
Speaker 1: even talking about this whole episode is everything correlates together,
Speaker 1: and when something is disrupted, it's like it affects everything else.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love that we're kind of doing a
Speaker 1: full circle.
Speaker 5: Do you know the other thing that I would love
Speaker 5: to add to that is it's live. We have a
Speaker 5: you know, a lot you hear a lot of people
Speaker 5: talk and they'll say, oh, that happened to me, and
Speaker 5: then that happened to me. But I like to pose
Speaker 5: the question to people, and I feel that your evidence
Speaker 5: of this.
Speaker 2: Georgie, through the work that you're doing well.
Speaker 5: I like to pose the question to people and say,
Speaker 5: what if it was all for you? So what if
Speaker 5: all the challenges, what if the thought, you know, all
Speaker 5: the things you've just described, what if it was all
Speaker 5: happening for you? Because and I've got goosebumps right now
Speaker 5: saying that you probably wouldn't be sitting here with this
Speaker 5: extraordinary podcast if and this extraordinary community.
Speaker 2: Had you not been through that.
Speaker 5: So there are even though I'm not denying for a second,
Speaker 5: it's not challenging, it's not frustrating. There's not times when
Speaker 5: it's confusing or devastating or.
Speaker 2: Really really hard.
Speaker 5: But then there's also these really beautiful benefits. So it's
Speaker 5: sort of like if we shift out of the belief
Speaker 5: that life happens to us, to life happens for us,
Speaker 5: and you can sort of start see that life happens
Speaker 5: through us, which is I feel like this little circle
Speaker 5: conversation is kind of evidence of that. And then you
Speaker 5: start showing up for life. So then it's when you
Speaker 5: wake up up in the morning instead of oh my goodness,
Speaker 5: I have this and this and this and this to do,
Speaker 5: even though that will still happen. Sometimes there's less of that.
Speaker 2: It's a lot more.
Speaker 5: This just blows my mind that I get to do this,
Speaker 5: and it just blows my mind that through challenges I've faced,
Speaker 5: I'm now sharing information with people that support them, uplift them,
Speaker 5: give them ideas about roads to God. And so you
Speaker 5: see the extraordinary ripple effect. And I'm obsessed with that.
Speaker 5: So I just had to say that because I take
Speaker 5: my hat off to you for sharing your journey and
Speaker 5: you know what you've experienced and then also how you've
Speaker 5: helped yourself.
Speaker 2: It's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Libby, I literally think we're soul sisters
Speaker 1: because literally two weeks ago, I got a tattoo that
Speaker 1: says life happens for me. What Because every time I'm
Speaker 1: going through a challenge or exactly what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nope, even though it looks bleak right now
Speaker 1: and it's like I can't I can't see it. I
Speaker 1: know this is going to be something that a challenge
Speaker 1: I can share with my community that is going to
Speaker 1: then help someone else or I am So you know,
Speaker 1: that is such a core belief of mine, of life
Speaker 1: happens for me. I've literally got it tattooed on my arm.
Speaker 1: So I love I love that you said that because
Speaker 1: that is truly like with my health journey and everything
Speaker 1: I've been on, Like it's like I very much, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: this is all happening, and just yeah, in day to
Speaker 1: day it's such a huge thing to get me through
Speaker 1: the hard times. And you know when things aren't going
Speaker 1: how you think they should, and just going I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna let this stress me. It's a huge de stressor
Speaker 1: and letting the weight off my shoulders because I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's fine. Life happens for me. This is obviously happening
Speaker 1: for reason, and it's so fine, and I can like
Speaker 1: wear a smile and be like it's fine.
Speaker 2: That is so special as well. I'm very born away.
Speaker 2: That's really special.
Speaker 1: It's so cool that you went down there. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've got a tattoo.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get to a couple of kind of just
Speaker 1: a quick fire questions about food. So I thought these
Speaker 1: were really really great and I'm actually just really interested
Speaker 1: to hear what you say. So do you think dairy
Speaker 1: is bad for us? Ah?
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a lot of people's friends, and
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are unaware of that.
Speaker 5: So obviously it's you know, it's designed to raise a
Speaker 5: baby cow, a baby calf to be an adult cow.
Speaker 5: And so the rate of growth that a baby calf
Speaker 5: undergoes to become an adult in about a year, they
Speaker 5: go from about forty kilograms to about seven hundred kilograms.
Speaker 5: So it's really fast rate of growth, and that's not
Speaker 5: because of anything the farmers do to the milk. It's
Speaker 5: just because of the natural growth hormones present, because ma
Speaker 5: ma cow thinks that that's what her baby needs. So
Speaker 5: I think a big difference between you know, giving that
Speaker 5: to humans who we don't grow at those rates. You know,
Speaker 5: we might be three kilograms when we're born and seventy
Speaker 5: kilograms when we're an adult. It's a really slow rate
Speaker 5: of growth. So that's my biggest concern with it. I
Speaker 5: do think too that for some people with gut problems,
Speaker 5: that's behind them. And I think a lot of people
Speaker 5: think it's lactose and in my clinical experience for a
Speaker 5: lot of people, it's the caseine in the dairy foods,
Speaker 5: so one of the proteins in it. I've seen that
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Do you think it's bad if we drink coffee
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, Yeah, it can.
Speaker 5: Be for some people, can really disrupt their blood gluecose levels.
Speaker 5: So I'm never going to say, I'm never going to
Speaker 5: say don't do it. And I you know, if you
Speaker 5: look at Italian the way Italians live, they do it
Speaker 5: and they don't have big levels of insulin resistance, whereas
Speaker 5: I do worry though, like down Under with the way
Speaker 5: that a lot of people eat down under that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: it can be a real disruptor to blood glucose and
Speaker 5: set you up to crave sugar later in the morning.
Speaker 5: So yeah, in saying all of that, though, I do
Speaker 5: know some people who do it and love it, relish it,
Speaker 5: feel fabulous doing it. It's not a big disruptive for them.
Speaker 5: So it's more about noticing how it leads you to feel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, like listening to your own body. Going back
Speaker 1: to the milk question, so you know people are moving
Speaker 1: away from cow's milk, Is there a specific vigan or
Speaker 1: like a nut milk that you prefer or go for,
Speaker 1: because I know some, like a lot of like alternative
Speaker 1: milks can be so processed, so I'd love to hear
Speaker 1: your opinion on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they are, they all of them are processed.
Speaker 5: Rice milk is probably the least process because it's just
Speaker 5: taken rice boiled it with water strained it. They add
Speaker 5: calcium carbonate to it and not much else. So rice
Speaker 5: milk is Yes, it's processed, but it's not as processed
Speaker 5: as some of the other milks. It's also very low
Speaker 5: reactivity for people with allergies and food sensitivities, so that
Speaker 5: can be a choice that Yeah, I think a lot
Speaker 5: of people have forgotten about one of my concerns with
Speaker 5: you know, the use of a lot of the nut milks.
Speaker 5: You know, people have kind of gone crazy for almonds,
Speaker 5: and they might eat almonds, you know, raw almonds.
Speaker 2: They might have almond butter.
Speaker 5: Then they have a coffee with almond milk and it's
Speaker 5: just almoned almond almond. And even though almonds themselves have
Speaker 5: got lots of nutrients in them like vitamin E, magnesium, calcium,
Speaker 5: you know, they're really nutrient dense. When you eat a
Speaker 5: handful of almonds, they do also contain some Omega six
Speaker 5: fatty acids that can promote inflammation. So don't be scared about,
Speaker 5: you know, eating a handful of them. But if you're
Speaker 5: doing almond everything in your life, it can be too
Speaker 5: much a Mega six fat.
Speaker 1: So like, do you have any milks with your coffee
Speaker 1: or you just go black black or you don't have coffee.
Speaker 5: No, I have coffee sometimes black coffee. Rice milk is
Speaker 5: also really yummy in coffee.
Speaker 1: Okay, noted, that's amazing. Thank you. Yeah, because I was
Speaker 1: on the oat milk train and then someone told me
Speaker 1: how processed it was, and I was like, fuck, so
Speaker 1: I stopped the I stopped the oat milk. So I
Speaker 1: just I think it's so interesting because you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so healthy, I'm eating oat milk. But it's like, oh, wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think too.
Speaker 5: There's yeah, and some people digest cow's milk without a problem.
Speaker 5: But I think it's yeah, it's working out what suits you,
Speaker 5: but also having you know, recognition that, yeah, that all
Speaker 5: of those milk alternatives are pretty highly processed.
Speaker 1: Good to know. I might start doing black coffee or
Speaker 1: like a long black night shades. Watch your opinion on these,
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people avoid them.
Speaker 5: So with night shades, potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants, et cetera. So
Speaker 5: some people avoid them. They originally were became a became
Speaker 5: a thing to avoid because people had joint pain, and
Speaker 5: then others noticed they might have gut problems from them.
Speaker 5: But I always encourage people to explore how they go
Speaker 5: with them. So for some people it might just be
Speaker 5: plants and tomatoes that cause bloating and they might be fine.
Speaker 5: For example, with potatoes, so I try really hard to
Speaker 5: not sort of go blanket with you know, big statements
Speaker 5: when people go low FODMAT. For example, I want to
Speaker 5: know which one of the fermentables in the food, which
Speaker 5: one of the FODMAPs is the problem for the person,
Speaker 5: or it might be a number of them over the
Speaker 5: You know, a low podmap way of eating is super
Speaker 5: super restrictive, and you're not really supposed to do it
Speaker 5: for more than four to six weeks, and ideally under
Speaker 5: the supervision of an experienced nutrition professional, because you can
Speaker 5: become deficient in a lot of nutrients when you stick
Speaker 5: to low FODMAP. So I like to I always encourage
Speaker 5: people to do the trial reintroductions to see how they
Speaker 5: go with those foods night Shade family included, to see
Speaker 5: how you respond to the individual foods. So with low
Speaker 5: fodmap people sometimes it's literally just onion, garlic and apples,
Speaker 5: and if you avoid those, tummy's okay. Whereas you know,
Speaker 5: and that's not that restrictive compared to a true proper
Speaker 5: low fat way of eating. So if people are choosing
Speaker 5: not to have night shades, I want to know why
Speaker 5: and if you know, and there might be a really
Speaker 5: valid reason or they might just think that all night
Speaker 5: shades affect their gut badly.
Speaker 2: I'll usually ask them to get them to try the foods.
Speaker 1: And talking of gut health, I know this is like
Speaker 1: you know this. I'm sure you could do a whole
Speaker 1: podcast on this, but just really quickly, because gut health
Speaker 1: is just you know, something I'm focusing on. Is there
Speaker 1: any sort of foods that you go for for gut
Speaker 1: health or any foods that you avoid for gut health.
Speaker 5: Sugar is the biggest disruptor to gut health on the planet.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so there's actually when we eat sugar, and
Speaker 5: some massive reason I've made a course about this, When
Speaker 5: we eat refined sugar, it actually can kill a gut
Speaker 5: bacteria that helps to regulate a substance that drives or
Speaker 5: that impacts significantly our fat absorption and utilization. And then
Speaker 5: when we go off sugar and we continue to eat fat,
Speaker 5: that little bacteria can grow back and regulate this substance
Speaker 5: that has such a massive impact on our fat metabolism
Speaker 5: and on fat absorption and fat utilization in the body.
Speaker 5: So sugar is one of the biggest disruptors to the
Speaker 5: gut microbiome. Preservatives are as well, and it makes sense
Speaker 5: when you think about it. So preservatives are only added
Speaker 5: to process food, not for human health benefits. They're just
Speaker 5: there to make them sit on the shelf for longer
Speaker 5: and the hope someone buys them before they go off.
Speaker 5: And the way preservatives work is they stop bacterial growth.
Speaker 5: But we have between half a kilo and four kilos
Speaker 5: of bacteria living in our large intestine that do so
Speaker 5: much good stuff for us, help regulate our immune response, help.
Speaker 2: To determine what calor is a worth. They have the
Speaker 2: biggest effect.
Speaker 5: And the preservatives in food, we now understand they affect
Speaker 5: our gut microbiome in a really detrimental way. So just
Speaker 5: the preservatives you get, you know, just from homus or
Speaker 5: some kind of dip you buy in the supermarket, or
Speaker 5: dried fruit that's got the sulfur preservative on it. Wine,
Speaker 5: they're all really common sources of preservatives, and ideally we
Speaker 5: want to be preservative free so that we look after
Speaker 5: our gut microbiome.
Speaker 2: Especially.
Speaker 1: Wow, I never heard like someone talk about that, like
Speaker 1: preservatives like that. That's so interesting. Now you've got rethinking
Speaker 1: everything my fracture. I would love to talk more about
Speaker 1: your sugar Core. So tell us more about like what's
Speaker 1: in it and why you wanted to create it.
Speaker 5: Oh thanks, Georgie, that's so kind. So it's a six
Speaker 5: week online course. It's called Shake Off Sugar, and I
Speaker 5: did it because over all the years I've worked with people,
Speaker 5: I feel that sugar is the thing they struggle to
Speaker 5: to only have in moderation or to not have it all.
Speaker 5: People can give up all sorts of other things, but sugar.
Speaker 5: People will say they feel addicted to it. And I
Speaker 5: wanted people to understand that I do and help people
Speaker 5: to get off it because it's driving so many health problems,
Speaker 5: everything from hormone imbalances to insulin resistance, you know, the
Speaker 5: you know problems with our brain like brain fog, but
Speaker 5: also memory, you know, problems with memory. It's really significant
Speaker 5: what it's doing to us, and we're massively over consuming it.
Speaker 5: So it's a six week course. You get a daily
Speaker 5: video from me with education. There's a beautiful supportive community
Speaker 5: forum in there as well. There's a food matrix. We
Speaker 5: can drag and drop and plan all your meals for
Speaker 5: the week if you want to. And there's three stages
Speaker 5: to it. The first stage is shake it off where
Speaker 5: we get where we get rid of it. And then
Speaker 5: the next stage is called shift, where we shift the
Speaker 5: taste buds. And I also help people to understand what's
Speaker 5: driving their emotional connection to sugar, because.
Speaker 2: That's a big deal for a lot of them. And
Speaker 2: then the final stage, Yeah.
Speaker 5: The final stage is substitute, where you know, what am
Speaker 5: I going to do going forward? So it's it's let's
Speaker 5: move into the future with a lot less sugar, all
Speaker 5: continuing to be sugar free.
Speaker 2: Whatever's going to work for the person.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited to help people literally shake it off
Speaker 5: because we need to.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's incredible. I feel like I might
Speaker 1: do it. That sounds especially everything you've been saying about,
Speaker 1: you know, it being such a driver that disrupts so
Speaker 1: many things in our bodies, like I got health and
Speaker 1: our hormones, and if we can just like get the
Speaker 1: handle of that, that would then, you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: have like this beautiful ripple effect in everything in our health.
Speaker 5: That said so beautifully, that's exactly what happens. And it
Speaker 5: blows my mind when I see that in action.
Speaker 2: I love it so much.
Speaker 1: That is incredible. So when does it start? How can
Speaker 1: people get a handle of it. How can I find it?
Speaker 2: February and it's at doctor Libby dot com.
Speaker 1: Amazing. And then are you running it after that or
Speaker 1: is it only for that six weeks?
Speaker 5: No, it's it'll be run five times each year, so
Speaker 5: you can go to the website to doctor Libby dot
Speaker 5: com and see when the next intake is after that.
Speaker 1: Okay, amazing. And before we go, Libby, I just want
Speaker 1: to say a big thank you for you know, chatting
Speaker 1: to us and telling us all your health insights. It's
Speaker 1: it's been such a great time and I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just clocking everything. I would love to end this
Speaker 1: interview just with a couple of questions. We ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is the best advice you have ever received?
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a lovely question. To let yourself have what
Speaker 5: you already have. And what I mean by that is
Speaker 5: we spend a lot of time focused on things that
Speaker 5: are missing or things that are wrong. And when you
Speaker 5: talk to people who are dying and you ask and
Speaker 5: what they're going to miss, they say the simplest things,
Speaker 5: the night sky or their partner space or the smell
Speaker 5: of freshly cut lemon. And we have all of that
Speaker 5: right now. So I think we need to let ourselves
Speaker 5: have what we already have because even when things are
Speaker 5: genuinely tough or challenging or painful, there is also still
Speaker 5: a huge amount of beauty that coexists with that. It's
Speaker 5: just that when things are tough, we don't focus on
Speaker 5: those things. So let yourself have what you already have,
Speaker 5: because I think that's what joy is all about, and
Speaker 5: joy gives us a irreplaceable depth of energy.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can just see a tears face across from me,
Speaker 1: and we both want to griy. They're so sweet. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing that, and honestly and
Speaker 1: so and lastly, something that we ask all our guests
Speaker 1: too is what is one of your core beliefs that
Speaker 1: you hold close to your heart? So just for an example,
Speaker 1: if you don't know what car beliefs are, much like
Speaker 1: my tattoo of life happens for me, which I now
Speaker 1: know is one of yours too, But what's another beautiful
Speaker 1: core belief that you have?
Speaker 2: Love is all there is?
Speaker 1: Oh, Libby, we love you. It was so beautiful, loved.
Speaker 2: I love this chat.
Speaker 5: I've loved the questions and you've been incredibly generous letting
Speaker 5: me rab it on with all my answers.
Speaker 2: But thank you so much, Georgie.
Speaker 1: This has been so so insightful and such a joy.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Guys. Make sure you go check
Speaker 1: out Doctor Libby. We'll put all the links and everything
Speaker 1: out in the description. Make sure you check out that
Speaker 1: sugar course. And yeah, just thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your time. We really do appreciate it.
Speaker 5: I loved being here with you. Thank you so much, Georgie.
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