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Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this

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Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay

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Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend

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Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

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Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the

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Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which

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Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix

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Speaker 1: soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think

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Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your

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Speaker 1: besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are

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Speaker 1: in your journey, We're here to help you be curious,

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Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're

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Speaker 1: ready to get into the driver's seat of your own

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Speaker 1: in the right place. Hey everybody, and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the RNC potty. Oh my god, today do we have

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Speaker 1: an episode for you?

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 1: Me and it here are both obsessed with Doctor Libby.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Libby is a nutritional biochemist. She is a thirteen

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Speaker 1: time best selling author and international acclaimed speaker. We are

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Speaker 1: so grateful to have her on the potty. This interview

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Speaker 1: was done a little bit differently. We thought it would

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Speaker 1: but with doctor Libby. So basically we just quick fired

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Speaker 1: all your health questions. We put them in the Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Of course, got you guys to get involved. If you're

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Speaker 1: my god, she is a wealth of knowledge, isn't she

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Speaker 1: just like amazing And I love she did speak about

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Speaker 3: And she says she does it from three pillars, which

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so digestible and a big thing I noticed And

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Speaker 1: is she's a little bit woo woo, yes, so good.

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Speaker 1: Like she broad in some things about you know, you

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Speaker 1: guys will hear that, like, you know, I've got health

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Speaker 1: and it was so beautiful and I think it's also

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Speaker 1: So today we're chatting about We asked her a whole

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Speaker 3: Mine too. I love how she was talking about sugar

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Speaker 3: She's given us a discount code so you can use

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Speaker 3: Georgie ten at checkout for ten percent off the next

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Speaker 3: the course and all of that in show notes. But honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'll put his little link in the show notes Jared.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Libby. Welcome to the Rights and Conquer Podcasts.

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Speaker 5: they're the main food sources of zinc.

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Speaker 1: Okay, amazing, I'll be supplementing I do love oysters, so

437
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Speaker 1: and I would love to chat to you. So this

438
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Speaker 1: is actually just a selfish question. I'm just chucking in

439
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: right now, going a bit rogue. But going off that question,

440
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Speaker 1: you did you know say how important it was for

441
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Speaker 1: your thyroid? And I am someone who has an underactive thyroid.

442
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: What you know some main things someone with a thyroid

443
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: condition can be doing to like I do take you know,

444
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: a medication, but just to be helping my thyroid and

445
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: just being conscious of it. What sort of things can

446
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: we be doing?

447
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 5: So our thyroid is it's most extraordinary gland, but it

448
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 5: doesn't act alone. So the beginning of the signaling to

449
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 5: the thyroid, it actually comes from a region in the

450
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Speaker 5: brain called the hypothalamus, and the hypothalamus makes a hormone

451
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 5: and it calls out to the petuatory gland, which is

452
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Speaker 5: also in the brain, and the petutory makes a hormone

453
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Speaker 5: that probably a lot of people in your community will

454
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Speaker 5: be familiar with. The petuittary hormone that talks to the

455
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 5: thyroid is called TSH thyroid stimulating hormone, and the TSH

456
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 5: says to the thyroid, you need to make your hormones

457
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: now and Obviously, the hormones the thyroid make a T

458
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 5: four and T three, But for T four, which is

459
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 5: the inactive thyroid hormone which doesn't have an effect on metabolism,

460
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 5: for example, T three is the active one that affects

461
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 5: metabolism and helps to regulate temperature. For T four to

462
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 5: be converted into T three in a successful way, there's

463
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: a whole host of nutrients that are needed, so iodine, selenium, iron,

464
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 5: and zinc. There are those nutrients again, so we need

465
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 5: those nutrients really good thyroid function, ideally getting them from food.

466
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Speaker 5: If we're not getting enough from food, then you're supplementing.

467
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Speaker 5: The other thing we need for healthy thyroid function ideally

468
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Speaker 5: is regular ovulation, because as I said, progesterone is soporative

469
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Speaker 5: of healthy thyroid function. The thyroid loves progesterone and it

470
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Speaker 5: doesn't love an excessive amount of estrogen. Which is one

471
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Speaker 5: of the most common hormonal imbalances I've seen in my

472
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Speaker 5: working life is that low progesterone or no progesterone coupled

473
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Speaker 5: with excess estrogen, so that can disrupt thyroid function.

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Speaker 2: Infections can as well.

475
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Speaker 5: So over the years, I've met lots of people and

476
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Speaker 5: they've had things like glandular fever, and some people when

477
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Speaker 5: they have a virus, any virus really, but I'll use

478
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Speaker 5: glandular fever for the example, which is epstein bar virus.

479
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Speaker 2: Some people have that and they don't even know they've

480
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Speaker 2: had it.

481
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Speaker 5: Other people have glandula free and they go to bed

482
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 5: for three months and they'll say to someone like me,

483
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Speaker 5: I have never felt the same since I have been fatigued.

484
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: Ever since I had that.

485
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Speaker 5: So a virus can actually long term effect something like

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Speaker 5: thyroid function. And the reason I have a phrase my work,

487
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Speaker 5: which is the road in is.

488
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Speaker 2: The road out.

489
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Speaker 5: So whatever created the dysfunction, I want to work out

490
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Speaker 5: what that is because I want to treat that thing.

491
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Speaker 5: Because like, for example, if someone's thyroid is towards the

492
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Speaker 5: underactive end of the spectrum and it's let's say it's

493
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Speaker 5: because of iodine deficiency. If I give that person some iodine,

494
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 5: their thyroid function will improve. But if the thyroid isn't

495
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 5: working properly because of low progesterone excess estrogen, then no

496
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 5: amount of iodine will affect that will improve the thyroid.

497
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 5: Addressing the hormone imbalance will improve the thyroid function. So

498
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Speaker 5: that's why I always want to know what's created the

499
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Speaker 5: dysfunction in the first place and then address that thing. So, yes,

500
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 5: food plays a role in thytooid function, so does immunity,

501
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 5: and of course our hormone balance.

502
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Speaker 1: So interesting. So then the next question I have is

503
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Speaker 1: eating for perimen and poresal and mental poresal women. So

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Speaker 1: we have someone in our community who says she's forty

505
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: six and men a pausal, and you know, she's gone

506
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: from never having any weight issues to now having extra weight.

507
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: She can't shift, and she feels like she has the

508
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: same diet and she's just like, what is happening?

509
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, So such a common scenario, but it doesn't need

510
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 5: to be this way, So one of the a few

511
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 5: changes happen, obviously, but insulin resistance is one of the

512
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 5: biggest things that can start to present itself through this

513
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 5: perimenopausal transition, and it's why some women describe it as

514
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 5: belly fat being really hard to shift. So things they

515
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 5: used to do that address that no longer work, and

516
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: it's nearly always because there's some insulin resistance there, and

517
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 5: it's the actually it's the insulin resistance.

518
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: That needs to be addressed.

519
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: So when you know that there's something gone awry biochemically,

520
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 5: you can then address that thing. Rather than I feel

521
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: like my clothes don't fit me anymore, and people will

522
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 5: just think I need to lose weight. No, No, most

523
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: people my whole working life, I've said, most people will

524
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 5: tell you you've got to lose weight to be healthy.

525
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you it's the opposite.

526
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Speaker 5: You've actually got to be healthy before your body will

527
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 5: let go of. Some people healthier with more body fat.

528
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 5: Some people are too skinny to have good health, so

529
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Speaker 5: they do better with a bit more body fat on them.

530
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: Other people, their health is much better with less body fat.

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Speaker 5: So I focus on health and then the body fat

532
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Speaker 5: just falls into place. Literally, I've seen it with thousands

533
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 5: of people. So through the menopausal the perimenopause will transition

534
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 5: are really scenario is belly fat, and it's nearly always

535
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: because of insulin resistance. Because what happens at perimenopause. The

536
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Speaker 5: first change that happens is we stop ovulating every month.

537
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: And we might ovulate sometimes, but let's say it's only

538
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 5: randomly three times a year, rather than every month like clockwork.

539
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 5: So when we stop ovulating every month, we lose that

540
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 5: lovely surge of progesterone and all of the beautiful benefits,

541
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 5: the calming effects of it, especially, we lose those benefits.

542
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 5: The next stage in perimenopause is fluctuations in estrogen, so

543
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Speaker 5: we can get really big surges in estrogen, and then

544
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: the estrogen can plummet, and those two scenarios lead us

545
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 5: to feel usually or they can lead us to feel

546
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: incredibly uncomfortable. So and then eventually the third stage of perimenopause,

547
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Speaker 5: just before we become postmenopausal, is when there's no progesterone

548
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: and estrogen is very very very low. That's the last age,

549
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Speaker 5: and then the period stop for twelve months, and then

550
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Speaker 5: the twelve month anniversary of your last period is mentopause,

551
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: and then your postmenopausem So you can hear in the

552
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Speaker 5: way I've described that that we go from having really

553
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Speaker 5: robust ovarian production of hormones like estrogen and progesterone to

554
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 5: having none or very little of those hormones. But testosterone

555
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 5: another hormone that women make. Obviously men make more of it,

556
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 5: but we women make it. Testosterone levels through this transition

557
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 5: don't really change, and what occurs at this time in

558
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Speaker 5: our life is a natural testosterone dominance.

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Speaker 2: Now the words I use are really important.

560
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Speaker 5: At this point, it's just a testosterone dominance, not an excess.

561
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Speaker 5: But when we've got insulin resistance in the background, when

562
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 5: that's been biochemically created, because we've been able to and

563
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: I put this in inverted commons, we've been able to

564
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 5: get away with a bit of lausey eating, it can

565
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: start to catch up with you at this time because

566
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Speaker 5: that insulin resistance actually can push testosterone high, and so

567
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 5: then you have an excessive testosterone, and that excessive testosterone

568
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 5: actually makes insulin resistance worse.

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Speaker 2: So women will notice.

570
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Speaker 5: That they grow hair on their face, their head, on

571
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: their hair starts to thin and fall out. They're really

572
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 5: common scenarios. You might notice skin tags. And one of

573
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 5: the biggest things that set us up for that, Georgie,

574
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: is way too much sugar across our whole life, and

575
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: we don't even realize how much we're having. We're currently

576
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 5: told it's okay, and I question this, but we're currently

577
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 5: told it's okay to have six tea spoons a day.

578
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 5: But on average down under at the moment, we have

579
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 5: thirty seven teaspoons of sugar per day.

580
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: Just mostly from processed foods, so it's way too much.

581
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: And because of that, it leads to people to have

582
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: these constant insulin responses all day, every day, year after year,

583
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: decade after decade, and it does set us up for

584
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 5: insulin resistance, which is one of the biggest challenges. For

585
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 5: what this lady is actually describing, that's part of what

586
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 5: needs to be addressed, which is coming back and eating whole,

587
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: real foods and unfortunately shoving those shoving those process foods aside.

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00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: This is kind of going off, you know, a bit

589
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Speaker 1: off topic, but it's really interesting. Just this morning, I

590
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: have done, you know, a bit of a shift where

591
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Speaker 1: I've just included a lot more whole foods.

592
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 3: I have.

593
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Speaker 1: I'm on a bit of a mission at the moment

594
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Speaker 1: just for my gut health to you know, eat a

595
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: variety of plants and seeds and fruit and veg. So

596
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: it's made me be a bit more adventurous and including

597
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: a lot more whole foods while also you know, reducing

598
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: my sugar. And it's interesting because I am about thirteen

599
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: months postpartum and I was just telling my husband this

600
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Speaker 1: morning because I got my period and I like, I

601
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: kind of didn't even know it was coming. I didn't

602
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: really get PMS signals and you know, I didn't get

603
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 1: any cramps or anything. And I said to him this morning,

604
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, my little health kick is actually

605
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: working quite well, because a huge signed for me if

606
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm you know, hashed, you know, in that healthy range,

607
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: is my period isn't you know, causing me grief. And

608
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: it's really nice because you know, it's not like physically

609
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: I have seen to you know, too much change or

610
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Speaker 1: anything like that, and it's not that that health kicker

611
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: was around that. But it's really nice to like notice

612
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: these other things and being like, oh, yeah, like my

613
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: period actually hasn't bothered me this month, or it's not painful,

614
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: and it's not you know, I haven't got cloths and

615
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: all these things that I'm like, oh, you know, eating

616
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: whole foods. It's so simple, but just like switching the

617
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: not like less process to more whole foods. It's like

618
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: so simple. But I just thought that was like a

619
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: great aha moment for me this morning.

620
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 5: I'm so excited for you and it's doesn't it just

621
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 5: encourage you to want to keep going and to continue

622
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 5: to nourish your body and the body doesn't have a voice,

623
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 5: but it gives us feedback about our choices all the time.

624
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 5: And when it gives us, you know, things that we

625
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: struggle with or that might frustrate us or make us sad,

626
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 5: it's feedback asking us to eat or drink or move

627
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 5: or think or breathe or believe or perceive in a

628
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 5: new way.

629
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Speaker 2: And sometimes it's a number of those areas.

630
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 5: But when you simply make a shift, and I know

631
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 5: it doesn't feel simple for a lot of people, and

632
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 5: obviously that's part of what I do, is try to

633
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: help it be a lot simpler for people to focus

634
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: on eating more whole, real food. You get all these benefits,

635
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 5: because that's the most amazing barometer, isn't it for you?

636
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 5: Just with those changes you've made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting. And even like this morning, like

638
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: when I got my well it's actually yesterday. When I

639
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: got it, I went, ah, that's so interesting, like the

640
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: whole previous week. I'm usually so bloated and tender, and

641
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: I hold a lot of water. I'm someone who like water.

642
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: Retention is like it happens to me every month, and

643
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: I just noticed oneing and I was like, oh, I

644
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: didn't have water retention. I wasn't really blow like that's

645
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: so interesting, so and then I like clocked it. I

646
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: was like, hmm, that's really cool. So yeah, I'm glad.

647
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: And now you're saying this, I'm like, it makes sense.

648
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: Doesn't it.

649
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: And again, if you stop and think about it, it

650
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Speaker 5: really wasn't that long ago in human history where that

651
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Speaker 5: was all we had available. And then obviously processed food

652
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 5: became available, but you know, it was what you ate

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Speaker 5: at birthday parties, not you know, not that long ago,

654
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Speaker 5: whereas for a lot of people, ultra process foods have

655
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Speaker 5: just become part.

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Speaker 1: Of every day, every day, and it's.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's what we do every day that impacts

658
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Speaker 5: on our health, it's not what we do occasionally.

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Speaker 2: And when people will say to me, oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: what do you.

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Speaker 5: Think about, they'll ask me about a particular food, and

662
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Speaker 5: you know, it'll often be a process food, and I'll say, well,

663
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Speaker 5: for me, there's just no such thing as junk food.

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Speaker 5: There's just junk and there's food, and as a human species,

665
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 5: all we've ever eaten up until the recent past is food.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it just kind of makes sense.

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Speaker 5: It needs to be mostly, not always, but mostly what

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Speaker 5: we in.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's get into some food questions. What is your

670
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Speaker 1: thoughts and feelings on food intolerances.

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Speaker 5: So I think they're fairly common, and I think too,

672
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Speaker 5: it's important to distinguish between a true food allergy and

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Speaker 5: a food intolerance. So a true food allergy is an

674
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Speaker 5: immune mediated response. If you want to get really geeky,

675
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Speaker 5: the immune system makes a little substance called iminoglobulin E

676
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Speaker 5: or it's abbreviated to IgE. So if someone has anaphylaxis

677
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 5: to something like peanuts, that's an IgE mediated immune response,

678
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Speaker 5: and that's a true allergy, whereas food intolerance is The

679
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 5: mechanisms that create them are really varied, but it doesn't

680
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Speaker 5: involve that IgE mechanism that I just mentioned. So people

681
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 5: might get skin responses like rashes, they might get gut symptoms.

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Speaker 5: That's really and whenever someone is experiencing a food intolerance,

683
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Speaker 5: I always would work like a detective until the symptoms

684
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Speaker 5: to the best of my ability, I would work until

685
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Speaker 5: the symptoms were completely resolved. If we'd gone down lots

686
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Speaker 5: of different food roads trying to get someone an outcome.

687
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Speaker 5: I also would sometimes start to bring up stress and

688
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 5: what stress really is for someone because when we're producing adrenaline,

689
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Speaker 5: it diverts the blood supply that's normally really fantastic in

690
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 5: support of our digestive system. When we make adrenaline, it

691
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: diverts the blood supply away from digestion to our periphery,

692
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: to our arms and our legs, because adrenaline says our

693
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Speaker 5: lives in danger, and we need a good blood supply

694
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Speaker 5: and our arms and legs to powers to get out

695
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Speaker 5: of danger. So with that shift in the focus of

696
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Speaker 5: the blood supply, digestion can be compromised. So I find

697
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Speaker 5: that some people and they've got a food intolerance, they

698
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Speaker 5: might get a bit of an improvement, but if it's

699
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Speaker 5: not a complete improvement, I'll start, as I said, to

700
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Speaker 5: talk to them about stress and what actually leads them

701
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Speaker 5: as an individual to make stress hormones. Because I think

702
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Speaker 5: we've got to a point in society where we understand

703
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Speaker 5: that stress is part of our life, but because we

704
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Speaker 5: think that it's just how life is, you feel quite

705
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Speaker 5: powerless to do anything about it. So back in twenty

706
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: nineteen I wrote a book actually called The Invisible Load

707
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 5: to try to change the conversation about stress so that

708
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Speaker 5: people could actually work out what was stressful for them

709
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Speaker 5: as an individual, Like, let's get really clear about this

710
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: and let's see what we can do about it. And

711
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 5: obviously there's very real and genuine stress in the world

712
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 5: right now, and there's very real and genuine stress in

713
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Speaker 5: people's lives, but there's also a huge amount of stress

714
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Speaker 5: we create for ourselves because of how we think. Because

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Speaker 5: if you think about adrenaline, now, we're so fortunate, we're

716
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Speaker 5: relatively safe. You know, we might make adrenaline when a

717
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 5: car drives out in front of us and we have

718
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 5: to slam on our brakes, but otherwise, the things that

719
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Speaker 5: lead us to produce adrenaline block your ears.

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Speaker 2: You won't like this is caffeine.

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Speaker 5: Very sadly, adrenalinefine leads the body to make adrenaline, sorry

722
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: to everyone listening, And I'm not saying don't drink it,

723
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: but we can very easily over consume it anyway.

724
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: So the caffeine leads us to make adrenaline.

725
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Speaker 5: Our perceptions of pressure and urgency lead us to make adrenaline.

726
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: And I put the word perception in there for a reason,

727
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: and that's because, yeah, we forget that we can choose

728
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 5: how we see things. Now, I'm not saying for a

729
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 5: second that there aren't things that aren't urgent.

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Speaker 2: Of course there are.

731
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Speaker 5: If you get a phone call from school that your

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Speaker 5: child's been injured, that's urgent.

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Speaker 2: You want to get there quickly.

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Speaker 5: But what a lot of us do is we make

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Speaker 5: what we get to do each day full of stress

736
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Speaker 5: and pressure and urgency, which sort of feeds into the

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Speaker 5: third and final reason. I think we make adrenaline in

738
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Speaker 5: modern times, and it's because we either conscious or unconsciously

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Speaker 5: worry about what other people think of us. We seek

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Speaker 5: approval and we have, but we often don't realize that's

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Speaker 5: what we're doing. And we have traits as in tr

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Speaker 5: A I T S. I feel like I don't say

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Speaker 5: that word. Probably we have traits behavioral traits that we

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Speaker 5: we don't even know we want this, but we need

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Speaker 5: other people to see us in a certain way. So

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Speaker 5: on exercise that I get women to do at my

747
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 5: women's health weekends, I'll say, how do you need other

748
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Speaker 5: people to see you? And I get people to write

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Speaker 5: it down. And really common responses I've had over the

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Speaker 5: years are things like I need people to see me

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Speaker 5: as kind, thoughtful, selfless, or for other women, it's I

752
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Speaker 5: need people to see me as competent, hard working, efficient, reliable,

753
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Speaker 5: And it doesn't it doesn't matter what the words are.

754
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 5: You just need to know what your words are. So

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Speaker 5: then the next time you're stressed, pause and consider, am

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Speaker 5: I perceiving someone is seeing me in the opposite way

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Speaker 5: to how I've identified I need to be seen? And

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Speaker 5: I have found over the years, because most of the

759
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: time the answer will be yes, you'll be silently worried

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Speaker 5: that someone is thinking that you are fill in the blank.

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Speaker 5: And I have found over the years that quite often

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Speaker 5: when we have challenges with our digestive system, and we

763
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 5: definitely have food intolerances, like it's very clear from the

764
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Speaker 5: symptoms that you know, food X, Y, and Z is

765
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Speaker 5: a real problem for the gut. Sometimes when that doesn't

766
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Speaker 5: feel like it's completely solved the problem, sometimes there might

767
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Speaker 5: be another food. But I feel like what I've just

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Speaker 5: said about stress is not examined enough because it's hard work,

769
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Speaker 5: it's confronting work, but it's absolutely breathtakingly mind blowingly spectacular

770
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Speaker 5: when you get some insights to drop in yourself about

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Speaker 5: what's kind of been driving you to operate in a

772
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: certain way and the gut here I have seen from

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Speaker 5: that inner work is like goosebumps. I've tears in my

774
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Speaker 5: eyes right now. It's Yeah, it's been one of the

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Speaker 5: best privileges of my life as a nutritional biochemistry.

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Speaker 1: I remember years ago when I was a law grad

777
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Speaker 1: and you know, I was doing all the stuff on

778
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Speaker 1: the side and doing my side hustle, and I was

779
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: doing my plot, and I was going to gym every day,

780
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: and I was catching the bus and I was seeing

781
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: the snatch path because I was having mad gut issues.

782
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Speaker 1: And we did a food intolerance test and I remember

783
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Speaker 1: it came up that I was intolerant to every single

784
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Speaker 1: food that I had eaten and like the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. So you know what she tested me for.

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Speaker 1: And that's what a lightbulb moment happened. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's the food. I think it's what's happening,

788
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Speaker 1: you know, internally, And one hundred percent it had to

789
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Speaker 1: do with the stressful life that I was leading and

790
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: like everything, you know, I was trying to do it once.

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Speaker 1: So I love that you answer that question like that.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm so glad. I've just seen it make a

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00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: difference for people. Yeah, sometimes the food needs twaking, but

794
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: we've got to look at Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 1: Well let's go, because I really I love like some

796
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Speaker 1: of your work. That kind of first got me interested

797
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Speaker 1: with you was when you were talking about rushing women syndrome,

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Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure I read a whole book on that.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

801
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Speaker 1: I wrote, yeah, okay, good.

802
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, is this the right book?

803
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Speaker 1: And this was literally at that period where I was

804
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 1: like quite stressed, and my hormones were out a whack,

805
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: my gestion was off, and all the things were happening,

806
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: And I think this whole it's so interesting because I

807
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: feel like, especially these days, like you know most you know,

808
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Speaker 1: most women, and like my community who's listening, they're doing

809
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: all the things me personally, I have a one year old.

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Speaker 1: I'm also I also work five days a week. I

811
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: have all the things, I wear, all the hats, and

812
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: we're like, no, we're here, We're going to do it all.

813
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Speaker 1: But I do wonder sometimes you know, at what you know,

814
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Speaker 1: at what consideration of our health is this all you know,

815
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: putting pressure on I guess. So I would love for

816
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 1: you to explain to my community what is rushing when

817
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: women's syndrome and how we can really prioritize and manage

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Speaker 1: our health. Why we are trying to do it all

819
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Speaker 1: because you know, the solution for me is not to

820
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Speaker 1: do less, but to manage. So I love your insight

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Gorgeous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So rushing women syndrome, it's important to acknowledge it's

824
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Speaker 5: not a medical condition.

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Speaker 2: It was just literally the name I gave my book.

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Speaker 1: So and I've got it.

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Speaker 5: I've had lots of women say to me over the years, Oliba.

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Speaker 5: I bought that book six years ago and it's still

829
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Speaker 5: beside my bed. I haven't had time to read it.

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Speaker 5: A lot of women have said that to me anyway.

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Speaker 5: So I wrote it based on my clinical experience, based

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00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 5: on observations with women's health and the challenges they were facing,

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00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 5: with stress at the heart of it. And obviously since

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Speaker 5: twenty eleven when I wrote the book, everything's only become

835
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 5: more intense. Things have become easier, people feel like there

836
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 5: are even more demands on their time. So I wrote

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Speaker 5: that book to help people understand what I refer to

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Speaker 5: as sympathetic nervous system dominance, where we go into the

839
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Speaker 5: fight or flight response and it's as if we get

840
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 5: stuck there and we can't get out of it.

841
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Speaker 2: So the fight or.

842
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: Flight response, so it's the sympathetic nervous system that gets activated,

843
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 5: and the opposite arm of that is called the parasympathetic

844
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Speaker 5: nervous system, which is the calm rest, digest reproduce, calming

845
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Speaker 5: arm of the nervous system.

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Speaker 2: So I call that one the green zone.

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Speaker 5: And the challenge for rushing women is that they get

848
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 5: stuck in the red zone in the fight or flight

849
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 5: response and they find it really difficult to get into

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Speaker 5: the green zone. And when we always look at red

851
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: zone with that stress response switched on, obviously you know

852
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Speaker 5: it disrupts not just digestion like we've just talked about,

853
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 5: but it can disrupt things like ovulation because the body

854
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 5: links ovulation to potentially conception.

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Speaker 2: And if you're if you're so.

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Speaker 5: The hypothalamus, the region in the brain I talked about

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Speaker 5: earlier about the thyroid. One of its jobs is to

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Speaker 5: ask the question twenty four seven am I safe? And

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00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 5: so it does that by looking out into your environment,

860
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 5: checking for the availability of food, water, what's the temperature,

861
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 5: all of that, But it also looks into your blood

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00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 5: and when it sees high circulating levels of adrenaline, the

863
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 5: only thing that means is our life's in danger. So

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Speaker 5: then the hypothalamus says to the petuitry, Hey, our life's

865
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Speaker 5: in danger. You better tell the adrenal glands. So the

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Speaker 5: petuitary then says to the adrenals, life's in danger. So

867
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 5: the adrenals then start to churn out adrenaline and cortisol.

868
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: So when the.

869
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 5: Hypothalamus sees all of the threats to our life because

870
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 5: of the high circulating stress hormones, just because we've got

871
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 5: six hundred unopened emails and we're running late for fifty

872
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 5: meetings today, it doesn't understand that that's what's happening. It

873
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 5: literally thinks our lives in danger, and it doesn't want

874
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 5: you to bring a baby into a world where it

875
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 5: thinks you're not safe. Now, if you only go into

876
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 5: that stressed out state, I don't know how many times,

877
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 5: but you know, occasionally, no problem. But the challenge for

878
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 5: rushing women is that they were living in that place

879
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 5: all the time. So then not only does fertility become

880
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 5: a challenge or can doesn't have to, but it can

881
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 5: become a challenge when this is going on. You can

882
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 5: see that if ovulation is disrupted. We talked about it earlier.

883
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 5: You then are way more at risk for loads of

884
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 5: anxious feelings, allows a depressed mood, retention of fluid, thyroid problem,

885
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: and then all of the consequences of that. You know,

886
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: your clothes get tight, your bowels become irregular, you can

887
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 5: have a tendency to constipation, dry skin, dry hair, brittle nails,

888
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 5: you know, on and on it goes, not to mention

889
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 5: obviously lowsy energy.

890
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: So rushing woman syndrome describe.

891
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 5: The effects of always being in a hurry through that

892
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 5: drive from all of those stress hormones. So what are

893
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 5: all the systems that that disrupts? And then of course

894
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 5: what can we do about it? And it was a

895
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 5: big part of why. And I love that you said

896
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 5: doing less wasn't your solution because that's not who you are,

897
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 5: and it's important for us to be who we are.

898
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 5: But it's recognizing that what is actually and it's what

899
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: I touched on again earlier, it's recognizing what leads us there.

900
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 5: So are we rushing around because it's fulfilling to us?

901
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 5: Or are we rushing around so that our mother or

902
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: our father thinks that we're really like a really hard worker,

903
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 5: or so that our husband thinks that or our partner

904
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 5: thinks that. You know, we've got to look at what's

905
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 5: driving us, because when we do things from a genuine

906
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 5: place of caring or inspiration, it's really energizing. But when

907
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 5: we do things out of duty, it's really depleting. So

908
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 5: I get women is a part where it's really coming from,

909
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 5: and so that they can live more in alignment with

910
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 5: who they really are, that on its own can make

911
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 5: a massive difference.

912
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: You've kind of just described my whole journey. You know,

913
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: it's really been my journey of figuring out, Yeah, what

914
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: is the actual driver and basis for this side of

915
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: me who just wants to be busy all the time,

916
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: and then you know, then it having such detrimental things

917
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: for my health and really trying to find that beautiful

918
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: balance where I'm doing things I love and you know,

919
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: things that feel very authentic and they're me and they're

920
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: true to me, but also prioritizing my health and making

921
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: sure I am having a balanced approach because I feel like, yeah,

922
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: very much, all the symptoms that you have, you know,

923
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: my thyroid, you know, weight gain or weight loss and

924
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: hefeli out and all those things like I have gone

925
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: through and it's when I kind of come back to myself,

926
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, hang on, I need to get back to

927
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 1: the basics. I need to figure out what's actually going

928
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: on here. Just has been yeah, very very important. So

929
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: it's it's funny how you know much of what we're

930
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: even talking about this whole episode is everything correlates together,

931
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: and when something is disrupted, it's like it affects everything else.

932
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love that we're kind of doing a

933
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: full circle.

934
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 5: Do you know the other thing that I would love

935
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: to add to that is it's live. We have a

936
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 5: you know, a lot you hear a lot of people

937
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 5: talk and they'll say, oh, that happened to me, and

938
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 5: then that happened to me. But I like to pose

939
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 5: the question to people, and I feel that your evidence

940
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 5: of this.

941
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: Georgie, through the work that you're doing well.

942
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: I like to pose the question to people and say,

943
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 5: what if it was all for you? So what if

944
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 5: all the challenges, what if the thought, you know, all

945
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 5: the things you've just described, what if it was all

946
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 5: happening for you? Because and I've got goosebumps right now

947
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 5: saying that you probably wouldn't be sitting here with this

948
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 5: extraordinary podcast if and this extraordinary community.

949
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: Had you not been through that.

950
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 5: So there are even though I'm not denying for a second,

951
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 5: it's not challenging, it's not frustrating. There's not times when

952
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 5: it's confusing or devastating or.

953
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 2: Really really hard.

954
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 5: But then there's also these really beautiful benefits. So it's

955
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 5: sort of like if we shift out of the belief

956
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 5: that life happens to us, to life happens for us,

957
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 5: and you can sort of start see that life happens

958
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: through us, which is I feel like this little circle

959
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 5: conversation is kind of evidence of that. And then you

960
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 5: start showing up for life. So then it's when you

961
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 5: wake up up in the morning instead of oh my goodness,

962
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 5: I have this and this and this and this to do,

963
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 5: even though that will still happen. Sometimes there's less of that.

964
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 2: It's a lot more.

965
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 5: This just blows my mind that I get to do this,

966
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 5: and it just blows my mind that through challenges I've faced,

967
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 5: I'm now sharing information with people that support them, uplift them,

968
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 5: give them ideas about roads to God. And so you

969
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 5: see the extraordinary ripple effect. And I'm obsessed with that.

970
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 5: So I just had to say that because I take

971
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 5: my hat off to you for sharing your journey and

972
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 5: you know what you've experienced and then also how you've

973
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 5: helped yourself.

974
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 2: It's wonderful.

975
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Libby, I literally think we're soul sisters

976
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: because literally two weeks ago, I got a tattoo that

977
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: says life happens for me. What Because every time I'm

978
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: going through a challenge or exactly what you're talking about,

979
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nope, even though it looks bleak right now

980
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: and it's like I can't I can't see it. I

981
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: know this is going to be something that a challenge

982
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: I can share with my community that is going to

983
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: then help someone else or I am So you know,

984
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: that is such a core belief of mine, of life

985
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: happens for me. I've literally got it tattooed on my arm.

986
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: So I love I love that you said that because

987
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: that is truly like with my health journey and everything

988
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: I've been on, Like it's like I very much, I'm like, no,

989
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: this is all happening, and just yeah, in day to

990
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: day it's such a huge thing to get me through

991
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: the hard times. And you know when things aren't going

992
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: how you think they should, and just going I'm not

993
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: gonna let this stress me. It's a huge de stressor

994
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: and letting the weight off my shoulders because I'm like,

995
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: it's fine. Life happens for me. This is obviously happening

996
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: for reason, and it's so fine, and I can like

997
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: wear a smile and be like it's fine.

998
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: That is so special as well. I'm very born away.

999
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: That's really special.

1000
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: It's so cool that you went down there. I'm like,

1001
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: I've got a tattoo.

1002
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: All right.

1003
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: Well, let's get to a couple of kind of just

1004
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: a quick fire questions about food. So I thought these

1005
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: were really really great and I'm actually just really interested

1006
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: to hear what you say. So do you think dairy

1007
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: is bad for us? Ah?

1008
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a lot of people's friends, and

1009
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are unaware of that.

1010
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 5: So obviously it's you know, it's designed to raise a

1011
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 5: baby cow, a baby calf to be an adult cow.

1012
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: And so the rate of growth that a baby calf

1013
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: undergoes to become an adult in about a year, they

1014
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 5: go from about forty kilograms to about seven hundred kilograms.

1015
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 5: So it's really fast rate of growth, and that's not

1016
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 5: because of anything the farmers do to the milk. It's

1017
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 5: just because of the natural growth hormones present, because ma

1018
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 5: ma cow thinks that that's what her baby needs. So

1019
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 5: I think a big difference between you know, giving that

1020
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 5: to humans who we don't grow at those rates. You know,

1021
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 5: we might be three kilograms when we're born and seventy

1022
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 5: kilograms when we're an adult. It's a really slow rate

1023
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 5: of growth. So that's my biggest concern with it. I

1024
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 5: do think too that for some people with gut problems,

1025
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 5: that's behind them. And I think a lot of people

1026
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 5: think it's lactose and in my clinical experience for a

1027
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 5: lot of people, it's the caseine in the dairy foods,

1028
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 5: so one of the proteins in it. I've seen that

1029
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 5: a lot.

1030
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: Interesting. Do you think it's bad if we drink coffee

1031
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, Yeah, it can.

1032
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 5: Be for some people, can really disrupt their blood gluecose levels.

1033
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 5: So I'm never going to say, I'm never going to

1034
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 5: say don't do it. And I you know, if you

1035
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 5: look at Italian the way Italians live, they do it

1036
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 5: and they don't have big levels of insulin resistance, whereas

1037
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 5: I do worry though, like down Under with the way

1038
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 5: that a lot of people eat down under that, Yeah,

1039
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 5: it can be a real disruptor to blood glucose and

1040
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 5: set you up to crave sugar later in the morning.

1041
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, in saying all of that, though, I do

1042
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 5: know some people who do it and love it, relish it,

1043
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 5: feel fabulous doing it. It's not a big disruptive for them.

1044
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 5: So it's more about noticing how it leads you to feel.

1045
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, like listening to your own body. Going back

1046
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: to the milk question, so you know people are moving

1047
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: away from cow's milk, Is there a specific vigan or

1048
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: like a nut milk that you prefer or go for,

1049
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: because I know some, like a lot of like alternative

1050
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: milks can be so processed, so I'd love to hear

1051
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: your opinion on that.

1052
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they are, they all of them are processed.

1053
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 5: Rice milk is probably the least process because it's just

1054
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 5: taken rice boiled it with water strained it. They add

1055
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 5: calcium carbonate to it and not much else. So rice

1056
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 5: milk is Yes, it's processed, but it's not as processed

1057
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 5: as some of the other milks. It's also very low

1058
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 5: reactivity for people with allergies and food sensitivities, so that

1059
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 5: can be a choice that Yeah, I think a lot

1060
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 5: of people have forgotten about one of my concerns with

1061
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 5: you know, the use of a lot of the nut milks.

1062
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 5: You know, people have kind of gone crazy for almonds,

1063
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 5: and they might eat almonds, you know, raw almonds.

1064
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: They might have almond butter.

1065
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 5: Then they have a coffee with almond milk and it's

1066
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 5: just almoned almond almond. And even though almonds themselves have

1067
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 5: got lots of nutrients in them like vitamin E, magnesium, calcium,

1068
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 5: you know, they're really nutrient dense. When you eat a

1069
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 5: handful of almonds, they do also contain some Omega six

1070
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 5: fatty acids that can promote inflammation. So don't be scared about,

1071
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 5: you know, eating a handful of them. But if you're

1072
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 5: doing almond everything in your life, it can be too

1073
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 5: much a Mega six fat.

1074
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: So like, do you have any milks with your coffee

1075
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: or you just go black black or you don't have coffee.

1076
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 5: No, I have coffee sometimes black coffee. Rice milk is

1077
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 5: also really yummy in coffee.

1078
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: Okay, noted, that's amazing. Thank you. Yeah, because I was

1079
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: on the oat milk train and then someone told me

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Speaker 1: how processed it was, and I was like, fuck, so

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Speaker 1: I stopped the I stopped the oat milk. So I

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Speaker 1: just I think it's so interesting because you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm so healthy, I'm eating oat milk. But it's like, oh, wait.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think too.

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Speaker 5: There's yeah, and some people digest cow's milk without a problem.

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Speaker 5: But I think it's yeah, it's working out what suits you,

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Speaker 5: but also having you know, recognition that, yeah, that all

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Speaker 5: of those milk alternatives are pretty highly processed.

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Speaker 1: Good to know. I might start doing black coffee or

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Speaker 1: like a long black night shades. Watch your opinion on these,

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Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people avoid them.

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Speaker 5: So with night shades, potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants, et cetera. So

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Speaker 5: some people avoid them. They originally were became a became

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Speaker 5: a thing to avoid because people had joint pain, and

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Speaker 5: then others noticed they might have gut problems from them.

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Speaker 5: But I always encourage people to explore how they go

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Speaker 5: with them. So for some people it might just be

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Speaker 5: plants and tomatoes that cause bloating and they might be fine.

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Speaker 5: For example, with potatoes, so I try really hard to

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Speaker 5: not sort of go blanket with you know, big statements

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Speaker 5: when people go low FODMAT. For example, I want to

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Speaker 5: know which one of the fermentables in the food, which

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Speaker 5: one of the FODMAPs is the problem for the person,

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Speaker 5: or it might be a number of them over the

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Speaker 5: You know, a low podmap way of eating is super

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Speaker 5: super restrictive, and you're not really supposed to do it

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Speaker 5: for more than four to six weeks, and ideally under

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Speaker 5: the supervision of an experienced nutrition professional, because you can

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Speaker 5: become deficient in a lot of nutrients when you stick

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Speaker 5: to low FODMAP. So I like to I always encourage

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Speaker 5: people to do the trial reintroductions to see how they

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Speaker 5: go with those foods night Shade family included, to see

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Speaker 5: how you respond to the individual foods. So with low

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Speaker 5: fodmap people sometimes it's literally just onion, garlic and apples,

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Speaker 5: and if you avoid those, tummy's okay. Whereas you know,

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Speaker 5: and that's not that restrictive compared to a true proper

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Speaker 5: low fat way of eating. So if people are choosing

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Speaker 5: not to have night shades, I want to know why

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Speaker 5: and if you know, and there might be a really

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Speaker 5: valid reason or they might just think that all night

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Speaker 5: shades affect their gut badly.

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Speaker 2: I'll usually ask them to get them to try the foods.

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Speaker 1: And talking of gut health, I know this is like

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Speaker 1: you know this. I'm sure you could do a whole

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Speaker 1: podcast on this, but just really quickly, because gut health

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Speaker 1: is just you know, something I'm focusing on. Is there

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Speaker 1: any sort of foods that you go for for gut

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Speaker 1: health or any foods that you avoid for gut health.

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Speaker 5: Sugar is the biggest disruptor to gut health on the planet.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so there's actually when we eat sugar, and

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Speaker 5: some massive reason I've made a course about this, When

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Speaker 5: we eat refined sugar, it actually can kill a gut

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Speaker 5: bacteria that helps to regulate a substance that drives or

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Speaker 5: that impacts significantly our fat absorption and utilization. And then

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Speaker 5: when we go off sugar and we continue to eat fat,

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Speaker 5: that little bacteria can grow back and regulate this substance

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Speaker 5: that has such a massive impact on our fat metabolism

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Speaker 5: and on fat absorption and fat utilization in the body.

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Speaker 5: So sugar is one of the biggest disruptors to the

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Speaker 5: gut microbiome. Preservatives are as well, and it makes sense

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Speaker 5: when you think about it. So preservatives are only added

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Speaker 5: to process food, not for human health benefits. They're just

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Speaker 5: there to make them sit on the shelf for longer

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Speaker 5: and the hope someone buys them before they go off.

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Speaker 5: And the way preservatives work is they stop bacterial growth.

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Speaker 5: But we have between half a kilo and four kilos

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Speaker 5: of bacteria living in our large intestine that do so

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Speaker 5: much good stuff for us, help regulate our immune response, help.

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Speaker 2: To determine what calor is a worth. They have the

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Speaker 2: biggest effect.

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Speaker 5: And the preservatives in food, we now understand they affect

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Speaker 5: our gut microbiome in a really detrimental way. So just

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Speaker 5: the preservatives you get, you know, just from homus or

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Speaker 5: some kind of dip you buy in the supermarket, or

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Speaker 5: dried fruit that's got the sulfur preservative on it. Wine,

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Speaker 5: they're all really common sources of preservatives, and ideally we

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Speaker 5: want to be preservative free so that we look after

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Speaker 5: our gut microbiome.

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Speaker 2: Especially.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I never heard like someone talk about that, like

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Speaker 1: preservatives like that. That's so interesting. Now you've got rethinking

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Speaker 1: everything my fracture. I would love to talk more about

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Speaker 1: your sugar Core. So tell us more about like what's

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Speaker 1: in it and why you wanted to create it.

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Speaker 5: Oh thanks, Georgie, that's so kind. So it's a six

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Speaker 5: week online course. It's called Shake Off Sugar, and I

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Speaker 5: did it because over all the years I've worked with people,

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Speaker 5: I feel that sugar is the thing they struggle to

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Speaker 5: to only have in moderation or to not have it all.

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Speaker 5: People can give up all sorts of other things, but sugar.

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Speaker 5: People will say they feel addicted to it. And I

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Speaker 5: wanted people to understand that I do and help people

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Speaker 5: to get off it because it's driving so many health problems,

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Speaker 5: everything from hormone imbalances to insulin resistance, you know, the

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Speaker 5: you know problems with our brain like brain fog, but

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Speaker 5: also memory, you know, problems with memory. It's really significant

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Speaker 5: what it's doing to us, and we're massively over consuming it.

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Speaker 5: So it's a six week course. You get a daily

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Speaker 5: video from me with education. There's a beautiful supportive community

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Speaker 5: forum in there as well. There's a food matrix. We

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Speaker 5: can drag and drop and plan all your meals for

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Speaker 5: the week if you want to. And there's three stages

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Speaker 5: to it. The first stage is shake it off where

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Speaker 5: we get where we get rid of it. And then

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Speaker 5: the next stage is called shift, where we shift the

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Speaker 5: taste buds. And I also help people to understand what's

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Speaker 5: driving their emotional connection to sugar, because.

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Speaker 2: That's a big deal for a lot of them. And

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Speaker 2: then the final stage, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The final stage is substitute, where you know, what am

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Speaker 5: I going to do going forward? So it's it's let's

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Speaker 5: move into the future with a lot less sugar, all

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Speaker 5: continuing to be sugar free.

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Speaker 2: Whatever's going to work for the person.

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited to help people literally shake it off

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Speaker 5: because we need to.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's incredible. I feel like I might

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Speaker 1: do it. That sounds especially everything you've been saying about,

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Speaker 1: you know, it being such a driver that disrupts so

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Speaker 1: many things in our bodies, like I got health and

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Speaker 1: our hormones, and if we can just like get the

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Speaker 1: handle of that, that would then, you know, like you said,

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Speaker 1: have like this beautiful ripple effect in everything in our health.

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Speaker 5: That said so beautifully, that's exactly what happens. And it

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Speaker 5: blows my mind when I see that in action.

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Speaker 2: I love it so much.

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Speaker 1: That is incredible. So when does it start? How can

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Speaker 1: people get a handle of it. How can I find it?

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Speaker 2: February and it's at doctor Libby dot com.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. And then are you running it after that or

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Speaker 1: is it only for that six weeks?

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Speaker 5: No, it's it'll be run five times each year, so

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Speaker 5: you can go to the website to doctor Libby dot

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Speaker 5: com and see when the next intake is after that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, amazing. And before we go, Libby, I just want

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Speaker 1: to say a big thank you for you know, chatting

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Speaker 1: to us and telling us all your health insights. It's

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Speaker 1: it's been such a great time and I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm just clocking everything. I would love to end this

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Speaker 1: interview just with a couple of questions. We ask our guests,

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Speaker 1: what is the best advice you have ever received?

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's a lovely question. To let yourself have what

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Speaker 5: you already have. And what I mean by that is

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Speaker 5: we spend a lot of time focused on things that

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Speaker 5: are missing or things that are wrong. And when you

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Speaker 5: talk to people who are dying and you ask and

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Speaker 5: what they're going to miss, they say the simplest things,

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Speaker 5: the night sky or their partner space or the smell

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Speaker 5: of freshly cut lemon. And we have all of that

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Speaker 5: right now. So I think we need to let ourselves

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Speaker 5: have what we already have because even when things are

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Speaker 5: genuinely tough or challenging or painful, there is also still

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Speaker 5: a huge amount of beauty that coexists with that. It's

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Speaker 5: just that when things are tough, we don't focus on

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Speaker 5: those things. So let yourself have what you already have,

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Speaker 5: because I think that's what joy is all about, and

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Speaker 5: joy gives us a irreplaceable depth of energy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can just see a tears face across from me,

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Speaker 1: and we both want to griy. They're so sweet. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing that, and honestly and

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Speaker 1: so and lastly, something that we ask all our guests

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Speaker 1: too is what is one of your core beliefs that

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Speaker 1: you hold close to your heart? So just for an example,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know what car beliefs are, much like

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Speaker 1: my tattoo of life happens for me, which I now

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Speaker 1: know is one of yours too, But what's another beautiful

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Speaker 1: core belief that you have?

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Speaker 2: Love is all there is?

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Speaker 1: Oh, Libby, we love you. It was so beautiful, loved.

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Speaker 2: I love this chat.

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Speaker 5: I've loved the questions and you've been incredibly generous letting

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Speaker 5: me rab it on with all my answers.

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Speaker 2: But thank you so much, Georgie.

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Speaker 1: This has been so so insightful and such a joy.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Guys. Make sure you go check

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Speaker 1: out Doctor Libby. We'll put all the links and everything

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Speaker 1: out in the description. Make sure you check out that

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Speaker 1: sugar course. And yeah, just thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: your time. We really do appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: I loved being here with you. Thank you so much, Georgie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer podcast. If you enjoyed it and

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