1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: On today's show, Kurt Till's sparks debate over photography Workshop, 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson's mystery Man named another Day, another outrageous post 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: by Mitch Third, and Robert Irwin makes it official. Hello 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: influencer in pop culture news twice a week. I'm Amy 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Torber and let's get straight into the show. Young hearts 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: were breaking across Australia this week when Robert Erwin made 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: his first public appearance with girlfriend Rory Bucky at the 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Mission Impossible premiere. Now everyone is going nuts about these photos. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: So is it just because people are jealous? Because I'm 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: not really into Robert Erwin. He's not really my demographic. Yeah, 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: he's made the jen Z heartthrob. I think my partner 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: has a bigger crush in than I do. I mean, 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: he looks so young. They look very cute together in 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: the photos they are. I think they're so cute. But 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: a lot of girls are actually photoshopping their own images 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: over Rory. She kind of looks a little bit like 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: a young Taylor Swit. Yeah, they look like a brother 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: sister duo. I was I'm so happy when I saw 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: these photos again, I'm not in the age demo to 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: beat jealous over this actually a mixture of Taylor Swift 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: and Bindi Erwin strangely. Sure, Yeah, a lot of people 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: were commenting that they looked a lot like brother and 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: sister in the photo. So what do we know about Rory? Well, 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about the fact that she 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: is the niece of Heath Ledger. So her mum Kate 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: is Heath Ledger's sister, and she's nineteen. She's actually an 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: identical twin sister, And I was thinking, how would the 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: sister feel about her own sister dating this gen zed 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: heart throat, like you'd be a bit jealous. Look, I'm 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: sure it's probably opening doors for her as well. She 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: probably have access to some other gen said Heartthrogs. So 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: her mum Kate actually owns a design and media productions company, 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: and her dad owns a floor coverings business. And Rory 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: keeps a very low profile online. Her Instagram is set 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: to private and she has two hundred and ninety eight followers. 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: One of those is, of course, Robert Irwin. Feel like 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: that would have been a big strategic move before making 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: an announcement that he has a girlfriend or before appearing 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: on the Red Car. But I feel like they would 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: have been a lot of deleting going on, of embarrassing stuff. Also, 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: the account would have been put to private media. I 43 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of like that She's not this big influence, so 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like she's trying to gain anything from Robert. Yeah. Well, 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: they've been dating for seven months now and most of 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: the time it has been spent long distance. However, Robert 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: is yet to post a photo of the pair together. 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: I think his account will explode when that happens, partly 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: with people's rage and jealousy and partly for those happy 50 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: with them. I feel like this public appearance, though, is 51 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: kind of the green light for him to start sharing 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: a lot of photos of them together, so we just 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: have to wait and see. And I loved it because 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: these photos have been all over the newspapers, all over 55 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: online media, and the paps have been following them. So 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: they spotted Robert and Rory at Brisbane Airport and I 57 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: loved it because Robert is seen holding a twelve pack 58 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: of Krispy Kreme donuts and it just reminded me of 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: that wild time when Adelaide didn't have a Krispy Kreme. 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: Remember everyone was going to Melbourne Airport and they'd come 61 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: back with bags and bags of it. I remember going 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: to the airport and being like, I don't actually one 63 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: of chrispy Kreme. I feel like I've got to get one, 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: but I need twelve. And now that Krispy Kreme has 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: been opened in Adelaide for probably like ten plus years, 66 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: I never go now. Rory and Robert's relationship came to 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: light around the same time as that viral TikTok video 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: of a tourist at Australia Zoo. So basically, the tourist asked 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: rob for his number, and Robert responded politely saying that 70 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: the best way to contact him is through Instagram, to 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: which the girl in the crowd responded saying, I've already 72 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: messaged you on there last night and you haven't got 73 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: back to be I remember seeing this. It was all 74 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: on the morning shows that they were doing crosses to 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: this young girl, and then it came out the next 76 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: day that he had a girlfriend, so it was obvious 77 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: why he had sort of tried to shut her down publicly. Yeah, 78 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: oh god, that is so embarrassing and if you guys 79 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: are wondering if Bindi approves. Robert recently told Eane News 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: that his sister was pushing for him to be in 81 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: a relationship because she basically wanted him to take the 82 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: heat off her. She said there's been so much attention 83 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: around her wedding and a baby, and there's even rumors 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: swelling now about baby number two, that she thought it 85 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: was time for Robert to take some of that attention away. Okay, 86 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: hey guys, welcome back to the channel today. I'm going 87 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: to be taking you on a photo shoot with us. 88 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Kurtiells is being slammed by some followers for what they 89 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: think is a cash grab. Now he announced he is 90 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: holding a photography workshop for beginners that will set butting 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: photographers back five hundred dollars for an eight hour course. Now. 92 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: He announced the news on his agency's Instagram account, which 93 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: is called House of Grom's, revealing that the workshop will 94 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: cover the basics of photography. Now. He urged his followers 95 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: to get in quick as there's only thirty spots available, 96 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: so doing the quick math here, that means that Kurt 97 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: is set to make fifteen thousand dollars for the workshop. 98 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 1: I don't really get what the big deal is because 99 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 1: I feel like Sarah and Kurt would easily make fifteen 100 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: grand on an Instagram post, so I don't think it's 101 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of money for them. Yeah, 102 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: but it's I think it's the fact that it's a 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: lot of money to other people to be making for 104 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: one day's work. However, I thought it was a bit 105 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: pathetic the outrage because a lot of these courses are 106 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: tax deductible, so if you're a budding photographer or maybe 107 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: you're needing to do the course for work, you can 108 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: claim it as a taxaduction. Like, it's not a huge 109 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: amount to be spending five hundred dollars on a course 110 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: that is going to help you with extra skills. I 111 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: think people are looking at this as only eight hours 112 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: of work and thinking, wow, that's an incredible amount to 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: be paid for one day of work. But the reality 114 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: is that there's a lot of time and effort that 115 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: goes into these workshops, as well as a lot of expertise. 116 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: I think people are just making a fuss about it 117 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: because he's married to Sarah's day. I feel like if 118 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: he was anyone else that was putting out a course, 119 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: no one would have an issue with it. It's so 120 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: true because I follow so many photographers and videographers and 121 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: I've seen someone doing identical course, except it was for 122 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: three hours and it was four hundred and fifty dollars 123 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: a spot. I was surprised that Kurt would actually give 124 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: up a day of work to do this sort of course, 125 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: And it made me think, do they need more money 126 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: for House of Groms Because they recently bought this mansion 127 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: on the coast for millions of dollars and they're renting 128 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: that out as a studio. I think they're looking for 129 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: more of a passive income because they're also renting out 130 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: the studio space for a daily fee. So I think 131 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: they're trying to work out other ways where they can 132 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: make money. Perhaps Kurt isn't required to be on location, 133 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: because remember Sarah was complaining a lot that Kurt was 134 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: out of the house filming at the Melbourne Cup. He 135 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: was filming all these other clients and I suppose to stay. 136 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: And I suppose it's a way to get people to 137 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: actually then rent their studio from them exactly, Yeah, ta 138 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: train them up and charge them for the studio space. 139 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: I think Kurt really wants to stand on his own 140 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: and be known as a photographer. I have noticed that 141 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: he's been very active on his YouTube account, which he 142 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: has renamed House of Grom's, and he's been doing a 143 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: lot of videos where he explains the basics of cameras 144 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: and he tests out, you know, he shows commercials that 145 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: he's made. He's really trying to be like Peter McKinnon. Yeah, definitely, 146 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: and I think that that's why it's really important to 147 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: him to feel like he's an expert in that film. 148 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't blame him though, because he always has been 149 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: in Sarah's Day shadow and I know House of Grom's 150 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: is now the umbrella brand that has Sarah's Day and 151 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Sonny and all of the other brands underneath it. But 152 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: I do feel House of Grom's more sits with Kurt. 153 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: We've seen Sarah talk about how she's never in the 154 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: office anymore, that she's really taken a step back from 155 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: her business roles and is wanting to focus more on 156 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: vlogging and being a mum. It was really interesting because 157 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: in Sarah's Day's recent YouTube video, Kurt brought up the 158 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: fact that Sarah doesn't work as much anymore. Yes, I 159 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: think she looked pissed off when he said yeah. And 160 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: it's quite clear because even he doesn't really make much 161 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: of an appearance in her videos anymore, but when he does, 162 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: he always looks so tired and it looks like he's 163 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: been working really late. Yeah. Then that's why we're surprised 164 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: he could give up a day of his time to 165 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: actually do this course, because they act like he has 166 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: just got so much on the go. I actually think 167 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: it gives you a really good insight into how much 168 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: House of Grom's must charge for a day shoot. If 169 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: they've added up, well, it's fifteen thousand for Kurt's time, yeah, exactly. 170 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: I know it might sound silly, but I did almost 171 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: enjoy the discussion about this because it almost seems progressive 172 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: because a lot of the time it's only women who 173 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: get judge for charging a lot of money for things. 174 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like there's always this snark around women earning money, 175 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: especially Georgie Stevenson. Everyone seems to be so pissed off 176 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: that she's earning a lot of money, And to me, 177 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, good honor. If there's people willing to 178 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: pay for her wisdom and teaching through her course. What's 179 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: the problem. I think there's a bit of snark around 180 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson's course because it is about manifesting, and I 181 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of people think maybe they don't know 182 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: the ins and outs of the course and they assume 183 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: that she's telling people that you can just wish for 184 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: money and all. Yeah. But she got recently slammed because 185 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: she released a course of about her being a working 186 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: mum and people like, oh, it's bullshit because she's got 187 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: a personal chef and it's like, I understand that people 188 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: are jealous about that, but she's still very inspirational on 189 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: how she manages to have her businesses and be at MUMA. 190 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: Shouldn't we be applauding that. I can see where the 191 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: annoyance comes from, though, because when you're grinding it out 192 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: in a nine to five job and you hear, oh, 193 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: this influence has just put out this new course, and 194 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, when they put themselves in this position 195 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: of authority like to tell you how you should live 196 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: your live. I don't see what people get annoyed. But 197 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: she makes a lot of her money as well from 198 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: her business Naked Harvest, and I think people go, oh, 199 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: all the money is just from the online course. No, 200 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: so much of it's from Naked Hard I get that, 201 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: but I think that at the end of the day, 202 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: particularly when we're in a cost of living crisis, people 203 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: get their back up when they hear that people are 204 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: earning these exorbitant amounts of money, and it's hard not 205 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: to be jealous. Yeah, but if you don't want to 206 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: do the course, don't do it. Like people are genuinely 207 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: wanting something from Kurt and from Georgie. They want their knowledge, 208 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: and that's why they're happy to pay the amount that 209 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: they're charging for it. Like, why are you holding it? 210 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: We're doing it. I feel like shit. I have been 211 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: as sick as a dog. We're gonna flock together. We're 212 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna spend the weekend together. I miss you guys. On Tuesday, 213 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: we discussed that Sammy Robinson has teased a potential new relationship. 214 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: So Sammy shared a photo from the beach of her 215 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: silhouette cuddled up to another tool silhouette and she was 216 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: spending the day at a parents' mansion, So it looked 217 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: like things could be serious between this new love interest. Yeah, 218 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: so on Tuesday we did put a bit of a 219 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: call out asking any super sluice if they had any 220 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: information about this mystery man's identity. Someone did message us saying, oh, 221 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: it's Kate robertson her system. It's not well. One other 222 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: listener had a bit more information. They wrote in saying 223 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: I saw Sammy and the other girl she lives with 224 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: out at brunch in Bondai about three weeks ago with 225 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: a new man. He seemed interested in Sammy. It's definitely 226 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: him now Influence updates. They've also done a lot of 227 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: the heavy lifting for us, reporting that they believe the 228 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: mystery man is a guy by the name of Harrison 229 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: Mattel and I did a bit of googling. It appears 230 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: that Harrison is a rugby player, not another one. So 231 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: he is twenty nine years old and he currently plays 232 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: for Manly. He also previously played professionally for Tonga, and 233 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: he used to live in New Zealand. So it definitely 234 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: appears that Sammy has a type because her previous ex Jordan, 235 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: was also from New Zealand and also played rugby. Oh no, 236 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't feel good about this, particularly if there's so 237 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: many similarities It's pretty funny because I thought Jordan Simmy 238 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: would be upset, but it already seems like he's trying 239 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: to one up Sammy. So he actually did a hard 240 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: launch of his own. So he attended the premiere of 241 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Mission Impossible alongside his new girlfriend Tory Levitt. So he 242 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: shared this really cringe video of him walking hand in 243 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: hand with Tory down the red carpet as he stared 244 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: back at the camera as you do, his poor friend 245 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: having to film this. Now, Tory does have a profile. 246 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: I think that she was actually the person invited to 247 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: this premiere. She has one hundred and twenty nine thousand 248 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: followers on Instagram and she is a DJ and vocalist. 249 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: She kind of looks a bit like Sammy too. She's 250 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: very tall, tanned, very slim, and she's blonde, so almost 251 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: from the back you could have thought it was Sammy Robinson. 252 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: It's very interesting that they've both kind of soft and 253 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: hard launched relationships within a week of each other. Look, 254 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: the only thing I like about this Harrison, this new 255 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: guy Harrison, is the fact that he's only got two 256 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: thousand followers on Instagram and his account is set to private, 257 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: so I don't feel like he's looking for clout like Jordan, 258 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Also because I sometimes feel like fuck boys do have 259 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: private Instagram accounts to kind of keep what they're doing 260 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: on the down. I'm not trying to say he is 261 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: a fuck boy, but it sounds like he's not after 262 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: the same out that Jordan's after. I mean even it 263 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: just seems like he's still trying to take a swipe 264 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: at Sammy and get under her skin by putting this 265 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: out look, I feel like anyone will be an upgrade 266 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: from Jordan, let's be honest. So I was in the 267 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: shower and I'm like, babe, there's no body watching, and 268 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: no body watch for like two weeks, and then he'll 269 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: be and then he'll ask me questions that he knows 270 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: the answer to. It's been reported that Sky Wheatly's baby daddy, 271 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: Locky War, is suing a millionaire travel baron called Danny 272 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: giros Now. It all started when Lockie's business shop fit Co, 273 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: was employed to do the fit out for Danny's latest venture, 274 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: which is a burger bar. Now, Danny owns a number 275 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: of venues as part of the Kokomo Living group, and 276 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Lockie is claiming that Danny has allegedly failed to pay 277 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: him for part of the workshop Fit completed last year. 278 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: In his claim, Locke also alleges that he gave written 279 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: notice to Komoko Living and Danny on November third, saying 280 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: he was ceasing work on the burger Bar due to 281 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: the non payment. Now it's important to note that Danny 282 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: denies these claims. Danny currently lives in a four point 283 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: five million dollar waterfront home in Sydney, and it's also 284 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: being reported by The Courier Mail that Lockie has lodged 285 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: a caveat, which is basically a notice saying that Danny 286 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: cannot sell his two apartments and his shop whilst this 287 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: dispute is going on. Now Danny has admitted that the 288 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,359 Speaker 1: invoices remain unpaid, and he's counter seing shop Fit, alleging 289 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: their work was shoddy and incomplete. I'm really intrigued to 290 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: see if Sky mentions this on her Instagram at all. 291 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: I understand that it's a legal matter, but Sky quite 292 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: often has outbursts over things that she's upset about that 293 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: she's not meant to talk about, and surely this sort 294 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: of legal battle would be putting a lot of strain 295 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: on them. They are still doing renovations. They'd been doing 296 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: renovations for so long, and surely the fact that this 297 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: business has not paid or allegedly not paid sixty thousand 298 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: dollars that would be weighing heavy on them. Look. I 299 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: hope that Sky does stay quiet, because, as you said, 300 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: this is a legal matter. Surely Lockie would have clued 301 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: her in and said, please do not say anything. I 302 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: do feel for Lockie. It hasn't been a good week 303 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: for him. Embarrassingly, he generated headlines on pedestrian because Sky 304 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: accidentally exposed him in the background doing a poo on 305 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: her TikTok account. So in the video, which has since 306 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: been deleted, Sky was chatting to the camera. However, clearly 307 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: you can see Lockie in the background with his pants 308 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: down to his ankles, doing a poo with the door open. 309 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: I found it ironic because Sky always seems to be 310 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: filming herself on the toilet, talking like She's always like, 311 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually just doing a piss at the moment. Well, 312 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: it does kind of play into her sense of humor. 313 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: But it seems quite apparent that neither of them realized 314 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: that Lockie was actually featured in this clip. Because a 315 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: lot of followers had to message Sky and she immediately 316 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: took it down. God, can you imagine the fight. I mean, 317 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: I would have been so pissed off if someone accidentally 318 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: put me on the toilet in the background of their TikTok. 319 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: I think the thing that's worse is not even being 320 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: on the TikTok, but the fact that pedestrian was reporting 321 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: about it told me having like a stress poo over 322 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: this whole court case, and was just captured on camera. 323 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: The fact that it said that his pants were down 324 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: buys ankles. Do you think that's a male thing? Yeah, 325 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: because I've never gone to the toilet and thought, I'm 326 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: I pull my pants right down to my ankle. It 327 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: gets cold, especially in winter doing that. It's not even 328 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: a cold thing for me. It's just like I feel 329 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: really exposed if I'm like on the toilet and I've 330 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: just put my pants right down to my ankles and 331 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: just sitting there with my little legs out like. I 332 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's because men have hairy legs, 333 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: so they don't feel the cold as much. When I 334 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: walked in on your partner on the toilet accidentally, he 335 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: had his full pants down to the ground, hairy legs out. 336 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: There are also those men that say they have to 337 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: completely get undressed to go to the toilet as well. 338 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: It's like another kettle of fish, because I've heard that. 339 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: So like they sit there completely nude. Yeah, they have 340 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: to actually have no clothing on while they do a 341 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: shit for some reason, kind of complex about it being 342 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: dirty that they don't want to dirty their clothes. To me, 343 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: I find it dirtier to have to take all your 344 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: clothes off and like put them on the ground and 345 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: then and how do you do that? At work? I've 346 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: heard people showering as well after they go to the toilet. Well, 347 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: well every time time. Yeah, there's some people who do 348 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: it every time they have a shower. So that's why 349 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: some people, Yeah, that's why some people will drive home 350 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: from work so they can have their shower or hold 351 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: on until they can shower. That's absurd. What's up YouTube? 352 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: My name's Mitch Third and I'm the founder and CEO 353 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: of Australia's number one shake a bottle Third Fix. Mitch 354 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: Third is at it again. Over the weekend, he posted 355 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: a photo of his kitchen bench filled with healthy food. 356 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: He then uphold his followers by captioning the post your 357 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: goals are irrelevant if you're fat and unhealthy health first. 358 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: Is he just trolling us now and trying to put 359 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: out the most offensive content he can just for headlines. Yeah, 360 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: where he has spoken about not caring about being canceled 361 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: and that he wants to speak his truth. I mean, 362 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: he's trying to tout himself as being a motivational speaker. 363 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: It's like he's trying to have this point of difference 364 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: where he's not very telling it how it is, like, 365 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. Okay, you had a classic one liner 366 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: the other week where you said that Mitch Third's followers 367 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: were all fuck quits. I think I said that they were. 368 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: Oh I did said that quick. Yeah he's dead by that. 369 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if this isn't any more proof that Mitch 370 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: Third and also his followers are fuck with it's a 371 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: very odd move when you're bringing out a new brand, 372 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: like he's bringing out energy drinks, but you're alienating a 373 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: whole portion of the community by saying basically, you're worthless 374 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: if you're fat, how disgusting you. It's definitely not very motivating. 375 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: Just shaming someone and ruining them their self esteem and 376 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: saying you shouldn't have any goals if you're overweight. How 377 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: does that make any sense? Do you think that Talia 378 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: Scanes was sort of babysitting him a bit when they 379 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: were together in terms of yeah, like saying maybe don't 380 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: put that out, or like because she was worried about 381 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: how it might affect her brand. Because it seems like 382 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: he's gone rogue since they broke up. I think he's 383 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: gone rogue because he's no longer relevant. She was the 384 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: one who made him relevant, and he's having to grasp 385 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: on to any sort of attention he can get. I 386 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: don't know about that, because I've heard more about him 387 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: as an individual since he's broken up with Tyliascines, Like, 388 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: he definitely used her profile, but he really is trying 389 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: to make something of himself, and I do think that's 390 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: why he is saying all these ridiculous comments. She's had attention, 391 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He's trying to say all these 392 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: outlandish things so he can maintain relevance. He's known as 393 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: this idiot who just says offensive shit online. The interesting 394 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: thing is that most of his followers originally, of course, 395 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: would have been followers of Talia Skins. It would have 396 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: been young women, but this is not the sort of 397 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: content to keep young women interested and invested in your life. 398 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: He's obviously going for a very different demographic. He's definitely 399 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: going for Joe Rogan vibes and that space of the internet. 400 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: What nothing, We haven't done anything if we saw it. No, 401 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: we haven't been anywhere near your Facebook page. For fuck's sake, 402 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: what you've done? Is anyone else living? For the feud 403 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: between tech billionaires Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musks so for 404 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: those who have missed it, last month, they sparked rumors 405 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: of a cage fight when Musk joked he wanted to 406 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: settle their beef in the ring, and Zuckerberg responded saying 407 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: send me location. So Musk has been making jokes on 408 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Twitter about the fight, and he shared photos of him 409 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: undertaking martial arts training. Did you guys know that Zuckerberg 410 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: is actually really good at jiuji? So? Apparently was that 411 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: in the movie about Facebook? Probably? I actually never watched 412 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: the movie. It wasn't in the movie. They made him 413 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: come across as a real nerve. Yeah, So apparently he's 414 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: looking really fit at the moment, and things are set 415 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: to escalate more this week, with Zuckerberg set to announce 416 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: a Twitter esque app called Threads, which has been dubbed 417 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: the Twitter Killer. So the app is likely to be 418 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: closely linked to Instagram, with users able to keep their 419 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: same username and retain their following. So Threads are said 420 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: to be the place where communities come together to discuss 421 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: everything from the topics you care about today to what 422 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: will be trending tomorrow. So essentially it's a copy of Twitter. 423 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: I feel like they trialed it a bit on Instagram 424 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: when people could add status updates. I mean the notes, yeah, 425 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: I mean the notes are more so a way of 426 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: helping single people. I suppose slide into dms because you 427 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: can actually reply to something that they're saying. It is 428 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: a clever move that you can retain your followers because 429 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: I know with Twitter they've now canceled everybody's blue ticks 430 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: that previously had them because they're trying to get everybody 431 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: to pay for it. So to be able to have 432 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: an already built audience on Threads is I think that's 433 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: very appealing to me. Yeah, and the fact that no 434 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: one wants to pay to use Twitter, so literally Zuckerberg's like, oh, 435 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: this is easy picking fruit, Like, I'm just gonna make 436 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: the same platform that people can use for free. I 437 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't want to start out 438 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: from zero. Yeah, no one wants to pay to use Twitter. 439 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: So this is just like an easy venture for Zuckerberg. 440 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: It's like, literally, here's a copy of Twitter. Just use 441 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: this if you want it. Yeah, no one wants to 442 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: start from zero. 443 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: Again, there is no such thing as a slut. There 444 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: is no such thing as a bitch. There is no 445 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: such thing as someone who's bossy. There's just a boss. Sorry, 446 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: that was a real soap boss. Why did I say sorry? 447 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: Because we're trained to say sorry? 448 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we legitimately are. We're like, sorry, was I loud 449 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: in my own house that I bought with the songs 450 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: that I wrote about my own life? 451 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I am obsessed with these? Am I the asshole questions? 452 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: I wrote it? So I've got another one for you, guys. 453 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: A thirty seven year old woman and asked Redder if 454 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: she was the asshole for holding a grudge against her 455 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: sister for a fight over a man years ago. Now 456 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: let's call this woman Heidi. So ten years ago, Heidi 457 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: dated this guy for three weeks, and he was apparently 458 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: a handsome lawyer, and she fell head over heels for him. 459 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: One day, they met up and she thought he was 460 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: going to ask her to be his girlfriend, but instead 461 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: he told her that they needed to stop seeing each other. 462 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: So he explained that he was after something casual while 463 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: she was clearly looking for a husband, And he also 464 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: didn't live in her hometown and was only there for 465 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: work and would be returning back to his hometown of 466 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: New York shortly, so Heidi was left absolutely gutted by this. 467 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: Now fast forward a month and her sister, Jessica graduated 468 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: law school and came home for a few weeks before 469 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: heading to live in New York, and the pair had 470 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: never been really close, so Jessica wasn't aware of Heidi's heartbreak. Anyway, 471 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: it turns out that unknowingly, Jessica began dating the same 472 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: guy Heidi was heartbroken over, and Heidi overheard a conversation 473 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: put two and two together, so confronted her sister. Now, 474 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: Jessica had no idea, and neither did the guy, because 475 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: apparently the sisters have very different features. They don't even 476 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: share the same last name, and they didn't talk about 477 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: their families. So after learning the connection, Jessica and the 478 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: guy decided to continue their relationship in New York and 479 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: became boyfriend and girlfriend now. This resulted in the sisters 480 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: having a huge argument. Heidi felt as though Jessica had 481 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: betrayed her and broke sister code by continuing to date 482 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: this guy, while Jessica thought Heidi should get over it 483 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: seeing as they only dated for three weeks. Everyone in 484 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: the family took Heidi's side, except their mum, who stayed neutral. 485 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: So ten years on and this feud is still going 486 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: on and the mom is the only one in the 487 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: family that talks to Jessica. Wait a sex, So is 488 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: the sister still dating the guy or is that finished? Yeah? So, 489 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: Jessica and the guy are now married and have two 490 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: kids together with a third on the way, And since 491 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: learning that Jessica is pregnant with her third and final child, 492 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: the family want her back in their lives and to 493 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: connect with her during her last pregnancy, and the family 494 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: want Heidi to apologize for making a big deal out 495 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: of nothing, but she has refused. I believe that this 496 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: family were on Heidi's side. I mean, get over it. Yeah, 497 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: you dated this guy for three weeks. His sister's been 498 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: with him for ten years. You know, it's actually so 499 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: fat and the sister he'd even fucking know they would. 500 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: It'd be totally different if you told your sister about 501 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: this guy that you're madly in love with and things 502 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: didn't end well and then the sister did the bitch 503 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: move and when when after this guy she wasn't even aware. 504 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: Heidi is saying that her sister Jessica became aware and 505 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: they weren't even boyfriend and girlfriend at that stage, so 506 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: she should have just gone like fuck off, god mate. 507 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: But the guy didn't even know either. See. I feel 508 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: like there's more to this story. I feel like we're 509 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: not hearing everything. There must be some like jealousy, Like 510 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: there's obviously jealousy between the sisters. Has something else that's 511 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: gone down? I'm assuming that Heidi hasn't moved on, you 512 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it's tween ten years, Does 513 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: Heidi have a new partner. I don't think she has 514 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: a new partner. I mean also, like it would have 515 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: been different if Heidi seriously dated guy like they were 516 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: dating for a few years or so, but they literally 517 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: dated for three weeks. I've actually heard this a lot, 518 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: where people end up marrying someone that their siblings have dated. 519 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: And I just was so weird, Like can you imagine 520 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: being at family dinner and you're like, I used to 521 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: date like my sister's husband. Like how weird? Who My 522 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: mum was telling us that one of Nana's relatives there 523 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: were two sisters and one was married, and the one 524 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: that was married sadly passed away, and then the one 525 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: that survived ended up remarrying the sister's husband. That's fucking weird. 526 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: I think that happened a lot like this was a 527 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: very long remember like what one hundred years ago? I 528 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: mean on a more recent level, this isn't a sister 529 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: but a friend. But I dated this guy who was 530 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: literally seen to do the rounds of all of the 531 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: different newsrooms. And I told a new friend I used 532 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: to date him, actually did dat him for three weeks. 533 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: She then got with him. See, I think that's a 534 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: dog move in this respect. If you're aware, well, I 535 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: think there has to be a discussion. Like if I 536 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: was the girl in this instance, Sophie that dogged you, 537 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: I would have been like, oh, Sophie, do you mind 538 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: if I go out with him, and if you said, 539 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: I do mine though, can you? No, you can't. But 540 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: if she said that's fine, then you've got to move 541 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: on to play a devil's advocate. Was it really worth 542 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: it for Jessica to lose the relationship with her sister 543 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: if she was only in the early stages of this 544 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: relationship with this guy, it sounds like they weren't even 545 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: close to begin with. The whole thing is though she 546 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: ended up marrying this guy, so whether they were official 547 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: or not, they obviously had a lot in common, the 548 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: fact that they're now ten years on, they've got three 549 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: kid They also both studied law together. How embarrassing would 550 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: it be to actually apologize? Because if I was Heidi, 551 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't want to see the sister and the 552 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: new partner because imagine this guy, he's probably like, this 553 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: girl's a nut. I literally dated her for three weeks 554 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: and she's caused his whole ten year family feud over it. 555 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: How would you guys feel if, like I, if I 556 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: married someone that you had dated before, Like, would that 557 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: be a no? No? See, We've had We've had my 558 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: relative date my boyfriend's relative, and I just think it 559 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: all gets very messy. Yeah, I think it's an extra 560 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: awkward element considering that we're identical triplets because these sisters, 561 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean apparently they don't even look alike, but it 562 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: would be awkward. It's like you look the same, so 563 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: but even that with these sisters, it'd be like, you 564 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: find my sister attractive and you may or may not 565 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: have had sex with her and kissed her, Like you know, 566 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: how did the family get involved? Like I mean, if 567 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: we told our dad he couldn't give two ships, he'd 568 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: just be like, oh hear about this. Sounds like this 569 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: family is very dysfunctional. Well, I think that is all 570 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: we have time for, thank you. I mean, it's just finishing. 571 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: By A. Fredo. This episode was recorded on the traditional 572 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We 573 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: pay respect to Elder's past and present