1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, and yoga teacher, join me as 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: we get to know these guests and learn about how 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: their failures have ultimately shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: Failing with Lola Berry. Gooda, it's lolls here now. 6 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: This next guest, she's next level. 7 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: Her name is Jackie Bell and she is an ultra 8 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: marathon runner, so that means she does ultra marathons. 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: A regular marathon is like forty. 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: Three kilometers or something along those lines, and ultra marathon 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: is like two hundred and fifty kilometers. 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: She just did one in New Zealand. 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: That was three hundred and twenty three kilometers in one race. 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Jackie is the youngest person in the world to complete 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: ultra marathons on all seven continents in one year. Jackie's 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: also a Jaybird athlete. That means that they kind of 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: sponsor and they've made all these epic videos that you 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: can find on YouTube, and trust me, you'll go down 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: this rabbit hole and watch her running through this incredible terrain. 20 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: This chick'sad her battles. She opens up about mental health. 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: Jackie is refreshingly real deal. She's a Queenslander and she 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: loves what she does. I hope you enjoy this episode 23 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: with Jackie Bow. This guest freaking excites me. My headphones 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 2: on plogged in. I just realized, now. 25 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: You're perf there can you hear it? Off it? And 26 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: now I'm going to keep that little bit in. I 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: don't like it. 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: Matchow my boyfriend who edits this, Matt who will be like, Lola, 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: I cut it, I cut the fat. 30 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you got to know that it's hard to 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: do this stuff. 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: Okay, this guest, Jackie Bow, mate, you are frigging incredible. 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: You are an endurance runner, an ultra marathon runner, and 34 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: please correct me because you've from what I can gather, 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: you've set an f ton of records. So like the 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: youngest person in the world to complete ultra marathons on 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: all seven continents? 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: You are correct? 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: You are amazing and are you twenty four years old? 41 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Four year? 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: Way to make me feel I'm ten years older, then 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: you mate, way to make me feel like an underachiever. 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: I didn't know that, so it's fine. 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: Wow, I've just shared that. I'm so you're from Brizzy. 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a theory, and I apologize to any 47 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: other people that don't live in Queensland. I think Queenslanders 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: are generally and Perth people are the most chill, like real, aussy, 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: lovely kind of people like Sinney people kind of on 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: a mission and I love that too. Yeah, and Melbourne 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: people are like super creative but also kind of like 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: go get it, like it's this weird. 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: I actually agree, yeah, kind of like all right, let's 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: just go do it. 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you kind of like what you see is 56 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: what you get? 57 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, for sure. 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: Oh man, Okay, your story is one so that I 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: have my phone yet. I usually don't have phone in studio, 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: but we are both on this incredible time crunch and 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: it's actually a miracle that we're. 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: You flew in this morning, Yeah, I'm flew in like 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: an hour or two. 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: Ago, snuck in some bricky with your bro and then 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: met me here. We're gonna pump this out and then 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: you've got tally tomorrow. 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: That's one word for TV mate. 68 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: You don't start no, it's it's been a whirl win 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: since it was only a week here. 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: I got home from San Francisco a. 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Serious yeah, yeah, far out and that's the thing. So 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: this is where I got really you know, as I said, 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: are you serious here? He popped up on my phone. 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: That's the thing that kind of got me with you. 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: I was looking at your timelines, all this stuff you've done, 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, okay, great. I was like, okay, 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: I'm literally made a list of all these places that 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: you'd been to. I was like, okay, so she's done 79 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: the four deserts Grand Slam, she's done Alps to Ocean. 80 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: But now I was like, then I'm like fire and 81 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: ice in Iceland. Yeah, so can you explain just for 82 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: listeners out there that are like four days a Grand Slam? 83 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: Like not obviously we're not talking about this train open here, 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: Like give us a little bit of a taste of 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: what that involves. Because then I started looking up kilometers 86 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: that you run and it's like one was two hundred 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: and fifty other one was three hundred and. 88 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Twenty three kilometers in New Zealand. Am I hitting the 89 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: right kind of ballpark? 90 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: You? 91 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: Ah? 92 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: So put that into perspective. I always explain it to people. 94 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: Do you ever wear a watch and you're like, oh 95 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: my god, I want to hit ten thousand steps today, yes, yeah, okay, yes, 96 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: So in these races on the long day, I'll do 97 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: sometimes one hundred and twenty thousand steps. 98 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: In one day. 99 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: So on average, in one of these weeks, I'll do 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: maybe four hundred and twenty thousand plus steps. 101 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: So that kind of. 102 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: Like gives you a bit of an understanding because kilometers, 103 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: you're just like, again, that's a lot of kilometers, you know. 104 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: But mate, I go for like a run in the morning, 105 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, three k good job, lot sneaky. 106 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Like, or I'll be like I'll just go for a time, 107 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: like I'll just go for a twenty minute little jog. 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: And then I was reading this and when I read 109 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: like three hundred and twenty three kilometers, I was like, 110 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 2: think you might be going a bit easy on yourself. 111 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: Their lulls. 112 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: So explain to me, like, so you just you got 113 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: back a week ago from Sam Fran but like explained me, 114 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: like just so people can understand, like what and I'm 115 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: sure that they're all completely different, but like, what does 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: a competition involved in what's a day? Like souse I 117 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: read you can be like make seven days straight in 118 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: antarctica or something, and it's like it's like you're literally 119 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: running and moving all day long and you only rest 120 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: at nighttime. 121 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: So the way it works is they're called multi stage 122 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 4: old marathons, and you run approximately a marathon a day, 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: so about forty kilometers to fifty kilometers a day, it 124 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: depends on the course. And then on day usually three 125 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: or four, they make you do a double marathon, so 126 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 4: you do it anywhere from eighty to ninety k How 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: do you. 128 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: Sorry to ask about pooing, but how do you eat? 129 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Pooh and sleep? 130 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: So you carry everything on your back for the week, 131 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: so all your food, clothes and everything, but you only 132 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: wear like one pair of clothes anyway. Yeah, so your 133 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: pack late in the race when it was thirteen kilos, 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: which is heavy, and then as I got better at 135 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: packing my gear and more efficient and minimalistic, it's now 136 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 4: about seven kilos. 137 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 138 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: And so eating wise, you wake up of the morning 139 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: at about I don't know, four or five am, depending 140 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 4: on the day, and usually have some oats and water. 141 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: I hate oats now after doing so many races, so 142 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: I just eat straight peanut butter for breakfast. Don't know 143 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: about the nuditional benefits. 144 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: But weeaking fat, protein and calories, so you get petting 145 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: good energy. 146 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: And then you everyone starts at eight am. 147 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 4: You all starts a group and you kick off together 148 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: and it's a race, so it's like go and then 149 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: you know you can complete the day in five hours 150 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: or some of the back of the pack, you're completing 151 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: it in maybe ten hours. You rock up to camp 152 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: and face it up your ten for you, which is good, 153 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: and then you fall a sleep on the ground with 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: like seven eight other people around you in a. 155 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: My small little smelly tent. 156 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Well so happy, so you may see you like do 157 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: your crazy hours in the day. You get home and 158 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: they're not so sorry to camp. What do you eat 159 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: for dinner? 160 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: So then during the day while I'm running, that's lunch, 161 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: and I'll just have like some cliff bars and tails 162 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: or something, and then I have like my true protein 163 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: endurance drink kind of thing, and then finish running, have 164 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: a protein shake, and then I'll wait a few hours 165 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: and then just have a dry meal, so like those 166 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: army meals kind of thing. 167 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: So it's just you add hot water to it which 168 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: they give. 169 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: You and then yeah, and you have to carry that 170 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: with you on your back. 171 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you go like you know, back home, you're like, oh, 172 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: that has five hundred calories. I probably won't get that, 173 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: But out there you're like, what has the most calories? 174 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: Totally you need energy that's like survival, and you're also burning. 175 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: In grazedible amount. 176 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: I had a one hundred k race last Saturday, and 177 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: I burnt eleven thousand calories. 178 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: Oh my, that one blew my mind. I was like, 179 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: oh my gosh. 180 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: After an event though, like, say you've finished that, So, 181 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: for example, that race you did last Saturday, do you 182 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: then kind of try and load after and before. 183 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: Like the night before I had pasta and some wedges 184 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: at the race because we stayed there overnight. 185 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: It was at the Sunshine Coast. 186 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: But wedges as in chippy yeah yeah yeah. 187 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: And but then like during the day of the run, 188 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: you just can't really stomach much. And then even the 189 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: next two days you just don't feel like much. Your 190 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: body's kind of like in. 191 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: This weird yeah, you don't really feel that hungry. 192 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: So and then after these big races, now I try 193 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: not to go too crazy because it's like a fad 194 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 4: diet for the week, and it's not good for you 195 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: to then go on you know stuff and excess, but 196 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: I'll definitely have a pizza or something when I finished. 197 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: Good. 198 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, of course. 199 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Man. Okay, So I. 200 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: Have watched these incredible videos of your YouTube, and it's 201 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: like you're in these incredible terrains all over the world, 202 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: might I add, And there was one when you're in 203 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: Antarctica and there's like a little penguin just chilling like 204 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: two meters from you, and yet you're just like in 205 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: the zone. And I think there were they cut to 206 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: you and you're like, it's just a mind game today, 207 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: and it's like one foot in front of the other. 208 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: I imagine. Also you're freezing, and then I see some. 209 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: Video of you like dunking your whole body and head 210 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: under the water like with icebergs. Pretty much, what can 211 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: you take me through that day? I know I'm going 212 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: off so many tangents here, but I just it's so 213 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: fascinating to me athletes, because I think you have a 214 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: completely different mindset or you've tapped into a different part 215 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: of your mind. 216 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. So Antarctica was quite different to the other races. 217 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: Like the other races, you start in one spot and 218 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: you don't go back to that same spot for the 219 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: rest of the week, whereas Antarctica you sleep on a boat, 220 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: but then the downfall as you go to a different 221 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: island every day, and the loops only sometimes one point 222 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: two k long, and you're doing that loop fourteen hours, 223 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: so you can be doing forty five plus loops of this, 224 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: you know, one. 225 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: K in a half k. 226 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: And so there's a video where I'm like, I feel 227 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: like I'm a hamster on a wheel right now. And 228 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: it was really hard to stay motivated. I had a 229 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: bit of a tantrum. I think I threw a pole 230 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 4: or something. 231 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Oh, mentally that would challenge you, yeah, big time. 232 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was just, yeah, it was really tough 233 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: in Antarctica with that, but like it looked as good 234 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: as pictures and videos kind of show. 235 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: It's just so pristine. 236 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: Does the air feel really clear there? 237 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like really fresh. 238 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: And it actually got hot one day though, really, yeah, 239 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: it got really hot one day. You take like your 240 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: little food in a little container kind of thing across 241 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: for the day and you put on this tarmac because 242 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: they're really specific about not contaminating Antarctica. And I had 243 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: a salami stick in there, a chocolate bar and some 244 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: goo kind of choose. Anyway, the sun melted my chocolate 245 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: so but then it refroze it. So I had a 246 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: salami stick stuck with chocolate and choose, and I just 247 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: went for itinating one go Na Like the first few 248 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: loops you were running in snow that goes up to 249 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: your hips, and as a team like that, I think 250 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 4: there was sixty of us or something. You meant to 251 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 4: run the first few loops and try and stomp down 252 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: all the soft snow. 253 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Whereas I was a bit. 254 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: Cheeky and I just kept stepping in the person in 255 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: front of me. Yeah, and I'm yelling out Jockie stop. 256 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, come on, oh. 257 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: I like it. You've got a cheeky story. 258 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, ye a little bit. 259 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: It's so good. Okay. 260 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: So all this stuff sounds so amazing to me, and 261 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear more stories about it. But 262 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: the stuff that's like, obviously you're all about challenging yourself 263 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: mentally and physically, but I think to challenge yourself physically, 264 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: you've got to have this mental stamina and strength and 265 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: tenacity that a lot of people would be like who 266 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: like and myself, I'm like, look. 267 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: At these videos of you going, oh my god, like 268 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: that's incredible. 269 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: But I know, I know that's not within my skill 270 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: set and also not within my strength. But you've been 271 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: through like you've had in this podcast is called fearlessly failing. 272 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: It's about failing kind of. 273 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: Like failing forward, like failing being like, yeah, I'm at 274 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: rock bottom bottom, I feel shit, but what can I do? 275 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: Like what's the good to come out of this? And 276 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: you've openly shared times when you've just been like. 277 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: Were you before we went on? You're like, and that 278 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: was my rock bottom? Like but and it sounds like 279 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: from what you said, it was like a year and 280 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: a half of just like black Yeah, yeah, for sure, 281 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: start at the start. Did it start with the addiction 282 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: to painkillers? 283 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: So going kind of way back, I played a really 284 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: high level of tennis. 285 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 4: Oh, I was a kid, and I tell this story 286 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: sometimes some of my talks. People like, how'd you get 287 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: into running? And I actually I'd be you know, thirteen fourteen, 288 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 4: and I didn't have pushy parents at all. 289 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: It was me going into my dad's room at four 290 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: am in the morning. I'd take me, take me to tennis, 291 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: and feed me balls for two hours. It wouldn't have 292 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: been better, and. 293 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: So he'd take me to the courts and I had 294 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: a real out of a tantrum though, and I drown 295 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: my racket, I'd swear, So he'd pick up the balls 296 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: and leave and I'm like, yeah, thirteen, And I'd have 297 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: to run seven k home from the tennis courts and 298 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: I'd go dying and I'd be like, this is the worst. 299 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: And I'd get home and my mum would be like, well, 300 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 4: now you're going. 301 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: To be late to school as well. 302 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: Great, So I kept having tantrums, so I had to 303 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: get faster at this run. So that was kind of 304 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: my first test taste to running, I guess. And then 305 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: on from that, like I was competing in tournaments. 306 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Every weekend, so I've always tennis tournaments. 307 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, tennis. 308 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I always was competing, and I love the competition 309 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: and kind of gave me that purpose and drive and everything. 310 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: And yeah, I'd wake up a morning, I've got tennis today. 311 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 4: And then kind of skipping ahead a few years, I 312 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: stopped playing and I just didn't really have that like 313 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: that outlet of competitiveness and that drive. So I found 314 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: myself I was playing different sports and whatnot, but then 315 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: I was playing AFL and. 316 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: That's when I started breaking bones. 317 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: I could see you do an AFL. Yeah, I love. 318 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm from Melbourne, so I love AFL forty. 319 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan. 320 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you go for? 321 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm a North Melbourne girl, but I'm also a little 322 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: bit brisonal line. 323 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: You have to be right, Yeah, that's like you can't 324 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: be from there and be like anyways, I digress. 325 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: So you got into AFL. 326 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 4: And then from there I broke five bones, broke a 327 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: wrist and there's like a photo montage me getting tackled 328 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: it breaking and yeah, it's snapped completely. Broke my wrist 329 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: and then first came back after that, he'll broke my 330 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: other wrist. Then I broke my foot playing tennis, and 331 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: then I broke two of my toes. 332 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: So mate and so and so. 333 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: You obviously to manage the pain after you've gone through 334 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: the healing of it. 335 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: They're giving you is it like oxy? What are they 336 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: giving here? 337 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 338 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: So the the bone breaks weren't like super simple. They 339 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: kept they put the cast on, and then my hand 340 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: kept swelling and stuff, and I was in agony. 341 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: They were bad. 342 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: So I'd go to the hospital and I didn't even 343 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: know but they were like giving me all these painkillers 344 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: and stuff, and that was kind of my first kind of. 345 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: Introduction to it, I guess. 346 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: And then later on down the line, a few months later, 347 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: I have my tonsils out, and yeah, they kind of 348 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: you know, pump you with endo and and stuff, and I. 349 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: Just got hooked. 350 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: I didn't really realize, but I just read my doctor 351 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: and be like, you know, I ran out of my scripts. 352 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: They just give you more. You just ring up again. 353 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: I lost it. They just give you more. 354 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: So it was it wasn't hard to get and I 355 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,359 Speaker 4: was still highly. 356 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: Functioning kind of thing. 357 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've met me already for probably half an hour, 358 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: and I'm like so high key already. 359 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, yeah, but you're a straight true to too, 360 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: like you just I can see that you would have 361 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: been like, hey, this feels good. 362 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to get more of this. 363 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: And also I think I've read where you said you're 364 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: almost changing that little. That little it's almost like a 365 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: fake euphoria that comes with it. 366 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 367 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. It was like completely for it. You know, 368 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: there's all your issues that just like see you later. 369 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: And then kind of when things got really bad, you know, 370 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: I started out, So I was taking party drugs and yeah, 371 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: just chasing that high. 372 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: I guess what kind of party drugs like ecstasy? 373 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah pretty much all that sort of stuff. 374 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: That's all right, we talk, we talk about all that 375 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: stuff on here. 376 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: No, I know, mate, I trust me, you're You're in 377 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: a very safe space into our xIC. 378 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: It really doesn't matter. Yeah. 379 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: We had the wonderful, this incredible spiritual healer on yesterday 380 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: and she is like a really successful spiritual healer and 381 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: hippie and stuff, and she's like, yeah, I'm an ex 382 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: heroin addict. Yeah yeah, incredible though, like blows your way 383 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: like you're just like, you know when you meet like 384 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: an alien, one of those kind of ones where you're 385 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: just like you're amazing. 386 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: And just owned it. 387 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 388 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: Like, and also I think I used to be DJ. 389 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend 390 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: I didn't party. 391 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 392 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Like, it's just okay. 393 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: So how long did that kind of dependency on the 394 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: painkillers go for? 395 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: So it was for about a year and then I 396 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: knew that like something, you know, things weren't good and 397 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 4: I just was after doing it so much, I wasn't 398 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: happy without it, and so that's when I was like, 399 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: all right, you know, I need to change something. 400 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: So I went to Barling do my yoga teacher training. 401 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: And I really had no intention of teaching yoga, but 402 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 4: I thought that it'd be a really good life course. 403 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: I've read in the thing it's like find your true 404 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: happiness again and that sounds so like corny. 405 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: But I was like, all right, I signed me out. 406 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: I want to do that. 407 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: So I signed up to that and my dad, I 408 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 4: think he knew that things were really bad, and he 409 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 4: went halves with me and paying for it because he's like, 410 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: you know, I understand you don't want to go to 411 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: see a psychologists or something, but he's like, go do this. 412 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: And when I was over there, I actually got a 413 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 4: job in a gym because I was training in a 414 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: gym every day and it was called Bali Fit and 415 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: it was this awesome, like really big gym. They were 416 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: in retreats there and everything, so it was like a 417 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 4: dream job. And then yeah, it was a week after 418 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: completing the yoga teach training, so you did two hundred 419 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 4: hours yep, two hundred hours a girl, and I was 420 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: like the baby of the course, and we did all 421 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: these meditation things and it was so funny seeing me 422 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 4: do everyone laugh because halftime I just fell asleep during it. 423 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: Easy to do, but I gave it a red hot crack, 424 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: you know. 425 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 426 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: They say yoga finds you too, So it's interesting that 427 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: yoga found you at that stage where you were like, 428 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: I don't really want to see a psych but I 429 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: know something's got to change. Yoga does find you when 430 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: for me, it found me when my values I wasn't 431 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: living my true values. 432 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 433 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: So a week up, so you finished a yoga teacher 434 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: training Love and Life and ps. Everybody that does yoga 435 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: teacher training is like, I'm never going to teach. 436 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: Next minute, teach have you taught? 437 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 4: I've taught like a few stretch classes and yeah yeah, 438 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: but I got a job working in a gym, like 439 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: more running the high intensity stuff. 440 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: That makes sense. 441 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, So a week after the yoga teacher training, 442 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: that's where you were in the YEP. 443 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: I was working the job. 444 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: Everything was great, and then I was just scootering dinner 445 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: to meet up with some friends and it was probably 446 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: about five pm and I was just in like brow, 447 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: which is right next to Chengu and scootering along, and 448 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 4: I had a little handbag across my waist, and then 449 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: these two Balinese guys were scootering beside me, and I 450 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: felt kind of a tug on my handbag and then yeah, 451 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 4: the third tug, everything. 452 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: Just kind of pointed because it was across your body. 453 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: So when they tugged the handbag, you went flying as well. 454 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: I went with it. So did they stop and help 455 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: you or were you just like. 456 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: Oh, they they stole it on purpose. They were like 457 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: after my But did they get it off you? It snapped? 458 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so it just snacked completely and then I 459 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: don't know, they took off with it. 460 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 3: They on my phone and like twenty dollars or something. 461 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: Buggers and then you went rolling. 462 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so I went. I noticed what happened. 463 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: But I was then transported between five different hospitals over 464 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: ten hours because. 465 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: They thought I had bleeding for brain and. 466 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 4: Like they didn't have an ICU and like brain scam 467 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: machine all the same hospital, so I kept transferring me. 468 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so how how long did that? So there was that? 469 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: How long were they transferring for with those five hospitals? 470 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: It was like over ten hours. 471 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, just kind of like, yeah, freaking out 472 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: from each mine and brain bleed. 473 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: I was completely out of it. 474 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 4: At one hospital, I was running around and I was like, 475 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: let me see myself in the mirror, because I think 476 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: at that point I knew something was pretty wrong. And 477 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: I think I saw myself in the mirror and I 478 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: was like, holy shit, like this had you called your 479 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: parents at this day? So by the time I like 480 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: this was happening, it would have been midnight. And I 481 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 4: remember like I thought that was stealing my organs as 482 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: well at one point, and I was like I'm not 483 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: a dramatic person, but I was. 484 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: Completely out of it. Yeah, and you bally not mix it. 485 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: That's Mexico exactly. 486 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, holy craph. So then they're still 487 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: scary because it's third world. 488 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 489 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 4: And then so I had someone's phone and I was 490 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: just on their Facebook and I was messaging a few 491 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: people in in actual Bali and I was like help me, 492 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: like I'm in a hospital and the people who are 493 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: messaging never have their phone on them. 494 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: So I was a dumb movie. But then I think 495 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: some people. 496 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: Wrote in the Chengu community page, like this girl Jackie 497 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: Bell or this girl on this scoter have an accent, 498 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 4: and then some people started to put together and great. 499 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: After about twelve hours, friends were at the hospital. Oh 500 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: epic done the yoga teacher training with rreat. 501 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's nothing worse than being and I can 502 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 2: I can hear and feel you're like fiercely independent, but 503 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: there's nothing worse than like feeling helpless and when you 504 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: know you need help whether you like it or not, 505 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: and being like, oh, I'm in another country. 506 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: It's not Western, no. 507 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: You know, and so you do like like I have 508 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: a mean to Balinese hospital, a lot of my family have, 509 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: and they're just like probably you wouldn't compare it to 510 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: when I was a hospital right. 511 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: Now, and like I was, I was in all sorts 512 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 3: to day on. 513 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 4: They were trying to clean out my wounds while I 514 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 4: was awake, and I was like passing out and then 515 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: laughing and then crying, and then they realized that like 516 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: they had to do surgery because you just possibly I 517 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: had so many open wounds over my whole Oh my god. 518 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: So my friend's touturing my parents about like we need 519 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 4: credit card details, like they're not gonna they wouldn't do 520 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: anything to me until they had money. 521 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: So I think that I had to pay like five 522 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: grand straight up. No. 523 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it ended up being about thirty thousand dollars 524 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: in medical. 525 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: Fees in BALI. Yeah, could you get me that bad? 526 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: No? 527 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: I had holiday insurance for that yoga course, and then 528 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 4: I was there on my first week and I was like, oh, 529 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: it's fine, I'll look at residency insurance. 530 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: You know this week or whatever. I've just been talking 531 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: to people about it. 532 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: And you're going to live there. Were you going to stay? 533 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? I was going to stay. I got this job 534 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: in this last yo. 535 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 536 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, see you later. 537 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 4: Thirty thousand dollars and no, yeah, it took them about 538 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 4: six seven hours in surgery to like clean all my 539 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 4: wounds out and everything. 540 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: Did your parents come over or anything? 541 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: I told them not to because I had about twenty 542 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 4: thirty friends there from the oak course that were taking 543 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: good care of me, and they were actually they driven 544 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 4: two days down south in Australia and they were are 545 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: two days into a houseboat trip with their friends. So 546 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: they're so and so they ended up getting off the boat, 547 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: which was meant to be like fifteen day houseboat trip. 548 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 4: See you later on the holiday, they had to get 549 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: like a taxi back to their car and. 550 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: Then they drove home. 551 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: So I screwed up that trip for them. And yeah, 552 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: they were going to come over, but I was like, 553 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: there's nothing you can do. I mean, good hands, now. 554 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: How strong I'd be like, mom, dad, get here now. 555 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: I don't need friends. But it sounds that you had 556 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: such good support. 557 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 2: How long, because often when you have that kind of 558 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: an injury, you can't fly. 559 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: Back straight away. 560 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: No. 561 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: I think I was in hospital for about ten days 562 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: and then I was finally fit to fly home, like 563 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: just and they had to like wheel chair me through 564 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 4: and everything, and it's the worst people at the airport though. 565 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 4: Some people were like, oh, you have a balie actually 566 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: on your scooter and I'm. 567 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Like, uh, you off, yeah, but it's yeah. 568 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: I got pulled off. 569 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but yeah I could fly business class for 570 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: the first time. 571 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: The silver lining mate couldn't really eat any of the 572 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: nice food because my face was all puffy. So No, 573 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: did it feel good to come home though, just be 574 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: grounded around your fam? 575 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 576 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: It was really nice to come home and kind of 577 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: be like, yeah, I'm alive, Like it was. 578 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty scary. 579 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: So you've come home, you've got Yes, you're a live, 580 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: but I imagine you're in a lot of pain. So 581 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: did the pain killer stuff happen again? Did that kind 582 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: of re re rub. 583 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: Its head again? 584 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: So I came home and then I recovered it home 585 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: and everything, and actually wasn't on any real strong painkillers 586 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 4: after this. And then after about a month of recovering, 587 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: I went back to Bali and was working in my job. 588 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 4: They held my job, oh wow, and I was like, 589 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: you know what, I'll go back because I loved it 590 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 4: there and everything, and I didn't want, you know, this 591 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: accident to kind of ruin Bali for me or tarnish 592 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: that experience. 593 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: Also, you don't take the word no. I imagine like 594 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: someone's like you can't do that. I've got a quote 595 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: from you. 596 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: It's like it's like as soon as someone gives me resistance, 597 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I'm going to do it. So 598 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: like Bally gave me a bit of resistance, and you're like, 599 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: i'll see you in a month, I'll see you soon exactly. 600 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 4: And then I was I was doing pretty good, and 601 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: it was I lived in Bali. 602 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: For I think another eight months. 603 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: Then and I came back home and but I don't 604 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: think I fully kind of realized what had happened in 605 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: the accident, like a few different things that were going 606 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: on with me. I kind of just swept under the 607 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 4: rug sort of thing, like mental health kind of stuff. Yeah. 608 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: I was kind of just figuring a few things out 609 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: in my life and whatnot. 610 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: And came home and that's when I really hit rock bottom. 611 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: I was off the rails. I was back into partying. 612 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: I was I. 613 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 4: Got fired from a job, and why are they fight? 614 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 4: I was just partying and we were partying with people 615 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 4: from like at the gym, and they were all partying 616 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 4: as well. But I was down in Melbourne, and but 617 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 4: I just like couldn't really hold myself with this sort 618 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: of stuff as well as they could. And yes, I 619 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: ended up getting fired from a job, and like it 620 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: was impacting my friendships and my family were like what 621 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: is going on with you? And and that's when I 622 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: was like, holy crap, Like I don't know where I'm 623 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: going to end up unless I make a big change. 624 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: And that's kind of when the ultramarathons start off. 625 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: And then you turn this like like I feel like 626 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: you're someone that always needs to have something that's like 627 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: occupying you. 628 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: And I mean that in the best way. I think, 629 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: like a types kind of need that. 630 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like you've turned this trait of yourself 631 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: into such a positive where you're like, all right, I'm 632 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: going to do something that is really challenging. Most people 633 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: in the world can't do it, and I'm going to 634 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: give it my fucking all. Yeah, it's pretty empowering. 635 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been like a crazy two years to think 636 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: of the kind of the turnaround. And yeah, it's just 637 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: kind of like a little thing. Like I said, people like, well, 638 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: how could I overhaul or you know all. 639 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: That sort of stuff, and I said, well, I just 640 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 4: started running a little bit each and every day and 641 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: now it's something I do and that a little bit 642 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: of running each day kind of just helps me in 643 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: every aspect of my life. 644 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 645 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: I saw an interview with you and you're like, I 646 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: do it mainly for your mental health. Yeah, because it 647 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: clears your mind, like you feel really, I was on 648 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: the phone to my boyfriend this morning. I was like, oh, 649 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: I've only done one run. Well I've been in Sydney, 650 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like it just sets you up for the day. 651 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: It clears your mind. You mentally like, tick, I want 652 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: to be healthy today, I've done that. 653 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: I've moved my body, if sweat like you've got the endorphins. 654 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: It's so powerful. 655 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: It really is free. 656 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can just see nature, okay. 657 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 3: And I never thought it was going to turn into this, 658 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: you know, I signed up. 659 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 4: I was originally just going to do one multi stage 660 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: across Australia, and then I started researching more and then 661 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, this is raising the 662 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: planet thing. 663 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: And then three days it's in. I was like, I 664 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: really enjoy this. 665 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 4: And then next minute I've done seven of them and 666 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 4: I just can't stop thinking about running. 667 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 3: I just want to run all the time. 668 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: And you're not even twenty five of you. It's probably 669 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: when do you turn twenty. 670 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: Five December between nineth so coming up? 671 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: Not that so well, what does that make you a 672 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: Capricorn or does that make it? I love capricorns. My 673 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: brother's a capricorn. 674 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: They go get as. 675 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: He actually just graduated yesterday as a Navy clearance diybar 676 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: like that same you know that same like tenacity where 677 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: you're just like they keep him doing pool drills in 678 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: the middle of the night, yeah, and be like get 679 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: an ocean now, like like crazy. 680 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm led to say that, but 681 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: I think it's part of the training. 682 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 3: It's interesting. 683 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 4: I actually got a question last night because I always 684 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 4: say to people I didn't want to turn this, like 685 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: my addiction into another addiction, and I don't. In my eyes, 686 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: I haven't. I have like a balance with everything. But 687 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 4: I think because I came from that tennis background of 688 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: you know, thirty forty hours a week at tennis, the running, 689 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: you know, thirty hours a week, that isn't like an 690 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: addiction for me. That is just what I'm always used 691 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: to in my life. 692 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: Also, I think passion and addiction are two different things. 693 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: I agree, and I think that you're passionate about what 694 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: you do. I think addiction is when it does affect 695 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: your how like it does affect your and like obviously, 696 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: and I was thinking about this with you, like as 697 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: soon as we confirm this interview, I got so excited 698 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: and I was like, is it hard to hold down 699 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: a relationship? 700 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: I've been single for five years? 701 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, yea yeah, no, no no. 702 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: And I had a little stock on an instac because 703 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: I was trying to figure it out and be like, 704 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: I've got to suss it. But I imagine like and it's 705 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: not out of it being an addiction, but I mean 706 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: it's out like you probably will have to find someone 707 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: that is also passionate about something or at least gets it. 708 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: Yes, Like back before it was more just because I 709 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: was traveling and like all that sort of stuff that 710 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: now I was changing my best friendly on that. I 711 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: was like, it's really hard to find someone that kind 712 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 4: of gets what I do. 713 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: Like I'll go on a date. 714 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: And it'll be like, oh, so you work at the 715 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 4: gym for five hours a week. 716 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: What else do you do? Yeah, like a run a 717 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: little bit, you know, and. 718 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: You're but own it. 719 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: You got your I'm ten years older than you can 720 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: give you some like friendly like older per advice. 721 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: Fucking own it, mate. 722 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: Like I even was an event last week and I 723 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: got invite to a mummy bloger event, which I'm not 724 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: really a mummy blog I don't have kids, I'm not pregnant, 725 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: like I don't and I didn't know anyone, but I 726 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: love this fashion label that the event was for, and 727 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: this mumming bloger came up to me and She's just like, so, 728 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: who are you. 729 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: And what do you do? 730 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: And I was like, ah, I just teach a bit 731 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: of yoga. So I did the exact same thing that 732 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: you do. And I'd already kind of like talk myself down. 733 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: I was like, idiot, Lola, I'm like, you've read ten 734 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: friggin books, Like, why can't you just be like I'm a. 735 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: Cool person to Yeah, and I don't. 736 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: I think it's an Australian thing, like it's hard to be. 737 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: Like, oh, I would never say to something like I'm 738 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 4: the youngest person run across every continent in the world. 739 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: I'd be like, you're a ditchbag jack. You do not 740 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: say that, no, but you could be. 741 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: You could be like, I'm a professional ultra marathon runner. 742 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: That is my job title, you know, Like I think 743 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: there's no harm in doing and there's no eargoing that. 744 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: And I think that's where again, it comes from a 745 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: passion thing. And it's like, I'm sure if anyone meets 746 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: you within about three minutes, we're gonna get talking about 747 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: your passion. Well, I know I want to know what 748 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: people tick. Yeah, so I do want to know more 749 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: about this. I know we don't have you for loads 750 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: of time, and I'm like, there's so much stuff that 751 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh, you're my kind of human. 752 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Even when I saw you, I was like, com. 753 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: In mate, husky voice crew, I know right, I loved it. 754 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: So did you figure out that I had a husky 755 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: voice or did your manager tell you the mentioned it? 756 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because yeah, I said something about my husky voice 757 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 4: and she was like, no, I think she's got a. 758 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: Little bit of a woking Yeah. Yeah. 759 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: I remember I got Laren Jyda's once and people like, 760 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: you've got the sexy voice, like the sexy call up 761 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: so in at night time, and I was like, I 762 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: don't think that that's a compliment. There's another quote I 763 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: found from you. I can't do anything halfheartedly. I can't 764 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: do anything that doesn't. 765 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Mean something to me. And I love it. And I'm guessing, 766 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: is that why you do what you do? Is that 767 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: why you're doing this? Yeah? 768 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: I guess. 769 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: Like I can work in jobs and different things, but 770 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: I I work harder and better in my job if 771 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 4: I really like the owners and the managers and I 772 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: like the gym and and if I have some sort 773 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: of connection to it, or I was going to. 774 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: Say that comes down to connection. Yeah. 775 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: So like I work at a gym and it's just 776 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: like any other gym kind of thing. But I really 777 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 4: like my boss and the owners. I think they're great people. 778 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: So I care about rocking up to work and doing 779 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: my best. Yeah, And so that's kind of what I 780 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: mean by that is, you know, like if I do something, 781 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: I want to do it well, I'm not going to 782 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 4: rock up and you know, do a bad job totally. 783 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: And like if I'm doing a. 784 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: Speaking gig and I'm getting paid for it really well, 785 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 4: or if I'm doing a speaking gig and I'm doing 786 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 4: it for free, I am doing it because it means 787 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 4: something to me, and I'll do the same level of 788 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: work for either one kind. 789 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: Of Oh you're a born speaker man, You're doing speaking 790 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: gigs for the rest of for the rest of your life. 791 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: I put money on. 792 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: So I'm really fascinated to know, like a day in 793 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: the life for you one competition time, So I imagine that 794 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: involves a shit ton of running training. So like the 795 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 2: lead up, like if you've got something, I imagine you're 796 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: already focused on something. Is there something coming up for you? 797 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: Actually, this is. 798 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 4: The first time that I'm kind of taking a two 799 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: second break, like I arrived home. 800 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: I had the Grand Canyon race three weeks ago that finished. 801 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: That was two three k. 802 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing Grand Canyon mate, It's on my bucket lost. 803 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: And it was probably the best I've ever raced, Like 804 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: Iceland and the Grand Canyon. 805 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: I finally was injury free. So through the other five 806 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: I was pretty badly injured. 807 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so your achilles heel that blows up. 808 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 4: Around my planterctured my plan of fascia. 809 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: So it was brutal. 810 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 4: And so to race in these last two with no 811 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: injuries and actually be able to give it a good crack, 812 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 4: I yeah, I really surprised myself and I was so 813 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: stoked and I really enjoyed it. 814 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: So so so if you were say coming, so you're 815 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: going to do, you're planning on any competitions the next year. 816 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: So then yeah, like san Fran got back, and then 817 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 4: a day later, I raced in the one hundred k 818 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: race as you do, just a cheeky hundred just I'd 819 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 4: never done a single stage hundred k, so I wanted 820 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: to see how it went. And yeah, next year I'm 821 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: doing another. I'm doing the New Zealand three and twenty three. 822 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: K again and a part of New Zealand. 823 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 4: It's the South Island, so it's mount cooked to the ocean. 824 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: So it's going to be like effing's stunning. 825 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. 826 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 4: I've always said I would never do an event twice, 827 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 4: but this one is my first exception because it was 828 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 4: just unreally beautiful and I did it injured last time. 829 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping to go back and kind of do really. 830 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and enjoy it, not worrying about your pain 831 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So yeah, So my question is, 832 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: what is the day in life when you're prepping so 833 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: fast forward to next year when you'll be like the 834 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 2: lead up, like it's like the month's kind of leading 835 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: up to New Zealand competition. It's the way you describe 836 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: is and it's like you get up at five, have 837 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: your oats and water, you're literally moving the body until 838 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: you fall fall in a heap in base camp. Yeah, 839 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: exact pretty much, and then just a normal day. So 840 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: now you've got this break like it's Christmas times when 841 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: your birthday all this stuff like, so maybe, yeah, give 842 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 2: me a day in the life when you're prepping for something, 843 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: and then day to life I've written here normally normal. 844 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 4: Normally so day in the life, normal day in the life, well, 845 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: normal day in the. 846 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: Life and prepping day in the life are kind of 847 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: the same. I will always. 848 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 4: Kind of keep training just because I love it. And 849 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 4: so I've been back at the gym working this week. 850 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 4: So I get up at about four ten am and 851 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 4: four ten yeah, four ten wow. It's a little bit 852 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 4: of a shock to the system. 853 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: And then I work. You know, there's two gym classes, 854 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: so I work. 855 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 4: I'm done by just for eight am, and then I'll 856 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 4: usually train for an hour or two, maybe on the 857 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 4: exercise bike. Then I might have a meeting or do 858 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 4: some emails. Then I'll probably go and do some recovery. 859 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 4: So I'll sit in the sauna, in the infrared sauna 860 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 4: or the sober love them. 861 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: And because you can watch Netflix too. 862 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: I haven't seen the Netflix. Well, I can take my 863 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 3: laptop or something. 864 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Do you ever go to Melbourne? 865 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 2: Yes, all in a Sydney you'll hear a lot look 866 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 2: up Nimbus and Co and Bondi and do you literally 867 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: sit there they give you so the speakers are hooked 868 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: up to the sauna and you pick on Netflix before 869 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: you go in what you want and then it just 870 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: sits in the drawer of the sauna, but on the 871 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 2: outside so it doesn't f up. 872 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: That sounds really nice. 873 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the forty five minutes boom. 874 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: I feel like it's mental training for me though, sitting 875 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 4: there with sweat, just with myself for forty five minutes. 876 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's it sounds more fun. 877 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll admit when I discovered the Netflix hack, 878 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: I didn't turn back. 879 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I don't think I would either. 880 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: No, No, it's so good. Okay, soorry. So you have 881 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: them recovery in the sawn. 882 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: Recovery, yeah, so train usually emails, have some food and 883 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 4: then maybe some recovery, and then I'll probably try and 884 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 4: train again for an hour or two in the afternoon, okay, 885 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 4: and then usually back to work again from five pm 886 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 4: to eight pm. But wow, I'm struggling with the when 887 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 4: I work, like the mornings and the nights or then 888 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 4: the night and then the next morning. If I work 889 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 4: till eight eight thirty, I don't get home and wind 890 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 4: down and get to bed till eleven o'clock back up 891 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 4: at four, and. 892 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: So I get sick really easily. Yeah, because my body is. 893 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 4: In recovery, and so I'm kind of easing off on 894 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 4: the gym shifts a bit because it kind of holds 895 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 4: me back from doing the other stuff more and training 896 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 4: more and whatnot. You know, it's only a two and 897 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 4: a half hour shift, but it's it's yeah, a lot 898 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: of energy. A lot of pets understand. But people who 899 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 4: aren't trainers are like, oh, certainly two and a half 900 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 4: hour shift. 901 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, you need it. 902 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: Also, this is your career, yeah, you know, this is 903 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: your baby, like you need to feed it. 904 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 4: So it's a kind of a weird phase at the 905 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 4: moment between getting enough income from sponsorship and still working 906 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 4: at the gym a little bit because I do love 907 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 4: it and I love being around the people and everything 908 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: and the members, and then kind of yeah, just it's 909 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 4: a weird balancing act at the moment figuring out where 910 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:47,959 Speaker 4: I'm at with things. 911 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: And you'll totally find that balance and you find even 912 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: with me, like I know, for what I do, it 913 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: dies December January, so I sometimes pick up some yoga teaching, 914 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: so you just I just become really, like my manager 915 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: calls it, really nimble and kind of. 916 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: Like flexible with it. 917 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: So I'm just like, Okay, I'm in a phase where, 918 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: like today someone said to me, oh, can I come 919 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: and see you in clinic because an intritions. I couldn't 920 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 2: tell you the last time I practiced in clinic because 921 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: I just don't. I'm not in one spot long enough. Yeah, 922 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: so just go with it, Like and there'll be times 923 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: where you've got like a month where you're like, hey, 924 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: it's like quietened down for me, I can work, and 925 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: then I can you can almost make your training kind 926 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: of like not malleable to work, but you can kind 927 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: of like make the two work together. 928 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 3: That's kind of yeah, where I'm at at the moment. Yeah, Yeah, 929 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 3: it's fine, it's good. Yeah. 930 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 4: And I guess with my birthday and stuff coming up 931 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 4: weirdly enough, like I. 932 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 3: Had I had a really fun night out in Vegas 933 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: after the Green. 934 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: Came Grace because I think it's awesome. I've not been yet. 935 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 3: We have like a classic like wild night out. Amazing. 936 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only way to do it right. 937 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 4: So we're like piecing everything together the next day. And 938 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: I hadn't had a big night like that in months, 939 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: so it was so fun. And but honestly, like I 940 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 4: love running so much right now, and I really want 941 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 4: to improve it. That that for me, like drinking less 942 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 4: is kind of just something that I just want to do. 943 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 3: And I don't feel like I'm giving anything up. 944 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 4: But I will be. I will be honest. I have 945 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 4: got a diet coke addiction right now. 946 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 3: No so bad? 947 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 4: Why no Bloody America did it to me? 948 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, artificial sweet it's better drink. 949 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: Real cokes are so bad, but like the real coat 950 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 2: is too sweet for me. There's a there's a really 951 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 2: cool company in Australia called Remedy. They're not a sponsor 952 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: and just telling you about them, and they've just brought 953 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: out a natural like healthy colar like Remedy Butcher. Yeah, 954 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: but their coal are our mate. 955 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 4: Butcher was my thing before I went away. So I 956 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 4: need to put down the diet coke and comeback. 957 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely it's not healthy. 958 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: So an artificial sweating it that can cross the blood 959 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: brain barrier, heaps of like brain like we're talking Parkinson's, 960 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: Alzheimer's tum it's crazy stuff. 961 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, put it down now, my friend. 962 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: Anything that says nine nine five, I'm not to get 963 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: nutrition and science on you. 964 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: But like no, please tell me. 965 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: I don't know when it started again. It's highly addictive. 966 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 3: I think it was when. 967 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 4: Everyone started drinking vodkas and champagnes around me. I was like, oh, 968 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 4: I'll get a diet coke and then during the desert 969 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 4: races on the rest day, they'll give you a treat 970 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 4: of a Coca Cola and it's just like, when you're 971 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 4: running that much, it's like the one thing you crave. 972 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why it makes sense. 973 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 2: It makes sense, but honestly, having the sugar is better 974 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: for you than having that, especially because your body would 975 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 2: be burning the sugar off like just look like straight energy. 976 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: So it's not such a bad thing. I can't believe 977 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: how fast our time to get the risk going one 978 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: last thing and it's two last things. 979 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: First thing out of everywhere you've been, and I feel 980 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: like New Zealand might be dancing. 981 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: Where's your favorite place you've been? 982 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 3: Grand Canyon? 983 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? 984 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Grand Canyon, the town of kannab And you know, 985 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 4: I've traveled a lot. I've been to Europe and everywhere, 986 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 4: and America was always at the bottom of my list. 987 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 4: I was like, it's just a bigger version of Australia 988 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 4: and it's just like whatever. 989 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: America's cool, Man. 990 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 4: So cool, and there's so much religion. I loved learning 991 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 4: about the religion. I was in Salt Lake City for 992 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 4: a bit, and you know, it's where I think the 993 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 4: highest amount of Mormons live. Yeah, I actually got to 994 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 4: meet some Latter day Saints and yeah, just the whole 995 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 4: religion thing, like I'm not religious myself, just fascinating, fascinating. 996 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 3: It's kind of like they. 997 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 2: Were anthropology and social human behavior, Like it's pretty cool 998 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: to learn about the way humans I think as well, 999 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: like being a public speaker, and also you're doing something 1000 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 2: that's extreme, like your human behavior is extreme. 1001 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: In a good way. 1002 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: So when you learn about religion, you're just learning about 1003 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: other people's belief systems. 1004 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool. 1005 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 1006 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: And America like knowing what works one person doesn't need 1007 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: to work for another. 1008 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1009 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: Sorry, I cut you off, America. 1010 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: Like you can be in I was in New York, 1011 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 4: and then I'm in Canab in Utah, and then I'm 1012 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 4: in Salt Lake City and then Las Vegas, and it's 1013 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 4: but they're also different. 1014 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 3: It's like you're going from a different country to the other. 1015 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: Oh Man so good, so my lucky. 1016 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 2: Last question I want to ask is just like you're 1017 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: so young, you're so successful, you're chasing your dreams, you're 1018 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: taking no prisoners along the way. 1019 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: You're just like. 1020 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 2: In a evading medicine, we would call you pitch. I'm 1021 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: quite pitch too, Yes, I know those terms. Have you 1022 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: been told you were pitter? 1023 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I can't remember. I think I was mainly pitch 1024 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 4: with a little. 1025 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,479 Speaker 3: Bit of something else. 1026 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: Well, either we're strong so it covers are strong or 1027 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: Varta is a flighty yeah. And when they get don't 1028 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: like win, I'm varta as well. Like I can't handle 1029 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: win dug at all. And like if I ever go 1030 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 2: on juice clans, I'm like, I'm just gonna meditate. 1031 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: I get really barter and like a very yeah is 1032 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: a fairy? 1033 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah interesting? 1034 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: I interesting? You your pitter like ninety nine percent? I'm strong? Yeah, Yeah, 1035 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: I love it. I love learning about it all. I 1036 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: could talk about it all freaking day. 1037 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 2: So anyone that's listening, that's just like either a little 1038 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: bit lost or like, I don't know what my goals are. 1039 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: Like you're twenty four, you've got your shit together, pretty young, 1040 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: You've had your lessons really young or your failure, so 1041 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 2: to speak. What would your advice be to someone that's 1042 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 2: just a. 1043 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: Bit like I think the issue is, and where I 1044 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 4: was stuck was for ages kind of I'd be brainstorming. 1045 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 4: I'd like, maybe I want to do this, maybe I 1046 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 4: want to do this, and I'd have all these ideas 1047 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 4: and then everyone around me, you know, I chat about 1048 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 4: with my parents and my friends or whatever, and they 1049 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 4: just come up with the reasons why you can't do it. 1050 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 4: You know, oh, I might try this job or whatever, 1051 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 4: and the yeah, but then you can't do it this 1052 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 4: then that all the negatives and stuff. And I think 1053 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 4: for me, I was like, well, one hundred percent no 1054 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 4: that I love running five k and I was like 1055 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 4: I like doing that every single day. So I kind 1056 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 4: of just dove in head first. And I wasn't like 1057 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 4: quitting my job or anything like that. So you don't 1058 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 4: need to like uphold your whole life. But whatever it 1059 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 4: is you kind of think could be your passion that 1060 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 4: you really want to do, like start doing a little 1061 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 4: bit of each day, and you know, like if you 1062 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 4: want to have an online business, which so many people 1063 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 4: want to do, but you know, it's like how can 1064 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 4: I do that? 1065 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: Everyone wants to do that. 1066 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,479 Speaker 4: But like, you know, you don't need to. You don't 1067 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 4: need to necessarily be competing with other people. Like, there's 1068 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 4: so many things you can do out there. So if 1069 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 4: it is that, and do an hour or two of 1070 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 4: it every single night and you don't know, it may work. 1071 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 4: So I would just say, start doing it. 1072 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: I love that. 1073 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: I love pretty much your messages, like find the thing 1074 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 2: you love and do it every day and do it. 1075 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't need to, yeah, quit your job 1076 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 3: or quit doing But like. 1077 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 4: I still I spend Everyone's like, oh, she just runs 1078 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 4: and lives her best life, but I spend hours every 1079 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 4: day emailing and like writing different things and figuring out 1080 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 4: what I'm doing. Yeah, So like there's all the behind 1081 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 4: the scenes stuff that you know people don't see, but yeah, 1082 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 4: just go and do it. 1083 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 3: I love it. 1084 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 2: You're incredible. You're such a champ for coming on and 1085 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: chatting with me. I could talk to you all day 1086 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: long and I cannot wait till our paths cross again. 1087 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 1088 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jack, you Bell. You're incredible. Fine. 1089 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 1090 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 2: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation 1091 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 2: on Instagram. I'm at yumo Berry. This potty my word 1092 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 2: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love 1093 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 2: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment and of 1094 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 2: course spread the love.