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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I am a lawyer and health coach,

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Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife, and dog mum. On the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health,

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Speaker 1: relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who

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Speaker 1: want to rise up to be the best version of themselves,

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Speaker 1: who have big dreams in who are willing to put

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Speaker 1: in the work to get there. I want to bring

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Speaker 1: you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself,

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Speaker 1: inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals.

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Speaker 1: Are you with me, girl friends, Let's rise and conquer.

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Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to another episode of the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast. Today, I have an amazing guest for you,

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Speaker 1: and her name is Brook Styles. Brook Styles is a

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Speaker 1: social media influencer, visionary, creative, and business owner. After experiencing

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Speaker 1: workplace bullying, Brook developed anxiety and as a result, she

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Speaker 1: started her own social media company so she'd never have

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Speaker 1: to work for anyone else. She's all about self love,

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Speaker 1: body positivity, and sticking it to the social media standards

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Speaker 1: of what beauty should look like. Today we chat about Instagram, first, reality,

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Speaker 1: self love, fake friends, what it means to be an influencer, daday,

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Speaker 1: and so much more. Brook has so many important messages

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Speaker 1: and wants to start a lot of important conversations. So

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to share her with you. I also

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Speaker 1: just wanted to say a big thank you. Last week,

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Speaker 1: me and Madeline from The Healthy Hustlers announced that we

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Speaker 1: are hitting the road and going on tour. We are

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Speaker 1: doing a live podcast event and the whole the whole

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Speaker 1: thing is about stepping into your power, realizing your potential

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Speaker 1: and taking inspired action and bold action, which you know

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Speaker 1: I'm all about that. And so basically we have made

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Speaker 1: this event where you come, there's a live podcast between

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Speaker 1: me and Madeline. We also have a panel of expert

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Speaker 1: guests who will help you, and then we also have

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Speaker 1: a collaborative workshop where we do journaling and we have

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Speaker 1: prompts and workbooks for you, and then you get fed breakfast,

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Speaker 1: you get to meet all the other like minded women

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Speaker 1: there who are all into the same things. And so

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Speaker 1: we launched this last week and already half the tickets

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Speaker 1: are sold and we're just so excited. Let me know

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Speaker 1: if you have any questions at all. I've been posting

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Speaker 1: it on all my social medias, So go to our

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Speaker 1: Instagram which is Rise and Conquer dot podcast. The link

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Speaker 1: is in the bi there. Otherwise you can go to

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Speaker 1: my Instagram which is just Georgie Stevenson. Let me know

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Speaker 1: if you have any questions, and let me know if

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Speaker 1: you buy a ticket, because I want to thank you personally,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just so excited to grow my girl gang

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Speaker 1: and meet you guys and just do it with my

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Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer community. Because if you guys love what

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Speaker 1: we were talking about, and if you guys are caring

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Speaker 1: about these conversations and these issues, like I say this

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Speaker 1: all the time, but I've found my people, so I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited. I just wanted to pop in and say that.

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Speaker 1: But let's get straight into the episode. Good morning, Brooke,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: No, that's absolutely my pleasure. I'm so excited for today.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some really good important topics.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that, I want to ask you,

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Speaker 1: as this is the Horizon Conquer podcast, what is something

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Speaker 1: like it can be big or small, that you are

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Speaker 2: This week's definitely a big week from I just came

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Speaker 2: Full of Love Club. I'm trying to organize another event

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Speaker 2: I'm just smashing work at this moment. Not too many

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Speaker 1: On with my old ones. Yep, just getting on top

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Speaker 1: of everything. Yes, yes, I feel you with that one.

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Speaker 1: Because we moved last week. It's like it's not even

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So those emails and stuff that you've been putting

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Speaker 1: sure you'll get it all sorted. So let's get into

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Speaker 1: uses you and doesn't make you feel good, but you

433
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: just like let that happen, then that's going to continue.

434
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: So unless you sort of stand up for yourself, you know,

435
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: set those boundaries, or you stop that toxic relationship, you

436
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: kind of you're doing it to yourself. Almost if that

437
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: makes sense.

438
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I definitely believe in that. I definitely believe

439
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: in the law of attraction like hew or Calmer. Let's say,

440
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: where like if you give off a bad vibe or

441
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: if you give off bad energy to people, that's what

442
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 2: you're going to attract back. So like it's it's all

443
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: the same. So as soon as you start cutting off

444
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: those toxic people and have a clearer mind or some

445
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 2: unfollowing people and have a clearer feed, like, you'll notice

446
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 2: a totally different change within yourself.

447
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent. And so this kind of leads

448
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: into my next question, which is great. And so as

449
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: a fellow content creator and social media influencer, I've noticed

450
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: like a huge shift in the meaning of the word influencer.

451
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: I feel like the word doesn't really mean what it

452
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: used to be. Have you sort of noticed the same

453
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: shift on social media?

454
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I was like, I saw this question

455
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: like in our little email. I was like, yes, I

456
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: was like, I hope she read one of my posts

457
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: that I put up.

458
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: But like, the.

459
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: Word influencer is so disconnected from its meaning. All these

460
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: people sorry.

461
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: That I did. This is why the questions coming up.

462
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: So this influencer game, Right, all these people that think

463
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: they're influencing, what are they actually influencing?

464
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: Though?

465
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: Are you influencing to make people feel better? Are you

466
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: influencing people to start whopping their hips? Like what are

467
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: you actually trying to influence? And it's just coming to

468
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: this point that it's like there's no influencers. There's people

469
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: out there putting out bad vibes and like they're kind

470
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: of putting out like a bad image for what a

471
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: girl should look up to, but like there's no one

472
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: actually influencing.

473
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: So they're influencing, but they're not necessarily influencing in a

474
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: way that is positive to someone's life.

475
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like and then there's this another group

476
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: of them that they're just kind of like running their

477
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: life and doing nothing and not really like putting any

478
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: value to what they're actually doing as an influencer. They're

479
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: kind of just like putting a heap of paid posts

480
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: up financially, like connecting that paid post to like a

481
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: reasoning behind what they are as a person or what

482
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: they're wanting to influence people. If you, I don't know

483
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: if that makes sense on your end.

484
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: It's hard because you know you have these accounts that

485
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily big, but they're about something really meaningful and

486
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: important and they're trying to make an influence and they're

487
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: trying to make a change, but they don't get the

488
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: exposure that they necessarily need and should. And then you've

489
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: got these like big Instagram accounts of like models or

490
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: just like people with the lux lifestyles and they just

491
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: like post an emoji or like constantly about their new

492
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: designer bag. And it's like, yeah, it's sort of hard

493
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: because we as consumers get wrapped up in the pretty

494
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: photos and the aesthetic, theeds and everything looking perfect, when

495
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: in reality that's not necessarily what we need in our lives,

496
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: and we don't realize how much of an impact it

497
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: makes us, like, feel it crap.

498
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think like people need to start taking

499
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 2: responsibility of what they're actually posting. When I went through

500
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: this big WorldWind of my change, it was where I

501
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: was in my bedroom because I didn't have that pretty

502
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: red Instagram Christmas dress and I was like, shit, I'm

503
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: not gonna have a cute photo to post for my

504
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: Christmas family thing. And it came down to, like, is

505
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: that really what this is about? Like, is that really

506
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: what Christmas is about? My family see me every single

507
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: day of the week, no makeup on, in a cute

508
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: dress or in my TRACKI dacs, like, does it really

509
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: matter what I look like on this Christmas event? Like

510
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm only doing this because of Instagram, And if that's

511
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: the vibe that I'm getting, then.

512
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: What am I putting out?

513
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: It comes to this point that you have to be

514
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: really mindful of what you're actually looking on Instagram, because

515
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: in reality, I wouldn't have looked like that when I

516
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: went and saw my family. It's only because I wanted

517
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: Instagram to make me look like that. And then the

518
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: same with like these girls or men that are putting fancy,

519
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: dancy Gucci and Louis Vuitton bags, It's like, yes they

520
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: might post with them, but how many shitty bags do

521
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: they have?

522
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Like you got to really.

523
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: Put in perspective, like they've got yeah, they got some

524
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: nice stuff, but at the end of the day, they've

525
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: still got shitty stuff as well. I think that's also

526
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: like as people who consume the sort of information, it's

527
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: also about being smart. So for example, like on my account,

528
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: of of course I'm gonna post good photos with good

529
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: lighting and I've been doing this for seven years, so

530
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: like I know menals and all that sort of stuff.

531
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: But also I'll jump on my stories and I've got

532
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: no makeup and I you know, I'm having a shitty

533
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: day and I'll tell you about it. So I think

534
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: it's also about really being picky and making sure who

535
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: you follow you're not just seeing the highlight reel. You'll

536
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: see like actually real life. And I definitely love what

537
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 2: you said about influences and bloggers need to start taking

538
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: responsibility because I think a lot they just think, oh,

539
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: they don't think anything of it. They don't think how

540
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: they could be impacting someone. But like when you have

541
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: a following of that many people like you need to

542
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: take the responsibility. And in saying that, like I actually

543
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: did a post the other day where I acknowledge previously

544
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: I put out of a lot of content because I

545
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: myself was going through I was never diagnosed with an

546
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: eating disorder, but I definitely had disordered behaviors in regard

547
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: to eating and training. And I realized that previously a

548
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: couple years ago, a lot of my content would have

549
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: been kind of triggering to people and just like basically

550
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: telling people they should train more. They should eat less

551
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: and they should just aim to have abs. And I

552
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: put a post and I was like, I acknowledge that

553
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: my content was shit. My content wasn't good, and I

554
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: just wanted to acknowledge it and say, hey, I'm sorry

555
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: that I put that out. At that time, like I

556
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: was in this tunnel vision where I couldn't really see

557
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: anything else, but like I wanted to acknowledge it and

558
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: move forward and just kind of say like, I'm going

559
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: to try to do better because I realized I do

560
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: have that responsibility. I think like there's a really big

561
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: movement happening at the moment, and if you want to

562
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: step forward and open up about it, it's a really

563
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: good time now because I feel like there's a lot

564
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: of acceptance going on.

565
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, when I put that post up, people were

566
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: so lovely and they're like the reason why I did

567
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: put it up is I got this lovely email a

568
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: young girl and she was like, hey, she it's actually

569
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: the podcast that she listened to, and she's like, I

570
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: just want to let you know that I was following

571
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: you back in the day and I actually had to

572
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: unfollow you just because your content was really making me

573
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: just want to be skinny and just want to have apps,

574
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: and so I had to unfollow you, and then I

575
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: found you again because of the podcast, and I've been

576
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: following you for you know, the last six months, and

577
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: I just want to say how your content has changed

578
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: and how amazing it has been to see you transform

579
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: as a person. And I, like, I literally broke down

580
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: crying just because I realized how much I've changed as

581
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: a person. But I've been on Instagram this whole entire time,

582
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: So when I did put up the pos, like so

583
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: many people, like I completely agree with this girl, but

584
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 1: like thank you for saying sorry and acknowledging it, because

585
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: not a lot of influencers would they just kind of

586
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: like chuck it under the rug and just pretended there.

587
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: Definitely was the time that I did that as well,

588
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: because I was just like doing travel stuff because I

589
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: thought that was cool back then, and then like I

590
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: realized that I wasn't even happy doing that, So like,

591
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: I definitely feel like there was.

592
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 1: Like a stage where we were all doing it, like

593
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: we're all.

594
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Just doing it for the lives, and we're doing it

595
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: for the followers, Like we didn't think that we had

596
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: a voice on Instagram and we didn't think that we

597
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: could create a movement. So I think like there's a

598
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: lot of people that were doing it, and you're definitely

599
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: not alone.

600
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: Thank you. And that's another thing is like looking back,

601
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: I honestly just thought that, you know, my everyday really

602
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: sort of relatable things of no makeup and going through

603
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 1: issues with anxiety and stressed with union, like all that

604
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. I just thought that was like mundane

605
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: things that people didn't want to know about. So I

606
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: would only put up my highlight reel because that's what

607
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: I thought everyone wanted. And I think we've shifted as

608
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: a society where people are like, hey, I'm over this

609
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: shiny shit and I want the real stuff. So it's

610
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: really good to kind of see a big shift happen.

611
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: But it's definitely like we can do better, we can

612
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: do more.

613
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like in society. I feel like obviously mental

614
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: health is a big one that's moving at the moment.

615
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: We're all starting to realize that it's actually really important

616
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: and a lot of us do suffer it. I was

617
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: talking to my grandma and she was just like, back

618
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: in my day, like you would literally would be shunned

619
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: if you ever talked about something like that, and just

620
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: to think, like how much we've changed, even just with

621
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: color acceptance, like with body acceptance, and obviously the big

622
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: one being like love acceptance, Like it's I think it's

623
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: just in time, like a lot of the things will

624
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: be a little bit more acceptable. I'm so glad that

625
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: mental health is one of them at the moment, because

626
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: when I started, my current boyfriend at the time had

627
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: never gone through it and didn't know anyone who had

628
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: gone through it, so I was shunned from it from him.

629
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: So it's just like it just showed you like that a.

630
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Lot of people don't accept it. So I'm really glad

631
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: that this movement's happening. That's why I love what you're

632
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: doing on social media and this full love club, because

633
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: you're like leading the way. You're sort of making it say, hey,

634
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: look like talking about mental health and all this sort

635
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: of stuff like is okay and it needs to happen,

636
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: which I think we definitely need more of. Like it's

637
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: we're definitely progressing and we're accepting, but we all need

638
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: to start making these waves rather than just going, oh, yeah,

639
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, this is all good. Glad we're progressing and

640
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: just sort of moving forward, if that makes sense, Yeah, definitely.

641
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: So I personally find it like super refreshing to post

642
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: like makeup free selfies and just sharing, like you know,

643
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: when I'm bloated and real life and when my hormones

644
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: are going crazy and all that sort of stuff. And

645
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: I know you do too, And so I want to

646
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: talk about how we can sort of teach girls to

647
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: get over this whole the need to be perfect and

648
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: to learn to accept themselves as exactly as we are

649
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: rather than think we have to fit in to this box.

650
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: Well, a little perspective right now is like a human baby,

651
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: right this mom would have carried this baby for nine

652
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: months and then this baby comes out and it's perfect,

653
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: Like that's all, you know. It's like this baby is

654
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: so perfect, And when the baby grows up, it just

655
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: ever thinks that it's mom's perfect, like, well, my mom's

656
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: so beautiful, and you like you hear little little children

657
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: saying my mom's pretty and stuff like that, But it

658
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: isn't until society gets that child and changes its mind

659
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: that it thinks of anything different. Like it just shows you,

660
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: like what a society has like given this perspection of

661
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: like what we think about ourselves because before that, like

662
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: all we knew was this child were being beautiful and

663
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: our mom's being beautiful. So it's like we have to remember,

664
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: like we were born like this, Like I'm supposed to

665
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: have my nose looking like this, and I'm supposed to

666
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: have blue eyes, and I'm supposed to be like quite fair,

667
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: Like I was born to.

668
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: Look exactly like this.

669
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: This is my mom and my dad's nae put together,

670
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: and this this is what I'm supposed look like. And

671
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to look like my sister. She's supposed

672
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: to look a little bit different. Not supposed to look

673
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: like my cousin because they've got different parents. Like we

674
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: just need to accept, like this is exactly how you're

675
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: supposed to look like how.

676
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: I love that analogy.

677
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it just comes down to like you just

678
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: have to realize that this is how you're born and

679
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: being okay with that. Yeah, you have to be okay

680
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: with that. And I think that's like going back to

681
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: my first lot of confidence. It's you need to realize

682
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: that it's your inner self as well as you're out

683
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 2: of self.

684
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that, And so do you have any

685
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: tools when you find yourself kind of reverting back to

686
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: old ways of judging or comparing yourself to others or

687
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: thinking that you need to change something.

688
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: I had like a little bit of a rough patch

689
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: in between my movement where I was falling back into

690
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: a bit of a dark hole and it was kind

691
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: of just based on Instagram again. I was on Instagram again,

692
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: like looking at girls. I'm like, wow, I've like gotten

693
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: big again. But in reality, like I'm now than what

694
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: I was when I was eighteen, and like a twig,

695
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: like I'm comfortable and happy now.

696
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: You've got to remember like you're a child then at eighteen.

697
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Like my my body is physically changing because

698
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm coming to the age where I probably would be

699
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: settling down and having kids, so like I am going

700
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: to be a little bit sicker around the waist and

701
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But yeah, like it just comes down

702
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: to when I'm in that space, I'm having a full

703
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: depression anxiety spiral that I've just got to pick myself

704
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: up that next day, like let myself have my time.

705
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: Like you've got to kind of just let yourself have

706
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: your moment and then just remember that like that's totally okay,

707
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Like you're allowed at half moments like that, like not

708
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: every single day is perfect and like yeah, cool, I've

709
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: had a movement where I love myself now, But it

710
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that I'm not going to be in my

711
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: room in the fetal position next week. Like it doesn't

712
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: mean that every day is going to be perfect.

713
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: Still, yeah, one hundred percent. And it's also this sort

714
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: of stuff. It's not like an end. It's not like

715
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: one day you wake up and you're like, oh my god,

716
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: I love myself, Like everything's great. I'm never gonna have anxiety.

717
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be sad like it's amazing. It's almost

718
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: like something you have to constantly work on.

719
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you I think like accepting it, like this

720
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: is my life now, Like I have to deal with

721
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: this and there's gonna be shit days and there's gonna

722
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: be good days, but that's my life. I think it's

723
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: like acceptance is the biggest thing.

724
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so do you do affirmations or is there

725
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: any sort of like little tools that you use when

726
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: you are having an off day or you just sort

727
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: of like let yourself have that day and try again

728
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: the next day. I feel like a good cleanup around

729
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: me is like probably the best thing. So, like, when

730
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting down the dumps, I do find like get

731
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: really messy in my life, like physically and mentally, so

732
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: like my office is a mess, and then my house

733
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: is mess. Like my house needs to be clean.

734
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: So I think having my mental breakdown and up and

735
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: just cleaning everything out honestly just resets me for the

736
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: like to keep going. So if that be even just

737
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: like like I said that what got me down was

738
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: looking at girls on Instagram. So after I have my

739
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: little breakdown, I'm going to go on follow them and

740
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: then clean my house.

741
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: Oh I resetting your life really? Yeah? Oh that's so good.

742
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to try that. I was just like looking

743
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: at my desk and it's like, well I've just moved,

744
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: so I guess it's okay, but it's like shit is everywhere,

745
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like I need to do this. Yeah, now, awesome.

746
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: So I want to switch gears and talk to you

747
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: about your new business venture, which I'm obsessed with, Full

748
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: of Love Club. Can I just say it's amazing because

749
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: you're so young, You're doing something so powerful and impactful,

750
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: and it's just truly amazing. And so let us know

751
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: what is the Full of love Club, what's it about?

752
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: And what are you trying to sort of do with it?

753
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: So full of Love Club happened about three months ago

754
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: from that red Dress anxiety spiral that I had. I

755
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: was coming out of this spiral, I was like, Wow,

756
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: this is really crap, and I need to start letting

757
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: people know how I actually feel online because what I'm

758
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: portraying online is not how I'm feeling right now. And

759
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: so I started opening up on my personal account just

760
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: how I was feeling, what I actually go through, how

761
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: I feel about my body, that I no longer I'm

762
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: going to edit myself how I used to, because I

763
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: think that's wrong and I don't want to send out

764
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: a wrong message. And I had like an incredible response,

765
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: Like you said, like when you opened up about everything,

766
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: I had an incredible response of young girls and even

767
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: men like saying, wow, I like actually talk to my

768
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: partner about my mental health now. I'm so thankful that

769
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: you've encouraged me to open up. And then I've had

770
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: like older men like you know how you have those

771
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: ced men like on Instagram that like comment on new

772
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: photos and stuff. I had like the opposite of that.

773
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: I had like these really nice old men that were

774
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: like messaging me. They're like, I really want my daughter

775
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: follow you. I'm going to encourage her to follow you now.

776
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: But I die. I like, but I'm thinking right now,

777
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what were they doing following you in the

778
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: first place?

779
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was just like wow, like I'm actually

780
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: doing something that's encouraging people to make a change in

781
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: their life.

782
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: And I was just like I need to do something.

783
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: For them, Like they're giving me all these thanks, but

784
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: I feel like I need to thank them at the

785
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: same time. So I was going to do this one

786
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: off like Instagram reverse influence a day where and instead

787
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: of like influencers came, it was like followers came and

788
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: us I kind of like put a party for them.

789
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow, because I would have like girls message me

790
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: like oh, you're so lucky eating at these goodie bags

791
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: and stuff.

792
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, why do I only get to do that?

793
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: Like I want to make you guys feel amazing too,

794
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: because like if I didn't have you guys, I wouldn't

795
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: be on the journey. So I was going to do

796
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: a one off, and then my partner's like, you should

797
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: do it all the time, Like imagine like like you

798
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: just took about like mental health and like journeys and

799
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: like share stories and stuff. I was like, yeah, that's cool,

800
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: and he's like you should call it Full of Love Club.

801
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, that's cool, and then it just happened.

802
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: So my partner pretty much was like majorly the influence

803
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: of the club starting, but then when it came to

804
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: the reasoning part, it is definitely was my audience. So

805
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: from there, yeah, we had our We announced it way

806
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: earlier that we were going to actually have my diary

807
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: the day we were going to like announce all of it.

808
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: It was like three weeks before we actually did. And

809
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: the response was incredible that we like boomed followers straight away.

810
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: We had like media all onto it. They were like

811
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: all Sunshine Coat daily and like the radio stations here

812
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: here wanted me to like go interview and stuff.

813
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: It was just like so hectic the first.

814
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: Like three days of it that was just like Wow,

815
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: this is incredible, Like people really want this and like

816
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: people are ready for this, and it's like it's like

817
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: they were sitting there waiting for it and then I

818
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: gave it to them and they're like f yeah, like

819
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: I'm on this, and they just jumped on board.

820
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, now it's just kind of a safe space

821
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: for young men and women to talk about self love,

822
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: mental health, and body positivity. We do like our.

823
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: Events monthly more so, and yeah, we're on about third

824
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: one next month and it's just going from there. I

825
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: think the next big thing from it would be like

826
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: releasing merch to obviously help funds. We got some T

827
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: shirts in the making, and then we really want to

828
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: do like a Full of Love club tour and like

829
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: try and hit Australia.

830
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds amazing. I love that. That

831
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: just came from such simple and just like righteous place

832
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: and it's just like blown up. That's amazing to hear. Yeah,

833
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: it's just been like, honestly a whirlwind of emotions. That's awesome.

834
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: You're doing amazing things, girl friend. So lastly, just to

835
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: wrap up the interview, basically, I want you to talk

836
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: to any young girls because this podcast is mostly it's

837
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent females, and most of them are in

838
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: the age range from eighteen to twenty five. So I

839
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: feel like this is a really typical age range where

840
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: girls are kind of like figuring out who they are.

841
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: They may be feeling like uncomfortable with themselves. They don't

842
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: know if they're being authentic. They feel like they may

843
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: not be fitting in going through all the emotions which

844
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: I know we have both felt. And so do you

845
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: have any advice for these girls about you know, even

846
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: if it's their body, if it's their career, if it's

847
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: their relationship, just about kind of getting more to being

848
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: themselves and kind of like their authentic self. Do you

849
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: have any advice for them?

850
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: I think for me from my personal experience, it's okay

851
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: to make mistakes. I found like through this whole journey

852
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: that I've had, I've made a lot of mistakes. And

853
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: once you start learning from your stakes, you can then

854
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: see what works for you personally. Because we've got to

855
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: remember we're all individuals, so what may have worked for

856
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: me might not work for for different other girls, you

857
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like there's so many different ways

858
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: our bodies react to things that how I tell you

859
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: to do stuff isn't going to work for you. Like

860
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: it's just like you dom routine, Like for you personally,

861
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: something might work, but something else might not for someone else.

862
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: So finding your own mistakes and learning from them is

863
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: your only way that you're going to set your new path.

864
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: I love that. And also I just want to add

865
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: in there, like I used to be that person who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard when like you are in that

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Speaker 2: Like it really like mistakes. You need to make mistakes,

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Speaker 2: Like it's a balance, like, yes, you have all these highlights,

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Oh I love that that ended on such a

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Speaker 1: good note. Okay, can you let the audience know where

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Speaker 1: they can find you? Follow you on Instagram where they

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Speaker 1: good things.

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Speaker 2: So me personally, I'm just Brook Styles on Instagram, YouTube,

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Speaker 2: same thing pretty much. We just keep up to date

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Speaker 1: On there amazing. Well, thank you so much, Brooke. This

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me on board. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for listening into this week's episode. If you

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