1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: Now Charlestown University is mensi's School of Medicine was established 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this year, set to offer postgraduate 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: programs in an effort to train frontline healthcare workers right 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory. Currently there are territorians well, 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: unfortunately heading off to programs such as the Flinders Medical 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: School in Adelaide, taking potential workforce away, sometimes forever and 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: leaving our frontline deplete it. Additionally, we know that a 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: new aged care training center it opened at CDU's Casharina campus, 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: expanding the territory's locally grown frontline workforce. Now joining me 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: on the line right now is CDU Vice Chancellor Scott Bowman. 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: Scott, Hi KB. 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: Lovely to have you on the show. 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 3: Now. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: I understand that you have recently been in Canberra advocating 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: for funding for training here in the Northern Territory. 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit more about what you were 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: doing in Canberra. 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, So I was down in the map House 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: talking to people, getting them, trying to get them on 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: side about a medical school for the NT, the NT's 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: own medical school, and I've got to say we've got 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: a very very sympathetic hearing from both sides of politics. 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: I think I think several politicians are starting to see, 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: you know, this is the right thing to do. You know, 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: how can you have for a territory that has no 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: commonwealth funded medical praiss the only one in Australia. So yeah, 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: it was a good trip. 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: So what is the status at the moment of the 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: of the School of Medicine, the Men's School of Medicine. 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Okay, look, we just really wanted to get on and 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: do something. So what we've done with launched the medical school. 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 3: It's a little bit like a pub with no beer. 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: It hasn't got any commonwealth funded supported places to train doctors. 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: But what we can do in there is to train 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: already qualified doctors and other health care professions, so including 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: we're looking at the Masters of Aerial Aerial Retrieval and 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: obviously you know when you look at what Darwin does 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: in you know having that emergency international response with world 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 3: experts on that. So working with Lenda Tarists, we put 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: those programs into there. We're looking at short courses, so 42 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: a lot of courses for people that are already qualified, 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: and we're really going to ramp the number of those 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: up and then hopefully have our own medical students in 45 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: due court. 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: And so how tough is it right now? 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, have you been able to secure any federal 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: funding for these programs or what's the status of it 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: From that perspective. 50 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: With let's say we've secured lots of nice words and 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: nice statements, we haven't secured any money yet. So what 52 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: we need is the funding for forty places scoring medical 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: places and then going up to sixty places. Remember that 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: we need in the territory sixty two interns, so newly 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: qualified doctors every year in the territory. Yeah, the Flinders 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: program at the moment produces twenty five and as sorry, 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: twenty four and has produced them for the last ten years, 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: with teelve of them coming from the territory from CDU. 59 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: So that just doesn't measure up to what we need 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 3: in the territory. So we do need that funding commitment 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: to think. You know, hopefully we will get something leading 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: up to the election, but you know, we're not going 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: to go away because this is the right thing to do. 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: So hopefully those you know, fluffy statements and kind words 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: eventuate into something concrete. 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: When do you reckon, you'll know, are you waiting, like, 67 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: will it be a commitment that if it's going to happen, 68 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: it'll happen before the federal election. Oh? 69 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: Look, I would hope. So, I mean, this is our 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: window of opportunity where you know, it is a chance 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: to put forward some really good ideas. This is a 72 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: big idea for the territory. So if it was an 73 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: election commitment, that would really be great. If there were 74 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: you know, some something done in the budget, that would 75 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: be great. Also, if we have to put an argument, 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: we know we've got, you know, the strongest argument in 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: Australia for these numbers, so we're happy to do that 78 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: as well. 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: There Well not that on Friday it was announced that 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: there'd be a new training center for aged care at 81 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: the Casuarina campus. It's now complete. What does this mean 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: for territorians. 83 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, we have got a state of the art facility 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: there for training age care workers. And it was really 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: quite interesting that you know, it's right next to our 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: pre school training area as well, so you've got this 87 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: area for age care, this area for young kids right 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: next to each other, which I think is quite nice 89 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: and showing that the university is across the agent but 90 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: obviously training people for age care is an incredibly important thing, 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: and you know, in partnership with the MTG, we've now 92 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: got a great facility here to dinner. 93 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I think that, you know, if COVID 94 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: has taught us anything, it is that those aged care 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: workers are so incredibly important, and the more that we 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: can grow our own here in the territory, you would 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: think the better. 98 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right, and that's what we're trying to do 99 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: across the board in healthcare. So you'll have seen that 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: we've just announced the Masters in Audiology because we have 101 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: so many people with airing problems. We've got the Masters 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: of Physiotherapy OT, we're now really revamping our pharmacy course, 103 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: so you know, we're ramping all of that up with 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: you know, from master's degrees across two certificate threes and 105 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: fourth in training. 106 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: Scott. I know that that obviously students are starting to return. 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: I would suspect if they're not back already. For twenty 108 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: twenty two. COVID's been a big you know, it's had 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: a big impact on so many different ways, whether you're 110 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: talking about tourism or hospitality or health right across the 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: Northern Territory, but no doubt it's having the unimpact as 112 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: well as those students return. 113 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it definitely is. So what we're trying to 114 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: do with if you're like, we try to reduce the 115 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: viral load on campus, So anyone that can work at 116 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: home is working at home, but any training course, so 117 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: our vocational students back now, we're trying to run those 118 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: as normal and we've put in all sorts of procedures 119 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: to make that happen. So training is going on pretty 120 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: much unaffected. We're all gearing up for a couple of 121 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: weeks time when we have the degree students coming back 122 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: on campus, and at this point we're just saying we 123 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: are doing on campus delivery, so you know that. You know, 124 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: we did pivot to online, but this year we want 125 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: to get back on campus and do that in a 126 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: safe way. Probably the biggest impacted areas that international house, 127 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: our accommodation. We've had some of our international students and 128 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: start to go down with the disease over there, all 129 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: doing well, healthwives, but obviously causes a massive disruption. 130 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does in so many different ways. And 131 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: how has it been in terms of returning some of 132 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: those international students back to the territory. 133 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: Oh look, that's gone really well. I think we're up 134 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: to getting in the round about one hundred and thirty 135 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: back actually on campus so that you can feel the 136 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: campus coming back to life. So that's gone really well. 137 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: But we've got a big expansion plan in place for international, 138 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: so overall we have about two thousand international. Really within 139 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: three years want to double that and then another two 140 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: years I want to double it again. So we really 141 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: are focused on on that. 142 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: Well, Scott, it sounds like it's going to be a 143 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: busy year for you, no doubt about it. And I 144 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: guess it always is. But it sounds as though you've 145 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: got a lot planned. 146 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: We've got so much plan and with so many you know, 147 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: I said to people, you know, some people are saying 148 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm feeling a bit tired, and I said, well that's fine, 149 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: but we have got a big year. It's not a 150 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: time to be tired. We've got so many big projects. 151 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think you're going to be hearing a 152 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: lot about the UNI this year. 153 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: Oh well, good stuff, Scott Bowman, the Charles Doowen University 154 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: Vice Chancellor. 155 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: It's always great to catch up with you. 156 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time this morning, and good to hear 157 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: what's happening out at the UNI. 158 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, always good to talk to you. I was going 159 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: to wish you a happy New Year, and I thought, well, 160 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: maybe it's too late to do that. What's the rule 161 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: on that. 162 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Well I was doing that on my first week back 163 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: as well, which was about two weeks ago, so it 164 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: was right at the end of January, and I felt 165 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: a bit the same. I thought, is too far gone 166 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: to be wishing people a happy new Year? Well, happy 167 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: Valentine's for you too, mat I hope you have a 168 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: lovely day and no doubt we'll talk to you again soon. 169 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Scott, see you