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Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 1: Marry people. We pay our respects to elders past, present

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Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Rise and Conquer Podcast. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we chap mindset, self development and becoming

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Speaker 1: your higher self mix soon with a lot of laughs,

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Speaker 1: plus behind the scenes of my life running two businesses

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Speaker 1: and being among Think of us as the perfect combo

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Speaker 1: of brunch with your besties mixed with self development. No

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Speaker 1: matter where you are in your journey, we're here to

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Speaker 1: help you be curious, pull yourself out, and embrace radical

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Speaker 1: self awareness. If you're ready to get into the driver's

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Speaker 1: seat of your own life and stop life pass you by,

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Speaker 1: then you're in the right place. Hello everybody, and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the podcast. We are so excited because today

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Speaker 1: is the first episode of our brand new series, The

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Speaker 1: Magic of Discovering Yourself. In this series, we really wanted

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Speaker 1: with different people in your life, and we are kicking

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Speaker 1: off this first episode with my husband Timothy. You guys

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Speaker 1: love Tim and all our chats together, but this conversation

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Speaker 1: is a little bit different. We get super vulnerable and yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I know you guys are going to love this episode.

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Speaker 1: But basically, we are releasing prompt cards. So these are

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Speaker 1: Tim go on date nights. We have done them in

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love them. I feel like they're also the

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Speaker 1: episode of tea. Do you have a weekly recommendation? I do.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of a pop culture on this week.

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Speaker 1: Magic of Discovering Yourself discover Others. I am joined by

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Speaker 1: my husband Timothy Hello. He has been on the podcast

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Speaker 3: It's just because I can do two things at once.

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Speaker 1: We're still alive and it's all good, so grateful, so happy.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's you do a team.

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Speaker 1: that is such a key moment where if I didn't

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Speaker 1: make that decision, like who knows what I'd be doing,

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Speaker 1: like still working corporate, I don't know, and like that

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Speaker 1: also was then the decision where I started doing personal

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Speaker 1: development and I found, you know, all the concepts and

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Speaker 1: tools that I talk about now so hugely, hugely life changing.

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Speaker 1: And then the second was when I decided to message

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Speaker 1: you on Facebook because obviously, and that was like on

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Speaker 1: a total whim, I had never met each other. We

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Speaker 1: had mutual friends, but I was the one who was like,

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Speaker 1: he's so cute. I'm going to message him. And if

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Speaker 1: I didn't do that, we like we wouldn't be here

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: I didn't actually message back a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: I know he's playing hard to get.

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Speaker 3: I think I messaged you back like a couple of

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Speaker 3: hours later or whatever. I was like, damn, who's hot?

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Speaker 3: And I was like fuck yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing is like I had never done

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Speaker 1: that before, Like I'd never message a random boy, so

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Speaker 1: out of the whim and like just it was an

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Speaker 1: intuitive nudge. It was just like, oh, I need to

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Speaker 1: do this. He looks really cute.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it was very divine. There's no coincidence that

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Speaker 1: me and Timothy are together. Very divine.

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Speaker 3: A lot of ones. That's like six ones.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 3: Damn, I've never thought about that about it. That's so cool.

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Speaker 1: That's why I felt maybe Ivy would be born on

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Speaker 1: the leventh November.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I like how I don't know how

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Speaker 1: amazing is that? And obviously life changing because cracked on

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Speaker 1: and the rest is history. That's all right. Last question, Timothy,

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Speaker 1: what do you want to be remembered for?

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Speaker 3: I love this card.

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Speaker 1: It was good fun. I actually I can't really remember

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Speaker 1: what you said, so I'm excited to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: So essentially, it's all got to do end in line

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Speaker 3: with my purpose, which is like help other men be

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Speaker 3: more emotionally intelligent. So I guess that's what I want

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Speaker 3: to rememberful, like helping those men like you know that

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Speaker 3: are struggling and then just like you know, they've got

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Speaker 3: all these emotions built up, but they don't know how

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Speaker 3: to release them. Just helping them navigate, you know, helping

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Speaker 3: them navigate within themselves, how to express those emotions in

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Speaker 3: not a toxic way and just in a very safe environment,

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Speaker 3: and like, yeah, just being open to just different, deep

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Speaker 3: conversations with other males, which is like, that's what we're

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Speaker 3: missing in society. I feel so true.

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Speaker 1: I love that it's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: And obviously being the best dad ever, the coolest dad.

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Speaker 3: I want to be like as the coolest dad as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's so cute about you. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I think just like very simply, I just want to

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Speaker 1: be remembered as, yeah, a great mom, like a great wife,

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Speaker 1: like just a good person, like you know, just like

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Speaker 1: she was, you know, motivating, inspiring, she just a really

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Speaker 1: good person. Yeah, like I think straight away when you

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Speaker 1: asked me the question, the first thing I thought was

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Speaker 1: like a great mum.

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Speaker 3: Mmm.

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Speaker 1: And you know those people where you meet them and

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Speaker 1: you feel filled up and you feel like they listen

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Speaker 1: to you and they could see you and they you know,

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Speaker 1: they just they made you feel seen. It's like, if

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Speaker 1: I can give that to other people, I would feel

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Speaker 1: really if that's like what I was remembered for I'd

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Speaker 1: feel really really good. M.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so interesting. It's like, you know, I guess

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Speaker 3: in the big scheme of things, it's like take all

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Speaker 3: the little stuff, like you know, within whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: But it's like essentially, just if you can be remembered

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Speaker 3: as someone that helps others and inspire others, that's like

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Speaker 3: goals really.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you have such a positive impact on

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Speaker 3: somebody else's life and they benefit from it, Like like

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Speaker 3: that's what life's all about.

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Speaker 1: I feel Yeah, like that what I truly feel like

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Speaker 1: we're here to do and yeah, like I kind of

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Speaker 1: just thought, you know, spit grim but like at my funeral,

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Speaker 1: what people would say and as much as you know,

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Speaker 1: the achievements of doing things and achieving certain like goals,

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Speaker 1: and of course I want you know, I have some

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Speaker 1: really huge goals and I want to accomplish really huge

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Speaker 1: achievements and whatnot. It's like I would want people to

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Speaker 1: remember me as like she was so loving, she was

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Speaker 1: so kind, she was such a good person. She made

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Speaker 1: me feel seen and yeah, she inspired me Like that

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Speaker 1: feels that absolutely warms my heart. M.

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Speaker 3: I've done that part of my self development was that

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Speaker 3: module where I had to It's essentially like and also, like, guys,

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Speaker 3: whoever's listened to this, I'd love for you to try

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Speaker 3: this at home as well, so you you know, you

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Speaker 3: pick the most important person to you or you know,

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Speaker 3: who you would want to hear from. Might be your wife,

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Speaker 3: might be your child, be a family member, might be

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Speaker 3: your best friend. But essentially it's you're writing your own

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Speaker 3: urology from their point of view about you, who you

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Speaker 3: were as a person. And yeah, it was a really.

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Speaker 1: Cool who did you write it from? Again?

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Speaker 3: I wrote it from Ivy. Yeah, that was so hard.

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Speaker 3: It was like it was so many tears. But it's

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Speaker 3: like it's such a it's such a powerful thing for

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Speaker 3: you to step back into your power because it's like

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Speaker 3: almost like your own reassurance of like who you are

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Speaker 3: as a person now and who you want to be.

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Speaker 5: You'll also, yeah, that was yeah, I remember you like

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Speaker 5: spoke to me about that and read some of it

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Speaker 5: to me and it was so powerful and like that's

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Speaker 5: even like going back.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like going back to the basics because it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Ivy just thinking you're a good dad, like

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Speaker 1: you literally just have to be a basically good human.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be anything or do anything, you know, crazy,

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Speaker 1: It's like you just have to make her feel seen

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Speaker 1: and loved. And it's like, oh, so beautiful that it

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Speaker 1: can really be that simple.

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Speaker 3: It just gets like it's just the most roorus part

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Speaker 3: of yourself that you get to like write about. It's

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Speaker 3: like really exciting.

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Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, that's beautiful. Well, Timothy, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Wish we could go through a wall. We'd be here

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Speaker 3: for like three days straight. We would be should we

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Speaker 3: do a three day podcast?

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Speaker 1: No one's got time for that.

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Speaker 3: I honestly I can't wait for everyone else to like

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Speaker 3: feedback and we'll.

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Speaker 1: Actually whip these out at dinner and we have absolutely

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Speaker 1: in your shame and like take them to your friend's house.

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Speaker 1: They're even really great to journal by yourself, like answering

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Speaker 1: these questions by yourself. They're going to bring up things

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Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, wow, like how do I want

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Speaker 1: to be remembered? And am I currently living in alignment?

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Speaker 1: So really really powerful.

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Speaker 3: Well, Like also what I love about them is like

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Speaker 3: we'll do these multiple times and then like every if

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Speaker 3: you pull the same card, like one week and then

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Speaker 3: like the next week, but you have like a different

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Speaker 3: answer sometimes yeah, which is really special too.

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Speaker 1: Well, even like we've done all the questions we've did

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Speaker 1: in the podcast today and the answers like some of

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Speaker 1: them have changed, some.

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Speaker 3: Of them the same. But then I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: like the surprise answers as well, Yeah, so did you

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Speaker 3: really cool?

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Speaker 1: And that's why, like we've literally done the same questions

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Speaker 1: at date night and we like love them. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you for joining us with the

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Speaker 1: magic of discovering yourself. We hope you enjoyed this very

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Speaker 1: deep chat. Me and him are very vulnerable and yeah,

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Speaker 1: honestly get around the cards because they're going to make

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Speaker 1: you have really powerful conversations with the people you love

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Speaker 1: and connection is just Everythank.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys, bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquered Podcast. If you enjoy and want more,

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Speaker 1: come connect with us on Instagram at Riseinconquer dot podcast

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Speaker 1: and join our Facebook discussion group, a Rise and Conquer

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Speaker 1: podcast community. We're an independent podcast and we have a

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Speaker 1: small team, so we do appreciate your time and support.

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Speaker 1: If you have a spare moment. A follow or subscribe

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Speaker 1: on whatever platform you listen to would be so amazing,

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