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Speaker 2: Donu, Hello, Hello, and thank you for the nice words.

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Speaker 1: Oh Gounta, it's so wonderful to talk to you again. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: hard hitting question, how the hell are you?

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Speaker 3: I am very good, Thank you, Thank you for asking,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I hope the same for you.

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Speaker 1: All the better for talking to you, sir, But this

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Speaker 1: is such a busy time for you. You mean, you

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Speaker 1: know you're heading into Grand Prix weekend. You've got so

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Speaker 1: many media commitments, You've got so many commentary commitments with

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Speaker 1: Network ten this weekend. I mean, how how do do

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Speaker 1: you still enjoy that? Did you still get the same

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Speaker 1: kind of spiking you're adrenaline?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: I enjoy it, you know, And whenever it starts again

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Speaker 3: this season, like today for me, I did some stuff yesterday,

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Speaker 4: To reaspire for that. I know in ability do you

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Speaker 4: make so much we don't want to work today, That'll

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Speaker 4: be fine, But we do love what we do obviously.

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Speaker 4: But you mentioned we are rolling around to a new season,

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Speaker 2: A lot of difference this year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember any big change like this

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Speaker 3: But anyway, the cast will be a little bit small,

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Speaker 4: Oh Ganda. Do you see these changes as positive because

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Speaker 4: Now, some women, and we're not going to generalize gender here,

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Speaker 4: How do you see oscars chances this year and do

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Speaker 4: you think they do have a challenge on their hand

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Speaker 4: going to be difficult for Oscar? It's a team. Don't

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Speaker 2: I think there's been biased here, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: You know, we haven't had an Aussie champion for a

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Speaker 2: Come you know, Brighton almost got there. I mean it

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Speaker 4: We don't celebrate almost down under.

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Speaker 3: You're already celebrating and then slipped away, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think there was any intentionally favoritism to Lando.

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Speaker 3: I think Lando played out his experience because first half

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Speaker 4: You did say that Oscar lost his mojo and that

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Speaker 4: It's brought out an Oscar promotion for every time he

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Speaker 4: this idea that something had jinxed him. Were you someone

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Speaker 3: Because I've thought very started with Burgos. Maybe he ate

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Speaker 3: think I've seen that he's doing some addizing for a

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Speaker 2: You know, Weld you love it.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think is the better driver, though, Gunta,

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Speaker 1: if you must answer, if I said Lando and or Oscar,

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Speaker 3: Both very talented there, but both very good and McLaren

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Speaker 4: So and m who looks like he's late for science.

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Speaker 4: He still looks that young.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, KIMMI looks like a baby, doesn't he's a baby.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't look like only one this one, you know.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, so so true, so so true.

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Speaker 4: This is about the time of the show and the

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Speaker 2: I think that Mercedes and George Castle.

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Speaker 3: I think Mercedes is shoutin Bahrain are testing that they,

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Speaker 3: I think it we go.

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Speaker 4: I love seeing George on drive to survive, being like

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Speaker 4: these kids are born in like two thousand and six,

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Speaker 4: I feel four hundred years old.

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Speaker 1: I know that, ye, George, for a long time, a

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Speaker 1: long long time. I also think I could agree with you.

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Speaker 1: We were at an event last night winter and it

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Speaker 1: sometimes and there was everyone was very very firm on Mercedes,

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Speaker 4: Can we declare that we were in the Mercedes Lounge.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we're pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why when you are here, Guinton,

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Speaker 1: because I know that Australians in particular, we adore you.

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Speaker 1: It's not just it's not just Jelmy and I.

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Speaker 4: You're a rockstar, You're an.

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Speaker 1: Absolute rock star. Do you love us as much as

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Speaker 1: we love you?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I love your you know.

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Speaker 3: No, I honestly always always to come to Australia every year,

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Speaker 3: What is your best race? And you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: knowing that I'm not always politically correct. Wherever I am,

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Speaker 3: I say it's Melbourne and then people you should say

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Speaker 3: The fans love the sport. They embrace when Formala one,

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Speaker 3: if you go to a place and you feel like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we come here, do our show and then we go.

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Speaker 2: No, they really like that.

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Speaker 3: Everybody comes here, so it's very good to be here,

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Speaker 4: It's very very true.

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Speaker 1: I do need to ask you, though, Gunta, and I

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Speaker 1: apologize if this has happened before. Have any of our

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Speaker 1: kind Australians ever forced you to do a showy?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I've never done a shoey, and that's something

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Are you guys proud about that one or no? Alright, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Let's clarify, we love Daniel Ricardo drinking out of a

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Speaker 1: You just spoke to our culture. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: that that should be part of it. I just don't

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Speaker 1: you do you like a shoey? Do you like that

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Speaker 3: It's like, if that defines Australian culture, I think there's

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Speaker 4: There is a lot of culture in the s in

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Speaker 4: a good way, and like the Chinese kind of culture.

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Speaker 4: Also we will clarify someone like Daniel Ricardo did so

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Speaker 4: one even though he's not right. He definitely is.

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Speaker 1: But also I'm just the are you're giving me just

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Speaker 1: new eyes to this gunta because the first time you

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Speaker 4: Hell is he doing with his shoe? He's taking the

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Speaker 4: Like what on earth? If we ever bump into you,

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Speaker 4: we will only ask for a photo. We won't ask

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Speaker 4: you to drink out of his shoe. And we know

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Speaker 4: that it is such a busy week for you. Thank

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Speaker 4: you so much for giving us some of your time

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Speaker 4: this morning, and happy racing and if you love Melbourne,

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Speaker 4: we love you right back. Yeah, and good luck with

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Speaker 4: the call for Channel ten this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thanks very much, thank you, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you