1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Did you get out camping on the weekend, did you 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: go and have a hunt, did you go fishing? 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: What did you get up to? Well, i'll tell you what. 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: If you've been keeping an eye on the petrol prices, 5 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: you'll know that the unleaded prices seem to have come 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: down a bit thanks to that fuel excise, but the 7 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: diesel prices are still very high. 8 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: I touched on this a moment ago. 9 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: We know that the diesel around Darwin today the most 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: expensive you'll find. It's three dollars twelve point nine. That's 11 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: just around Darwin. So we've definitely seen that this fuel 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: excise is having an impact, or the cut to it 13 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: is having an impact with the unlettered but everyone's sort 14 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: of scratching their heads when it comes to the diesel 15 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: and wondering why not. 16 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: So much with that. 17 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: But joining us in the studio this morning is the 18 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Minister, Jared Maylee. 19 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good. 20 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: Morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners. 21 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Now, Deputy Chief Minister, we know, obviously I just mentioned 22 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: these unleaded prices they seem to have come down, but 23 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: the diesel hasn't. I understand you've just been in a 24 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: briefing about our petrol prices. 25 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: What's the go Look, Katie, we're taking this very seriously 26 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: because we know it affects territories because we more devalan 27 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 3: than anyone else in Australia, because we've got to travel more, 28 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: and also a lot of our communities rely on diesel 29 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: for generation right across the Northern Territory, so this is 30 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: a really important matter for us. That's why we're really 31 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: hitting a double barrel effect here, Katie. We've enacted that 32 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: seventy seven year old Active Price Exploitation Act and the 33 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: Controller put some notices out due over the weekend to 34 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: some of the retailers and alic Springs because they simply 35 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: weren't passing on that whole thirty two cents discount that 36 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: should have been happening through the federal government fuel excise discount. 37 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: And as well as that, we've also reported them to 38 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: the a Triple C to make sure that they go 39 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: and have a look at this, Katie, because this is 40 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 3: a really serious topic here. Because we've got so far 41 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: to travel, we don't have as good as public transport 42 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: as some of the other cities, so we need to 43 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: make sure that territories get that full thirty two cents 44 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: reduction in excise, so the fuel goes down so we 45 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: can get around the northern territory. 46 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: So is it just a wholesale in Alice spring sets in, 47 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: got a few servis or is it a number of 48 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: different service stations in see. 49 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: I think there's a number of different service stations, but 50 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: I think you know, I'm not sure exactly who controls well, 51 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: because that's the information we're asking for. Kay, We're asking 52 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: for a supply about price structures, and we've used our 53 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: legislation later this is I think we don't use once previously. 54 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: We're enacted it with the controller in because we want 55 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: to make sure that we get the information and just 56 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: put the pressure on these retailers to bring the feel 57 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: back down to that thirty two cents we're asking because 58 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: we know that i't have to pay that to the 59 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: feedes anymore. We know that should be passed on to 60 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: all territorians and we are making sure we're the double 61 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: barrel effect here to get this happening. 62 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: Well, Look, I think that if there's anybody that's not 63 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: doing the right thing, then absolutely that's what the government 64 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: needs to be doing. You need to be asking for that, 65 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: please explain, and they need to make sure that they're 66 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: doing the right thing by territorians. I'm still sort of 67 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: perplexed so as well. And I don't know whether this 68 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: This is probably more a question to the feeds, but 69 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: you might have some insight. 70 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: Look, I'm quite perplexed. 71 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Why is the unleaded price going down but the diesel 72 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: just sort of isn't to the same degree. 73 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, Katie, I couldn't answer that question. And we 74 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: know that the VOPEC bring in the fuel and that 75 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: they bring it from overseas, and whether it's a different 76 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: cost to refine fuel versus diesel, I just don't know that. 77 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: But what we're doing, Katie, is making sure that we 78 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: get the consumer affairs onto this because we've heard some 79 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 3: stories of advertising. The board was a different to act 80 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: the fuel pump prices. So we've we've increased the fines 81 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: in relation to that to make sure and we're monitoring 82 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: that as well. So just heads up to anyone out 83 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: there if you're doing the wrong thing. The government's taking 84 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: this very seriously and we're monitoring it. We're doing consumer affairs. 85 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: We've enacted that old Price Exportation Act. We've talked about 86 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: the a triple C because we want to make sure 87 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: that territories get that thirty two cents reduction that they're 88 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: entitled to. 89 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: In terms of that, please explain that has been issued. 90 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: How quickly do you anticipate that you're going to get 91 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: a response from those fuel retailers or from that wholesaler 92 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: and you know, like you said, potential here to find them, 93 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: like what what is the punishment for them? 94 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: Look, we are our expectation, Katie, is to get that 95 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: information as soon as possible. We've asked follow of information 96 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: and then we're once we've got that information, then we 97 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: can work at what our next step is. But at 98 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: the moment, we're really in the dark of you know, 99 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: where the pricing structure, the supply and demand. So we're 100 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: getting into information. We expect that as soon as we can, 101 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: as soon as possible, and then we can look at 102 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: the next step after that cade because that act is 103 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: a very old act and it's very broad, not like 104 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 3: some of the wording is very broad and very wide, 105 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: so we should be able to make sure we use 106 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: that to bring down that fuel cost to help territorians. 107 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: All right, last time you and I spoke you'd said 108 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: that there was no real concern around supply for the 109 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: Northern Territory. 110 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: Is that still the case? 111 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we really have no idea what Donald Trump's 112 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: going to do next. I mean, He's essentially tweeting all 113 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: sorts of things over the course of the weekend, and 114 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: nobody's really quite sure what's going to happen next. But 115 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: is our fuel supplies still secure from your perspective in 116 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: terms of the Northern Territory government's briefings and the information 117 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: you're being given. 118 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: Yes, the information I'm be giving is our supply is 119 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: firm at least until May, and I think the Federals 120 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: government is also talking about that month. We are lucky 121 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: we do have the export of the gas out so 122 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: in those refiners need gas to operate, so we are 123 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: pretty lucky to have impacts to be able to export 124 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 3: that gas. So our fuel supply is good. 125 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: How come only until May? 126 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we just don't know what's going to 127 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: happen into the It's really overseas and probably out of 128 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: our control. But we are saying is to people, just 129 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: make sure you buy what you need, don't go and 130 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: store it, don't go and buy extra fuel. To territories 131 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: listening to this, just buy the fuel as you normally 132 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: do and we'll get through this. 133 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: Just to make sure people don't panic that like that 134 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: supply until May. Is that you know, like, are we 135 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: thinking then that that might run out? Or is it 136 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: just that we need to negotiate where we're getting it 137 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: from next? 138 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: What's the go No, Look, I don't think we're going 139 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: to run out in the territory. I think we are 140 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: pretty good people. We're getting our fuel from Singapore, which 141 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: just doesn't have to go through the Middle East. But 142 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: we need to be together and make sure as Australia 143 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: as a whole get through the situation. We don't know 144 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: what's going to happen over in Iran, but our fuel 145 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: supply is safe and I think it's already been extended. 146 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: It was April, we're talking now it's May, so things 147 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: are looking good, Cuddie. So I just don't think we're 148 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: going to have a supply issue, but we do go 149 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: to make sure we don't have too much demand. 150 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: All right, Deputy Chief Minister. 151 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: We also know the Opposition this morning has been out 152 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: saying that they know that territory families and businesses are 153 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: reeling from the brutal wet season and now those rising 154 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: fuel costs and damaged infrastructure piling even more pressure onto 155 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory businesses. Now they're calling for the government 156 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: to step up and deliver targeted support for key industries. 157 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: Is that something that the Northern Territory government's currently looking. 158 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: At, Yes, Katie, we've also heard people about that, and 159 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: we are looking at businesses right now. You get the 160 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: disaster relief which is six hundred and ten dollars for 161 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: adults and three hundred and nine dollars for children. That's 162 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: available if you're a flood affected Okay, there are a 163 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: lot of stuff about some white goods in eight thousand 164 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: if you're mean, set it. But we're also now looking 165 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: at the business side of it. So if you're a 166 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: business and you've been flood affected, like Caddie, I've heard 167 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: stories where civil contractors have lost trucks and trailers and 168 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: stuff like that because they couldn't get them out and 169 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: they got bogged and they got flooded. So we are 170 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: looking and we're working with the FEDS about this to 171 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: make sure we end up with some sort of a 172 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: disaster relief for businesses. In the Northern Territory, right, So. 173 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: You're currently working with the FED, so it sounds like 174 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: it could be a bit of a weight over the 175 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: next few days or something. 176 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, we have been working last week, so we're 177 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: waiting for the FED to sign off. We're hopeful it 178 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: will be as soon as possible, but I don't want 179 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: to give you a date. We're working with the FEDS. 180 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: They're working with us because and we are working together 181 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: as a team. 182 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: And is that I mean, obviously you're having discussions with 183 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: industry at the moment about all of these things, Like 184 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: what are they saying to you, because they must be hurting. 185 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean from our tourism sector that would no doubt 186 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: have had cancelations to their bookings, you know, to our 187 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: like you just touched on there, your civil contractors, you're 188 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: building industry, like it has impacted so many across the 189 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: Northern Territory, not just the fuel costs, but also the 190 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: flooding that we've had, Like we've had a real hit. 191 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: You would have to say, since the beginning of the year, 192 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: I think. 193 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: The territories had a real hit. Cadie. This you hit 194 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: that nail on the head. I think we've had like 195 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: seven severe weather events. Another one for me. Now I 196 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: see there's another site on oversen. We don't know where 197 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 3: that's going to go yet, but look, Territorians are hurting, 198 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: whether you're a family, whether you're a business. And you 199 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: might not have a business yourself, but some of your 200 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: friends might have that. So just the network of people, 201 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: and we know the territories are relatively small paper and 202 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: people know people, so there are a lot of people 203 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: who are affected by this, Katie, and I feel for them. 204 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: But I can say is the government's working hard to 205 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: try and get this out and done. With these unnatural events. 206 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: We're dealing with situation after situation. We've got the fuel 207 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: crisis on top of that, we've got the war over there. 208 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: You know, these things are out of that control. But 209 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: what I can say, kat is we are making sure 210 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: that we support Territorians. We're using that Act, the whole 211 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: double barrel effect. If you're out there price gouging, we 212 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: are doing our best and make sure that we whole 213 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: thirty two cents gets passed on. 214 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah it has to be now if you've just joined us, 215 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: we are indeed speaking to the Deputy Chief Minister Jared 216 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: Maylee now I do want to ask as well, what 217 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: about the Daily River region at the moment. As I 218 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: understood from discussions with the Northern Territory Police last week, 219 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: they were going to have cruis heading out there over 220 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: the East Long weekend to assess that damage. 221 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: Has that happened, Yes, Kadide, that's still a restricted area, 222 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: but those services are moving out there to assess it. 223 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: The water has gone down and the police are out 224 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: there seeing what's safe and what's damage, you know, power 225 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: and water, the septic systems. So it's still a ristrict area, 226 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: so you still can't go there, but the government services 227 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: have gone in there to start the assessment process to 228 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: see watch damage. And I've seen photos like sure your 229 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: listeners stand through buildings. I thought a hay crop that 230 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: was all nice and green and now it's just literally 231 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: a sand bank. So the infrastructure damage and the damage 232 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: there was going to be pretty bad. My gust, it is. 233 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: Going to be massive, I would think, just based on 234 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: like you've said, the photos and what I'm being told 235 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: at the moment, there's a lot of discussion about whether 236 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: some areas or some of the houses in the community 237 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: actually need to move. 238 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: From what I have heard. 239 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: I understand that the Catholic Church has got a block 240 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: of land where some of those homes could be moved to. 241 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: The Member for link Yi was in the Northern Territory 242 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: News last week talking about this. Is this something that 243 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: needs to be seriously considered and if so, who futs 244 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: the bill? 245 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: We definitely need to consider this, Katie. We can't have 246 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: these properties getting flooded just for the few bit, but 247 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: just the people who live out there, Kadie. Their lives 248 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: are impacted. Now this has been a very major effect, 249 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: but almost every year something happens out there, so we 250 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: really need to look after their well being and look 251 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: at movie these communities. These communities were established a long 252 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: long time ago and now things are getting worse. The 253 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: floods are there, and we need to make sure that 254 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: we don't have to keep rebuilding it because ultimately the 255 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: taxpayer costs. There are private people and the public housing 256 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: out there, so we need to do that, get the 257 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: balance right of projects. 258 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: So what the FEDS have to pay for. 259 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: It, well, look, I don't know the answers. 260 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: It would have been like a half half kind of. 261 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: Some contribution definitely from the FEDS. And now'll be up 262 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: to discussions and negotiations, but we need to do the groundwork, Katie, 263 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: or find the different area, get the tenure right, working 264 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: out how the services, and I say services power and 265 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: water and septic and those sorts of things. So it's 266 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: a big job, Katie, don't get me wrong, because these 267 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: communities are remote areas and removing a whole generation system 268 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: or a whole sectic system is expensive. But we need 269 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: to get the balance right. Could we can't continue on 270 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: because the events may be getting worse and worse, So 271 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: we need to start looking at it now and to 272 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: get the planning happening. 273 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: All right, Deputy Chief Minister, I want to ask you 274 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: about some areas in health that we've got some concern 275 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: at the moment. We know over the weekend, well, Saint 276 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: John once again under what can only describe as quite 277 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: a high pressure situation, they will stretched to the limit, 278 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: another critical system failure point with Saint John's saying twenty 279 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: one cases on Friday morning, so people have to wait 280 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: more than six hours for an ambulance. There is no 281 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: doubt they are under stress. They are understraining. The last 282 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: time you and I spoke, you know we'd discussed this. 283 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: There is a desperate need. I think for Saint john 284 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: to have some clarity on their long term funding so 285 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: that they can make some investment into their workforce and 286 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: also I would imagine into their infrastructure. Yeah. 287 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: No, look, I agree, Katie, and we do need to 288 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: get to the bottom of this. We've been in office 289 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: now for two years and we can't blame the previous government. 290 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 3: We need to get in. We need to get this 291 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: sorted and I know minutes edging Turney is doing a 292 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: great job doing those negotiations getting it again. We need 293 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: to get the balance right, Katie, of spending taxpayers money. 294 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: We know that the health system has been underfunded, and 295 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: just recently there was I think a billion dollars extra 296 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: money put into the health system. Now that's not going 297 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 3: to increase it, Catie, that's actually managing what we had 298 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: the outstanding over payments. Each year. You barely touch the sites, 299 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: so you know, but it is helpful. So what we 300 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: need now is use that money wisely. And I am 301 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: sure that the health system, you know, including the Saint John's, 302 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: is going to be high on a prioritially. 303 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: They're not going to have to wait though till the 304 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: budget gets handed down. I know that's like what three 305 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: four weeks away? Still like, surely they need that surety 306 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. 307 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: Look, they do, Katie, and we all know that abitruan out. 308 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: They're doing a great job, and I know that they're 309 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 3: working with the health system. But these things are complicated 310 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 3: and we need to get a right because the idea 311 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: would be one a three or four year contract to 312 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: make sure territories get endless when they need it, and 313 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: that just to happen overnight. There's the negotiations that are 314 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: very lengthy and very complicated. So we just need to 315 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: kinu to work together to make sure we get the 316 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: best outcome for Saint John's and territory. 317 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Is this like top of mind for the Northern Territory 318 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: government right now because it is top of mind for territorians. 319 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I've spoken to Edging about it. I know 320 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: that he's dealing with it. But again I said, those 321 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: negotiations are complex and it needs to be get to 322 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: the bottom of it. I'm sure that he will and 323 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: I'm confident that his office will. 324 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: Get Look, it's not the only area that's under pressure 325 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to health. We know that there are 326 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: serious safety concerns that have been raised by nurses inside 327 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: Royal Day and Hospital's emergency department with claims that they're 328 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: facing daily violence and inadequate security. How concerned are you 329 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: by these reports from frontline nurses about threats, violence and 330 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: unsafe working conditions inside the emergency department. 331 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: Look, Katie, it's paramount to me, There's no question about it. 332 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: Those nurses do a tremendous job. They are under a 333 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: lot of pressure. They're dealing with very sick people and 334 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: they need to be there and they do a great job. 335 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: So this opportunity to shout out, but we need to 336 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: make sure if they are get assaulted that the person 337 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: who's doing it punished properly. But we do say if 338 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: you see any crime out there, whether you're a victim 339 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: of crime or you see it, please report it to 340 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: the police as soon as possible so we can build 341 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: up the information and then we can. 342 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Do It's a pretty dire situation, and isn't it where 343 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: nurses and doctors aren't actually reporting stuff because they feel 344 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: as though the bureaucracy is, you know, it is holding 345 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: them back, it's taking too long, that it's not worth 346 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: doing it. You know. One of the things that they 347 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: have said is that the security responses are too slow 348 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: and they're ineffective. Do you reckon there's any changes that 349 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: could be made in that space in terms of ensuring 350 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: that security can actually act more effectively and efficiently. 351 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: Look what we deliver the manitary sentencing for the assaults 352 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: on frontline workers while we're in government, So you know 353 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: we have increased the penalty. Talking about private security inside 354 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: a hospital, that would be to deal with the hospital. 355 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: But what we deal with if you need to call 356 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: the police, and though police should turn up on a 357 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: timely manner. And we know that we've funded the police 358 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: a lot since we've come into office. We've done corrections, 359 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: we've done the court. We're cleaning out that backlog to 360 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: make sure that the police can be out doing their 361 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: job and responding to these and not transporting criminals around, 362 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: not sitting in behind doing paperwork and having do all 363 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: that red tape. So we're making it easier for the police, 364 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: and we're giving you more numbers as well. We'll go 365 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: to recruit, passing out praise regularly to get those police 366 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: back on the beat out there working. So if you 367 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: need a police officer, you ring triple zero or the 368 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: other numbers you need to they will turn up in 369 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: a timely manner. And it's super important because no one 370 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: deserves to get assaulted, especially a frontline worker out there 371 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: just doing their job. 372 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Absolute garbage to have to deal with that kind of behavior. 373 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: I think is discussing. 374 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: There's no place for that. 375 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: It really isn't. 376 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: And we just need to make sure we send that 377 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: message and we need to keep on top of We 378 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: need to ask people to report it, no matter how 379 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: money is. Think it is ring up and report it 380 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: to allow the police to be able to build some 381 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: intel on it, and then if they need to, they 382 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: can react to that by doing operation. But if they 383 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: don't know about it, Katie, we won't be able to 384 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: fix it. 385 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: Minister, a couple of really quick ones before I let 386 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: you go. One of those consultations still opened for the 387 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: Golden Snapper stocks. Now, there has been some criticism that 388 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: the science on the stock assessment doesn't stack up. 389 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: What do you say to that? 390 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: What I say to that, Cudie is go online, do 391 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: the survey. If you put there's a spot there where 392 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: you can put your own information in. Write to me. 393 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: If you want to write to the department, tell us 394 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: what you're experiencing, Katie, that's what that's why we're having 395 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: to say, and that's why we're taking this very seriously. 396 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: We want to make sure we make decisions on the 397 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: best interest of all territories. And we all know I'm 398 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: a keen fishow I go out fishing a lot, and 399 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: a lot of my friends do. So we're not going 400 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: to rush into this, Katie. We're going to act on 401 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: the balance of probably right across the whole territory. So 402 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: what I do So to those people go in there, 403 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: write to me, right to the department, have your say, 404 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: tell us what you experience in if you go out there, 405 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: if you're a fishing tour uper, give us your exact numbers, 406 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: what you've been catching, give us the data that you've 407 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: got and we can act on that. But we haven't 408 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: made a decision here. But we are out there to 409 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 3: work with many people as possible because we know how 410 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: important is fishing for your well being but also for 411 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: the tourism and the economy. 412 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: All right, Deputy Chief Minister. Just finally an operation corrections question. 413 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Really over the weekend, how on earth did a female 414 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: get mistakenly released from custody at the Catherine Courthouse. 415 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: Do you know, Well, I've got a really brief information 416 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: about this this morning. I understand that the police picked 417 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 3: her up from the PLTS, took her there and then 418 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: that matter that she was in that court was dealt with, 419 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: and then they released her. They forgot about the other 420 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: two outstanding metas, so there's a miscommunications there. They did 421 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: catch her immediately, so we're looking into that now to 422 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: work out exactly what happened, Cady, because it's pretty unacceptable. 423 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: So it's not going to happen again. Was it a 424 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: police luck? Was it the police? 425 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: It was just a communication error between the agencies and 426 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: Kadie and tell me. I've only got back in the 427 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: office today, been away on the over easter as well, 428 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: doing a bit of fishing. I'm going to get to 429 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: the bottom of it because we can't have people walking out. 430 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: What if this was a dangerous person. 431 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's it was going to be my next question. 432 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 3: I don't know, Katie, but my understanding is that she 433 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: was caught very very quickly and they realized what this 434 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: situation was. But I want to get to the bottom 435 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: of how it happened. Yeah, that's where I want. 436 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: To get to It So it wasn't G four S, 437 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: the new new crew. No, they're not there in Catherine. 438 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: No, No, it wasn't G for S this particular situation. 439 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: YEA understanding was the police had her in her in 440 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: their custody and they released it after doing through the 441 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: court in Catherine Courthouse. A bit of a miscommunication, but 442 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to get to the bottom of that, Katie, 443 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: and I'll see what happened and we'll make sure that 444 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: we can fix where the issue is. 445 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough well, Deputy Chief Minister, also the 446 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: Minister for Corrections and various other portfolios. Jared Mayley, thanks 447 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: so much. 448 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: For your time this morning. 449 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie.