WEBVTT - Nathan Harry & Adam Cooney - I'M A CELEBRITY - TV Personalities 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:03.640 TV Reload, the podcast. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:04.040 Past leep that line. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.320 Welcome back TV Reload listeners. My ame is Benjamin Norris 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.639 and this is your podcast to get all the inside 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.320 goss on the popular TV shows you may be watching 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.600 from around the world. Undeniably, our TV sets are a 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.360 major part of our home entertainment, and yet very little 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.000 is known about how our favorite shows get made. 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This episode, I'm joined by 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.839 Nathan Henry and Adam Cooney, the two celebrities who have 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.400 just missed out on being a part of the finale 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.800 of I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here Australia. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.480 These two boys were given the boot in a double 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.800 eviction that has left Asia, Liz and Harry vying for 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.080 the jungle crown. Adam is known for being an AFL 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.560 Brownlow medallist who was pushed into the jungle by his 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.160 wife and kids, but one over the hearts of Australia 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.600 with his genuine attitude and his bravery with the challengers. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.000 Nathan was allowed British reality staff from the hit series 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.319 Geordie Shaw, who was probably the lesser known celeb but 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.160 managed to make a huge impact on the other celebs 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.240 and Australian audiences. I do have to say that the 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.759 boys were well and truly into the spirit of their 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.280 post jungle life. So full disclaimer, we do get some 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.840 rowdy chat and some X rated content, so don't come 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.399 for me. If you're one of those sensitive people, you 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.160 need to switch off because this chat is just not 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.080 for you. I will ask Nathan about some of those 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.000 stories that were cut from the final edit and get 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.400 some insights into his thoughts on Australia. Adam will open 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.120 up about his friendship with Nathan and why he thinks 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.480 that there's some stigma still about quemen and sports. We 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.520 will discuss how the show has impacted both boys and 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.640 if this has changed the way that they want to 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.480 do television in the future. Plus we will get plenty 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.080 of exclusives from behind the scenes if I'm a Celebrity 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.560 Get Me Out of Here, which is having its finale 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.320 on Sunday night at seven thirty, and you can also 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.720 catch up on ten Play if you've fallen a little 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.000 bit behind before that finale. Anyway, let's bring Nathan and 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.080 Adam into the podcast and I really hope you enjoyed 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:23.200 this episode. Hi boys, Nathan, well done on winning over 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.560 Australia in just twenty episodes of I'm a Celebrity. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:27.400 Thank you. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.360 I didn't think it was possible because I've had my 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.800 predecessors before me. I had Joey six, I had Vicki Patterson, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.840 I had Charlotte Crosby, all refined UK reality stars, and 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.720 I genuinely and I still to this day, believe that 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.480 I am not as famous and big as them. I 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:48.080 surpassed all fucking three of them and I came forth. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:54.120 So obviously the Australians loved me more than I love. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:58.000 Them, and I am sore honored and humbled to actually 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.800 have came fourth. And I'm so grateful for humbled. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.640 I am fucking ecstatic, Like the competition side of me 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.840 came out like I'm so happy about that. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.800 How did this show come about for you? Because that's 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.000 a good question. I want to know did Joey Essex 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.200 or Charlotte Crosby did they do you in like how 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:14.679 did it come to? 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:14.800 Not? 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:16.440 Like it was very random. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:20.440 So basically I started talking to a guy that lives 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.680 in Australia and he was best friends with the booking 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.359 agent for the show, and he basically is called, well 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:27.160 show to Will. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.760 I'm Benji. They put me forwards Tunnel ten for this show. 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.240 And then straight from that meeting, I went straight into 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.600 a meeting with Tunnel ten and they were like would 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.600 you do the show? I was like yes, you'll have 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.560 me literally in a week. Were like, we want you 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.960 on the shore. I was like, are you fucking for real? 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.320 You want me like little old me from down in England. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:48.960 Yes, please. 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.000 Well, I think it's brilliant because Australia is now obsessed 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.200 with you and I'm going to get into that in 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.000 a minute. But Adam, how are you feeling? Are you 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.880 shocked at how well you've done? 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:57.200 Oh? 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.560 I'm so shocked at how well I did. 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.080 Generally, the AFL players travel pretty well in this competition, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:04.880 so I had a little bit to live up to. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.680 Generally they make the top five except Billy Brownis. I 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.360 think he got kicked out early, but so bad luck Billy. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:11.400 But I was so sore. 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:12.600 I thought I'd be in here for. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.880 Seven to ten days, max, and then flying home, go 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.960 back to see the family and get on with my life. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.120 Little did I know twenty eight days later, I'd still 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.880 be stuck in that hell hole with those crazy celebrities. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.720 You do. You are right, We get the AFL footballer, 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.320 but something about you, I think we've got to go 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.760 on a journey with Maybe we didn't know as much 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.240 about your personal life and who you are as a person. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.600 Of course we know you're a Brownlow medallist and all 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.480 of that, but I felt like we got to learn 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:39.960 more about you during the show. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:40.320 Yeah. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.760 I learned a lot about myself during the show as well. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.520 I think I said a few times that my kids 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.360 have never seen me cry, And when I was reunited 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.560 with them yesterday, they were laughing at me, calling me 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:50.279 a silk. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.040 Even Hayley, who's the most emotional person I've ever met, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.840 was saying, well are we crying so much? 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.320 On that show, but it was an emotional journey. That's 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.320 what the jungle does here. It forces you to think 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.000 about things deeper because you have a lot of downtime 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.240 and you really. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.160 Do sort of face your emotions. 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.440 And I had a pretty good crew in their Woody Dicko, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.359 Nathan my boy. They all drew They all drew that 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.960 out of me as well, and I think it's been great. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.599 It was like a twenty eight day therapy session for me. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.160 You said that your wife and your kids though bullied 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.400 you into doing this show. That was the headline across 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.000 the media while you've been gone. Did you really want 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.360 to turn it down? And what tactics of bullying are 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:29.160 you talking about? 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.119 I turned it down straight away. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.680 My agent rang me and said, look, do you want 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.359 to are you interested in doing on the Celebrity? 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.000 I said no, thanks, don't call me for a week. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.320 Exactly what you said, every single tear, why you win that. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:41.360 I wanted to go home. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.480 After about three days, I was like, all right, I've 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.640 had enough this, get me. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:47.120 Out of here. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.920 I've wind every day up from about day three to 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.159 day twenty one. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.400 All I wanted to do was kick down that gate 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.080 and get out, get the hell out of there. But 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.360 after I've been in there for twenty one days, I thought, well, 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.840 I may as well see this one out. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.240 But yeah, all I wanted to do was leave because 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.520 it was pretty tough in there, and yeah I was. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.800 There was no physical bullying, It was more sort of 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.440 mental the mental breakdown from Haley and the. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:09.800 Kids to tell me to get in there. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:11.800 And then they all they all said that they missed 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:13.479 me so much and just wanted me to come home. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.839 But geez, I'm glad that they're over here with me. Now. 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.240 What about this though? People get kicked out of these 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.760 competitions and then they want to go back in. So 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.320 you hate it every day. But if we gave you 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.279 the opportunity to go back in right now, would you 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:24.560 do it? 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.479 Not a chance in this world would I go back 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.680 into there. We had to film a scene of me 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.120 and Nathan leaving the jungle and which we walked down 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.479 the same path and I was getting PTSD again, just 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:36.880 bloody walking back. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.320 Now. I thought they were going to throw me back 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:38.720 in there. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:43.000 Nathan. What is the impression of Australian television in the UK? 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.479 I mean, do reality TV stars want to come to 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.640 Australia and try and crack the market. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.120 Well, I'm not going to lie firstly, but when I 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.920 got into this industry, I'm mister Ladd and Australian TV 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.680 didn't have a frigging clue what. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:56.800 I was getting my supem for. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:03.440 You guys are absolutely bucked, shit crazy. Absolutely one flew 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.800 over the cuckoo's nest. All need a psyched tests. Every 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.560 single one of using Boadliner's saying I have suddainly enjoyed. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.360 Oh my god, is that Tim Tams. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.120 It's like I'm a crackhead to Tim Tams, like, oh 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.760 my god, oh well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.800 eat one while I'm doing this, My dear, Why I've 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.920 been in the jungle, I asked for Tim Tam. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.080 I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. This is how obsessed I am. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.960 Right, I said, if I get kicked off the jungle, 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.320 I'm not leaving this production site unless I have five 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:35.160 bucks to take on. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.320 I want to be the face of Tim Thams. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:41.120 I am the chocolate, magical goodness that Australia needs right now? 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.520 Will you do more TV? Why you're here? Because I 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.320 can imagine after such a successful run. I mean, I'm 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.120 celebrating you. Everyone in Australia is celebrating you. Do you 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.120 think that you'll stick around and do more TV or 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.400 do you think you go by Geordie Shure and more? 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.520 You know, of of that shock reality that's that you've 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:57.160 been familiar with. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.040 My plan is to actually do more TV. I want 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.480 to do presenting. I want to do Master Chef in Australia. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.360 I would like to do Dance with the Stars. I 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.680 want to do any single thing. I feel like I 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.760 want to do more Australian TV because I feel like 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.160 in the long run, I. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.760 Would actually like to move to Australia. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.480 And when this is actually a the secret as well, 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.880 So way before I've got famous, a psychic told my 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.239 mom that I'm going to be on this is before 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.720 we're famous as well, said your oldest son is going 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.040 to be famous, is going to be on Australian TV 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.040 and it's going to be on the biggest show in Australia. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.040 I've just done that and then they said I'm going 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.040 to move to Australia. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.320 So I think the next is the plan is the 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.079 moving and Australia. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.480 If you will have me, I will definitely be there. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.840 You said last night, you know when you're eliminated that 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.760 you know this experience was better than Jordie Shaw. Is 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.240 that because you've got to be more yourself? I mean, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.760 when you're doing something like Jordi Shore, I guess there's 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.520 a lot of pressure for it to be a particular 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.240 style of show where you know, you did turn up 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.680 straight away and we're extremely loud, but then as time 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.680 went on you seem to calm down and show you 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.319 true colors, which is I think the reason why Australia 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.840 loved you so much. Did you enjoy doing this better 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.440 because you could be truly yourself? 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.880 Yeah, that's that you just hit the nail on the head, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.920 like this is the one show where I've been able 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:17.000 to relax and just be me and have no fears 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.679 about it, no guards up, and just let my head down. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.880 And for some unbeknown reason, people liked what the sort 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.200 I'm not gonna like the whole time I thought I 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.080 was a wingy little bitch who did nothing but complain, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.000 But for some strange reason, Australia loved that, and I 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.800 was like, Okay, wow, how how do I go from 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.800 being who I've left the jungle and then going back 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.600 to that I'm not gonna lie. Yesterday I came out 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:44.880 and I said I wasn't gonna drink. I had three 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.880 bottle of wine last night. I'm not gonna shove and 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:47.400 course shit. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.640 So I went straight back to having a drink. But however, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.080 I'm not transformed. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.880 Straight in that person. I still have part of me, 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.079 still got my wits about me. I still I know 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.120 I think this is not I'm in a different place 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.200 life now, and I thunk the jungle. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.440 For that, like it has propelled me to grow up. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.959 I'm not. I'm not said I'm a boring person. Now 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.880 I'm not. I'm just more refined. Imagine me like a 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.600 bottle of red wine. Even though I don't drink red wine, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:16.360 I can't stand it. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.760 But imagine me like a bottle of red wine by 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:24.000 that's been in a gorgeous cellar. Now I'm more refined, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.640 I'm more tasty and delectable. But no one is going 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.320 to fucking open me because I am still brewing. That's 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:32.440 exactly why I am now. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.320 Adam, what was the hardest thing about the show in 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.920 terms of testing your mental attitude? And the reason why 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.000 I asked This is when I go to the gym, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.680 I watch AFL footballers stand in the in the coldest conditions. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.880 So when football is going to go into this show, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.360 I think that your mental attitude is going to be 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.920 pretty strong. But what was the hardest thing about this? 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:51.840 Oh? 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.120 Yeah, the mental attitude takes a lot. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.280 You have to be pretty strong in here. We don't 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.480 have warm showers, so we have cold showers for twenty 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.040 eight days. You can't eat whenever you're hungry, so you 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.760 get a quarter of a cup of oats in the morning, 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.079 two scoops of rice and beans for lunch, and then 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.480 depending on how well you do in a trial, you 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.520 might get half a portion of dinner if you go 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.000 okay in the trials. So the hardest thing when you're 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.040 hungry at home the cup, you go to the fridge 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:21.880 and you make something. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.800 We overeat, every one of us. What we realize is 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:25.520 how much we. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.160 Actually eat in the real world, So it's the hunger 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.680 factor day after day after day is really difficult. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.199 I hated washing my clothes with my hands. Wringing them 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.680 out hurt my forearms because of how low I was 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.319 on energy. Walking up and down hills was difficult. 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.440 I couldn't wash my hair properly. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:47.760 Do you me to keep going? 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:48.440 It's the long walk. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.800 You have to go and get your own wood done. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:51.719 Have to take your own shit out. 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:55.720 We couldn't flush the toilet. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.360 You're just shooting into a bucket for a month. Thankfully 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.400 I didn't have to the toilets. That was Nathan and 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.600 Aisha's little job. But Aisha enjoyed it a little bit 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:05.040 too much. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.240 He's a real turd queen. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.040 Oh my god, that is absolutely disgusting. I want to 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.720 talk to you about your friendship with Nathan because it 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.200 actually was quite amazing to watch. It was that quite 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.080 you know, from an LGBTI person myself, I thought it 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.680 was just a beautiful friendship to watch it evolved. You know, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.040 it's clear that you both have this this amazing mate ship. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.520 I wanted to ask you about your relationship with gay 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.200 end before doing this show. Did you have mates like 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.839 Nathan prior to doing I'm a celebrity, not a. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.520 Lot of friends like Nathan. I don't think there are 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.319 many people in the world like Nathan, so it was 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.400 an unlikely friendship. A former AFL. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:45.559 Player and gay Jeordie Shaw star team up in the jungle, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.080 but I know we just quicked straight away. He knows 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.000 nothing about football obviously, but I was sort of watched 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.600 Jordi Shaw back in the day, so I knew of Nathan. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.840 But he the first three days was he was full on, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.839 like he's as extrovert as you can get. But then 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.040 after he calmed down, I think we saw a completely 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.720 different side of him where he was really kind. He 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:11.480 was really selfless, and I love sitting with someone and 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.360 just being able to chat open and honestly. And when 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.800 I was feeling down, he was quite often the one 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.720 who would lift my spirits again by making me laugh 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.280 or just having a deep conversation. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.040 It's amazing to have someone like that in your life. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.160 And has just said it's an unlikely little friendship we've got. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.920 Hopefully when he comes to Australia he can come and 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.559 stay at my house for a few days. I think 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.839 he's going to be busy in Australia because everyone's fallen 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:34.520 in love with him. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.760 You see what sort of an amazing character he is. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.319 And for him to come in the top four, I'll 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.080 give him that he came forth. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.240 So for him to finish fourth after not a lot 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.560 of people in Australia knowing him at all. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.960 I think he's a testament to his character and what 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:49.760 sort of person he is. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.720 The reason why I was asking you about this makeshift 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.960 with Nathan is you'd made some comments previously about why 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.880 we haven't seen gay men in football in the AFL, 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.000 and one of the comments was there's probably a gay 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.719 footballer in every team. But what do you think is 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.400 the real reason behind that and is there anything that 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.000 we could be doing to sort of help people feel 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.880 more comfortable about their sexuality in sport. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.680 I couldn't tell you the reason why. I think it 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.280 would be amazing. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:16.800 To see that. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.280 I think the AFL is certainly more than ready for 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.000 a gay AFL player, and it would open the door 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.800 to so many other players to coming out. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.640 We've seen it in the past with a League players, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.680 with NBL players. It's only a matter of time before 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.520 we see a gay AFL player come out. And they're 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:33.680 going to make so much money too. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.800 But maybe that's the reason why they don't want to 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.760 do it, that maybe someone just wants to be a sportsman. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.680 They don't want to be the face of the LGBTI community. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.280 Do you think that might deter people from coming out. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:45.000 I hope not. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.400 I certainly hope it doesn't because I think that whoever 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.240 does come out, and he's brave enough. As I said, 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.920 there'll be so many kids out there who know that 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.120 they're different, and you're probably better to speak on this, Nathan, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:01.000 but who are different but too good or too worried 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.040 about what people will. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:02.320 Think of them. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.560 And I think if they see someone like an NFL 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.640 player that is a role model to them, then that 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.400 is something that they would feel more comfortable and aspire 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:10.520 to be like. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.240 And is that right? 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.800 No, I agree with that. I think what you just 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.640 said with there was perfectly beautiful. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.240 It would be nice if more AFL players did come out, 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.520 especially Adam Coooning. It would be nice if you did, 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.720 but it's one of them things that you've got to 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.280 do it when you're comfortable and when you're ready. However, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.040 if anyone did, it would change the game and it 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.280 would pave the way for a lot of people. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.920 What about back at home for you, you know, are 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.920 the sports people coming out better? I mean here in Australia, 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.280 I mean maybe we've got a bit of a problem 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.520 with the term mate and in our blokiness and all 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.600 the rest of it. But Nathan, back home, are queer 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.200 people coming out in sport? 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:48.120 Do you know what? 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.680 There's been a few people back home that have came 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.440 out and do you know what that all have been 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.280 well received and openly unwelcomed the fuck. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.280 If anything, it's encouraged, black Horn. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.480 But the thing is, again with sport, it is one 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:07.960 of them heavily masculine things where it's like a lot 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.840 of funds this forget that it is a sport and 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.440 they are they almost take it too far when like 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.840 obviously people come out and make it personal, this, that 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.400 and the other. So it's like it kind of I 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.720 personally don't if I was a sports person, I probably 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.720 wouldn't come out because I just don't think it's the 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:29.080 industry to feel safe in and feel accepting just because 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.640 that's and I will be honest, that's not the fans 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:32.960 and how they make you feel. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.680 So I feel like if the way people, if people could. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:41.040 Just love sport for sport and not the players, then 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.760 of course it'd be a welcoming thing. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.320 Everyone that's coming out that I've spoken to have said, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.520 you tell some amazing stories, and then I've chatted to 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.440 some of them since who've watched the show, and that 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.520 they've all been edited out of the show. So I 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.600 want you to do me a favor, they said, there 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.160 was heats of stories, but what is the juiciest story 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.600 that you know in your heart of hearts would not 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.240 have been played on television that you can tell me 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.080 because I just want to hear I just want to 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:06.800