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Speaker 2: On the podcast, I have the gorgeous queen from RuPaul's
Speaker 2: Drag Race down Under season two. This guest might not
Speaker 2: have had the loudest voice in the competition, but she
Speaker 2: certainly made an impact on us as an audience. It
Speaker 2: is Urie Guy on the second series of down Under.
Speaker 2: We've really been treated to a different blend of personalities,
Speaker 2: each contestant offering vastly different stories and overcoming different hurdles,
Speaker 2: making this competition anyone's guests on who will take home
Speaker 2: the crown. There was plenty of people online talking about
Speaker 2: Yuri Guy's time on the show, and this queen had
Speaker 2: a lot of us wondering if she was the secret
Speaker 2: trade of the season. With this week's episode focusing on
Speaker 2: a new rivalry between Queen Kong and Beverly Kills, it
Speaker 2: was sadly two queens in the back seat of the
Speaker 2: episode who unfortunately landed in the bottom two and saw
Speaker 2: Uri Guy packing. We will talk about her lack of
Speaker 2: confidence if RuPaul was accurate and suggesting there might be
Speaker 2: a backstory holding her back, and a quick game of
Speaker 2: shady or lady that will see one honest answer pretty
Speaker 2: much sum up this queen's time on the show. However,
Speaker 2: let's get started with today's guest. I'd like to welcome
Speaker 2: Uri Guy from RuPaul's Drag Race done under season two
Speaker 2: to TV reload.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just love sitting back and watching drama.
Speaker 2: Previously on Roupol's Drag Race.
Speaker 1: On the show, I just couldn't really vibe properly.
Speaker 2: Okay, you guy, do you fancy yourself a singer?
Speaker 1: No? It no, it's hard to get that out of
Speaker 1: your head.
Speaker 3: Eerie Guy, Moley Poppins.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my DearS, but you were both up for elimination.
Speaker 1: Just has this confidence that I don't have.
Speaker 2: You didn't struggle the most because you're not talented. You
Speaker 2: struggle the most because of those voices in your head.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're funny, but I feel like we're
Speaker 1: funny when we don't have to.
Speaker 2: Be Hi, you're a guy. How are you?
Speaker 1: Hi? Hello, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 2: What is it condragulations on your time on the show.
Speaker 2: Are you happy with the way that you came across?
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna say king dragulations for going home? No, sorry, no,
Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah, I'm really yeah, I'm happy with how
Speaker 1: I came across.
Speaker 2: I was myself, Well, if you can't be yourself, who
Speaker 2: can you be?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Apparently not Courtney Love.
Speaker 2: I thought your Courtney Love was great. I don't think
Speaker 2: you have to be worried about that.
Speaker 1: No, it was confusing. That was confusing. I didn't know
Speaker 1: if I was in the top or the bottom, but
Speaker 1: apparently I was on the top, and I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: great love that for me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people don't know if they are a top or
Speaker 2: a bottom until they're in the situation.
Speaker 1: Exactly, I'm verse, but okay, I guess I'm a top today.
Speaker 2: Do you now use a lot of those rupeaulisms? You
Speaker 2: know those catchphrases like I just said, congrangulations. Once you've
Speaker 2: been on the show, do you find that they slip
Speaker 2: into your repertoire.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, Well they haven't slipped into mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not really like a how do you
Speaker 1: put this? I'm not like I love you Biverley. I'm
Speaker 1: not like Beverly that's like sleigh boots the house down,
Speaker 1: mama whatever, or like calling people girl and stuff that's
Speaker 1: just not me.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's there's actually some rupaulisms that I
Speaker 2: still don't really understand. And I've never I've never missed
Speaker 2: a series of the show. But what the hell is
Speaker 2: what is RuPaul saying when she says she already a
Speaker 2: What is that? I don't understand?
Speaker 1: She done, already done, had herses. Apparently somebody already had something.
Speaker 2: Wait just a minute, let's bring Susan in from Stand
Speaker 2: Australia Publicity. I think I think she's trying to give
Speaker 2: us the proper answer.
Speaker 4: It's something that Rue heard a burger King cashier say
Speaker 4: when they were in line at burger King or something,
Speaker 4: and like Rue just loved it and has always said
Speaker 4: it since she.
Speaker 1: Done, already done hers. Do you think somebody tried to
Speaker 1: get to Males.
Speaker 4: I think something like that. Yeah, And she was like
Speaker 4: she done, already done, had hers this or whatever, and
Speaker 4: so Rue was like loving it.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Well, you know, Beverly Kills was
Speaker 2: given a fairly meaty edit in this episode. Do you
Speaker 2: think that the focus was heavily on her to distract
Speaker 2: us from who was really in trouble?
Speaker 1: Well, if you know, if Beverley distracted all the viewers
Speaker 1: and everyone from me and Molly doing really bad, I
Speaker 1: can't complain.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that Beverly did dominate that episode
Speaker 2: in your mind?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess Beverly just had a lot
Speaker 1: to prove and a lot she was in the bottom
Speaker 1: for ages, and then her like this is something and
Speaker 1: I guess that she's really good at, and so maybe
Speaker 1: it was sort of like a oh, you'll think I
Speaker 1: should have went home because I was in the bottom
Speaker 1: lip singing multiple times and now it's a dance challenge
Speaker 1: and this is something I'm really really good at, but
Speaker 1: it's also something COM's really good at.
Speaker 2: There was definitely a storyline going on between Beverly and
Speaker 2: Queen Kong like that definitely was happening because obviously they
Speaker 2: knew they were in their element, and then they became
Speaker 2: super competitive, which we really hadn't seen from Queen Kong before.
Speaker 1: No, definitely, it was great to see them in their
Speaker 1: element and do the thing and do really good. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just love sitting back and watching
Speaker 1: drama and watching people arguing you're happy to watch it,
Speaker 1: not to be involved, but just watch well.
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough Bev and no shade to Beverly, Like, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying Beverly kills is a lot. She is a
Speaker 2: little lot, but I'm not throwing any shade when I
Speaker 2: say this. But throughout the series, you know she'd been
Speaker 2: really confident with everything, but then it really didn't seem
Speaker 2: to land every time. With this episode we did get
Speaker 2: to see her finally being confident, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden it was landing.
Speaker 1: The thing that I admire a lot of Beverly is
Speaker 1: her confidence. Even if you know she does really bad,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. She's really confident she does. She's trying, like
Speaker 1: the same as me, trying her best, but she just
Speaker 1: has this confidence that I don't have. And so finally
Speaker 1: seeing all that confidence actually, you know, you know, when
Speaker 1: she's actually did good, I was like, oh, well, good
Speaker 1: for you. I'm very happy for you. So it was
Speaker 1: actually good to see her being authentically confident in something
Speaker 1: that she knows how to do.
Speaker 2: I would love to have the confidence of Beverly Kills.
Speaker 2: I don't have that.
Speaker 1: No, definitely, I would love that as well. But then
Speaker 1: if I was hobnefully confident, then I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of people would enjoy watching me.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't say that. A couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Ago, I was in a really dark place, and I
Speaker 3: don't know that girl anymore. Now that my head's in check,
Speaker 3: I feel really galvanized and really focused. I needed the
Speaker 3: past four weeks as long as it's been. So the
Speaker 3: reality is, if your head's not in the game, what
Speaker 3: the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2: Why do you think that Queen Kong has only started
Speaker 2: to flourish in the competition? Now? What do you think
Speaker 2: had been holding Queen Kong back?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's maybe a similar thing with me,
Speaker 1: but she just holds herself really well, while me, I'm
Speaker 1: like all over the place. I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying my best. I'm a mess, but she's
Speaker 1: very put together. But I guess in her head and
Speaker 1: a way as I am, and there's always just this
Speaker 1: little voice or like as Rue would say it in
Speaker 1: a saboteur. And so finally her getting a challenge that
Speaker 1: she's actually really good at, like just same as bit
Speaker 1: of it, actually got to show what she's really really
Speaker 1: really good at. And so that would probably be like
Speaker 1: a confidence booster. And because I you know, I'm I'm talking.
Speaker 1: So I went home and she won. That's what I meant.
Speaker 2: We know that everyone knows that when when people are
Speaker 2: listening to this episode, they will have seen the episode.
Speaker 1: Okay home because I suck.
Speaker 2: There was a few jokes about who the trade of
Speaker 2: the series is, and your name obviously kept coming up
Speaker 2: with a few of the queen's. I want to know,
Speaker 2: was there any sexual chemistry happening whilst making this series
Speaker 2: of RuPaul's Drag Race.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, Like I'm not I would
Speaker 1: say no. Like obviously everyone knows that Kong. Everyone was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Kong's trade of the season, but then a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought that I was, and I was like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, my trades of the season were
Speaker 1: Kong and Aubrey.
Speaker 2: And no one hit on you.
Speaker 1: A lot of them have partners, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I was just like boring, Well, you're obviously a very,
Speaker 2: very pretty person, and that obviously gives you a lot
Speaker 2: of attention, I would say, on the outside world. But
Speaker 2: I want to know, now that you have the attention
Speaker 2: of the rupoul's community, how many people have been sliding
Speaker 2: into your dms and what is the most outrageous, thirsty
Speaker 2: comment that you've received.
Speaker 1: Well, there's been quite a few, but like, I just
Speaker 1: don't know how to reply because I'm really bad at replying,
Speaker 1: and then I don't know what to say, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I don't know, so then I don't reply.
Speaker 1: But I'm really bad. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would have assumed that you'd have heaps of people
Speaker 2: sliding into your dms and you have a criteria. Are
Speaker 2: they attractive? Are they my type?
Speaker 1: Well? No, I don't know. I'm not really Like as
Speaker 1: much as i'd talk about six and come and everything,
Speaker 1: I'm really I don't know. I'm really shy.
Speaker 2: You know, the reading of the Queens and Snatch Game
Speaker 2: just haven't really landed for the down Under series, last
Speaker 2: series or this series. I mean, why do you think
Speaker 2: those two challenges that work universally overseas don't land here
Speaker 2: in Australia.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're funny, but I feel like we're
Speaker 1: funny when we don't have to be, When we're like
Speaker 1: put on the spot. It's quite hard to be funny,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I'm not funny if as you can see,
Speaker 1: like if you gave me something and I had to
Speaker 1: do it straight away, I would not be funny. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing, but I feel like so
Speaker 1: maybe that's the case for a lot of us. We're
Speaker 1: just funny in general when we don't mean to be,
Speaker 1: But when we have to be, that's the problem. I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm not funny even though I want a comedy challenge.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: You are funny, but you know, it was interesting. I
Speaker 2: felt anxious watching you do the reading challenge because you
Speaker 2: really struggled with saying something mean about the other girls,
Speaker 2: and I just, you know, thought, well maybe this, maybe
Speaker 2: the reading challenge doesn't work, and down on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, maybe they should like just get us really
Speaker 1: really really drunk before the reading challenge and then it
Speaker 1: would work perfectly.
Speaker 2: Fine, Well, the eyebrowers freaks in your words, look like
Speaker 2: it was going to be a bit of a nightmatter
Speaker 2: stuf with, but it seemed like it really worked. Who
Speaker 2: was the hardest person for you to collaborate with on
Speaker 2: your time on RuPaul's Drag Race down Under Series two?
Speaker 1: It's probably it was probably Biverly. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: love Beverly, but it was probably Beverly. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just like she was just really confident and I wasn't.
Speaker 1: And I was like sometimes, like even in the untapped
Speaker 1: where she was like we're all in the dark, we're
Speaker 1: all great, and I was like, Beverly, No, I was like,
Speaker 1: just shut up and me and Molly are in the bottom.
Speaker 1: I was honestly, I was just sometimes it's just but yeah,
Speaker 1: it was probably Bivily. But like on the show, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't really vibe probably with Beverly, but off the show,
Speaker 1: everything's great, everything's perfect, everything, it's amazing. It was just
Speaker 1: I guess just in that situation, it was really hard
Speaker 1: to work with Beverly but she did such an amazing job,
Speaker 1: like teaching me the corry and dumbing it down for
Speaker 1: me and everything. So like I can't really fault anyone
Speaker 1: for anything, her for anything, I don't or she was amazing.
Speaker 2: You know. It's an interesting show when you when you're
Speaker 2: forced with big personalities to come together and to try
Speaker 2: to work together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely that. Yeah, that's that's the one. That's
Speaker 1: what I meant.
Speaker 2: I put it into words for you.
Speaker 1: You're well, I just mumbled around and you've made it work.
Speaker 2: This week, the judges seemed to really struggle with saying
Speaker 2: anything too critical, making it almost impossible to work out
Speaker 2: who was going to be in the bottom two. Are
Speaker 2: the tides starting to turn for some of the queens
Speaker 2: in this series?
Speaker 1: I just felt like we were all doing really wow.
Speaker 1: The people that weren't doing so well at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season, for example, Biverley and Kong did really
Speaker 1: wow in this challenge. So everyone that was doing well
Speaker 1: up to this point, it was between us apparently, so
Speaker 1: like it was down to like netpicky stuff and it
Speaker 1: just so happens that, you know, me and Molly just
Speaker 1: wasn't as great as Hannah and Spanky.
Speaker 2: I think Spanky's come a long way, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: No, definitely, Like honestly, the funny thing is is like
Speaker 1: people underestimate Spanky and that's probably like a good thing
Speaker 1: for her because whenever she does something good, you're surprised.
Speaker 1: You're like pleasantly surprised, but like, you know, so I
Speaker 1: love that for her, and I'm really happy that people
Speaker 1: are finally actually seeing the amazing artist Spanky actually is.
Speaker 1: Even if she doesn't look the best, she still is
Speaker 1: like a good time, a great time, like she's amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm shocked that you've gone without us getting a
Speaker 2: resolution to what RuPaul managed to allude to in the episode.
Speaker 2: He was chatting to Michelle Vsage and Rhees Nicholson and
Speaker 2: was saying, you know, I think that there's something blocking Uri.
Speaker 2: There's maybe something in URI's past that's blocking her from
Speaker 2: reaching her full potential. Was he right? Was RuPaul right
Speaker 2: and saying that something had happened to you in your
Speaker 2: past that may be holding you back and maybe depleting
Speaker 2: your confidence.
Speaker 1: In the past, I've been in like terrible, a terrible
Speaker 1: toxic relationship. It doesn't Yeah, all that stuff where my
Speaker 1: exit at the time was talking down at me, like
Speaker 1: telling me that nothing, that my drag's not valid, that
Speaker 1: I should just stop talking, and you know that anything
Speaker 1: I had to say wasn't no one kid or anything.
Speaker 1: So coming out of that relationship, I was really, like
Speaker 1: I guess you would say, like broken and like not
Speaker 1: confident at all. So like finally trying to build my
Speaker 1: confidence back up as like in Dragon Out Drag and
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to find my voice again and
Speaker 1: everything my confidence that I used to have. But I
Speaker 1: guess going onto the show and then being put in
Speaker 1: this situation, I was still working for it. And there's
Speaker 1: still that voice in my head of someone that you've
Speaker 1: you know, that you've loved so much and that you
Speaker 1: spent years of your life worth just telling you that
Speaker 1: your shit, that you're worthless, that whatever you have to
Speaker 1: say doesn't matter. So it's hard to get that out
Speaker 1: of your head. But yeah, so I feel like that
Speaker 1: is what it was. But if I were to do
Speaker 1: anything differently do it again or whatever, I would not
Speaker 1: let that person still have so much control over me,
Speaker 1: and especially with by drag and everything, because like the ni' day,
Speaker 1: it's not worth it, Like I don't know, it's a
Speaker 1: terrible person.
Speaker 2: But I think what's interesting about what you're trying to say, though,
Speaker 2: is that when you hear about somebody in a troubled
Speaker 2: relationship or in an abusive relationship, whether that's physical or emotional,
Speaker 2: you think that would never happen to you, But if
Speaker 2: you have found yourself in that situation, you realize it
Speaker 2: never happens in a straight line like that. It's a
Speaker 2: gradual thing. You know, it starts with love. Someone said
Speaker 2: that to me the other day. You know, that's where
Speaker 2: when it starts with love and then people start to
Speaker 2: do the wrong thing by you, it's quite confusing, and
Speaker 2: it does take some time to be able to work
Speaker 2: it out and work out who you are again so differently.
Speaker 2: I think you have so much going for you, and
Speaker 2: I think slowly you'll be able to eradicate that that
Speaker 2: narrative that someone's created for you, because I think rewards
Speaker 2: will come your way and you'll see. You know, it's
Speaker 2: crazy to still have someone holding having that kind of
Speaker 2: a whole.
Speaker 1: I know it's like, oh, it's not worth it, but
Speaker 1: like you can't. It's not as easy to get rid
Speaker 1: of it as you'd want. To you know, like it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen overnight, and just working for it, still working
Speaker 1: for it and everything. But like every day I'm getting
Speaker 1: more confidence coming off of the show. I've gained a
Speaker 1: lot more confidence, especially in myself and knowing that like
Speaker 1: I am an amazing drag artist, I am really good
Speaker 1: at what I do. No matter what people have said
Speaker 1: to me in the past, it doesn't matter because look
Speaker 1: at where I am now, look at what I've done,
Speaker 1: look at what I am doing. So I just need
Speaker 1: to keep remembering that and keep reminding myself that I
Speaker 1: am amazing, even if I don't always feel that way.
Speaker 2: You know, you get that you're on a journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely.
Speaker 2: This is such a big universe. I mean it's a
Speaker 2: big global competition. You know, everyone's watching this show. It's
Speaker 2: so popular and you know, we may get a series
Speaker 2: three of this in Australia. Do you have a drag
Speaker 2: queen that you've worked with or you know who you
Speaker 2: would like to recommend for series three, like my.
Speaker 1: Drag wife flaw Mia Moore. Have you watched House of Drag.
Speaker 1: She's on House to Drag season two, Fulow. Guatemala is
Speaker 1: a beautiful country, I love her so much. You haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, but I haven't seen it. Watch it. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen her. Anita's show and Spanky's on it. She's
Speaker 1: on the same season as Banky. But yeah, so Flaw
Speaker 1: from Auckland. She's amazing. Yeah, I love her so much.
Speaker 1: She's like one of my best friends. And she helped
Speaker 1: me get ready for the show. And she would be
Speaker 1: she's such great, she's like such a great time and
Speaker 1: she'd be amazing on it. She would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to play a game with you, which
Speaker 2: is called shady old lady. You get the question, and
Speaker 2: if you decide that that's, you know, too shady, you
Speaker 2: can say I'm going to be a lady and pass
Speaker 2: on the question because you know, you think it's too
Speaker 2: rude or to you know, you don't want to answer it.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, you can say I'm going to be
Speaker 2: a lady. So far, this is the fifth episode, and
Speaker 2: everyone has never said that they're a lady. Everyone's always
Speaker 2: been shady. But don't let that change the way in
Speaker 2: which you okay questions. Who was the most talented queen
Speaker 2: in your series?
Speaker 1: I feel like it was Hetericonda other than myself, Hannah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was the funniest queen in your series?
Speaker 1: Spanky Jackson? Am I supposed to be saying anything else?
Speaker 1: Or just Spanky?
Speaker 2: Just Spanky?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Spanky's great. I love her.
Speaker 2: Who did you not like or not get enough time
Speaker 2: to really get to know.
Speaker 1: Forth first? Because she went home first. I'm just going
Speaker 1: to say that I've copped out that that's like an
Speaker 1: easy one went home first. It's not my fault that
Speaker 1: you suck and you went home first?
Speaker 2: Shady Shady? Who was the messiest queen other than myself?
Speaker 1: We'll go go Beverly. I don't know. I just something
Speaker 1: messy about her that I love. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Last question for you is who deserved to go? Who
Speaker 2: did you think deserve to go in this episode overall?
Speaker 1: Like in the challenge?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this with the challenge, Yeah, with the challenge, this
Speaker 2: whole this episode, the runway, the challenge, the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Who deserved to go home?
Speaker 1: I've answered this all like terribly, but I guess me.
Speaker 1: I've been a lady love. I pick myself.
Speaker 2: Can I just say I have thoroughly enjoyed watching you
Speaker 2: on the show. I think that you're very entertaining. I
Speaker 2: will continue to be in your audience and watch whatever
Speaker 2: it is that you're going to do next. And I
Speaker 2: hope that you get a chance to work on your
Speaker 2: confidence because I genuinely think you have a lot going
Speaker 2: for yourself.
Speaker 1: Thank you, No, yeah, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Thank you for working progress. It's a working it's a
Speaker 2: work in progress.
Speaker 1: Like, thank you so much. Yeah, thank you