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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Happy Families podcast Real Parenting Solutions every

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Speaker 1: day on Australia's most downloaded parenting podcast. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: here with Kylie today something different. Not so much about

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Speaker 1: solutions on the pod today as it is about predictions.

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Speaker 1: Jogi Bearer said, it's tough to make predictions, especially about

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Speaker 1: the future, but that's not going to stop me from

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Speaker 1: being confident. You're almost smiling at that one. Did you

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Speaker 1: like that quote? No?

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking whether you've started reading the stars

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Speaker 2: you're into your narch.

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Speaker 1: No, No, but I am. I'm pretty Some of my

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Speaker 1: favorite podcasts do predictions for the year, and I decided

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Speaker 1: last year we did a word for the year and

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Speaker 1: it just didn't excite me. We talked about it all year,

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Speaker 1: but we kind of already know what we was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be doing as parents. Didn't excite me or didn't

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Speaker 1: want to do a word for the year. This year

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Speaker 1: kind of just went meh about it felt pretty mid

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Speaker 1: if I was the quote our ten year old or

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Speaker 1: our fourteen year old, But I thought, I really love

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Speaker 1: the idea of predictions. And I happen to little bit

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Speaker 1: about parenting and parenting trends and I reckon we should

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Speaker 1: do some parenting predictions. So today my eight predictions for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five for parents and their families. These are

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Speaker 1: family and parenting predictions.

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Speaker 2: Number one, parenting style of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm making a prediction that we're going to shift away

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Speaker 1: from this idea of helicopter parenting and free range parenting.

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Speaker 1: Are you supposed to hover at that extreme or you're

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Speaker 1: supposed to go to other extreme and just let the

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Speaker 1: kids go for it. Carte blanche, go and fill your boots, kids,

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Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Into something more nuanced. Parents who

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Speaker 1: stand firm like lighthouses, offering steady guidance while letting their

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Speaker 1: children navigate their own waters. Not lighthouse parenting, I think

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Speaker 1: is going to be the parenting trend, the parenting style

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. Lighthouse keepers don't jump into the

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Speaker 1: water to drag ships where they're supposed to go. And

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Speaker 1: I think that with everything that's been going on in

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Speaker 1: the world over the last few years, parents are starting

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Speaker 1: to step back a little bit, resist that urge to

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Speaker 1: solve every problem. But they're also identifying that too much

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Speaker 1: freedom is not healthy. There has to be a really

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Speaker 1: healthy balance, So Like I said, helicopter parents, they have

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Speaker 1: free range parents kind of disappear. Lighthouse parents illuminate. That's

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Speaker 1: my parenting style prediction for this year.

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Speaker 2: In Parental Guidance Season two, we actually saw a brilliant

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Speaker 2: example of lighthouse We were ahead of the Babby and Jason.

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Speaker 2: We are much like a lighthouse. We observe from a distance,

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Speaker 2: but ultimately that they ever do get into trouble, they

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Speaker 2: can come to us and then we can help.

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Speaker 1: Them with a lighthouse parenting approach.

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Speaker 2: We can raise these children to be confident, strong, worlled,

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Speaker 2: happy adults.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were ahead of the curve in Parental Guidance

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Speaker 1: Season two. Lighthouse parents. They were awesome. They had their

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Speaker 1: I think Pepper was ten at the time, and they

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Speaker 1: just I loved having them on the show. They brought

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Speaker 1: such wisdom and they ended up really making a great contribution.

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Speaker 1: For twenty twenty five, we're seeing this emerges the correction

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Speaker 1: to our overparenting crisis. Lighthouse parenting.

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Speaker 2: Next two AI predictions, one for the lound room and

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Speaker 2: one for the classroom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, We're going to go from the house to the

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Speaker 1: school with two things that I think are going to

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Speaker 1: be really big. This year. The first is an AI

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Speaker 1: parenting boom Kilie. The greatest parenting library or resource that's

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Speaker 1: ever been assembled now exists, and it's in AI llm's

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Speaker 1: AI training sets. We're talking about grond called Chat GBT

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Speaker 1: or Anthropic or Gemini or I don't know whatever AI

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Speaker 1: platform you're using. Most people on Chat GPT, but the

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Speaker 1: some other brilliant ones that are out there, and it

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Speaker 1: has got all the information that you'll ever need about parenting,

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Speaker 1: everything from discipline strategies to bedtime stories, to breathing exercises

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Speaker 1: to do to calm the kids, down to lunch packing hacks.

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Speaker 1: Like it's all there. It's this incredible comprehensive parenting partner.

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Speaker 1: And while over the last couple of years AI has

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Speaker 1: been building and more and more people are getting on it,

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Speaker 1: I believe that twenty twenty five is the year that

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Speaker 1: AI is going to explode in our living rooms and

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Speaker 1: parents are going to be It's not like you're just

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Speaker 1: searching up something and saying I need an answer and

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Speaker 1: Google gives you two bajillion hits in zero point seven

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Speaker 1: substitute this ingredient for something else? Or that one doesn't

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Speaker 1: But it was different to saying, oh, Google says this.

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Speaker 1: Instead it was a hey, it looks like there's a

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Speaker 2: A few friends and I are preparing for a triathlon

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Speaker 1: Look at you, my friends. Well I didn't predict. I

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Speaker 1: think triathlon is going to boom this year as well.

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Speaker 2: And my friend sent me a message and she said, so,

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Speaker 2: I've just organized a training schedule with chat GPT, and

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Speaker 2: this amazing routine that we can all follow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's your training schedule for the next four weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, come back and report. What's fascinating is how

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, an AI search, if you use chat,

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Speaker 1: Google search. So you type something into Google and all

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Speaker 1: and Google uses an x amount of energy. But if

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Speaker 1: So my sort of non parenting prediction around this is

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Speaker 2: Or should I predict that electricity bill is going to

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Speaker 1: Well, Google's will, anthropics, will chat GPTs will. I think

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Speaker 1: the other thing to highlight here, just while we're talking

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Speaker 1: all the things that I'm predicting. I'm just highlighting that

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Speaker 1: they might happen. So you mentioned the living room AI boom.

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Speaker 1: That's prediction number two. Prediction number three is the classroom

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Speaker 1: AI boom. I think we're going to see massive challenges

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Speaker 1: as traditional schools become increasingly like landline telephones and a

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Speaker 1: And my prediction is that we're witnessing the death of

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Speaker 1: AI isn't just replacing teachers. I think that it's rewriting

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Speaker 1: the very definition of education itself. And as a result

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Speaker 1: the real battle in twenty twenty five kicks off. It's

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Speaker 1: not actually AI versus teachers. Teachers are navigating this incredibly well,

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Speaker 1: AI is going to enable. There's one more thing that

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Speaker 1: the schools and the teachers and the students who will

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Speaker 1: use it to enhance and improve thinking and an idea development.

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Speaker 1: Too many people are going to continue to use AI

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Speaker 1: as the one true answer, like a glorified Google that

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Speaker 1: is not going to provide an enhanced education. But people

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Speaker 1: who learn how to engage with the AI and argue

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Speaker 1: what the AI puts out, they're the ones who are

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Speaker 2: Recently, I had a conversation with one of our kids

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Speaker 2: who was putting together a cover letter for her resume.

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Speaker 2: She was adamant that she would not use chat GBT

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Speaker 2: said that's okay, and so she left the room and

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Speaker 2: So I caught our daughter back in and I said,

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Speaker 2: I said, listen to what we've now got with the

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Speaker 2: what it's capable of doing. And she said, no, that's okay,

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Speaker 1: That up right, So let me build on that. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to schooling and education, we're not just talking

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Speaker 1: about a cover letter for a resume. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: being able to analyze and describe and contrast and empirically

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Speaker 1: examine different things. The AI will give great answers, but

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Speaker 1: the people who are able to then read it and

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Speaker 1: in conversation with the AI, they're the ones that are

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Speaker 1: going to do the best, which means that they're going

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Speaker 1: to have to do the work first. There is not.

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Speaker 1: Everything can be instant and brilliant, and when it comes

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Speaker 2: Where you promised us eight the Year of the boy.

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Speaker 2: What is your predictions?

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Speaker 1: So my final prediction relates to masculinity. The game console playing,

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Speaker 1: over the last several decades, we focused and quite rightly

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Speaker 2: There's some big predictions you've got there. Are we planning

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Speaker 1: They're my eight big predictions for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you had predictions. I thought that you

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Speaker 2: Well, my prediction. It might sound a bit cheesy, but

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Speaker 1: I think that that's probably the most likely prediction of

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