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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Rap, a weekly podcast about women's sports

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Speaker 1: news and the big stories. Every episode will cover what's

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Speaker 1: happened over the weekend, a favorite story, and what to

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Speaker 1: watch in the coming week.

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Speaker 2: My name is Chloe Dalton.

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Speaker 1: I'm an Olympic gold medalist in rugby seppens and an

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Speaker 1: AFLW player. I'm joined by my co host, Millie Dawson.

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Speaker 1: Milly is an athlete manager who works with some of

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Speaker 1: Australia's top female athletes.

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Speaker 2: Hey Mills, Hey Chloe, how aah? Yeah good?

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Speaker 1: You've still got your women Play Sports t shirt on IC.

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Speaker 1: Have you taken it off yet?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I genuinely live in this T shirt. I don't worry,

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Speaker 3: I do wash it. I am actually obsessed with it.

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Speaker 3: I do not take it off because I literally love

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Speaker 3: it so much.

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Speaker 1: Mills, what have we got coming up on today's episode?

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Speaker 3: So today will be joined by Darcy Vesio, who plays

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Speaker 3: for Carlton in the AFLW and over the weekend she

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Speaker 3: actually became the first AFLW player to kick forty goals.

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Speaker 2: But first let's take a look around the grounds.

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Speaker 3: So on Wednesday down at Manley Beach, Sally Fitz and

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Speaker 3: Steph Gilmore were officially announced as Australia's two quota spots

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Speaker 3: for the Tokyo Games. Surfers representing Australia at this year's

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Speaker 3: Games will go by the name of Ira Kanji's the

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Speaker 3: highly venomous Jellyfish. So it was led by Steph Gilmore,

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Speaker 3: but the entire Olympic surf team collaborated on the name

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Speaker 3: and they were really keen to highlight their commitment to

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Speaker 3: being deadly in the water.

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Speaker 1: So the Arakanji's name was generously gifted to surfing Australia

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Speaker 1: by the local Arikanji people of North Queensland. So this

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Speaker 1: was driven by the efforts of the indigenous athlete and

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Speaker 1: the former pro surfer Solly Bailey. The Arikanji people are

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Speaker 1: an indigenous Australian people of Queensland who are the original

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Speaker 1: custodians of a coastal strip that runs northwards from cans

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the Tokyo Olympics, Japan has just announced that

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Speaker 3: they will not have any overseas spectators. Obviously probably an

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Speaker 3: announcement that we expected to come, just due to a

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Speaker 3: but nonetheless it's still a massive announcement and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: it's a big thing for a lot of the athletes

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Speaker 3: to not have any crowds there and they'll be interesting

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Speaker 3: to see how that the games play out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know for US, I'm quite thankful that Japan

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Speaker 1: are big fans of rugby.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the rugby issue would crowd there.

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Speaker 1: And probably helpful as well that Japan and Australia have

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Speaker 1: a good relationship, so I'm hoping that Japanese spectators get

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Speaker 1: on board. In triathlon, Ash Gentle has won the Malulabar

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Speaker 2: So as she's.

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Speaker 3: Actually the defending Malulabar champion, she's also the twenty eighteen

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Speaker 3: WTS Grand Final winner and a twenty sixteen Olympian at Rio.

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Speaker 3: She overcame a thirty nine second deficit after the swim

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Speaker 3: the race overall with minute twenty nine margin over second place.

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Speaker 1: Big news in cricket over the weekend, so one of

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Speaker 1: Australia's most remarkable records has come to an end. So

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Speaker 1: the new South Wales Breakers have been dominant for many,

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Speaker 1: many years, but this is the first year that they'll

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Speaker 1: miss the Women's National Cricket League Final in the competition's

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Speaker 1: twenty five year history.

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Speaker 3: That's huge news. Also in WNCL news, recruit Heather Graham

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Speaker 3: took out a five wicket haul and hat trick over

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Speaker 3: the weekend. Unfortunately, that wasn't enough for the Tasmanian Tigers

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Speaker 3: as South Australia got the better of them, buy sixty

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the key story.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen

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Speaker 3: this go viral on social media and on the internet

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Speaker 3: over the last kind of five six days. It was

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Speaker 3: to do with the NCAA's March Madness bubble and the

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Speaker 3: disproportionate allocation of weights to the male and female's bubbles.

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Speaker 3: Women were allocated basically a small rack of dumbbells that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the videos went viral.

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Speaker 1: There are a few of the female college players who

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Speaker 1: were like actually sharing photos of this, And when I

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Speaker 1: someone's just taking a photo of the corner of the

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Speaker 1: the original excuse from the nc double A was that

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Speaker 1: be enough room to put this gym equipment. So you

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Speaker 1: and then it actually pans around to this huge empty space,

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Speaker 3: No, And I think they got some measly yoga mats

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Speaker 3: as well thrown in there as well. We actually have

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Speaker 3: a little snippet to play for you guys from NCUBA

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Speaker 3: Vice President Dan who apologize on Friday in a video

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Speaker 3: conference call with media.

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Speaker 4: And we don't meet the expectations of that support. That's

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Speaker 4: on me, and for that, I apologize to women's basketball

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Speaker 4: student athletes, to the coaches, to Women's Basketball committee for

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Speaker 4: dropping the ball frankly on the weight room issue in

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Speaker 2: Do we think this apology is good enough. I'm torn

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Speaker 3: Story, and I guess things that have happened since you

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Speaker 3: we were just I know we were discussing this before

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Speaker 3: about how Sadana Prince, who is the original girl that

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Speaker 3: on TikTok as well as Twitter, and she thanked the

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Speaker 3: NCAA for fixing the problem. But I think we both

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Speaker 3: agree that it's kind of very stupid that women should

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I really struggle with this one because they've come out

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Speaker 1: and they've owned it and they've apologized, but it's just

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Speaker 1: not good enough to begin with. And there's this real

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Speaker 1: sense I know, as a FEMA athlete, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the time we're told to be grateful for what we receive.

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Speaker 1: So it didn't sit right with me that some of

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Speaker 1: the NCLA. I just don't think that you should say

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Speaker 1: been provided with equipment, but it's still subpar, Yeah, still subpar,

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Speaker 1: how much of that was actually done because it went viral.

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Speaker 1: How many times have there been inequalities that existed for

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Speaker 1: media and social media attention that have kind of forced

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite funny when I saw these images

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Speaker 3: of inequality in sport because what they were given for anyone,

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Speaker 3: let alone elite athlete, that wouldn't be sufficient. I hope

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Speaker 1: I want to finish this on a slightly more positive note.

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Speaker 1: My blood's still boiling, don't worry. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: really cool to see the power that individuals have in

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Speaker 1: creating change. You look at the amount of athletes who

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Speaker 1: thousands of people just everyday people who could share this

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Speaker 1: change to be made. So I think that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: big step in the right direction. In the presser this week,

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Speaker 1: the Carlton.

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Speaker 3: Set the record for the highest score in AFLW history

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Speaker 3: with an eighty seven to twenty seven win of the

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Speaker 3: Gold Coast Suns on Friday night. Darcy Vessio was incredible

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Speaker 3: third player in afl W history to kick more than

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Speaker 1: We've got Darcy on the line with us now, Dars. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on the win. What does it feel like to

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Speaker 5: Hey, Chloe, thanks so much for having me on wrapped

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Speaker 5: be here. It felt well, I guess it felt kind

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Speaker 6: I think I knew I had.

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Speaker 5: Thirty something goals, but it was when Gab and I

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Speaker 5: he asked me how many goals I kicked and I

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Speaker 5: forty goals because apparently, apparently I had dad Dave, who's

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Speaker 5: women's team. He had told her pre game that's that

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Speaker 5: I needed to kick three goals.

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Speaker 2: To hit forty.

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Speaker 6: So Gab was on top of it. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I'm glad Dave was all over it.

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Speaker 1: What did you do differently leading into this season, specifically

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Speaker 1: the COVID restrictions that impacted Victoria during twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it was pretty different for everyone heading

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Speaker 6: And I've never really been a runner, but I found

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I feel like each preseason I'm getting a

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Speaker 5: little bit more understanding of my body. But I feel

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Speaker 5: like this is probably the first one where I've actually

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Speaker 5: bit less stressful because I know that I have put

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Speaker 5: trusting that I've already done a lot of work and

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Speaker 1: Now, what does it feel like when you go out

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Speaker 1: and you're kind of on, like you kicked five goals

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Speaker 1: Can you explain what that feelings like when you just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love games like that and it come too often,

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Speaker 5: but I must have taken when they do.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I guess it's just a.

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Speaker 5: Feeling of wanting to be in the play and just

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Speaker 6: What to do with where to turn, and that you'll

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Speaker 6: So I think it's I'm a strong believer that we

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Speaker 5: But with AFLW, it really does feel more like a tournament.

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Speaker 5: I'm really excited to see the season grow, and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. The Baggers take on GWS

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Speaker 6: And you know, we haven't had.

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Speaker 5: The exact season we've wanted, but you know, we feel

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Speaker 5: Our game hits whether or not we're in with a shot,

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Speaker 5: The girls know that we're very much an outside chance

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I can't wait to come on down and watch

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Speaker 2: I'm going to sneak in.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to see Chloe. It's been too long.

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Speaker 2: How good.

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Speaker 1: I'll be yelling real loud from the sidelines or from

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Speaker 2: I'm mixing up my lingo Kimny Sports.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having your chat Dus, and again,

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Speaker 1: congrats on the weekend. Absolutely love watching you and seeing

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Speaker 1: how much all that hard work you've been putting in

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Speaker 1: is coming into fruition in those games. And good luck

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Speaker 5: Thanks so much, Chlori, and you've inspired me on the

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Speaker 5: way to chin up, so I'm really trying, Harvy, so

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Speaker 5: But love what you're doing and think that you're really

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Speaker 6: So well done and kar wait to listen.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, dus. Let's take a look at what

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Speaker 3: So, whilst on the topic of Carlton and AFLW, this Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Carlton will be traveling up to Sydney to take on

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Speaker 3: the GWS Giants. I'll be playing at four ten pm

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Speaker 1: You can watch this game live on Foxtel and KO

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be fun. Threw together you in rugby union.

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Speaker 3: This Saturday, the twenty seventh, the Harvey Now Festival Women's

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Speaker 1: So it's a cool combination of a tens tournament and

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Speaker 1: Round two of the regional aon Sevens series will be

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Speaker 1: into the national team can put themselves on display. This Sunday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty eighth, the Aussie women will take on New

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Speaker 1: of cricket.

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Speaker 3: The match will be held in Hamilton, New Zealand and

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Speaker 3: will kick off at five ten pm Australian Daylight Savings time,

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Speaker 3: the games in this series can be watched on Foxtel

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Speaker 3: and KO.

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Speaker 2: And that's the rap.

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