1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a man at Work song to 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: twelve hundred people. The men at Work began on the road. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't need did the people party in the venus? 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: But the bands was away long cozy and Lisa's to 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: the pub crawl. 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: So much fun the perf pub crawl. 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Unless we've been promising something a little bit special today, 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: we have because a lot of people have been asking 9 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: the artists. People have been asking the most for Dave 10 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: Warner from the Suburbs were spoken to Dave and Loaded 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Dice a legendary Perth band. Not only do we have 12 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: the man with the backbeat, Dave Dave is the mighty drummer, 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: but he's brought in the rock star himself right up front. 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Bick Haynes, Welcome boys, Reloaded Dice. Goodness Hya, Hi guys 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 2: for joining him. 16 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: Have you to come and yes, exactly join our pub 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 3: crawl now Loaded Dice formed in nineteen seventy four. You'd 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: be one of the earliest that we've spoken to. How 19 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: did you guys meet? 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 4: Well? 21 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 5: Dave Aunt should an interview, sorry man Aunt should nad 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 5: and for a drummer and as I recall, we had 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 5: a few good drummers to come up. Dave wasn't the 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 5: best right here, so but Dave wasn't the best. But 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 5: we had a manager the band to be game for 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 5: about two months and we had the benefit of having 27 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 5: a manager, and he said, we'll be able to control 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 5: this guy. And they just told me yesterday the only 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 5: new one beat, and that happened to be the beat 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 5: which agreed with all of our songs. 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 6: I just learned to count to twelve bars, so long 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 6: as I didn't lose count, I could do it. And 33 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 6: we did a Beatles song, and we did some little 34 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 6: Richard and I'm going God actually play three songs around 35 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 6: Chuck Berry all of that. 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: So we went along. 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 6: I answered the ad out of the Sunday Times and 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 6: I just bought this monster drum kit. Couldn't play it. 39 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 6: Got there late because it was south of the river, 40 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 6: didn't know where I was going. Found the place seven 41 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 6: o'clock at night. I was the first one off set 42 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 6: it up, started playing, and then I said, can I 43 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 6: just stick around and see what the competition's like? Monday 44 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 6: just got my license. I sat around and I watched 45 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 6: all these drummers and Dick and. 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 5: One of who was James Baker, who ended up in 47 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: the Yeah. Unluckily for him, or maybe luckily his drum 48 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 5: kit fell apart while he. 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: Was doing Got Up in One Lot. 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he came in looking like Brian Jones. 51 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, yeah, he had look that yeah, face was 52 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: all in place. 53 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, way back then. 54 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 55 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 6: And he ever found out later on that they got 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 6: me to join the band and then because they wanted 57 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 6: to mold me into playing more twelve bars as we 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 6: went on. 59 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 4: So we never got there day, No, we never got there. 60 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 6: We just kept we kept just playing twelve bars most 61 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 6: of our lives. 62 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: So they saw you someone that could influence and you 63 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: were malleable. 64 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 7: Yeah. 65 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 66 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 6: I was just sitting there and I watched the other drummers, 67 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 6: and then Tony, Fitzgibven and Dick came up to me 68 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 6: and said what do you think? And I said, well, 69 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 6: these are the three guys I reckon. And then they 70 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 6: walked away and they came back and said do you 71 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 6: want the gig? And I went okay, great, you know, 72 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 6: because I started a band I was about fifteen and 73 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 6: got my dad to drive me around the hotels and. 74 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Started looking wow. 75 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was good fun and the rest is history, 76 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 6: as they say, I survived. 77 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: Like most of the bands at that time, he started 78 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: out doing covers because it was for better or was 79 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: it was what people wanted, and you guys did a 80 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: lot of Beetles covers were well known for the Beatles. 81 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: Well. The story behind that was that we always had 82 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: another person in the band who was better than us, 83 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 5: and from the light through we got a guy. First 84 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 5: of all, we had this Vietnamese guy playing with us 85 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 5: Min Tran Huim, and he was replaced by a guy 86 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 5: called Mark Weeks, who was a sort of concert pianist 87 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: ended up playing for the ABC doing comedy stuff. But 88 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: for us, he was fantastic because he could play every 89 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 5: Beatles song and he. 90 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: Knew the harmonies to the moment. 91 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, we knew nothing about anything, and so as a 92 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: result of him being in the band, we sort of 93 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 5: learned very quickly and we were able to do Beatles 94 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: songs and you know, complicated stuff. 95 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 7: Yeah. 96 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: When Dick put the ad in the paper, did you 97 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: have Phil? 98 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 6: Then yeah, Phil was Yeah, Filing sort of started Phil 99 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 6: wolf Fill, the wolf Man unfortunately is no longer with us. 100 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 6: You know, they started the band, and then I think 101 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 6: Phil said Dick, well, look, you know Dick was just singing, 102 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 6: and Phil said, look, I'll join the band if we 103 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 6: get a bass player. So Dick went out and bought 104 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 6: a base and learned himself how to play bass. Work 105 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 6: on those four strings or yeah, well still can't play. 106 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 6: I just reckon it's fat fingers. Okay, boys, what about 107 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 6: the venues? 108 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of them don't exist anymore, but 109 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: we're the venues. 110 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 6: We started off at Steve's, the next ready made crowd, 111 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 6: thank god for that. 112 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 8: Steve was huge shoes, that's what we want to drink. 113 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, we were, you know, we're trying to get him 114 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 6: to help us load the gearing, but they wouldn't have it. 115 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: But busy drinking, looking at the looking at the river. 116 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 6: So after that we went to venues like the Hotel Orient. 117 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 6: You know that was a bit rough around there because 118 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 6: that was in. 119 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: Freeman became a Japanese restaurant, did it I recall having 120 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: that's Japanese there? 121 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 7: Yeah? 122 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 6: Of course you had Cleo's across the road and you 123 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 6: didn't want to go in there. Yeah, and then if 124 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 6: you were really gained, you'd go to Tarantella's around Yeah, 125 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 6: as long as you took security with you just in case, 126 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 6: just in case. 127 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: So it was a great venue. The Dimella. 128 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 5: You mentioned the covers. There was a period there. You're 129 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: right about the covers that just bet all the bands 130 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 5: were covers, and the period, which was really but very 131 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 5: productive in a way, was still doing covers. Notwithstanding was 132 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: down to Alberts Tavern, which was a downstairs that you 133 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 5: had to go down down flight of stairs. And then 134 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 5: with albert Tavern, the bands were really covers. But there 135 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: was one Duck Soup was a band, Sheriff the Elks, 136 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 5: but they were but the covers they were doing were 137 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: really interesting. So you go and watch a band and 138 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: you think to yourself, I've never heard this stuff, and 139 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 5: then switch you on to something. So Sheriff had Bernie 140 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 5: Lynch in them, and Duck Soup had a Manda Vincent, yes, 141 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 5: and she ended up in the So there's a number 142 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 5: of things. 143 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: And the Elks, obviously, Dave Brewer. 144 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: You're just trying to give us a bit of credibility. 145 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 5: No, no, no, just trying to say that it was 146 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: a rich tapestry of music there where we're all coming 147 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 5: down and watching bands like Last Chance Cafe, and we're 148 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 5: watching the bands and we go oh god, that's fantastic. 149 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 5: And then we go off and buy the albums and 150 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: get a whole lot of influencers. 151 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 4: So it was really really good. 152 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 8: Everyone inspired each other to in a way. 153 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. 154 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 6: Of course, the industry was growing then. Yeah, we were 155 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 6: sort of started off doing our sort of rock and rolls. 156 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 6: You had your bands like Clockwork, Clockwork Strawberry playing at 157 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 6: the Buragoon and sounds like a psychedelic band. Yeah, while 158 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 6: it was they did all Doobie Druthers stuff. I love 159 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 6: that hamond organ sound. So when I was underage, because 160 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 6: I was quite tall, I used to be able to 161 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 6: get in. But in those days it was you know, 162 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 6: you were what do you call them platform Yeah, bel 163 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 6: bottom pants and I looked about seven foot. 164 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: As could have worn those today. Yeah. 165 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 7: Yeah. 166 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 6: So we'd go in into the Buragoon Hotel and I 167 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 6: watched Clockwork Strawberry I think it was called maybe doing 168 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 6: all this Doobie stuff. Love that hamm and sound, you know. 169 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 6: So there's lots of venues that are unfortunately gone. 170 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 8: Yes, most of them have gone, but I'm. 171 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 6: Sure our listeners will remember one of those places we've. 172 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Met on, hasn't they? Yeah, which has been very why we're. 173 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 8: Hit, Yeah, tell us about the dis Sets. 174 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: The Dicets we had. 175 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 6: We had a lot of hardcore followers, but the die 176 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 6: Sets and Julie, Linda better Mention, the Michelle, a few 177 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 6: others there. They came to every gig and we were 178 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 6: working six days a week and then we went we 179 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 6: started a Monday at the Civic. There's another event, came 180 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 6: out and even if we had private shows, the girls 181 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 6: just say can we come along and we get him 182 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 6: in the back door and they were just very supportive. 183 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: One of the things, yeah, one of the things about 184 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 5: which was amazing on reflection, was that I reckon the 185 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 5: girls used to have a half life of about two 186 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 5: years in a way, so they just go all out. 187 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: So you'd get a fan, say, and they would turn 188 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: up every day every night, and you know, sometimes it's 189 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: like six six nights, seven nights, and they'd turn up. 190 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 5: But eventually they'd sort of wear out. But the reason 191 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 5: why they were they wear out, it's not because the 192 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: band had been through them at all. It was. 193 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: Because we know, let me do that. 194 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 5: Because because of the style of their life up till 195 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 5: three in the morning, and. 196 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 8: Then they were five or six nights away. 197 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: And then up going to work. 198 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember. 199 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 6: I've been listening to a lot of the interviews because 200 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 6: I've been quite fascinating. And I heard Alan Simpson the 201 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 6: other day mentioned that there was a lot of fun 202 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 6: and ferrolity playing onto. 203 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: The car park well. 204 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 6: As far as loaded Dice guys, particularly Dick and myself, 205 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 6: we went to the car park. 206 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: When we went to the car park, we. 207 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 6: Just put the keys in the car, went to Bernieesnie's 208 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 6: Hamburger Hill and then we had the band house down 209 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 6: in late and there was a Neat and Eats caravan 210 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 6: and then they ought his big blue nail and sign 211 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 6: on the top. And we used to know the ladies 212 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 6: quite well. And in the end they used to let 213 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 6: me make my own milkshakes, which was great. So while 214 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 6: some other bands were having fundsies, the rest of us were, yeah, having. 215 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 8: Burgers, having a Bernie. 216 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: I love the Dice out so forty five years before Swifties. Yeah, Dave, Yeah, 217 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: I want to know because I used to when I 218 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: was living in Merriton. I love seeing Dick and the Dames. 219 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: So this gentleman here on a Sunday night down at 220 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: the Herdies and I walk to the car afterwards singing 221 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: Rhythm of Life. 222 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: Was Dick Haynes always a. 223 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: Rat bag that didn't start really early because some of 224 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: the things he'd say on stage we would be cracking 225 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: up for the rest of their week. 226 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 6: Well, the great thing about our stage stuff was that 227 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 6: Dick would set up a situation and then this voice 228 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 6: from the back. Normally me would finish it off with 229 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 6: the one liner and people just say, oh, you know, 230 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 6: do you rehearse that stuff? And I said, look, I 231 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: don't even know what song I'm playing next until I 232 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 6: get to the ge. So we were playing so much, 233 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 6: and Dick was so you know, ex accountant, so organized, 234 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: and settlists were done, and we never did the same 235 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 6: things in the same order. We were rehearsing from ten 236 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning, doing either originals or carvers, and 237 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 6: then we'd. 238 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Go out that night and we'd play them. 239 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 6: But this man is one of the best entertainers in 240 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 6: the city to this day. And I'm sure as Dave 241 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 6: Warner and a few others have mentioned that, you know, 242 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 6: without having this man on stage was a pure delight 243 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 6: to go and see. And you know, people used to 244 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 6: come up to me and say Hey, Dave, you know 245 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 6: what's on? Can you get me a half? 246 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 8: Can I go? 247 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 7: No? 248 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 6: And it was, you know, it's just like I mean, 249 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 6: we went, just believe we went. We were doing a 250 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 6: gig in the East with the Angels, and I see 251 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 6: docums and out the back and he's we were just 252 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 6: we did a lot of supports and he's reading a book. 253 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 6: So it's just out there reading a book and he 254 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 6: gets on stage and he's a different person. 255 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: It's the same thing with Dick. 256 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 6: He gets up on stage and things starts shaking and 257 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 6: rattling and rolling, and the jugs of water and beer 258 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 6: just to get poured all over his guitar. 259 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: And I think I think the thing was. 260 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 5: I think the thing was with the stage presence and 261 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 5: all that that A lot of the bands in Perth 262 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 5: sort of got it, but you got it from a 263 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 5: from us, from partly from isolation, because you knew nothing 264 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 5: else is said the other band. 265 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: Yes, and to that that sort of work in your favor. 266 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 5: So when we saw Dave Warner, for instance, we first 267 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 5: we were watching him he returned from England after pass 268 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 5: and he'd gone to England and returned from him and 269 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: we're watching him and Dave. Dave got up and he 270 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 5: his first ten songs. I said, I've said to him 271 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 5: many times since they were so bloody boring, But what 272 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 5: he was doing was setting up and it wasn't really boring, 273 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 5: but he was setting it up for the bigger picture, 274 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 5: the bigger picture. The bigger picture was he just went 275 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 5: turned around with a mouthful of spit and skunk. 276 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, regurgitated a way up in the air and 277 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: the landed between one of our guys legs on. 278 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 5: So it was just a fantastic So to that extent, 279 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 5: I reckon that we were shaped. For instance, we saw 280 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 5: Billy Rodgers, Great Sexplot, who was great, Last Chance Cafe, 281 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 5: Last Chans Cafe and zider Cats later on, and the 282 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 5: Essentials and Dragon. 283 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: He was picked to go into Dragon. 284 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 5: So we saw just like that, and they like heroes 285 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: to us, you know, and you you're in the sense 286 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 5: of competition, I think, you know, I think the. 287 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 6: Great thing about that era as well, in that time 288 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 6: is that you know that the daily news was the 289 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 6: only way you found out where all your bands were playing, 290 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 6: and there was no telephones than your landlines, so all 291 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: of your mates that used to come and watch us 292 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 6: would just go, okay, we're going to say the Overflow 293 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 6: they go. They go there every Friday. They won't even 294 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: talk to other talk to anyone during the week. They 295 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 6: just go the Overflow and that's what they did because 296 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 6: that's where everybody met. But it was such a healthy 297 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 6: industry and half the time we never really had time 298 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 6: to see any other bands, except when you did the 299 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 6: Nook and Busters or the Belmont ball bus working. Yeah, 300 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 6: and on a Monday night, so we'd go a bit 301 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 6: early and watch a couple of bands because we see 302 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 6: all these names in the fab go oh who are they? 303 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: You'd pour over that thing like a horse tragic with 304 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: a ta B. 305 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 8: Have to work out, you know, what are you going 306 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 8: to do now? 307 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: Any incidents of particular, nota perhaps involving the Scarborough Hotel, 308 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 3: well you. 309 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 5: Know Scarborough Hotel. Actually he's a little bit of a reflection. 310 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 5: Scarborough Hotel was actually on a different circuit to us. 311 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 5: Our circuit sort of became the No Sweat Circuit ultimately, 312 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: which was run. 313 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: By Peter Hayes and. 314 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 5: Neil Neil Scott, our manager, and that was how the 315 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 5: Nookenborough started. And I heard you mentioned the kmar a 316 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 5: million of times. I mean, everybody was sort of the 317 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 5: holy grail of like. But the way that started was 318 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 5: the guy Michael Hodgson Hodgsons. 319 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: Hodgson was. 320 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: Starting off the pub, had this dream about having thousands 321 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: of people in there, which did eventuate, but he had 322 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 5: that place set up really badly. Peter Hayes was driving 323 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 5: by and told him. He said, mate, you've got this 324 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: place completely wrong. And Peter Hayes ultimately his fingerprints manager actually, 325 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: but he ended up being our manager as well, and 326 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: he had told him how to lay it out. And 327 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: then the guy said, well, you know so much. You 328 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 5: run the room. And the way they ran that room, 329 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: which is quite revolutionary, they carried on in the Dave 330 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: Warner loaded dice tradition of which had already become we 331 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: get the door. So the band's rangers and stuff like that. 332 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 5: You know that they went to the Looking Bar and 333 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 5: they just couldn't believe it because they were getting the 334 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 5: door the first time ever. Yeah, and plus you need 335 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: to personal pub. It was so in a way it 336 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 5: was fantastic because the bands in a way would love 337 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 5: to stay in Perth. But of course it's almost to 338 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 5: your detriment. 339 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 8: There was such to make that trip. 340 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got We've got great stories about that one. 341 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 6: But getting back to your question about the Scarbrough, we 342 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 6: were we were doing a Sunday session there. It wasn't 343 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 6: really our circuit and and all of a sudden the 344 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 6: police turned up and there was saying apparently there was 345 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 6: a bomb scare. So everyone cleared out the pub. And 346 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 6: in those days, I'm taking my beer, so they took 347 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 6: all the drenk. So everyone's out on the road in 348 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 6: the cart drinking. I'm doing a bit of a head 349 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 6: count of the band, and one of my roadies is missing. 350 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: So where's Mitch. You know where's Mitch. 351 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 6: I'll go back inside and there's Mitch underneath the stage 352 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 6: in the lounge. 353 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: I said, what are you doing that? 354 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 7: I'm looking for the bomb and I said and then 355 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 7: what Yeah, get out cut the red I got his 356 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 7: legs out here and then and then it was a 357 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 7: false alarm. 358 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: It was alarm. 359 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 6: So then we just we all went back in and 360 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 6: picked up where we left off on the last part 361 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 6: of the set and finished the finished he handed back 362 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 6: in and when. 363 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good different. 364 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: Mitch is still alive. Yeah, we saw him last week. 365 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: He's not working for a bomb disposal. 366 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 8: And you know he called it in. 367 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Alan Simpson probably started to disturb the peace. 368 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: It's funny because somebody you said earlier about all the 369 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: spit flying at a Day Warner show. If you googled 370 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: the video for Suburban yeah, yeah, if you if you go, 371 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: he's got the spit all over his face in the video, 372 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: which is a classic video. 373 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Where sticks jugs of beer over him. 374 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah. Something else you don't see these days. 375 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 8: Jugs are beer? No, no, what is that? 376 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: What is that? 377 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 7: Yea? 378 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: None real? Boys? 379 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: Was there a time when you were in the career 380 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: with loaded dice and you went, actually, we're going and 381 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: gone to the next level? 382 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: Here was it one moment? 383 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: There was one gig? 384 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 5: Was it? 385 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Well? 386 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: It was actually can I come? Yeah? 387 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 7: Gone? 388 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 5: Well, there was one time, and there was a few times, 389 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: but you're always sort of thinking about tomorrow and thinking, 390 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 5: you're can I have my own going a better But 391 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: we did play with split ends of the Stray shortly 392 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 5: be going on countdown and the countdown song was Mamselle 393 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 5: not not Telephone, and uh so we're going on, We're 394 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 5: playing with them, And there was a big thing for us, 395 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 5: a big thing for Split Ends, because the Split Ends 396 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: were coming back from with a rebirth with Neil Finn 397 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: Young and they they got up after us, and we 398 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 5: had been really successful in the gig, that particular gig, 399 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 5: we'd sort of like their fans, who are most of 400 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 5: the crowd, seemed to love us, and then they got 401 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: up and they disappointed their own fans because because if 402 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 5: you think about I don't know sometimes doesn't really have 403 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 5: a huge pub vibe. And there was a number of 404 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 5: songs like that. But then we went on to countdown 405 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 5: and it's a completely different thing because it's a pop 406 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 5: song and Marty, we even hadn't even noticed that that 407 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 5: song I Got You, We hadn't even noticed them do 408 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 5: it in their bracket, but when they were doing a countdown, 409 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: we were watching them and going, hey, this is like 410 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 5: number one radio. And to that story is we then 411 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 5: went to number thirty four in Tasmania and they went 412 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: to number one all around. 413 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: Twelve weeks or something. 414 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, But the thing was, we really felt a lot 415 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 5: of times, we really felt, you know, we all signed 416 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 5: up with w EA and we all signed up under 417 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 5: with coaches or same same like our guy and that 418 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 5: so in a way, we thought, and you know, we 419 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: all based upon our own music all of that. We thought, 420 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 5: you know, we're away, but it's a big journey. And 421 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 5: a lot of those bands were bloody good. 422 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah. I didn't realize until you were in 423 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: good company. 424 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: I've got a story for you. Adelaide. The only time 425 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: I ever felt like we got treated like rock stars. 426 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 6: The A and R guy from we A Records picked 427 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 6: us up in a limousine from the hotel and we 428 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 6: were doing the Adelaide Rock Show at the time in 429 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 6: the afternoon and in the morning we went to a 430 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 6: record store and we go there, well rock star so 431 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 6: they had the whole loaded Dice No Sweat album, now, 432 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 6: the whole thing done. And we walk in there going, 433 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 6: this is going to be fantastic, you know, ready to 434 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 6: sign autographs and do everything. 435 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: Not a soul, not a soul. 436 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 6: So what we did do is we flipped through some 437 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 6: albums and bought a couple of bec. 438 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: That was good fun. 439 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 8: That that was the only time. 440 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: It's been a total double trait to have you in 441 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: this morning, reminiscing about these great days that we miss 442 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: and thanks. 443 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: For the surprise special guest. 444 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: Thanks for having us. Guys, wonderful thing you're doing. 445 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 8: Thank you very much. 446 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: I've been a lot of fun and great to see 447 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: you both. 448 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks for having me, thank you, thank you.