Speaker 1: Good Day, Peter Hally here, welcome to you Ain't Seen
Speaker 1: Nothing Yet, the Movie podcast, where our chat to a
Speaker 1: movie lover about a classic or loved movie they haven't
Speaker 1: quite got around to watching until now. In today's guest
Speaker 1: comedian Claire Hooper, I'll have what she's having. You will
Speaker 1: always remember this as the day that you were almost caught,
Speaker 1: Captain Chack. I know it was your afraid. You broke
Speaker 1: my heart.
Speaker 2: You brought my heart.
Speaker 1: The happening right now.
Speaker 2: You ain't seen nothing new.
Speaker 1: Claire Hooper has been making Ozzie's crack up for coming
Speaker 1: up to twenty years. She announced herself as a Team
Speaker 1: Captain on the Good News Week reboot. On top of
Speaker 1: her killer Melbourne Comedy Festival gala spots, Claire is now
Speaker 1: the Coke Queen of Baking, a titled she shares with
Speaker 1: their great mate and co host Melbuttle on The Great
Speaker 1: Australian Bake Off, which has been a huge hit for
Speaker 1: foxtoel I'll gig with Claire from everywhere from the Karafa
Speaker 1: in Western Australia to my kids' school fundraiser, and she
Speaker 1: always always storms that. Claire is smart, warm, hilarious and
Speaker 1: I'm bloody stoke to be hanging with her to day.
Speaker 2: Ah say it was worth it. I was like, do
Speaker 2: you want me to leave the room?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Stay Hi, I'm Claire Hooper. My three favorite films. That's right, Pete.
Speaker 3: My three favorite films are Naked by Mike Lee number Bard.
Speaker 1: That's the trouble with everybody at all.
Speaker 2: So Bard, call me by your name.
Speaker 1: I just put it. The Buzzoni would have pleaded if
Speaker 1: he'd altered List's version and.
Speaker 2: Anchorman, do you know who I am? No, I can't
Speaker 2: say that I do, and you should never stop at three.
Speaker 3: But then he goes stopped, And until this weekend, I
Speaker 3: had only ever been allowed to watch the first ten
Speaker 3: minutes of Weird Science.
Speaker 1: Electricity Weird Nerd Revenge Fantasy. Weird Science is one part Frankenstein,
Speaker 1: one part Revenge of the Nerds. As Gary and Wyatt
Speaker 1: played by Anthony Michael Hall and Elan Mitchell Smith, are
Speaker 1: constantly humiliated by the cool dudes of Sherman high Ian
Speaker 1: and Max pre Rehab, Robert Downey Jr. And Robert Rustler.
Speaker 1: They quickly come up with a scheme to build their
Speaker 1: ideal woman with their chipbox of a computer enter Lisa
Speaker 1: played by Kelly LeBrock, who could be the original sex robot.
Speaker 1: Weird Science is totally eighties for better and worse. From
Speaker 1: the pen and Lands of eighties high school movie guru
Speaker 1: John Hughes Claire who Beeck. Can I confirm I did
Speaker 1: not actually build you to be here today? You are.
Speaker 1: I'm a human and you are here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I definitely existed before your fantasies.
Speaker 2: Of me, Pete. So yeah, I'm flesh and blood and.
Speaker 1: You'll appreciate you're wearing your bra on your head though.
Speaker 2: As Weird Science reference, Yeah, yeah, we okay. So this
Speaker 2: because this is a.
Speaker 3: Really big deal for me because when I was a
Speaker 3: little kid, me and my two little brothers got bundled
Speaker 3: into the car and we went to the drivings for
Speaker 3: a double feature and we watched the first film. I
Speaker 3: can't remember what that was. I feel like it might
Speaker 3: have been a Muppets movie, but I can't remember. And
Speaker 3: then the second film came on and it was Weird Science,
Speaker 3: and five to ten minutes in my mum pulled the pin.
Speaker 2: She was like, we're out of here.
Speaker 3: And as the kids' faces were pressing against the window,
Speaker 3: just trying to get the last little like like the
Speaker 3: last little dregs of that film, like we just weren't
Speaker 3: big enough to watch Weird Science. And for some reason,
Speaker 3: I've always I don't know, I've always taken my mum's
Speaker 3: lack of permission. Seriously, I've just never gone back, Like
Speaker 3: I've always been so curious, like what happens in that movie?
Speaker 2: And I've never watched it?
Speaker 1: How weird does a science get? I need to know,
Speaker 1: I need to know. Well, I look forward to hearing
Speaker 1: what you what you made of Weird Science from John Hughes.
Speaker 1: But let's go back to your other three films a
Speaker 1: world away from Weird Science. It's fair to say Naked
Speaker 1: by Mike Lee is a splendid film.
Speaker 2: You've seen it?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, only sorry. I would have seen it about
Speaker 1: six years ago, I think, so I.
Speaker 2: Worried that it would age badly?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 2: What was it like watching?
Speaker 3: Because it's because it's got that real like it was
Speaker 3: that real, you know, that autourish filmmaking. That was a
Speaker 3: bit scrappy, like it wasn't polish.
Speaker 1: I saw it because I love one of my favorite films,
Speaker 1: you Secrets and Lies.
Speaker 2: Oh, what a great one. My favorite is that one
Speaker 2: of your is that one of your top three?
Speaker 1: My top three?
Speaker 2: You don't have a top three you.
Speaker 1: My top three is I say Godfather Parts two and
Speaker 1: one in that order, but I count them as.
Speaker 2: One film, and then we all have top three teats.
Speaker 1: Yes, you can make apologies and special mentions and planes,
Speaker 1: trains and automobiles. Another John Hughes movie says.
Speaker 2: They are so good.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, like, that's the thing when you try
Speaker 3: and run through to find your top three, you just
Speaker 3: like it's it's actually this beautiful experience of being, oh,
Speaker 3: that's right, that was so good and that was so good.
Speaker 3: And I think I assume everybody does this with their
Speaker 3: top three. You just try and find three that represent
Speaker 3: whole groups of movies, and you just pick the one
Speaker 3: that most represent.
Speaker 1: I think I think you're right. Godfathers probably represent you know,
Speaker 1: like for me, that kind of the classic movie, the
Speaker 1: absolute classic movie Playing Change and Honorabiles is probably the
Speaker 1: nod to John Hughes and a lot of those warm
Speaker 1: hearted comedies, which I love.
Speaker 3: Because Three Amigos was nearly on my list because that
Speaker 3: and it was that school of like just a really great, fun,
Speaker 3: silly fascical comedy.
Speaker 1: So quotable, so many great lines, so many great lines.
Speaker 1: I was shocked to hear recently that The Three Amgos
Speaker 1: was considered the massive flump in the US, because here
Speaker 1: in Australia, I feel like everyone around that time.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know anyone that didn't love it, and
Speaker 3: we watched it so many times.
Speaker 2: That's a male plane.
Speaker 1: Tiny balls.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so good.
Speaker 1: I feel you so full of lead using your dick
Speaker 1: as a pencil. I'm not sure it's so great, such
Speaker 1: a good movie, and critically but it wasn't well received.
Speaker 1: And it was Mark Shaw's first film, and I think
Speaker 1: it was Chevy Chase and Steve Martin was so massive
Speaker 1: over there and everyone was very excited to see them
Speaker 1: work together for the first time. Both SNL legends it
Speaker 1: kind of underwhelmed people, but I think it's grown, you know,
Speaker 1: over the years. But all I know is anyone I
Speaker 1: know who has ever seen that movie loves it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: How extraordinary that it was considered a flop. Maybe it
Speaker 3: isn't AUSSI maybe it's more to Aussie tastes in some
Speaker 3: bizarre way.
Speaker 1: It's been ahead about, you know. Famously, according to Madonna.
Speaker 1: We were the first to embrace Madonna. There you go and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was Molly Meldrum, that was
Speaker 2: his doing.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, three Amigos, Maybe there's something about maybe
Speaker 3: maybe just at the time, it was ever so slightly
Speaker 3: distasteful to say these film stars are idiots. Maybe America
Speaker 3: was like, film stars are idiots and Australians are like, yeah,
Speaker 3: film stars are audiots.
Speaker 2: Maybe that just that core premise worked better.
Speaker 3: For us without like you know, like the tall our
Speaker 3: love of Tall Poppy.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, it's it's such a funny fem' seen
Speaker 1: three megoes check it out. But they can just go
Speaker 1: back there, okay, yeah, sorry, yeah, we know we can.
Speaker 1: We can get off, go off on tangents. That's what
Speaker 1: this show's about. But yeah, you so that Mike Lee
Speaker 1: style of Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: Was the first time I'd seen David Thullis and he's
Speaker 3: incredible and went on to have a phenomenal career, and
Speaker 3: he was so raw in that and I loved I mean,
Speaker 3: I knew a little bit about Mike Lee's style of filmmaking.
Speaker 3: You know, these people work up. It must be really
Speaker 3: hard work for an actress. It's not like, here's the script.
Speaker 3: It's like, let's just do session after session until you
Speaker 3: fine tune this idea of a character that's based on
Speaker 3: somebody you met once, and then we build this backstory
Speaker 3: and you live days of your life as the character,
Speaker 3: and then we put you together and we see the
Speaker 3: movie that comes out just exhausting and must be so
Speaker 3: stressful for the actors.
Speaker 1: It must be, I reckon, Mike Lee. It's probably introduced people,
Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of people to these new actors,
Speaker 1: and then they you become lifelong followers of these actors
Speaker 1: like they were frueleus, like you said, like Brenda Bleath
Speaker 1: and it was for me in Secrets and Lies and
Speaker 1: oh gosh, she was so good. Yeah. And Timothy Timothy
Speaker 1: I'm going to google Timothy Spall.
Speaker 2: Did I get it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think you get Timothy Spall.
Speaker 2: He's amazing.
Speaker 1: He's amazing, and like, you just feel for those characters
Speaker 1: so much. And I interviewed him a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and I was one of those lovely things we get
Speaker 1: to do sometimes when we get interview people. We get
Speaker 1: to say, hey, I you know, I thank you.
Speaker 3: I've loved you since yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah naked. So
Speaker 3: I mean the thing with favorite films as well is
Speaker 3: sometimes you can't separate, you can't separate from their context
Speaker 3: in your life. So for me, I just turned eighteen
Speaker 3: and I had to drive. I had two mates in
Speaker 3: the back of the car, and we decided to.
Speaker 2: Go see this film.
Speaker 3: And it was a long drive, and we got a
Speaker 3: bit lost trying to find this indie cinema that it
Speaker 3: was playing at, and so we were rushing in and
Speaker 3: we nearly didn't get in because it was our and
Speaker 3: they were there were question marks about whether we were
Speaker 3: actually old enough, and so by the time we got in,
Speaker 3: we'd you know, like like we'd had we we sort
Speaker 3: of already had some adrenaline going into this film.
Speaker 2: And then it was brutal.
Speaker 3: And also, you know, like I was pretty young and
Speaker 3: innocent to be watching something that's like it's.
Speaker 2: Incredibly witty and incredibly.
Speaker 3: Thoughtful, but it's got some like some hardcore like toxic
Speaker 3: sex relationships, you know, like it's really really dark and miserable,
Speaker 3: and yeah, and so I don't know, I just I
Speaker 3: think it was I think, you know, it was eye
Speaker 3: opening because it was the first thing like i'd watched
Speaker 3: a lot of our art house movies, but kind of
Speaker 3: more like curious Italian comedies, and you know, it was
Speaker 3: so it was it was the bleakest thing I'd ever watched,
Speaker 3: and so it hit really hard. I'd watched I think,
Speaker 3: I mean Secrets and Lies came first, didn't it. I
Speaker 3: think i'd definitely watched Secrets and Lies. I wasn't I
Speaker 3: wasn't a Babe in the Woods, but it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure which came first.
Speaker 2: I feel like it did.
Speaker 3: I feel like i'd seen it already, like I knew,
Speaker 3: I knew of Mike Lee. Yeah, and there was always
Speaker 3: a bleakness to what he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean like, because I would have seen
Speaker 1: Sigarets and Lies, I've got a feeling that may have
Speaker 1: come out. Oh, I would guess ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Maybe I love that neither of us has reached for
Speaker 3: our phone. We're like we're resisting. Oh okay, So maybe
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. Maybe it was something else that i'd seen
Speaker 3: by Mike Lee before then. I've definitely seen something, yeah,
Speaker 3: because you.
Speaker 1: Know, so I would have been twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 1: I think when I saw Cigrets and Lies and the
Speaker 1: idea that I could me being twenty one twenty two
Speaker 1: seeing Secrets and Lies by Mike Lee nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: It was confirmed. So I was a twenty one year
Speaker 1: old seeing Secrets and Lies, and I'm sure I saw
Speaker 1: it by myself. And that kind of film, like Michael's
Speaker 1: not making that for a twenty one year old, you know, twenty.
Speaker 2: Year old year old.
Speaker 3: It's twenty one year old kind of like fit like
Speaker 3: comfortably living white young man in Australia. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean the whiteness. They's nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3: And I think you're a bit like me. Like I
Speaker 3: was growing up in Perth. We were rich, but we
Speaker 3: were like we're pretty. We had a pretty blissful childhood.
Speaker 3: So yeah, to see how miserable life could get, yeah,
Speaker 3: was yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's funny because sometimes you can I can watch
Speaker 1: a movie like that and the like appreciate or feel
Speaker 1: the grimness of it or the the downbeat nature of it,
Speaker 1: but then come come out quite inspire.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: But don't you think Naked didn't do that? Secrets of
Speaker 3: Lies absolutely did. And then Naked was just naked relentless. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like not sorry, nothing good at the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love I must say, I do love
Speaker 1: that little bit of hope at the end of another
Speaker 1: film doesn't have to be even to be honest. I
Speaker 1: watched the last half hour of Magnolia last night and
Speaker 1: I love Magane.
Speaker 2: Sorry, why did you? Was it on TV?
Speaker 1: He's on TV?
Speaker 3: Yes, because that feels like a curious thing to do.
Speaker 3: Pull it up on Netflix, jump to the last twenty
Speaker 3: TV I.
Speaker 1: Let you flicked it on and it was on and
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I'm watching. I'm watching the last twenty
Speaker 1: minutes and I love it was one of my favorite films.
Speaker 1: And I just also watched The Nightstalker on Netflix. I
Speaker 1: needed I needed something. And you know, there could have
Speaker 1: been more cheerier things I could watch more than the Magnolia,
Speaker 1: but I just watched the performances and the artistry in
Speaker 1: that movie, and.
Speaker 2: Do you know what, I've seen it and it is wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And my favorite performance in the whole film is
Speaker 1: by Malaura Waters, who plays Claudia, the daughter who's been
Speaker 1: abused by Jimmy Gator and she dating John c Riley
Speaker 1: in it, and she goes on a day and she
Speaker 1: has that great line which I think from an if
Speaker 1: you're on her Apple song where it's you know I
Speaker 1: something like, ah, I'm having a great time, but dear
Speaker 1: mind if we never see each other again or something
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, right, and and she's great. And
Speaker 1: this the very final the final scene is her sitting
Speaker 1: up in bed and her mum's kind of come because
Speaker 1: all the frogs have come down. And then and then
Speaker 1: her mum kind of sees her and gives her like
Speaker 1: maybe a cup of tea or something, and there's some
Speaker 1: company words and she leaves and then you hear and
Speaker 1: it's it's all one shot and all stays on Laura Waders,
Speaker 1: and the camera just very slowly pans in that it's
Speaker 1: John c Riley coming to her, and you basically only
Speaker 1: hear in the background because there's a score playing, and
Speaker 1: you hear John c Riley just chatting to her about like,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever, you know, whatever it is you're ashamed of.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got this stuff, I'm shamed and we
Speaker 1: can we can make this work week. And it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: You don't clearly hear what he's saying, you just get
Speaker 1: that sense. And then finally, and it goes through about
Speaker 1: two minutes and then finally she looks at the camera
Speaker 1: and smiles, and it's just like, oh, that's all I need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is like, that is wonderful. So there's that hope
Speaker 1: at the end of a movie. And you can play
Speaker 1: it as subtly as that, or you could eat or
Speaker 1: it can be you know, saccharin or be able to
Speaker 1: stop and but yeah, you're naked. Did not give you that?
Speaker 1: Give you that, sup and lize there's a bit more
Speaker 1: hope to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So all right, So I put it in my I
Speaker 3: put it in my top three, and yet it might
Speaker 3: be one that I you know, like I haven't watched
Speaker 3: it yet, Like I think I've watched it a couple
Speaker 3: of times in my twenties, but I don't go back
Speaker 3: to it now. And yet I'm still loyal to it
Speaker 3: as one of my favorites ever. And it speaks and
Speaker 3: it speaks to that whole, you know, my whole twenties
Speaker 3: viewing of really, I don't know, just seeking out things
Speaker 3: that give you an incredibly different perspective, like even if
Speaker 3: it's really challenging, you know, like you know in your you've.
Speaker 2: Got the I don't know, you've got the courage for
Speaker 2: that sort of viewing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean once you have kids, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what what's going to put me in a good mood
Speaker 1: or a good space something?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: And I was talking to a couple of mates yesterday
Speaker 3: about their COVID viewing, and it's so it just comes
Speaker 3: up over and over. People are rewatching things that they've
Speaker 3: watched before for comfort. People are watching specifically things from
Speaker 3: their childhood. Like Ivanna Ristagett, a comedian, was saying he
Speaker 3: was watching he was seeking out stuff that was in
Speaker 3: his native language, you know, like so so like just
Speaker 3: really really interesting. And I mean, I don't I think
Speaker 3: I've accidentally made a comparison between having children and living
Speaker 3: through COVID.
Speaker 2: But yes, you don't. You don't necessarily.
Speaker 3: You know, there'll be all these movies on your list
Speaker 3: that you know you really want to watch, but night
Speaker 3: after night you're like, I'm gonna just tonight, I'm just
Speaker 3: going to pick something easier.
Speaker 2: And you do that every night.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, There's one on my list, which is Once
Speaker 1: upon a Time in a Manner, and I know I
Speaker 1: should watch it because the Godfathers are my favorite films
Speaker 1: and this is in the live in that kind of world.
Speaker 1: But it's a really long movie, and I do need
Speaker 1: to find a night where I can just must be
Speaker 1: alone and watch it because I'd feel too much pressure
Speaker 1: if like Bridge was watching watch it with me, because
Speaker 1: you know you want to, Yes, yeah, that pressure.
Speaker 3: You feel you need you need professional cruising to come back,
Speaker 3: or you need to accept a TV shot job that
Speaker 3: requires you to quarantine for two weeks.
Speaker 2: You need you need the space. You need the space.
Speaker 1: But also what Naked I think speaks to you as
Speaker 1: far as why it's still in your top three is
Speaker 1: because it's a viewing experience that you remember. Like often
Speaker 1: we kind of like there is only probably a handful
Speaker 1: of films where you kind of go, I remember the day,
Speaker 1: and I remember sitting down, I remember being blown away.
Speaker 1: And sometimes we see a film like I do remember
Speaker 1: seeing Sideways for the first time. But I must say
Speaker 1: Sideways improved for me every with every viewing. You know
Speaker 1: that I it just eventually became you know, like when
Speaker 1: I first saw it, I was like this, I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, but I wasn't like this is one of
Speaker 1: my old time favorite films. It got better.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where I watched two years ago Gatesye and myself
Speaker 1: got our dates wrong, especially a new movie that was
Speaker 1: coming out. It was coming out the week after, so
Speaker 1: we ended up seeing Harold and Maude and we just
Speaker 1: were blown away. And Yeah, one of my favorite recent
Speaker 1: movie experiences in that film, and we discussed it last
Speaker 1: week with Jordian Hickey, is that, I would say my
Speaker 1: top ten. Yeah, extraordinary film.
Speaker 3: I haven't watched it since I was in my twenties,
Speaker 3: I think, and I remember loving it, but I should
Speaker 3: watch that again. I will add it to my extremely.
Speaker 1: Long list to revisit. Call Me by Your Name was
Speaker 1: a wonderful film. I saw that in the cinema with
Speaker 1: Timothy Schalla May and the man who's turned cannibal or.
Speaker 2: Something what Arnie Armie Hammers turned cannibal.
Speaker 1: Well, he's been I think it even goes a bit
Speaker 1: more than that. He has been on a private account
Speaker 1: on Instagram where he's been quite vile and requesting cannibalism
Speaker 1: and wanted to eat people's rib cages.
Speaker 3: And oh K, that's really interesting. It might do a
Speaker 3: shuffle around.
Speaker 2: Okay, so.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it as a film, because let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about it as a film that's it's not his film.
Speaker 3: He was lucky enough to be cast in such an
Speaker 3: extraordinary film. Timothy Shall Mate was the first time I'd
Speaker 3: seen him, and he's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: That last like.
Speaker 3: The credits just just I mean, you talk about that
Speaker 3: Magnolia moment, it's really similar in that it's I mean
Speaker 3: not that it's this incredibly hopeful moment, but similar and
Speaker 3: that you cannot take it is so static and there's
Speaker 3: but there's so much going on and you cannot take
Speaker 3: your eyes off him.
Speaker 2: What kid like he is young when he made that film.
Speaker 1: He seems like he's he's arrived, perfectly formed. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like he knows that he's got a wisdom to him.
Speaker 1: He's so great. Also in Ladybird, I think they came
Speaker 1: out the same year, which is a great film.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: He's not as big and it's a different kind of film,
Speaker 1: but he's really good.
Speaker 2: There is no self consciousness to his performance.
Speaker 1: No, no, man, he's incredible. Big stuff. To be dealing
Speaker 1: with a big thing, yeah, big scene, physical scenes.
Speaker 3: Well to be that young, have the confidence to do
Speaker 3: the peach scene and her you know, yeah, so to
Speaker 3: have that much bravado or you know, like confidence in
Speaker 3: front of a whole film set, but still be able
Speaker 3: to access the kind of tender innocence of the first kiss.
Speaker 3: Do you know?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like? How can you?
Speaker 3: How can you be that brave but be able to
Speaker 3: show someone so scared?
Speaker 1: You're a parent and you have the same thought going.
Speaker 1: He's got good parents, like Timothy Shallamy has good parents.
Speaker 2: Holly Molly. Yes, much better than I.
Speaker 3: He's what can he can speak on billion languages and
Speaker 3: play the piano perfectly and acts like that.
Speaker 1: Shut up, yeah, yeah what I'm mister and missus.
Speaker 2: Job shallow mate, raised a good job.
Speaker 1: The scene I loved the most is towards the back
Speaker 1: end is that Michael Stilberg see with the dad. Oh god,
Speaker 1: that is just you talk about scenes in movies like
Speaker 1: that is just one of my favorite scenes of recent times.
Speaker 1: It's extraordinary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 3: And there was something there was so much to take
Speaker 3: from it for everybody, you know, Like it was it
Speaker 3: was like life advice to everybody sitting in the cinema.
Speaker 3: So that movie I had just had relentlessly recommended to
Speaker 3: me by a bit of a friend of mine, who's
Speaker 3: too prone to recommend things like she's very she's a
Speaker 3: bit too confident in her recommendations, and I love her
Speaker 3: very much, but.
Speaker 2: She just kept telling me to see it, but.
Speaker 3: You know, like, and I'd be like, she was staying,
Speaker 3: she's staying in town, and I was making some apricot
Speaker 3: jam on toast. I'm like, I love apricots, and she went,
Speaker 3: you love apricots, you will love and it was like
Speaker 3: the third time, you will love call me by your name,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, I'm absolutely never going to
Speaker 3: watch this film. And then went to the Nova with
Speaker 3: a friend one and it was like the only session
Speaker 3: time and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh my god, I don't want to watch
Speaker 2: this film.
Speaker 1: So I loved.
Speaker 3: I was determined not to ever watch it or like it,
Speaker 3: and she was right. It was very much my cup
Speaker 3: of tea. And I ended up watching a second time
Speaker 3: in the cinema as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, so real.
Speaker 2: It was a ripper.
Speaker 1: It was a ripper and well played, well played.
Speaker 2: Friends. Do you do that when people are like, you
Speaker 2: know what, you would love? You like? I bet I
Speaker 2: wouldn't and I will never try it. Are you that contrary?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Not that I would never try what. I usually
Speaker 1: have a like on the fifth or sixth recommendation, and
Speaker 1: I sometimes say to the person, I said, okay, you're
Speaker 1: the recommendation is now put me in the spot where
Speaker 1: I need to watch it now. Yeah right, And there
Speaker 1: are probably people who if they recommended there, I have
Speaker 1: a heightened view of their opinions.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I'm more likely to try TV
Speaker 3: people have recommended. Oh look, I just I mean, I
Speaker 3: just think that there was just something a little bit two.
Speaker 3: There was just a little bit too much smugness in
Speaker 3: the recommendation. Yeah right, Like I can't trust you to
Speaker 3: find this itself, so let me help you out. But also,
Speaker 3: can I just say I love this French just in
Speaker 3: case she's listening, love her deeply, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: And the Lightning up Now with Anchorman.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I had to put it in because that's
Speaker 3: that's that's a really.
Speaker 2: Like significant movie for me.
Speaker 3: And like, can I just say I feel like, I
Speaker 3: feel like top three movies is a bit rude, and
Speaker 3: you should have one movie per decade of your life,
Speaker 3: and given them in my forties, I actually should be
Speaker 3: allowed five.
Speaker 2: But whatever that's final, I allow this, yeah, Anchorman, because.
Speaker 3: I was about I was about twenty eight, and I
Speaker 3: just finished dating this guy who was divined by He
Speaker 3: was a film student and we only ever, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't we do only ever watch quality stuff. And
Speaker 3: I remember thinking, this is not what I need. I
Speaker 3: don't need another artist. I need somebody who I would
Speaker 3: feel comfortable suggesting a Will Ferrell film too. Like that's
Speaker 3: what I need to stop.
Speaker 1: I need to stop choice and life decision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to stop. It was a really active choice.
Speaker 3: I need to stop dating people who I try to impress,
Speaker 3: and I need to start dating people who I'm comfortable
Speaker 3: being at ease.
Speaker 2: Around, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like it was just this really big moment. And so
Speaker 3: when I met Wade for the first time, I was
Speaker 3: entirely unimpressed and blew him off. And three weeks later
Speaker 3: he gave it another crack late at night and he
Speaker 3: was very drunk and I was not in the mood,
Speaker 3: and he said, do you want to come back to
Speaker 3: my place and watch Anchorman?
Speaker 2: And I went, oh, hang on a minute.
Speaker 3: Pretty much we were engaged within five weeks, Like it
Speaker 3: was just from the Anchorman suggestion.
Speaker 2: It was on and thank.
Speaker 3: God, because we're still together fourteen years later, Like it
Speaker 3: worked out.
Speaker 1: That is so brilliant. I love that. I love that,
Speaker 1: and absolutely I'm so and I think it happens when
Speaker 1: you get older, Like I really love people who are
Speaker 1: so comfortable in their own skin that they don't exactly
Speaker 1: what you said that Anchorman is not. There's no shame
Speaker 1: in loving a command. When we're doing the film I
Speaker 1: Love You too. Brendan cow Off to make playlists and
Speaker 1: often they were like really eighties kind of you know,
Speaker 1: like stop playlist, and I thought, at first I thought
Speaker 1: he was doing it ironically, like a bit of it,
Speaker 1: like you know, this has been a farm but it's
Speaker 1: a bit shit, you know. But no, he was like
Speaker 1: he loved, he'd had a deep love for this music,
Speaker 1: and like and I'm kind of almost felt embarrassed. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: why why do I sometimes put that in in category
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, I'm only doing.
Speaker 3: It, yeah, yeah, Like this is too easy to like genuinely,
Speaker 3: Like it's too easy to like, so it has to
Speaker 3: be ironic.
Speaker 1: Adam Christie, Canadian comic and my best Canadian friend. He
Speaker 1: he was saying, how embarrassing it is that everyone's favorite
Speaker 1: filmy Star Wars. Everyone just just shut up and say
Speaker 1: their favorite filmy Star Wars like people. And I'm embarrassed
Speaker 1: because it's not in my top three despite the fact
Speaker 1: that I, like you've watched it any other film.
Speaker 2: It's really good and I'm.
Speaker 1: Completely there for any Star Wars you want to give me.
Speaker 1: I completely love it, but for some reason, I don't
Speaker 1: put it in my top three. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know it's so tricky because the top I mean like,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be honest about my top three, and
Speaker 3: it's true, but you also do feel like you must
Speaker 3: tell something of yourself in choosing your top three.
Speaker 2: And the problem with Star Wars is it's.
Speaker 3: Not it's not giving anyone in any insights into you
Speaker 3: because everyone likes Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's almost like it's almost like it's a given.
Speaker 1: Is a given that was there somewhere.
Speaker 3: If you're going to put three words on your Tinder profile,
Speaker 3: don't put I like Star Wars because everyone likes Star Wars.
Speaker 2: This is not helping us filter you out because you also,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: One two when you mentioned to three films, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: hope that the person you're telling all the people who
Speaker 1: were listening, like, Okay, well I hadn't had playing strengths
Speaker 1: and rebills on my muscive comedy list, but you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I will now we have a comedy that to
Speaker 1: chat about.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, we've talked too much about good films.
Speaker 2: It's time to chat.
Speaker 1: About there's maybe a little hint. Let's have a quick
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Speaker 1: scientific Clay Hooper. Okay, I'm intrigued. This is a film
Speaker 1: which was obviously it's totally an eighties film. I think
Speaker 1: it's nineteen eighty four from Memory, maybe eighty five, written
Speaker 1: by John Hughes, a film he wrote in two days,
Speaker 1: and at times it shows did hear? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well that was my experience. I was like, where was
Speaker 3: the drama tag on this script? Let me eat, I'll
Speaker 3: side it up a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't rate this with his other films.
Speaker 1: I feel this is John Hughes light. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, but it was a bit purpose written and
Speaker 3: maybe it was an ode to his fourteen year old
Speaker 3: self or something, you know, just like I'm just going
Speaker 3: to indulge this one, like this one fantasy of from
Speaker 3: my childhood or something. But yeah, so my mum, I
Speaker 3: would have been about nine years old. I would have
Speaker 3: been under ten when she drove us out of there.
Speaker 3: I reckon I had like a twenty eight year window
Speaker 3: where I should have watched it, And what's happened is
Speaker 3: I've gone back to it and now I'm a mum
Speaker 3: and I heartily endorse her decision, like because yeah, oh really,
Speaker 3: I think I got in my own way a bit
Speaker 3: watching this. But also, I mean it was a tremendous
Speaker 3: disappointment because I started out with Wade on the couch
Speaker 3: in fifteen minutes and he went, I'm going to bed,
Speaker 3: and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, that's where you know you've been
Speaker 1: married for as long as you're fourteen years. It's like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing weird scientist.
Speaker 2: Now I can't do. I into it. He'd already been
Speaker 2: scrolling on his phone.
Speaker 3: Then he's like, Noah, like it was it was actually anyway,
Speaker 3: So I don't think it's I don't think it's irredeemable.
Speaker 2: Is that would that be the right way of saying there?
Speaker 3: There are a few things in it that are glorious,
Speaker 3: and I really love a little you know, like I
Speaker 3: love a David and Goliathy can't or you know, like
Speaker 3: like little nerds come good.
Speaker 2: I love that there's an idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But as a female, what I'm just watching, it's
Speaker 3: like it is a very male story because the women
Speaker 3: are just like they are tokens of success, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like there's it's like where do I
Speaker 3: fit in as a girl, and especially Kelly LeBrock, who
Speaker 3: uses phrases like you own me, what do you want
Speaker 3: to do with me?
Speaker 2: And where you're like, oh god, this is not aged well.
Speaker 2: So I think, like I really tried to give over
Speaker 2: to it because it.
Speaker 3: Was it was a genre that I mean, like I
Speaker 3: loved John Hughes films and I love a little guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2: But I've definitely.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately I've had kids, two girls, and I was like,
Speaker 3: don't you dare you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like as in, so your only.
Speaker 3: Way you know, like you all right, so you've gone
Speaker 3: from the bottom to the top, and the way you've
Speaker 3: done it is by possessing a hot woman who you
Speaker 3: you know, who others want to borrow off you, winning
Speaker 3: winning your enemy's girlfriends off them again, just like like
Speaker 3: women as property or as an indication of success, and
Speaker 3: then you know, telling the bad guys that they're the
Speaker 3: F word, you know, like there's so much in it
Speaker 3: that's just like clang so hard. I was like, I
Speaker 3: should I should have watched this when I was sixteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and I'd forgotten that the F word
Speaker 1: and we're not talking about the usual F bomb, but
Speaker 1: oh no, that's right, the other one.
Speaker 2: We love the F bomb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely bring that on, so that that certainly ages.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the clear one is the object objectification,
Speaker 1: you know, of women, and there is no even the
Speaker 1: girlfriends of Ian and Max are not they're not particularly interesting, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah they don't and there's no.
Speaker 1: Reason why I don't wonder why the boys are really
Speaker 1: even into them besides the fact that they are the
Speaker 1: cool guys' girlfriends.
Speaker 3: Yes they are, just I mean, so, I feel like
Speaker 3: this is the actual correct use of the word token.
Speaker 3: They are a token to be exchanged when you go
Speaker 3: from being the popular boys to the losers in the story,
Speaker 3: and the losers become the winners, then the tokens are exchanged.
Speaker 2: So you don't really know anything about what the girls
Speaker 2: like or what their personality is. They have no story.
Speaker 3: They are just there to be exchanged as an indication
Speaker 3: of when the losers have become the winners. Like so,
Speaker 3: and I mean, it's all in good fun and it's
Speaker 3: very light, but it was, you know, it was enough
Speaker 3: to rankle me. Yeah, which is and I feel like
Speaker 3: such a Yeah, I feel like such a cranky bitch.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, nah, it just I'm sorry. It's just
Speaker 2: too far across that line for me.
Speaker 1: It's get the I mean, and Middley, I watched this
Speaker 1: is one of the films I had on VHS, so
Speaker 1: I would have seen this maybe ten times. I had
Speaker 1: not seen it for a long time, so I hadn't revisited.
Speaker 1: I had a feeling this was going to be an
Speaker 1: interesting conversation and a viewing experience. Last I like it.
Speaker 1: And it's really hard not to put the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one lens on the films, and it's and we should
Speaker 1: and we should.
Speaker 3: And we should and it's okay too, but it makes
Speaker 3: the chat heaps less funny and a little bit more
Speaker 3: school mistress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I'll get to the you know,
Speaker 1: any points that you know, things that may may have
Speaker 1: made you laugh. Certainly the things that made me laugh.
Speaker 1: But I think that watching it back and this is
Speaker 1: it's a film that does not take itself too seriously.
Speaker 1: If it maybe it doesn't take itself seriously enough when
Speaker 1: the initial idea is set up, the premise of building
Speaker 1: this and it's literally I mean, it's a big thing
Speaker 1: to do to build a woman with your computer, but
Speaker 1: it's so lightly covered. Let's have a listen to Gary
Speaker 1: and White and Gary pitching his plan to White. Okay, look,
Speaker 1: you know you was talking about how you can simulate
Speaker 1: all that stuff from your computer. You know what's the difference.
Speaker 1: Why can't we simulate a girl? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: guess I could, but why it's two dimensional on the screen.
Speaker 1: It's now flesh and blood? Gary, Well, I.
Speaker 2: Know that, But you know we can.
Speaker 1: We can use it. We can ask you questions.
Speaker 2: We can we can put it in real life sexual
Speaker 2: situations and see how reaction Like we're sick the manage it,
Speaker 2: you'd love it?
Speaker 1: Well, what about your girl in Canada?
Speaker 2: She was in Canada? The girls no morals?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't like that on a
Speaker 1: girl's rough having those kind of relationship. You'll see Anyway,
Speaker 1: get to work so yeah, it's very lightly covered with the.
Speaker 3: The science is the science is really interesting. Actually, the
Speaker 3: science is really interesting. But also can we just can
Speaker 3: we just acknowledge that they that he was Garyrus referring
Speaker 3: to it as it. It's not even her get it
Speaker 3: to do all kinds of sexual stuff all right.
Speaker 1: After when you were about to have a baby, you know,
Speaker 1: referred to it as it.
Speaker 2: So it's true it is an unborn sex to way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the science was magnificent, wasn't it. Because I
Speaker 3: was because coming into it, I'm like, hey, this is
Speaker 3: mid eighties and we didn't have the Internet, so how
Speaker 3: are they even going to begin to because in some
Speaker 3: ways it was quite like prophetic, you know, like they
Speaker 3: hooked into a government agency to get extra power, and
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, well that's really interesting. The idea of
Speaker 3: hacking into a government agency. That's really early Internet stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's before we were.
Speaker 3: Like the internet was in our homes in the early
Speaker 3: nineties really, so like in eighty five to have that
Speaker 3: kind of that science, and also, you know, three D
Speaker 3: printers and stuff like the stuff they're talking about has
Speaker 3: almost kind of that you you know, like that you
Speaker 3: do this three dimensional drawing on the computer and then
Speaker 3: you can actually build it in a plastic material.
Speaker 2: It's great stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff.
Speaker 2: The science is great.
Speaker 1: The science is irrefutable. This is my favorite site from
Speaker 1: a science perspective. I have it above the Theory of Everything.
Speaker 1: Just Stephen Hawking bi pic is.
Speaker 2: Some amazing science.
Speaker 3: Also should we should we acknowledge how great Bill Paxton
Speaker 3: is as the older brother?
Speaker 1: There is no doubt about that. Bill Paxton and I
Speaker 1: at the sad moment where I watching it, I'd forgotten
Speaker 1: that he had passed. And then I was watching watched
Speaker 1: a comic Con panel which was only done a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago with the three main actors, and yeah
Speaker 1: it was built backs and died a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: How did he pass cancer?
Speaker 2: I think, oh, man, that's right, it's I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I think it was cancer.
Speaker 3: And it's and but also like you saw him do
Speaker 3: heaps of stuff and he always had a twinkle in
Speaker 3: his eye. But you're watched him in this and you're
Speaker 3: like he was funny, like it was it was really like, well, he.
Speaker 1: Became such like such a warm, comfortable presence on our screens,
Speaker 1: like you trusted him in whatever position he was. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: One of his earlier performances was.
Speaker 2: Out and out asshole, but it's over the top two.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun felt like the flat top
Speaker 1: was his idea. He got it without consulting John.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 3: It was so flat that it looked almost bald at
Speaker 3: the top of the forehead.
Speaker 1: It was. It always had like a little dip in
Speaker 1: it like it was so it was so basif as
Speaker 1: a flat tip flatop would have been a great idea.
Speaker 1: But he's gone, He's found another few layers at the flat.
Speaker 2: Top, like an inverse, a concave flat top.
Speaker 1: Let's have it to listen. Actually, while we're talking about
Speaker 1: Bill Paxson and as he grills the boys, so you
Speaker 1: guys think you can pull one over on me, huh huh.
Speaker 1: You got everybody saying to the same bullshit story. This
Speaker 1: isn't bullshit.
Speaker 2: This is a Persian missile chip.
Speaker 1: It's Chat. My name is Chat. And I didn't think
Speaker 1: it was a whales deck. Honey, so good, so rank,
Speaker 1: so good, so over the time.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I love that audio clip, but also
Speaker 3: the physicality of this guy, like the pouting, and they're like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Facial it's almost like Jim Carrey s some of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, you're right, there's a there's a there's
Speaker 3: a Jim Carrey quality.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's really fun in that movie.
Speaker 1: And I was on this panel that I watched Elan
Speaker 1: Mitchell Smith, who played Whyet, who seems like a quit
Speaker 1: acting at twenty two, returned to it recently to do
Speaker 1: an episode of The Goldberg, which is like an age.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Yeah, yeah, because I was obviously doing
Speaker 3: the thing that we do now, which is like, what's
Speaker 3: he doing now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so quit acting at twenty two and yeah, and
Speaker 1: seems really happy and it's just like a lovely guy,
Speaker 1: by the way, And he was saying that Bill Paxson,
Speaker 1: out of everything he ever did, was the nicest guy
Speaker 1: he ever met. And he said and he said, like
Speaker 1: he's sitting next to Anthony michaelholl and Kelly LeBrock saying,
Speaker 1: you guys, I love you guys. You guys were wonderful.
Speaker 1: But without a doubt, Bill Paxson was just the nicest
Speaker 1: guy and most the helpful, most helpful guy.
Speaker 2: That's really sweet. That makes me so happy he does.
Speaker 1: And it's just so funny with that character chat we
Speaker 1: love you.
Speaker 3: Well fun but you I mean, you heard Kelly LeBrock
Speaker 3: talk in that. And what's really interesting is the few
Speaker 3: little things I read were like talking about how she's
Speaker 3: the best thing in the film and she's really good,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, like.
Speaker 2: Here's proof of the power of hot.
Speaker 3: She's not that good, but everyone's she's I mean like
Speaker 3: she's fine, but she's.
Speaker 1: Not good nice, she's not because she has some you
Speaker 1: got found a little bit inconsistent. I found like there
Speaker 1: are some scenes where I thought she was good and
Speaker 1: she wasn't.
Speaker 3: Quite hidden some scenes out of the park, and then yeah,
Speaker 3: some scenes she kind of delivered setups for punchlines in
Speaker 3: a way that didn't really help the punchline or you know,
Speaker 3: And sometimes I was like, is that editing or is
Speaker 3: that her? But yeah, she wasn't. I mean, you can
Speaker 3: tell she's super hot, and I finally see it because
Speaker 3: people are always like, oh, it is Kelly Brock, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know, because I reckon. Sometimes in
Speaker 3: a still photo, especially with that big eighties buff hair,
Speaker 3: you just are like, oh, that's just an eighties lady.
Speaker 3: And then when you see her emotion and you're like, ah, right,
Speaker 3: she's phenomenal, and she wore some in incredibly hot outfits,
Speaker 3: you know, like in a cool eighties fashion way that
Speaker 3: I was like, I was into her wardrobe and I
Speaker 3: got how hot she was.
Speaker 2: But she was not particularly good guy.
Speaker 1: No, no, she was originally played they Demi of their
Speaker 1: e stats in Back to the Future, where they really
Speaker 1: a model called Kelly Emberg was originally.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know so much about this film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the a little bit diving, and she had already
Speaker 1: shot a couple of scenes and then it's not working
Speaker 1: and they approach Kely lear Bronc, who's apparently holidaying in
Speaker 1: the south of France and having a great time, as
Speaker 1: you imagine Kelly le Brock would be doing in the eighties,
Speaker 1: and she eventually said, yeah, okay, come, I'll I'll come
Speaker 1: and do it. It is a pretty good arrival when
Speaker 1: she arrives with the daughter's about the leaning break break
Speaker 1: for women.
Speaker 2: So yes, yes, so cool.
Speaker 3: I mean, like there's some good little touches and she's
Speaker 3: just leaning on the door frame, like elbow up as
Speaker 3: high as her head, leaning like really kind of like
Speaker 3: the most affectedly casual pose anyway, she I mean, like
Speaker 3: she's really fun.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's really fun watching.
Speaker 1: What she.
Speaker 2: I mean. I was trying to I was trying to
Speaker 2: express this.
Speaker 3: Before this thing where you're like, but that is an
Speaker 3: eighties that's eighties hair and eighties clothes on an eighties lady,
Speaker 3: But she's twenty two. Because you know, like if you're
Speaker 3: our generation, you grow up associating that hair and those
Speaker 3: clothes and that esthetic with people in their forties who
Speaker 3: haven't let go of their hot child or their hot
Speaker 3: youth or something. But then, yeah, so I had to
Speaker 3: keep going, Yeah, like the face didn't belong in the
Speaker 3: clothes and the hair.
Speaker 2: Because do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You know when you go to like Slash comes to
Speaker 3: town and you go and see Slash, and there's a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of women that look like that, but their
Speaker 3: face doesn't look like that. Not in a bad way,
Speaker 3: but do you know what I mean, Like they're just
Speaker 3: a different age group. Now, yes, sorry it sounds like
Speaker 3: I'm being mean, but yeah, it's just like I just
Speaker 3: kept staring at.
Speaker 2: Her, going, she's only twenty to two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because most of most of the signals are
Speaker 3: most of the messages I'm taking from the s forty two,
Speaker 3: but she's twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I when I watched originally I would
Speaker 1: have had her. I can't remember thinking how old do
Speaker 1: I think Kelly Lebrocki is or Lisa is in this role?
Speaker 1: But I thought she was quite a bit older than that.
Speaker 1: And then and there is a slight weirdness that it's
Speaker 1: a fifteen Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, exactly, she's showering with them and they're under eighteen.
Speaker 3: It's like, I know, you've just been born, but surely
Speaker 3: you know that this is a legitimy ize a little lore.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. And you know World one John
Speaker 1: Hughes for not shooting trying to shoot a sex scene,
Speaker 1: you know, the kissing scene. That's what we see between
Speaker 1: the Laan and White and Lisa, and you know it's
Speaker 1: it's it's tender enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It is a really cool thing that I like that
Speaker 3: it's been scripted so that these guys are too nervous
Speaker 3: to actually follow through with her.
Speaker 2: Yes, And all she does is.
Speaker 3: Create, is kind of create the adventure that brings them
Speaker 3: out of their shells enough to win the hearts of
Speaker 3: the girls. They actually did like that is great. Structurally
Speaker 3: that works because it makes you not have to watch
Speaker 3: them both route them like the sex toy they share.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think the points you made bang
Speaker 1: on totally. But this could have been a way worse
Speaker 1: version of this film. There's a there's a creepy it's
Speaker 1: an even creepier version of this film.
Speaker 3: If they were having Yeah, that's that's John Hughes's end
Speaker 3: of the first day draft.
Speaker 2: So thank god he put in the second day.
Speaker 1: Always do that second day and you sooner.
Speaker 3: Take a day and be like, actually, we'll definitely take
Speaker 3: this out.
Speaker 1: A little fun fact, Kelly LeBrock actually was married to
Speaker 1: Steven Siegal.
Speaker 2: She did a film with him. Did she get married to.
Speaker 1: Him half to I think it's around that time, so
Speaker 1: that's cute. She did the Gene Wilder film Woman in Red, Yes,
Speaker 1: the Great Dream Wilder around this time. I think she'd
Speaker 1: either shot it or maybe shot it straight after wed Science,
Speaker 1: and then there might have been another film I think
Speaker 1: she did, but then Hard to Kill I think in
Speaker 1: the nineties, and then she didn't really make any other
Speaker 1: decent films.
Speaker 3: Well that's I mean, because she wasn't more models. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she was a model rather than actress. So yeah, there
Speaker 3: was a yeah, and she was a great model, Like
Speaker 3: I don't think she was just hot.
Speaker 2: I think she was good at modeling, yes, and you know, just.
Speaker 1: Okay and acting. Yeah. Around that time, I think there's
Speaker 1: more models who have have taken I think back then
Speaker 1: they were just modeling and then if they got off
Speaker 1: at a role because they were a model, they Yeah.
Speaker 2: Cameron Diaz, she took it and ran with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think those people like Cameron Diaz and
Speaker 1: you know, more recent models who have turned acting, I
Speaker 1: think they take it more seriously earlier on that. They
Speaker 1: probably think get the coach.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right there.
Speaker 3: Their modeling agency is like, okay, you know, like their managers,
Speaker 3: this is going, well, do you want to do some
Speaker 3: weekend classes with this really good acting coach.
Speaker 2: Let's get you ready for your Hollywood career.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is probably the.
Speaker 1: More Emily rhousekis or it's a.
Speaker 2: Name that I oh, the acting coach is that.
Speaker 1: No, No, she's like an real hot model. She's in
Speaker 1: the Benethletic girl that you know, the murder one.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to help you.
Speaker 1: Oh, gone girl, Gone girl. Yes, Girl on the Train,
Speaker 1: Gone Girl. She's in that. She played the midst he
Speaker 1: was having a fair with with her. So there's models
Speaker 1: like that who are kind of doing, you know, I think,
Speaker 1: the work to become better actors.
Speaker 2: And that's great, but also back off.
Speaker 3: You know, there's some really average looking women out there
Speaker 3: who are phenomenal actors, and you know, like, just give
Speaker 3: them a go to do the thing they've desperately wanted,
Speaker 3: you know, like they've been passionate about acting all their
Speaker 3: life and then you just whilst in your like they
Speaker 3: have done for weekends of acting training and I'm super hard,
Speaker 3: So rack off.
Speaker 2: Let's just I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if it's I don't know if it's my
Speaker 3: own insecurities, but god, it's a joy when you watch
Speaker 3: somebody normal looking on screen or I mean, and I
Speaker 3: know that people we call normal looking you see them
Speaker 3: in person, you're like, gouh oh, you're really beautiful, do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like normal on screen is
Speaker 3: actually still real world stunning.
Speaker 1: But you know, like gets a lot of that, doesn't
Speaker 1: She gets reviews kind of saying, oh, it's got to
Speaker 1: see something.
Speaker 2: See some of them normal.
Speaker 1: She goes, well, you know, I mean eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like on screen six is real world nine for sures,
Speaker 3: but still is it honest? Every now and then you
Speaker 3: come across a TV show or a movie where there'll
Speaker 3: just be a few more slightly more normal faces or
Speaker 3: even heaven forbid, kind of like pretty ugly, you know,
Speaker 3: like those you know, like odd faces, and God, I
Speaker 3: just feed something deep inside me. It's like there's room
Speaker 3: for the rest of us in the world, you know.
Speaker 1: The role was also anymore auditioned?
Speaker 2: Oh really?
Speaker 1: Yes? And Robin Wright, Oh.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel happy for her she didn't get it.
Speaker 3: I feel like her career is better without that stain.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think we science is better with
Speaker 1: Kelly LeBrock in it for everyone. Yeah, and I do
Speaker 1: also feel that there needed to be like that.
Speaker 2: It actually is. Yeah, it's better that she.
Speaker 1: She's almost like that kind of model playbook cover of
Speaker 1: Playboy kind of look about her.
Speaker 3: She's got to look like a model. Obviously, that's in
Speaker 3: the script altunately. And then yes, it actually is kind
Speaker 3: of fun that her lines are not delivered with a
Speaker 3: massive amount of power, that they kind of just trip
Speaker 3: out of her mouth like she's reading a menu, like
Speaker 3: that actually works for the for the sex toy concept.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it does. Hey, yes, Ethie Michael Hall passed
Speaker 1: on doing European Vacation to do this movie because he was,
Speaker 1: of course Rusty Griswold, the best Rusty in my humble opinion,
Speaker 1: and he he passed, which is funny because John Hughes
Speaker 1: wrote vacation. I'm not sure if you wrote European Vacation.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, all right, yeah.
Speaker 1: So he passed on that, which began then what became
Speaker 1: a tradition that the Rusties and Audgeries were always played
Speaker 1: by different characters.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah right right.
Speaker 1: A little fun fact, good.
Speaker 2: Good fun fact.
Speaker 1: The movie starts, obviously, with Elan's parents gone away. Did
Speaker 1: you have any kind of when the Missters Mississippi went away?
Speaker 1: Do you have we like the party house.
Speaker 3: Or the only happened once? And they weren't away on holiday.
Speaker 3: They would never go away on holiday. I was the eldest, oldest,
Speaker 3: not eldest oldest, two younger brothers, so I was not
Speaker 3: going to have them leave me and two little kids
Speaker 3: in my party prime, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So I reckon that's that sort of stuff happens when
Speaker 3: you are as why it was the younger sibling. Right,
Speaker 3: when there's no and when there's no one younger than
Speaker 3: you to look after, then your parents are like, you
Speaker 3: know what, we could do a weekend away. You'll be right,
Speaker 3: you're sixteen. Yeah, so we did do When my mom
Speaker 3: and dad went out to a friend's house.
Speaker 2: We had some mates over, like I had. It wasn't
Speaker 2: a party party, but it was like maybe ten mates
Speaker 2: and a girl had an asthma attack or an anxiety attack,
Speaker 2: not sure, you know. A girl with asthma had trouble.
Speaker 3: Breathing and had to call mama dad home, and her
Speaker 3: mum didn't know that my mom and dad weren't going.
Speaker 2: To be there, so there was all that fallout.
Speaker 3: And so it was only once and it wasn't a
Speaker 3: fun party and it ended badly with people being annoyed
Speaker 3: at each other. Right, yeah, anyway, so so was that
Speaker 3: a good Did.
Speaker 2: You have any good?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, yeah, once we had a pretty good party
Speaker 1: at my place where mum and dad were. Were nothing
Speaker 1: really broken or anything like that. I remember we had
Speaker 1: like a back like a back room with like an
Speaker 1: archway which went into the rest of the house. They
Speaker 1: had like yeah, what you might call a rumpus room
Speaker 1: or a living room.
Speaker 2: How good to rumpus.
Speaker 1: I love a rumpus room. Yeah, and with a bedroom
Speaker 1: and a toilet kind of out the back. So I
Speaker 1: remember getting our b table. It was one of those
Speaker 1: not one of it you could collapse easily, you know,
Speaker 1: not you know, you could get the legs out of
Speaker 1: ye but you can move it easier. Not one of
Speaker 1: the you know, you know, kind of plated, kind of
Speaker 1: poor tables. And we put it up against the arch.
Speaker 1: We said no, we could go through to the rest
Speaker 1: of the house. Amazing, So I thought that was pretty responsible.
Speaker 1: So nothing, there's no controversy there. My mate, my best mate, Kier,
Speaker 1: and when we were fifteen, his parents went to the
Speaker 1: States for like three or four weeks, and my life
Speaker 1: changed over that period because I spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time over there and just being boys, discovering drinking, and
Speaker 1: we had a good bunch of you know, well, we
Speaker 1: had a friend who lived in the court, Kate, who
Speaker 1: we knew this growing up with Kieren particularly, and so
Speaker 1: she invited some of her friends over and it was
Speaker 1: and nothing nothing.
Speaker 2: Not as good as Whitt's party, but pretty good.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't as good as whites party. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just good at like just the excitement of being
Speaker 1: around girls, like nothing was nobody was anything like that.
Speaker 2: No, I loved it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You didn't even need the parents to be gone.
Speaker 3: It's just just work around the outskirts with your mates.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I remember one mate being like a bit
Speaker 1: like phantom pissed, you know, and maybe looking back, he
Speaker 1: actually maybe he was a little bit pissed because we
Speaker 1: were fifteen. You know, we don't need too much to
Speaker 1: drink to get us pissed, but like falling off the cat,
Speaker 1: oh a bit fish mate on your second beer. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was that was fun. But I do kind
Speaker 1: of think back going if that didn't happen, it probably
Speaker 1: would have delayed us drinking and probably then binge drinking.
Speaker 1: You know, So this part of me like probably wasn't
Speaker 1: for the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what to Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: what to think about that.
Speaker 3: Surely you would have found a way if you were inclined, surely, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was an odd duck because you know, while my
Speaker 3: friends drank, I was never really into it, and I
Speaker 3: continued into me.
Speaker 2: I don't know, for a long time, I was like,
Speaker 2: what's wrong with me?
Speaker 3: And now I'm like, Hi, I am so lucky not
Speaker 3: to be somebody who has a hankering to drink, right,
Speaker 3: And I feel really grateful that I was confident enough
Speaker 3: not to as well at school, you know, like because
Speaker 3: it was kind of hard sometimes, I think smoking where
Speaker 3: you were like, yeah, set myself up for this habit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you.
Speaker 3: Good like because it yeah, when your mate are doing something,
Speaker 3: it's a weird thing to be like no anyway, but
Speaker 3: you know, we had another mate who was who'd never
Speaker 3: drunk before, and then at one of the parties, he
Speaker 3: obviously just went all in in a like I can't
Speaker 3: you know, like I've got to do this. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he and we ended up having a call an ambulance
Speaker 3: because he was comatose, and his parents were so heartbroken
Speaker 3: because he came from a family of teetotalism.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah, so but.
Speaker 3: But I mean, like what I saw was him going, well,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to so I've got to get.
Speaker 2: This over with, which is so it's so sad. Pean
Speaker 2: Fresh is so sad, isn't it?
Speaker 1: And I really thrilled my eighteen year old doesn't drink
Speaker 1: what no interest?
Speaker 2: Was that the story? Or is that for reals?
Speaker 1: No, that's real, that's real, Like, oh my goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Another one of us with such rare flower is we
Speaker 2: little non drinking.
Speaker 1: Well, the kids are drinking less than they used to.
Speaker 1: They I think a lot of us got to do
Speaker 1: with gaming has become a bigger thing, and they just
Speaker 1: feel like that they get their kind of fix of
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And it's not like alcohol helps you game,
Speaker 2: does it?
Speaker 1: No? No, exactly exactly right. And the other thing I
Speaker 1: think is the social media and everyone's got phones, so
Speaker 1: that lack of control. Lee, my oldest is also like
Speaker 1: has asthmatic and has allergies on top of his allergies.
Speaker 1: Now he's not as bad as he used to be,
Speaker 1: but I think this that so when you grow up
Speaker 1: with allergies and asthma, not having control, I think is
Speaker 1: a genuine, you know thing, Like, so they the fear
Speaker 1: of not being controlled. He that I think that's my
Speaker 1: reading of it. He doesn't necessarily, he doesn't deep dive
Speaker 1: with me about why he doesn't, and he doesn't have to.
Speaker 1: My sixteen year old has started they head his first
Speaker 1: and Year's Eve, he was able to have a couple
Speaker 1: of drinks with his friends. Had to kind of text
Speaker 1: the parents and say this is happening and you cool
Speaker 1: this and like as weird as a parent feeling like
Speaker 1: I am I a square? Am I what's going on here?
Speaker 2: But he texted you to check in about it. Hey,
Speaker 2: you've done a good job, or as good as the
Speaker 2: shell amount.
Speaker 1: We had the kids over at our house, so he asked,
Speaker 1: and then I said, you can, but I'm texting tell
Speaker 1: me who's coming, and I'll text their parents and say
Speaker 1: this is happening. So you're only sixteen, like this is
Speaker 1: not yea and yeah, and that a great night. They
Speaker 1: all stayed the night and had a fun night.
Speaker 2: And no ambulance.
Speaker 1: One of the kids left at about like one o'clock
Speaker 1: or something, and I was like, okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: text your parents. Let you know this. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: just want to be you know.
Speaker 3: Look at this, I mean, look at this teenager last
Speaker 3: that's ahead of me.
Speaker 2: Where you get to.
Speaker 3: Stay up like because because first of all, you're the guy,
Speaker 3: You're the person who stays up till five New Years Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then you become the person who's like, I'm old
Speaker 3: enough to go to bed before midnight if I want to.
Speaker 2: And then you become a parent of teenagers and you're like, I.
Speaker 3: Have to start up till five in caretaker mode, like
Speaker 3: the worst?
Speaker 1: Why is this thing? You think once they get older,
Speaker 1: I'll be the freedom will have. But then you think,
Speaker 1: by the way, can you drive me to basketball like
Speaker 1: thirty on a Saturday night. It's like, oh, well, there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: Yuck.
Speaker 1: That happened on the of the weekend as a result,
Speaker 1: So I got home at like nine thirty from the
Speaker 1: basketball game, and the bridge got home and she had
Speaker 1: made a martini and I wasn't going to drink. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I have a martini. You're gone. You
Speaker 1: have for making one. And then before we know it's
Speaker 1: three o'clock and tist we had the later start.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, well that's great, congratulations, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: you're staying.
Speaker 2: Up till three.
Speaker 1: It's all you'll get it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will never get it back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The movie opens the dacking scene. Daking was very
Speaker 1: big boys culture. Is there a female?
Speaker 2: Is there a female equivalent? No?
Speaker 3: I mean there's been some great comics that have done
Speaker 3: gear on it. But you know, the female equivalent of
Speaker 3: dacking is just spreading a terrible rumor that you gave
Speaker 3: some guy a blowjob, or looking at it and look
Speaker 3: or looking in your eye with a kind face, telling
Speaker 3: you something that you need to fix about yourself.
Speaker 1: Girls are the worst. So guys, just get the job.
Speaker 1: It's very over, it's very overt. Yeah, the covert operations
Speaker 1: are going.
Speaker 3: Don't pretend that boys aren't giving each other insecurities about
Speaker 3: their bodies or spreading rumors about each other.
Speaker 2: You get it all. Don't pretend it's just But I
Speaker 2: do think.
Speaker 3: Girls are particularly good at those really like potent gas
Speaker 3: lighting moments.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like do you like your hair
Speaker 2: like that? Ah? You know, just stuff like that anyway,
Speaker 2: great times. Do you know what's the worst. The worst
Speaker 2: girl thing is just complete silence. You know when you
Speaker 2: walk past a group of girls and they go silent
Speaker 2: and just look at you. Oh wow, that's brutal power
Speaker 2: games going on so hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd like, if you knew that a group of
Speaker 3: particularly frightened girls were in on one corridor, you would
Speaker 3: go the long way around to a class to not
Speaker 3: walk by them, because you just feel so coming up
Speaker 3: to them is hard, but walking away from them you
Speaker 3: feel so vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, the childhood and the guys that I
Speaker 1: grew up with, we had a really good year level,
Speaker 1: like we just kind of all real good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the girls in the year below me
Speaker 3: that were there, like right, toxic pictures, Like there were
Speaker 3: just these couple of girls that were really well, there
Speaker 3: was one and her friends. Yeah, it wasn't the girls
Speaker 3: in my year.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like in a level and
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were some people who felt that this
Speaker 1: is not how it was their memory, but I feel
Speaker 1: like there was less intimidation across you know, like groups
Speaker 1: you know that we go one where I feel like
Speaker 1: I know and like I said, I'm sure there are
Speaker 1: a handful of people.
Speaker 2: Who who had a bad time.
Speaker 1: I had a bad time, no doubt about that. But
Speaker 1: I feel like when I speak to my wife about
Speaker 1: her growing up that even sometimes like the girls who
Speaker 1: were confident and had their group of friends were still
Speaker 1: intimidated by certain people within the year. Level. Yeah, such
Speaker 1: a which is a great mate, who's who's gorgeous and
Speaker 1: who's confident and is now successful. And she tells me
Speaker 1: that she, you know, this horrible time with this group.
Speaker 1: I's like, how could how could she have a horrible
Speaker 1: time with look at her, like, you know, she is great, funny,
Speaker 1: she's great. How could she be having And it's just
Speaker 1: like I know, and I see my nieces grow up
Speaker 1: and they seem, you know, they've had My one of
Speaker 1: my older oldest nieces had She's like beautiful and she's
Speaker 1: smart and funny, but she had like a horrible time
Speaker 1: with the bullying.
Speaker 3: And yeah, oh no, I mean like there is and
Speaker 3: it's maybe a bit of old school of me, but
Speaker 3: there's a level that's probably helpful in terms of preparing
Speaker 3: you for just work life in the regular world. You
Speaker 3: know a little bit of people playing power games and
Speaker 3: you learning that you can get through this and still
Speaker 3: turn up the next day, you know, like a little bit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's when you have to change school. Yuck.
Speaker 2: How do we get onto this? How did John Hughes
Speaker 2: take us here?
Speaker 1: Is what John does? That is what John does? I think,
Speaker 1: because you know, there's less to really delve into science,
Speaker 1: maybe the father parts.
Speaker 3: So what you're suggesting is we've probably finished talking about
Speaker 3: weird science.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things what are the sort of
Speaker 1: the things that made you laugh. Like the biggest laugh
Speaker 1: I had again was when they were in the bathroom
Speaker 1: and the girls were at the front and White said
Speaker 1: that Gary is taking a ship. That made me laugh
Speaker 1: out loud. I had a big laugh at that.
Speaker 2: What did I laugh at?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess that moment was all right.
Speaker 1: Also, when the guys came in with the motorbikes and
Speaker 1: then they got rid of them, and the guy who
Speaker 1: I forget his name, but I think he's from the original,
Speaker 1: the hills have eyes kind of creepy looking dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ball do that's odd looking?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a good line.
Speaker 1: Keep this between us. I could lose my teaching job.
Speaker 2: Yep, that I reckon. That might have been the best
Speaker 2: line of the film.
Speaker 1: It could be, Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2: That was really good. I enjoyed them.
Speaker 1: Also, one of the the guys at the motorbikes was
Speaker 1: for Mad Max two.
Speaker 2: The lord come with the Aussie accent righton.
Speaker 1: Wells, Yeah, so he he and he looks If you
Speaker 1: did a side by side of how he looks in
Speaker 1: Mad Max two, it's pretty much exactly. So there's a
Speaker 1: theory some people have that. Lisa kind of brought him
Speaker 1: because he she kind of figured that the boys had
Speaker 1: seen Mad Max two and was summoning the character.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fair, okay, cool, I kind of,
Speaker 3: I mean, like I appreciated, although I appreciated the performance
Speaker 3: of Wyatt's grandparents. Yes, that woman was in you know,
Speaker 3: she was, yeah, she was. She was a delightful old
Speaker 3: theater trained woman.
Speaker 2: I think. So I was pitched pretty high and I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: And then of course the two grandparents frozen in the pantry,
Speaker 3: you know, so kind of yeah, like that was a
Speaker 3: fun thing just there the intensity of her performance and
Speaker 3: then her with a smile frozen on her face in
Speaker 3: the pantry.
Speaker 2: Charming.
Speaker 1: It was very charming. I like check when he arrived
Speaker 1: home getting out of the car carrying a dead duck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't even in the boot. It was actually he
Speaker 1: just had it there and it was just oh yeah,
Speaker 1: was dead duck, Like he was driving with it on
Speaker 1: his lap. Yeah. A little behind the scenes that the
Speaker 1: rocket scene. They had like once to get that because
Speaker 1: of their budget, and apparently Anthony Michael Hall farted just
Speaker 1: during us during a take, which kind of broke everybody's
Speaker 1: concentration and focus and people were laughing. So they had
Speaker 1: to kind of like play that in reverse with a
Speaker 1: few post production tricks. They kind of had to do
Speaker 1: it because they couldn't They could only do it once.
Speaker 1: And he like, like, I don't know, I don't know how.
Speaker 1: It must have been an accidental fart otherwise, because you know,
Speaker 1: there are shots where you are told, okay, we need
Speaker 1: to get this. In one, you know, it's a great
Speaker 1: tropic thunder on the scene where they're blowing up all
Speaker 1: these helicopters and somebody, I forget exactly what happens, but
Speaker 1: somebody sucks up the take and they you know, that's
Speaker 1: the only one they've got. And so there are times
Speaker 1: when you are told, we need to get this, so
Speaker 1: everyone just you know, focus to squeeze one out at
Speaker 1: that that point is quite a brave, brave thing. I
Speaker 1: have a real love for Anthony Michaelhall. I think he's
Speaker 1: so good Breakfast Club in particular, but you know, uh,
Speaker 1: sixteen Candles.
Speaker 3: And oh he's great and this he's no Charla made,
Speaker 3: but he's really he is actually really like for a
Speaker 3: young man, he's got he's got range.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like comic range. Absolutely like that that scene
Speaker 1: where we played before when he's talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: his girlfriend lives in Canada, you know, yeah, morals because
Speaker 1: she lives in Canada. It's genuinely, genuinely.
Speaker 2: Well delivered, really well delivered, really.
Speaker 1: Well delivered, and and he does it constantly in vacation
Speaker 1: and there's a great delivery of lions. I've always wondered
Speaker 1: where he went and what he did and he quick
Speaker 1: I thought he must have quit, but he's still acting,
Speaker 1: and he was watching the panel with him like Elan
Speaker 1: is really lovely. Kelly the Brock seems you know, no,
Speaker 1: she knows she's Kelling the Brock, which is yes, she
Speaker 1: seems nice enough. Anthony Michael is very confident, like he's
Speaker 1: actually got like doing a lot of jokes. And there's
Speaker 1: a point where I'm going, oh, should I stop watching
Speaker 1: the next? Am I going to hate you because a
Speaker 1: little bit too cocky or something? But he's not like
Speaker 1: he was just being He's just that guy. I often
Speaker 1: have been that guy, and he's genuinely he wasn't. He
Speaker 1: made me laugh at you know a few times. But
Speaker 1: he has been in some recent stuff. He was in
Speaker 1: War Machine with Brad Pitt, which was on Netflix, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, a good kind of war satire film. He
Speaker 1: was Lived by Night with Ben Affleck. He was in
Speaker 1: Fox Catcher with Stevid Carrell and Mark Ruffalo. He was
Speaker 1: in the Dark Night. What was he on that? Well,
Speaker 1: you're going to ask me about that.
Speaker 2: He knew I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1: So he played Mike Engel Mike and I've seen that
Speaker 1: that might plenty of times and I did not remember
Speaker 1: seeing him.
Speaker 3: So so he's gone from really it seems like maybe
Speaker 3: he's had the good fortune of going from somebody who
Speaker 3: has a really distinctive look to as an older man
Speaker 3: looking a bit more looks very Geneus background. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: because if he kept the floppy blonde hair from Weird Science,
Speaker 3: you'd be like picking him out at every moment. But yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe he's maybe he's had that like that thing where
Speaker 3: his face.
Speaker 1: Broad it it's a pretty soul of God.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because yeah, Okay, that's good, because that's what you
Speaker 3: need if you're going to if you're going to be
Speaker 3: in Weird Science as a kid, you can't be forty
Speaker 3: still looking like that kid, or you're not going to
Speaker 3: get any more work.
Speaker 1: No, but I'm glad he's still working. He's also hand jim.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: That one comes back to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, where you're like, yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I can see that it looks like him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm really glad he's still working because
Speaker 1: I think he's so good. He's one of the best
Speaker 1: I think child actors. I think you know, yeah, we're saying,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I particularly fond of Rusty.
Speaker 3: It is funny, though, how do we do that thing
Speaker 3: of like, I'm so glad they're still working when actually
Speaker 3: there's something to be saluted about actors who do it
Speaker 3: for a while and then go, oh, this isn't making
Speaker 3: me happy.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But because we're.
Speaker 3: Performers desperately holding onto the spotlight, we're like, imagine giving
Speaker 3: up that would be such an embarrassing felure.
Speaker 1: Well, it would be tough to be you know, imagine
Speaker 1: anything michaelhol going and working at Target and the amount
Speaker 1: of people who come through and they, ah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: That's that's why we have to stay in the industry people,
Speaker 3: because we can't work at Bunnings.
Speaker 1: Now. There's it's partly true now you get, once you
Speaker 1: get to a certain level of you know, profile, you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is I remember thinking this, this is it.
Speaker 3: Now I can't I'm painting into a corner now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like they do What would I do?
Speaker 1: It's crazy? Okay, Well, I any final words on on
Speaker 1: on Weird Science.
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, I would do encouraged listeners to
Speaker 3: have a think at home and a conversation about whether,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: Whether team film almost that portray women in these ways
Speaker 3: however lighthearted? Is it still safe for our children to
Speaker 3: watch them?
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good ques. I think it's
Speaker 1: if you're going to watch it, have the conversation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, Like, yeah, that's because it is fun. This
Speaker 1: film I don't think need I'm not sure where you
Speaker 1: stand on cancel culture. You know, I don't think this
Speaker 1: film needs to be.
Speaker 2: We don't need to cancel it. Just see it as
Speaker 2: an artifact of a time.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's I think that's always the best way to
Speaker 1: And the reason we evolve is we can see the
Speaker 1: things that could be done better, and then when we're
Speaker 1: making stuff, we do things better. I hope. So that's hope,
Speaker 1: Bloody hell, all right, thank you so much for watching.
Speaker 1: I'm going to glad you watch this one because it
Speaker 1: was ninety minutes.
Speaker 2: And nice and shot nice short enough for wait got through.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you had a lot because you you
Speaker 1: had nominated the basic instinct. Yeah, I know. He weighed more,
Speaker 1: stayed around for a bit longer.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was.
Speaker 3: He was like, great, I've seen it, can't wait to
Speaker 3: see it again. I was like, actually, no, I've changed
Speaker 3: it to weird Science.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And of course you can sectly
Speaker 1: on the on the project. I've got to mention that
Speaker 1: in the I've.
Speaker 2: Been stealing his shifts when you're off galivant.
Speaker 1: To my chair, very warm. I appreciate it. You're a legend.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thanks Pete.
Speaker 1: That was Danny Elfman there and Claire Hooper at this
Speaker 1: point act Danny Elfman apparently hated that it was becoming
Speaker 1: embarrassed about the work that he did on that song
Speaker 1: and said it was very hard to come home with it.
Speaker 1: Of course, he is one of the great composers of
Speaker 1: recent Hollywood history. Thank you so much. It was so
Speaker 1: much fun with Claire Hooper. She is awesome to choose
Speaker 1: Weird science and like I said, I I really appreciated it.
Speaker 1: A ninety minute film. It took me back. But yes,
Speaker 1: has it aged as well as other films? Perhaps not,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know you can check it out and
Speaker 1: make your own decisions and verdicts on that. Let us
Speaker 1: know yasny Podcasts at gmail dot com. I want to
Speaker 1: thank everyone for who writes in. There's been a few
Speaker 1: people inquiring us to the Judah Flucy episode, which I
Speaker 1: referred to a couple of times early on. Now I've
Speaker 1: been caught a little bit because Jude has committed to
Speaker 1: coming on, but we have not actually recorded her episode yet.
Speaker 1: I cheated when Dave O'Neil asked what did Jude make
Speaker 1: of sounding music? And I said, well, you have to
Speaker 1: listen to the episode we hadn't recorded at that stage.
Speaker 1: That's why I was being a little bit cagy with Dave.
Speaker 1: We are shooting How to Stay Married at the moment
Speaker 1: with Jude, so I've been harassing her and she's very busy, Jude.
Speaker 1: So we will get Jude on to talk about the
Speaker 1: sound of music at some point. Also, Denise Scott will
Speaker 1: come on for a movie as well. So thank you
Speaker 1: very much. A quick email Yasney Podcast at gmail. We
Speaker 1: have a lovely community forming. Rowan Harris got in touch
Speaker 1: and he just wants to say. We were at the
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Speaker 1: course I loved it fantastic, And he said it would
Speaker 1: be remissing me not to mention the wonderful thing you
Speaker 1: did last year to extend your season by an extra
Speaker 1: week for that one person going through a tough time.
Speaker 1: It was analy Warren, and we said a lovely update
Speaker 1: on her health recently. That must have been such a
Speaker 1: wonderfully positive personal moment for her and confirmed to me, okay,
Speaker 1: says some nice things about me, and that's okay. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much, and keep up the wonderful show with your
Speaker 1: fantastic guess. I'm hopeful you can get Carrie on one day.
Speaker 1: We'd love to hear that. Thanks Rowan. We will up
Speaker 1: chat to carry about it. We've got we'll make some
Speaker 1: time and I love her to watch a scary movie.
Speaker 1: She doesn't like scary movies. I'm hoping she'll do one
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Speaker 1: A Great Maid of Mine. A man who has created
Speaker 1: so much greatest Trained TV from the Moodies to No
Speaker 1: Activity to review with Miles Barlow. He's worked on It's
Speaker 1: a Date with Me and he also appears in How
Speaker 1: to Stay Married. He plays Brad Butler, my character Greg
Speaker 1: Butler's brother. He is Phil Lloyd. He is an actor,
Speaker 1: a creator, a writer, a producer, a comedian, and he's
Speaker 1: a great guy. And he will be checking out a
Speaker 1: more recent classic this one. He'll be checking out Quentin
Speaker 1: Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It's a film
Speaker 1: that I love. I've seen it quite a few times
Speaker 1: over the last few years, and it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what film makes for it. Some people love it,
Speaker 1: others not so much. So we'll find out next week.
Speaker 1: And you ain't see nothing yet until then, like for
Speaker 1: an hour and so we leave Old Pete save fan
Speaker 1: sut and to our friends of the radio audience, we've
Speaker 1: been a pleasant good night