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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Kate Torber and I'm Sophie Torbah and coming up on

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Speaker 1: today's show, Kayla. It's seen as takes full control of

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Speaker 1: her fitness empire. A Reddit user claims a well known

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Speaker 1: influencer's boyfriend got her pregnant and our influences being censored

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Speaker 1: when talking about Dubai. But first, Varuka Salt is having twins. Kate.

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Speaker 1: It comes just a week after she announced her shot pregnancy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ruka dropped the news on Tuesday, just after our episode

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Speaker 1: went live or we spoke about her pregnancy. When I

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Speaker 1: saw the video, I was like, you've got to be kidding.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I mean, you can't make this

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Speaker 1: shit up. It's great for content now. Varuka shared the

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Speaker 1: news on TikTok. Let's take a listen to what she

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Speaker 1: said as twin babies inside me. Oh my god, there's big, fat,

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Speaker 1: fucking twin babies inside me, and mommy has to have

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Speaker 1: a tie for fucking men that are over six six,

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Speaker 1: like they're gonna be amongs, be fucking humongers. And I'm

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Speaker 1: so pertin tiny, tardy and skinny, Like what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Everyone has been wondering who the father

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Speaker 1: is and she's given a big clue. There a guy

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Speaker 1: that's over six foot six, So I think everyone's going

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Speaker 1: to be looking out in the background of her videos

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Speaker 1: for a very tall guy. Well, she's touched on the

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Speaker 1: fact that she's got a type. She likes tall guys.

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Speaker 1: So I feel for her as she gets onto the

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Speaker 1: latest stages of her pregnancy because it's probably not going

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Speaker 1: to be pleasant. Yeah. No, I was just thinking about Amy.

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Speaker 1: She would have been good to have on this episode

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Speaker 1: because she could have given us an insight into what

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Speaker 1: it's like actually carrying the baby of a very tall man.

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Speaker 1: Her husband is six 't five, so a bit shorter

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Speaker 1: than the father of Rika's babies. I mean she only

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Speaker 1: had to carry one though, and that looked incredibly uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: I just I have so much respect for mums of multiples.

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Speaker 1: It is a massive job, Like I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they do it. I know growing up, people would always

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Speaker 1: be like, Wow, your mum done an amazing job, and

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Speaker 1: I'd be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And it's

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Speaker 1: not until I had a child that I was like,

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Speaker 1: she really has, Like that would have been so difficult. Now.

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Speaker 1: In a subsequent video, Aruka shared her reaction during the ultrasound,

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Speaker 1: and she said she doesn't understand how this happened to her.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is off the back of her explaining

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Speaker 1: in her initial pregnancy announcement video that she was literally

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Speaker 1: on the pill and drinking at the time, So it's

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Speaker 1: all been a bit of a whirlwind for her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she kept asking the radiographer like, are you sure? Could

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Speaker 1: that just be a cyst? Like you could tell she

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Speaker 1: was just absolutely taken aback by this news. It would

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Speaker 1: also be difficult news to receive on your own because

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Speaker 1: it seems like the father wasn't there during the scan.

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Speaker 1: You almost just couldn't believe it. You'd feel like you're

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Speaker 1: in a dream. I just couldn't wipe the smile of

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Speaker 1: my face watching her videos because I mean, she is

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Speaker 1: incredibly funny, but also just so excited for her to

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Speaker 1: become a mum again because we touched upon her in

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's episode, but she very tragically lost her son Cash,

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Speaker 1: six weeks old, to SIDS, and while she said that

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Speaker 1: this pregnancy has come as a surprise to her. It

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Speaker 1: was something that she was really chasing. Last year she

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Speaker 1: her at that stage. So it is lovely and exciting

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Speaker 1: to see her going through this. It is really beautiful

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Speaker 1: and I am really excited to follow along on her

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Speaker 1: She said at the moment that she barely feels pregnant.

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Speaker 1: She said she's a bit bloated and has sore nipples,

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Speaker 1: even harder for her to get her head around the

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Speaker 1: fact that she's having twins. She said that she thought

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Speaker 1: with a twin pregnancy, you'd feel it on a whole

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Speaker 1: new level. Well, that is what you hear. You're told

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Speaker 1: that you're going to feel really bad. I mean, hopefully

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Speaker 1: she continues to stay well during her pregnancy. The comment

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Speaker 1: it's something new every day. I can't keep up. Congrats though,

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Speaker 1: Queen so exciting. It's pretty funny though, because you would

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Speaker 1: people know that her name actually isn't Veruka Salts. The

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Speaker 2: I have zero idea as to when Josh and I

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Speaker 1: A fly home. Saffron Barker has revealed she doesn't know

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Speaker 1: when she'll return home to Dubai. The UK influencer is

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Speaker 1: currently holidaying in Australia, but was supposed to fly back

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Speaker 1: to the embattled city this week. Like many others, Saffron's

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Speaker 1: travel plans have been thrown into chaos because of the

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Speaker 1: can you get listeners up to speed with why she

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Speaker 1: moved to Dubai. Yeah, Saffron really shocked her followers last

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Speaker 1: And this move really came out of nowhere. Because Saffron

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Speaker 1: and it turns out that it was actually Josh who

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Speaker 1: and originally Saffron said that she would be splitting her

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Speaker 1: seemed off in a lot of her videos. Yeah, very down.

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Speaker 1: As a big fan of Saffron, I could definitely see

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Speaker 1: what it is about Dubai that attracts so many influencers

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Speaker 1: like Saffron to actually move there, and it turns out

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Speaker 1: being a global travel hub. So since the conflict in Dubai,

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Speaker 1: it's become widely reported that the UAE government has strategic

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Speaker 1: programs in place to attract influencers to Dubai. So the

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Speaker 1: government even has a special what they call Golden Visa

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Speaker 1: she embarked on the trip in the middle of February

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Speaker 1: to surprise her school friends who live on the Gold Coast. Now,

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Speaker 1: she posted a rather steamy shower selfie with her boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Now the backlash was swift and it forced Saffron to

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Speaker 1: We had a bit of a chuckle about this one,

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Speaker 1: so she's continued to keep her two million TikTok followers

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Speaker 1: That blew my mind. It was like when UK YouTuber

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Speaker 1: The number one question on Saffron's followers lips is when

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Speaker 1: will she be returning to Dubai. So one follower wrote

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Speaker 1: currently in Australia. I am still in Australia. This blog

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Speaker 1: really sad. It is very sad. Now. This week, Safron

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Speaker 1: boyfriend Josh had spent the night in emergency with a

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Speaker 2: I originally we were actually supposed to fly home today.

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Speaker 2: That's or OK, we have extended it a week. However,

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Speaker 2: Josh can't sit down be longer than like a few

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Speaker 1: Now, someone who follows Josh, this is genuine. He has

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Speaker 1: Kayla Its seen Us is finally in complete control of

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Speaker 1: You can tell how much this means to Kayla because

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Speaker 1: to when she speaks about betrayal. Is that betrayal in

430
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Speaker 1: a business sense or a romantic scent? Well, my initial

431
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: reaction was, Oh, is this a very delayed pot shot

432
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: at Toby Pierce? And then when she announced that she

433
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: was the sole owner of Sweat, I was like, Ooh,

434
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: are we about to find out more? Well, I don't

435
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: think so, because they still have a child together. Maybe

436
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 1: this is some sort of friendship bust up. That's when

437
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: I feel like they're pretty prevalent in your thirties, when

438
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 1: people go their separate ways and they're in different life stages.

439
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think she's taking a potshot at Toby

440
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: at all. I mean, she's moved her life to the

441
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: Gold Coast so that they can raise their daughter together there.

442
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly they were amicable enough to run a

443
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Speaker 1: business together. But I just felt the timing of it

444
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: was interesting, how you know, not long after it was

445
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: announced that they finally cut tires permanently from the business.

446
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Speaker 1: Also the fact that Jay was in the clip, like

447
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: it was sort of like he was backing her. I mean,

448
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: she's definitely keeping people guessing with that one. It was

449
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: a pretty powerful statement. Yeah. Well, at the time, Jules

450
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: Nil commented, she wrote, you said it, girl, to which

451
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: Kayla responded, thinking of you now. A couple of weeks later,

452
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: Kayla revealed again that she had pushed herself outside of

453
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Speaker 1: her comfort zone and was publicly speaking at America's biggest

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Speaker 1: retail event. So in the caption, she revealed that she's

455
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Speaker 1: been taking advice from Gary Vee to share more business

456
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: minded contact. Again, Amy would have loved that we were

457
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: talking about Gary Vee. There was a time in twenty

458
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: twenty where she was obsessed with Gary Vee. At our house,

459
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: we had a spare bedroom that she set up and

460
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: she called it the flip room. Where she would buy

461
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: things off eBay and try and flipped them for more.

462
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I felt like I'd been transported

463
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty with the mention of Gary Vee.

464
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Speaker 1: I think it was our second year into the podcast,

465
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: and we had Sam maignan on doing a bit of

466
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Speaker 1: an interview with him, and he is obviously a respected businessman,

467
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: he's a bit of a PR mogul. And Amy mentioned

468
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: something about Gary V and He's like, I fucking hate

469
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Speaker 1: that guy. And you could see she was like, oh no,

470
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Speaker 1: I really respect Sam and he thinks Gary V's a

471
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: bit of an idiot. Yeah. I do remember that moment,

472
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: being like Amy, shut up. Yeah. Now, this big news

473
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: from kaylor does follow reports that she and her husband

474
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: Jay have reportedly purchased a home for thirteen million dollars

475
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: in Mermaid Waters on the Gold Coast. Now this house

476
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: sounds absolutely epic. It's five bedrooms with a tennis court,

477
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: infinity pool, pontoon, and also a boat shed. I mean,

478
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: do we expect anything less? Really? I Mean when I

479
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: saw thirteen million, I was like, only thirteen million, Like,

480
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: she's worth so much money. Well, it's almost double the

481
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: price of the house that she had in Adelaide. So

482
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: she moved from Adelaide to Queensland in twenty twenty four

483
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Speaker 1: after selling a beautiful bungalow that she owed in Adelaide's

484
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: inner southern suburbs, which was seven point three million dollars.

485
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: So this one is a bit of a step up.

486
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: It's a step up, but it's also in a different

487
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: stay and it's two years later. That's inflation for you,

488
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: isn't it. An anonymous Reddit user has claimed the boyfriend

489
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: of a well known influencer got her pregnant. Now. The woman,

490
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: who is several months along in her pregnancy, says the

491
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: influencer in question has no idea. In the lengthy post,

492
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: the woman asked for advice, explaining she got pregnant right

493
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Speaker 1: before her baby daddy met the influencer. She wrote, I'm

494
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: posting here because I honestly don't know where else to

495
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: ask for advice, and I feel safe for doing it anonymously.

496
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Speaker 1: She continued, writing, there's a fairly well known creator online.

497
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: They're based in Australia, and I'm trying not to give

498
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: too many details for obvious reasons. This whole situation has

499
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: been making me feel really anxious and sick with stress,

500
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: especially being this far into the pregnancy now. She said

501
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: that she was casually seeing the man before she felt pregnant.

502
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: But what I want to know is does this man

503
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: know that she's pregnant. Yes, he does know that she's pregnant.

504
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: So the reddit user said that their boyfriend knows about

505
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: this pregnancy, but has expressed reservations about telling the girlfriend.

506
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: So she wrote, he knows I'm pregnant. It was before

507
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: they got together. I found out early, let him know,

508
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: and he said he'd help financially and in person. She

509
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: also continued saying that the influencer's boyfriend has asked for

510
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: photos of scans, and they've had a conversation about custody

511
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: and where the child will eventually live, with them, both

512
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: agreeing that the baby will be with the mother most

513
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: of the time. So yes, he is definitely aware of

514
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: this pregnancy. I mean, she cleared up the fact that

515
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: there was no cheating involved and that she was with

516
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: the influencer's boyfriend before he got with the new girlfriend.

517
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: It sounds kind of like a bit of damage control

518
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: on this woman's behalf. My guess is that potentially someone

519
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: has found out and is going to go public with it,

520
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: whether that's on TikTok, and it's going to spread like wildfire,

521
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: and she wants to put it out there before any

522
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: of that happens. Hey, this is actually the story we

523
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: were together prior to him getting with this influencer. Well,

524
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: that actually does make a lot of sense now that

525
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: you say that, Kay, because in the post, she explained

526
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: that she is already a mum and she's worried about

527
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: protecting her family and her family's privacy, saying that her

528
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: biggest fear is that if the influencer girlfriend finds out,

529
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: she might talk about it publicly on TikTok, which would

530
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: expose her. So it's weird to say expose her, because

531
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: if you haven't done any wrongdoing, how are you being exposed?

532
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand that she probably doesn't want her

533
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: face out there, she said, I absolutely cannot have my

534
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: identity out there, so it's very interesting. She finished the

535
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: post by asking if anyone has dealt with something similar

536
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: or has advice on how to protect yourself in a

537
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: situation like this. Now, as you can imagine, the overwhelming

538
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: response in the comment section was that she should tell

539
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: the influencer in question. One user wrote, Honestly, this is

540
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: something he should be handling, not you. If he hasn't

541
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: told his partner, that's on him. Your focus should be

542
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: on your health and your baby. Another user said it

543
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: might also be worth getting some legal advice about your

544
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: privacy rights in case anything is ever shared online. My

545
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: personal advice to this woman would be, do not reach

546
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: out to the influencer personally. You need to put pressure

547
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: on the baby daddy to tell his partner, because if

548
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: you go behind their back and create this drama, the

549
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: influencer is going to be on the back foot. And

550
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: when someone comes to you with information that you don't

551
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: want to hear, often you turn the messenger into the villain.

552
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: So the boyfriend's going to be like, oh no, no,

553
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: this isn't true, blah blah blah, and then that's when

554
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: you're going to be called out online over this, and

555
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: that's when you're going to your identity is going to

556
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: be dragged into this. I want to point out that

557
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: this is an anonymous post, so there's actually no proof

558
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: yet being provided that this is a legitimate situation. I mean,

559
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: when I first saw this story pop up on influencer Updates,

560
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: a you. I was skeptical, thinking, well, maybe someone is

561
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: just making this up for you know, engagement or cloud

562
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. But then when I read the full post,

563
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: I was like, there's almost too much detail for this

564
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: not to be true. Like it's a really interesting move

565
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: to go public with information in this way. I suppose

566
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: that she did keep the details very loose. I mean,

567
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: I can't even think which influencer it might be. Well,

568
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: I think back in the day, maybe in like twenty seventeen,

569
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, this could have been a bit defamatory because

570
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: there weren't that many influencers out there, but because the

571
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: influencer space, even in Australia is completely saturated, Like this

572
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: could be someone that is on our radar or someone

573
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: that we have no clue of that's a TikTok creator

574
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: in this specific Niche like the term influencer is so

575
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: loosely used. That's why I mean, I initially when you

576
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: brought this story forward, was a bit like, well, I

577
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't want to get in trouble for defamation,

578
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: but let's be honest, this applies to so many different

579
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: people that it is very unclear who it is. Yeah,

580
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to speculate in this segment

581
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: who it could be, because, as you said, it is

582
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: highly defamatory. But it will be interesting in a couple

583
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: of months if we do see a couple breakup or

584
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: the influencer in question goes rogue on her Instagram or

585
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: TikTok and blast the boyfriend. I mean, that's when we'll

586
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: know whether this Reddit post is real or not. Yeah. Well, really,

587
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: the only identifiable aspect we have at the moment is

588
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: the timeline of this pregnancy. So the woman said she's

589
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: a couple of months pregnant. So it's an influencer who

590
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: has gotten together with a boyfriend fairly recently. But again,

591
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: so many of them happen. Yeah, this story was actually

592
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: picked up by the Daily Mail and also as I

593
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: touched on influencer updates are you. I wonder whether the

594
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: Reddit user thought that her post would get this level

595
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: of attention or whether it would go unnoticed. I mean,

596
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: this post is definitely putting pressure on the influencer's boyfriend

597
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: to fessa. I mean, I don't think that's why she

598
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: shared it. If this is a legitimate story, I think

599
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: that this result is the opposite of what she wanted.

600
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: I think she really just wanted some people's advice, because

601
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: it would be a rather awkward story to share with people,

602
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, particularly if this is a well known influencer,

603
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: because you can't trust anyone out there. Someone tells someone

604
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: and then it ends up on TikTok. Like these days,

605
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: it is so easy to make a story go viral

606
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: like this on TikTok. I wonder if there's a couple

607
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: of influencers who have recently got in new relationships who

608
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: are sort of questioning things going through their partner's phones,

609
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: being a bit like, oh is it you? Well, that

610
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,280
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Speaker 1: because I mean, personally, if I went to stat their house,

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Speaker 1: this is really bad. Maybe me being a journal that's

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Speaker 1: a troll through everything, you know, Like I mean, sure

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Speaker 1: know when you go to an airbnbing You're like, what's

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Speaker 1: this where all their personal things are? But are they

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Speaker 1: going to be like journos who just book this or

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Speaker 1: you know, journals from the Daily Mail who book this

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Speaker 1: place just to see if they can get any you know, Gossy,

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Speaker 1: we clearly are identical sisters, because that's exactly what we

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Speaker 1: discussed on the podcast. I said I'd be going through

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Speaker 1: the bathroom every inch of it, looking at the cupboards,

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Speaker 1: but clearly they'd have to lock a lot of things away. Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: on that note, no one will ever ask us to

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Speaker 1: how sit for them. But this episode was recorded on

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Speaker 1: the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.

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Speaker 1: We pay respect to elders past and present,