WEBVTT - 👩‍⚖️ ❌  The Government Is Cracking Down ⬇️ On Dating Apps ❌ 👩‍⚖️

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Monday, Hello weeen is coming up soon. Today we

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<v Speaker 2>chat about Harry styles and sleepings.

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<v Speaker 3>Sleep slots that if you have trouble sleeping, it might

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<v Speaker 3>you just might not have reached your slot. Yeah, wait

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<v Speaker 3>your turn, mummy? Can I listen to Flex and Rooms

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<v Speaker 3>Flex and Frooms, I Kit.

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<v Speaker 2>We have amazing loyal listeners. If you're listening and you

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<v Speaker 2>listen every day, thank you so much. And often we

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<v Speaker 2>get unsolicited dms about dreams that people have about us.

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<v Speaker 2>Oftentimes they are very fun from our fellow girls. Here

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<v Speaker 2>is one from Laura. I had a dream about Flex

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<v Speaker 2>and Rooms last night. I met them in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>at a bar with live music. I'm going to guess

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<v Speaker 2>it was a sneaky sound system.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me adding in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It was outdoors and we were in the roped off

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<v Speaker 2>VIP section. Nice naturally, Flex and I sauntered confidently to

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<v Speaker 2>the bar. It's giving powerful woman and how to look

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<v Speaker 2>at the cocktail menu. We decided on these white chocolate

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<v Speaker 2>flavor espresso martinis with flaked chocolate crumb on top. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my word, why don't they exist flakes a white chocolate

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<v Speaker 2>espresso martini.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sixteen weeks pregnant and now I've had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of espresso martini dreams because I can't drink them

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Teah, can you not even have one?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm sure you could have a couple, but no,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd hate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah redacted anyway, Flex was like, well, order too, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we turned to frooms sitting at a table when

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<v Speaker 2>she said get six. Then the dream was ruined because

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go in an alleyway to have a

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<v Speaker 2>scrag fight with some other girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds a bit real.

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<v Speaker 2>Pass coded before I woke up. Didn't even get to

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<v Speaker 2>taste my drink. I just wanted to let you know

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<v Speaker 2>about your feature in my dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you chicks. Thanks for the potty.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm obsessed with that Laura premonition.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, good luck with the baby is it? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to figure out what the sex is? Do you care?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing a gender a real party? I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been to one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Not you setting Laura up. Don't listen to her bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting news. Prada, the designer brand is going to the moon.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the greatest brand? Collaboration ever? Was this the

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<v Speaker 3>most unseerious bit of news we've ever spoken about? Not

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<v Speaker 3>joking when I say so. Prada and NASA are collabing.

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<v Speaker 3>They're designing the space suits for NASA's upcoming mission to

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<v Speaker 3>the Moon. According to Bloomberg, astronauts on an upcoming NASA

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<v Speaker 3>space mission, we'll head to the Moon in style and

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<v Speaker 3>Prita spacesuits. Why are they going? I wanted to figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out. Is it just for pr No, It's for

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<v Speaker 3>Artemis III, which is the first manned lunar landing since

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<v Speaker 3>Apollo seventeen in nineteen seventy two. And I was like, Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>where's the rest of the information because you would think, like,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't we know about this moon landing trip? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to hear about it through Prada. Maybe this

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<v Speaker 3>is why they're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>To get like so that people actually care, Yeah, for actual,

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<v Speaker 2>actual pr because if they were just wearing their regular outfits,

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't be talking about it at all. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they've got to change it up because there's all that

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<v Speaker 2>alien talk about, you know, like everyone's like, now we

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<v Speaker 2>believe aliens fully exist, so now we need to bring

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<v Speaker 2>it back to the humans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, humanizer, so put people in cute outfits, so we care.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I started doing some more research about Artemis

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<v Speaker 3>three and if there was anything particularly interesting or groundbreaking

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<v Speaker 3>for the average person, not just you know, an astro enthusiast.

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<v Speaker 3>And all that I got is that'll be the first

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<v Speaker 3>mission to land a woman and a person of color

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<v Speaker 3>on the moon. And I said, we should have led

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<v Speaker 3>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, guys, I would have cared about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But back to the information we have here, and you

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I am excited to see the suits.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, like, you know, the nineteen nineties, early two thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>prior of.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks that were like the very hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I hope it's cute, but I think for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part, it's just going to be a regular.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have to abide by so many rules to

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<v Speaker 3>be fit for purpose that I doubt they could add

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<v Speaker 3>any flavor. But a cute little triangle prior to logo.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be not that'd be wonders FLEXI have you seen

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<v Speaker 2>the Facebook groups? Are we dating the same guy? No?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't been in one, but I know of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been in it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just for funzies, which allegedly is not allowed in

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<v Speaker 2>these groups. They say, if you're just here to be nosy,

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<v Speaker 2>get out. I'm still part of a group now. I've

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<v Speaker 2>always wondered when you're posting, when these women are posting

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<v Speaker 2>about guys, like what are the legal ramifications? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this actually allowed?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you doing something illegal? Are you well?

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<v Speaker 2>I read an article on The Guardian about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it tells a story of how a woman is on

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<v Speaker 2>a date with a guy then she sees a woman

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<v Speaker 2>go behind him and tap him on the shoulder, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it turns out that she says to the girl, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he is already in a relationship, and I found

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<v Speaker 2>out he was in a relationship when I was dating him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's done the doxing, the IRL doxing, right, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just like an in real life version of the

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<v Speaker 2>online doxing that we see every day on these are

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<v Speaker 2>we Dating the Same Guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Page?

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<v Speaker 2>This woman said that she felt the need. She thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was her civic duty to let this other woman

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<v Speaker 2>know that he has history of cheating. Right. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a fair enough thing to do or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think everyone should just stay out of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still confused because this sounds like an extreme circumstance, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are the odds that you're going to be on

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<v Speaker 3>a date with someone and their literal X is right

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<v Speaker 3>behind them to tell you that they cheated on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she also said that he had taken this woman

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<v Speaker 2>to a date spot where they had their first date.

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<v Speaker 3>So this kind of just feels like dating to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing with these groups is often some of

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<v Speaker 2>the women are like, I just match with this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the tea on him?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So they just want tea, which I get. I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you first start dating someone, you want to know

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<v Speaker 2>the inside scoop. You have no mutuals, but allegedly because

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<v Speaker 2>I see the other side, if someone's abusive or like

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely dangerous, you need to know. Carla Wilshire, the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>of Social Policy Group and the director of Center for

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<v Speaker 2>Digital Well Being, says that women are driven to use

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<v Speaker 2>the sites to protect themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>She said women feel the need to do this because

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<v Speaker 2>the platforms have effectively failed them on safety.

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<v Speaker 1>True, true, true.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants that semi public shaming has inherent problems, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can agree with. She also says you

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<v Speaker 2>can never really determine the intent of the user. That

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<v Speaker 2>could be wanting to protect other women from someone who

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<v Speaker 2>has perpetuated significant abuse, but then also a private relationship

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<v Speaker 2>that's broken down because the other party hasn't behaved in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that met expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's different.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's are there any legal ramifications? What's the article saying?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it just like it can potentially these are the

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<v Speaker 3>considerations to make or is it a cautionary tale?

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<v Speaker 1>There is a takeaway, believed or not.

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<v Speaker 2>The federal government has told dating apps to develop a

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<v Speaker 2>code of practice to address sexual assault and abuse on

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<v Speaker 2>their platforms. The Communications Minister Michelle Rowland wrote to the

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<v Speaker 2>ten most popular dating sites in September, warning that if

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't improve their safety outcomes by the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, the government would develop legislation to force and

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<v Speaker 2>detach action because we knew how sometimes someone on a

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<v Speaker 2>date with someone from a redacted dating app and then

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<v Speaker 2>something really awful happened and they delete their.

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<v Speaker 1>Account the evidence is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully that's going to change, because I agree. I

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<v Speaker 2>think if there was better systems in place or bitter

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<v Speaker 2>ways to report people, then it would this would be

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<v Speaker 2>less necessary. You're listening to Flex and Rooms on kit.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a very special secret on behalf of Harry

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<v Speaker 3>Styles to you. What is it in keeping secret from us?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it his dating history? No, I mean pr relationships,

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<v Speaker 3>they're real, They're not real, not our business. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>the way he really feels about one direction?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta keep that one under wraps.

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<v Speaker 3>But they could never come clean. He could never, ever

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<v Speaker 3>ever say I hated every single moment of that. I

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<v Speaker 3>was always the star xyz.

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<v Speaker 2>It must be a real good feeling being in a

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<v Speaker 2>group of five and knowing the other star.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Apparently the secret is, and it comes to us

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<v Speaker 3>from Gray's mitchlik on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>Harry Styles is actually bald.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's all the proof.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of his fans have taken pictures during his performances

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<v Speaker 4>of his hair piece for lying on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, that's so convincing.

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<v Speaker 4>So an anonymous tip was sent to this account and

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<v Speaker 4>it says an a less musician slash occasional actor has

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<v Speaker 4>a dirty little secret he hasn't shared with fans. Literally,

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<v Speaker 4>he has almost gone completely bald. His hair piece is

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<v Speaker 4>so lifelike that only a good eye could pick it

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<v Speaker 4>out and that's not a bad day.

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<v Speaker 3>However, he doesn't take it off and clean and enough.

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<v Speaker 1>What it's so specific, do you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>I can imagine this would be a secret that he keeps.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing about any kind of celebrity, especially a pop star,

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<v Speaker 3>especially someone who has been in a boy band. You

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<v Speaker 3>are clinging so hard to the fantasy of youth, like

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<v Speaker 3>your life and career depends on it, because it does

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<v Speaker 3>the gnome absolutely. I mean, the fantasy people are attracted

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<v Speaker 3>to is this boyish boy being hot in public. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't want a manly man archetype. They want Harry Styles

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three to be the phys manifestation of

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<v Speaker 3>what they wish he was when they were younger, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because it was weird back then to be

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<v Speaker 3>crushing on this guy who's like barely an adult. But

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<v Speaker 3>now he's a full adult. We don't want the wrinkles

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<v Speaker 3>and the balding. We just want the consent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think he should be allowed to be bald.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, No, no, get in line. Think about all the

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<v Speaker 3>women's celebrities who are not allowed to just like have

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<v Speaker 3>children and like maintain their physical body or appearance afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>All the people who have alopecia and can't just like

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<v Speaker 3>be who they need to be. The line disease folks,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone has to make so many adjustments for the things

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<v Speaker 3>that they're going through. Get in linking everybody's doing him

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of suffering makes everyone a bit more grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever thought that you were a bad sleeper

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<v Speaker 3>because of genetics or your lifestyle, have you ever considered

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<v Speaker 3>that someone else has maybe taken up your sleep slot? Interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I came across this TikTok and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>can you date with TikTok? Is that you can't s

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<v Speaker 3>people people's use names like you just see what they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna name themselves?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so much?

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<v Speaker 3>How do I go back and find she want?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 3>I take a screenshot.

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<v Speaker 1>They do that with Instagram viewers as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Strange, very frustrating. But this person said, what if there's

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<v Speaker 3>a maximum amount? This person said, what if there is

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<v Speaker 3>a maximum amount of people on Earth that can sleep

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time? And when we can't get to

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<v Speaker 3>sleep with because we're on a waiting list, so we

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait until a space is free to get

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<v Speaker 3>to sleep, because that makes the most sense, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it so disconcerting when you're like, I'm doing everything

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<v Speaker 3>the same, Like I am not like scrolling more, I

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<v Speaker 3>like woke up early. I'm exhausted, So what is the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you start doing, oh, I'm counting sheep and meditating.

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<v Speaker 3>I might something must be wrong with me. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>not your time yet. I love that Barry and Calgarry

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<v Speaker 3>has got your slot, baby, and if you as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as he wakes up, you go the next in. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we get so tired in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, because we're kind of like, maybe that was

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<v Speaker 3>our slot and we've given up that slot, so we

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<v Speaker 3>don't go to the back of the waiting list.

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<v Speaker 2>That would really make sense, especially because there must be

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<v Speaker 2>some ancient wisdom that we're not plugged into nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of reminds you of pilates classes. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what it is. We're trying to book a pilarates class,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you want to go somewhere reputable and cute,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to book like four weeks in advance. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what I'm doing tomorrow truly, to now be

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<v Speaker 3>booking four weeks in advance and be charged a penalty

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<v Speaker 3>if I cancel a class because I can't make the slot,

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<v Speaker 3>or putting myself on a random waiting list and if

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<v Speaker 3>I can't go to that class, I gotta pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the waiting list is like they tell

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<v Speaker 2>you half an hour before babes.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, apparently plenty of people, because the system works for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, and it doesn't work for twice

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<v Speaker 3>as anymore. Anyway, consider that the next time you can't sleep,

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<v Speaker 3>don't be hard on yourself. It's just not your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've been listening to the Flex and Frooms Daily podcast.

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