WEBVTT - The Batman 🦇

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>It's odd, simone, if you thought I was already busy

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<v Speaker 2>enough being a gorgeous, talented, and incredibly dressed drag queen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm adding something else to my resume. Investigative reporter sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting down with regular looking people who are concealing

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<v Speaker 2>something from me. It may be a weird job, a

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<v Speaker 2>scandalous side hustle or hobby, or even a naughty little secret.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know who I'm meeting with or what they're hiding. I

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<v Speaker 2>ask three heart hitting questions and try and figure it

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<v Speaker 2>out from there. Who knows what's in store this time?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get our guest in roll the tap.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi. I'm Bill. I'm fifty five years old. I come

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<v Speaker 3>from Melbourne. I'm a family man and have five children.

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<v Speaker 3>I am very interested in the martial arts, which I

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<v Speaker 3>trained since I was very young. I work in local government,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's really what I do outside of work that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here to talk to art about.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Bill, how are you going?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm on in this place all right. Well, you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in front of me. The best way we'll describe

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<v Speaker 2>you is father Christmas goes.

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<v Speaker 1>On a holiday. Pretty much. I think that's what's in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a beautiful, big bushy beard, a nice silver beard,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're also in nice casual clothes. I can imagine

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<v Speaker 2>you by the beach having a nice cold beer while

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<v Speaker 2>the reindeer is going, I don't frolic in the water. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you work in local government things? Yes, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to go into that. Sounds a bit boring

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<v Speaker 2>to me, but very much. Yeah, okay, five children, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>What type of car do you have to drive and

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<v Speaker 1>you have five kids?

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<v Speaker 3>Big one? Yeah, we have a seventh setter that when

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's there, we have to use that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you don't just strap them onto the

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<v Speaker 2>roof or something? Yeah right, I mean you could have

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<v Speaker 2>a sleigh. You are father Christmas. Ever started martial arts?

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<v Speaker 2>What type of martial arts? Oh? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Many? Initially wing chung, which is a Chinese kung fu kung.

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<v Speaker 1>Fu I started.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to study kung fu as a kid because

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<v Speaker 2>my eyesight and hand eye coordination is terrible and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to get me into sports. She said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>try and kick a footy. Look at me. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that would ever? Happen was no good?

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<v Speaker 3>A foot yeah okay. Kung fu yeah, yep, China which

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<v Speaker 3>is another form of kung fu, which is Chinese jiu jitsu. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>my tie. And then Northern style kung fu, which is

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<v Speaker 3>kicking a lot of kicking. Yes, which says you can

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<v Speaker 3>tell probably not very good short stocking, but I got through.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you just to imagine Father Christmas doing martial arts,

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<v Speaker 2>ok it's really good image, It's really good. So what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do today is based on that background information.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to also ask you three questions, and from

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<v Speaker 2>the answer to those three questions, I have to work

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<v Speaker 2>out what you are concealing from me. Okay, and if

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<v Speaker 2>the answer is you are Father Christmas, I've already done. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but okay, on the good list, okay, okay. First question

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<v Speaker 2>we have is what is the most interesting place you've visited.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's a hard one, but I would say the

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<v Speaker 3>battle fields of Guineasburg. How's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Then all right, well, this is what the hell's

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds scary? What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's from the American Civil War. It's a three day battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty thousand men were killed in three days. Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>very very nasty piece of work.

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<v Speaker 2>For beautiful to tell me today is really lifted the

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<v Speaker 2>mood here today. That's okay, that's all right, Okay, second battles,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just write there down there, Okay. Second, Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have a favorite holiday, as in, like, yeah, not going

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<v Speaker 2>on a holiday, but you know, like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I could be good Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, no, I do. I look, I love Christmas,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would have to say for me, Halloween is

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<v Speaker 3>the big one.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, my favorite too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I like that We're starting to get into

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<v Speaker 2>it a bit more these days, addressing up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really changed. I got my young blog, my youngest one.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a box of Halloween decorations and pulls it

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<v Speaker 3>out and decorates the front of the house every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember convincing my mum during high school to let

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<v Speaker 2>me build a haunted house on our front veranda.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>She let me like staple.

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<v Speaker 2>Gun black tarps all over the thing, and she couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get in and out of the house about going through

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<v Speaker 2>this haunted house, bless herself. And then we finally packed

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<v Speaker 2>it up after Halloween, and she's like, Jackie, there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Few splots of blood still around. She said, don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>your stepfather. But just baby, don't do that again.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you so much bloody?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, that's fantastic, dropped some blood a over the walls. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And lastly, if you had a midlife crisis, what would

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<v Speaker 2>you end up doing?

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for midlife crisis, now, I say.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've already had a mid loft cross. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I would take off and travel the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Travel the world? Yeah, oh wow, go back to your

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<v Speaker 2>battle zones. There you can visit every place where millions

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<v Speaker 2>of people have done it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, all the yes, the nasty places.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, how morbon? Okay, very much?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Halloween battles, traveling, traveling the battle Halloween. Okay, alright,

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<v Speaker 2>So based on all of this, I have to guess

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<v Speaker 2>what I think you're concealing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You like to visit battle fields and see things, You

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<v Speaker 2>like to travel the world, okay, and your favorite holiday

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<v Speaker 2>is Halloween. I know you're giving me all of those things,

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<v Speaker 2>But looking at you, I just reckon. I reckon you

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<v Speaker 2>are Santa impersonator? Are you a father Christmas? Santa impersonator?

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<v Speaker 3>What about the real Sentacus? No, I'm not No, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not me, not the real Santa. I'm not the real one,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. I'm a paranormal investigator. I've been in the

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<v Speaker 3>field for thirty six years. I work with all sorts

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<v Speaker 3>of cases, trying to help people and educate people on

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<v Speaker 3>all things paranormal.

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<v Speaker 1>A paranormal investigator. Yes, have you seen a ghost? No,

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell me again, don't tell me. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to know. I don want to know. Okay, So Bill

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<v Speaker 1>is not Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 2>He is, in fact a paranormal investigator.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what he's seen. Am I here?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I? Your ghosts?

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<v Speaker 2>Is here?

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<v Speaker 1>A ghosts? Are you a ghost?

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<v Speaker 3>Who?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I? Who are you? Where are we? What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's down? Let's find a help? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>We are here with Bill and we've just found out

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<v Speaker 2>that No, you are not Santa Claus, but you are

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<v Speaker 2>a paranormal investigator.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Where do we start? Where do we start? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>After bat, I don't care about how you got into it,

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<v Speaker 2>just yet I would know. Have you seen a ghost?

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<v Speaker 3>I have?

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<v Speaker 1>How many ghosts have you seen?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 1>Count them?

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<v Speaker 3>Lots lots, some some you saw the full body, some

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<v Speaker 3>you see bits, orbs orbs?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you an or parana person?

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<v Speaker 3>I am in the sense that I've actually seen them

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<v Speaker 3>with my own eyes rather than photos and photos. I

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<v Speaker 3>know that, you know, I understand. I believe that a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them are false positives. I reckon they're dust

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<v Speaker 3>particles and most of them are. But I've watched them

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<v Speaker 3>with my own eyes. Yeah, I've seen them, seen them operate.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, how did you get into it?

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<v Speaker 3>Always had an interest in the paranormal since before I

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<v Speaker 3>can even remember, because a little kid, I'd watch everything,

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<v Speaker 3>read everything I could get my hands on. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just this interest, you know, in anything that was sort

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<v Speaker 3>of unusual, you know what I mean, we're all vampires whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Back then it was, you know, whereas my wife she's

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<v Speaker 3>been seeing spirits since she was two. You know, she

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<v Speaker 3>is dead. She sees dead people. She actually works on

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<v Speaker 3>cold cases and a lot of things like that. So

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<v Speaker 3>oh wow, yeah, like a duo were dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe, Yes, okay, all right, so missus course can see

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<v Speaker 2>the dead people, right, yeah. So she has more sensibility, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>sens where you can like find with machines and things.

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<v Speaker 3>Mine is much more Yeah, the technical side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, when the superheroes and there's like Batman who

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<v Speaker 2>just has all the fancy quick Man, and there's like

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<v Speaker 2>Superman who actually has the.

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<v Speaker 3>Pan exactly exactly definitely the Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I want to know the first experience of

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<v Speaker 2>like seeing your first ghost or thing or energy or

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<v Speaker 2>what like?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the first experience I had was actually when my

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<v Speaker 3>just after my grandfather had passed away. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 3>still quite young and I saw him in a dream.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I came out and I spoke to my

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<v Speaker 3>father and my sister, they both had exactly the same

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<v Speaker 3>dream at the same night, So we all had the

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<v Speaker 3>three of us had the same dream. That was probably

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<v Speaker 3>the first real paranormal what I believe to be paranormal

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<v Speaker 3>contact that we had with spirit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say you're a paranormal investigator, yes, does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean that people can bring you out to research

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<v Speaker 2>or find or discover or yep?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay, how would an investigation run that?

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<v Speaker 3>Basically we received a job or you know, a question

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<v Speaker 3>and under you know, someday we've got something going on,

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<v Speaker 3>can you help us. There's quite a few chats interviews

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<v Speaker 3>that we run. We assess the people obviously the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>human nature, we fear what we don't understand, so we

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<v Speaker 3>have a chat to them. It's a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 3>We can settle it with just a chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, vibes, that was just the earth.

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<v Speaker 3>The earth moved, you know, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Your air conditioner was on.

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<v Speaker 3>It was probably the There's so much stuff that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just having a chat to them, and even if it

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<v Speaker 3>is paranormal, sometimes it's you know, it might be just

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<v Speaker 3>old Oni Mary visiting, you know, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not necessarily bad. So after that, what we do

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<v Speaker 3>is we decide we're going to go in and conduct

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<v Speaker 3>an investigation. We'll first off go in and check the

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<v Speaker 3>place out to look for things like high EMF levels

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<v Speaker 3>which can cause hallucinations and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Black noise which can cause hallucinations. Noise it's infrasound. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>it can make you see feel here, things can make

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<v Speaker 3>you sick. It can give you all the symptoms of

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<v Speaker 3>a classic haunting.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh are you saying that it's that, But that's not halting, that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not sextual sound, yes that we can't hear with

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<v Speaker 3>our ear.

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<v Speaker 1>But effect mold. But it's a sound the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know it can it can affect you, but

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<v Speaker 3>you can't you might not see it.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it come from?

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<v Speaker 3>It could come from anything, can come from machinery, It

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<v Speaker 3>could come from natural sources are like a wind tunnel,

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<v Speaker 3>or there's a whole range of things have come from.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if we if we can't find anything like that,

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<v Speaker 3>we go in and do an investigation and try to

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<v Speaker 3>help them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you can measure for black black sound, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>infra sound, infra sound, black noise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Wow, that's what my next album is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be called. Actually black noise.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone would be a raving sound conel visualize really great.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it's it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're just like going in and you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's find something.

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<v Speaker 3>But then with the vacuum cleaners on our back, are

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<v Speaker 3>you going.

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<v Speaker 2>In there to like confirm that something's happening or to

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<v Speaker 2>cleanse the space?

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<v Speaker 3>Most well, not firm. We go in there neutral. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're going there and see if we can find something.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not there with the presumption that there is something

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<v Speaker 3>paranoral or there isn't unless we are seeing evidence to

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<v Speaker 3>the contrary, and then we'll go either way. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if we feel that it needs a cleansing or a

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<v Speaker 3>spirit needs to be what we call spirit rescue or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. Spirit risk yeah, where we help them

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<v Speaker 3>to move on because some of them get stuck. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't even know they're dead a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they do, they just don't want to move on.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's spirit risky. It sounds like it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to spit risky today. Jennie's come on, find

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<v Speaker 2>the light. Jenday's Genese is Jenday's follow the noise here

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<v Speaker 2>it is, come on Jena's.

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<v Speaker 3>So we do what we need to help the person,

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<v Speaker 3>and we also teach them how to you know, cleanse

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<v Speaker 3>the house as well. You know it's mudge sticks or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever else we might use.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a circumstance where you haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 2>cleanse a particular area space how Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've had I've had occasions when I've had to

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<v Speaker 3>call clergy in to help as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're religious people. Yeah wow, that's like Exorsust five that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, guys, it's beyond me. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to go in there and read a book to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, tell me in some cases it's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it depends, it depends on what needs to be done,

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<v Speaker 3>and every case is different. We have to adjust our

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<v Speaker 3>investigations in our work to each case. Okay, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what is What is the scariest experience?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't get scared.

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<v Speaker 3>Because anyone that says I don't get scared when they

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<v Speaker 3>do this work, it is talking crap. If I could

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<v Speaker 3>say great, because I've seen men like I'm a big guy,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've seen big guys like run from places because

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<v Speaker 3>they've been scared. And it's natural, like you, you have fear,

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<v Speaker 3>but we we try to learn to control that fear.

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<v Speaker 3>And because the job we're trying to do is to

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<v Speaker 3>help people. Yeah, and not just living but the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that are parts us as well. And if you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if a door squeaks and I go off running, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna help anyone, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>So we're you know, we really try to control that

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<v Speaker 3>that urge that humans get to get fight or flight,

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<v Speaker 3>fight to flight exactly. Probably the scariest place I've been

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<v Speaker 3>was a World War two bunker and there was one

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<v Speaker 3>way in, one way out, and the outside of it was.

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<v Speaker 3>You couldn't walk through it. There was that much bortion

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<v Speaker 3>just inaccessible. And we went in there. Now, someone took

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<v Speaker 3>me to check this place out about ten o'clock at night.

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<v Speaker 3>I walked in this place. There was already candles lit

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<v Speaker 3>in there. So that's the first we're not on our

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<v Speaker 3>owne here, and the candle's already lid. Yeah, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 3>but there was no one around. There was no one.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't see anyone coming out, We didn't see anyone

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<v Speaker 3>going in. We went around the place charge the chocolate factory.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody goes making the chocolate. We don't know the Olympers, ghosts,

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<v Speaker 2>ghost to Olympers.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was.

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<v Speaker 1>You lid.

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<v Speaker 3>We're only going in for a look. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>had started hearing these things moving around outside. But it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't that that was scary. It was a energy of

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<v Speaker 3>the place. It felt really bad. Yeah, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in places where I've had I've had knives

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<v Speaker 3>like throwing from spirit pictures far and off walls. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen you know, I've had furniture moving. I've done all that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that scares you. But this really was unsettling. It

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<v Speaker 3>was really uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd rather have pictures thrown at you from a ghost

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<v Speaker 2>and knives thd you goes then being a nice candlehit

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<v Speaker 2>bunker with the Olympic.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty much, I'm saying yeah. I felt it felt

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<v Speaker 3>really bad and that's probably the most I've been that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been scary.

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<v Speaker 1>How I'm going to go? Oh do you Well?

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<v Speaker 3>We decided we thought, well, we're better leave, so.

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<v Speaker 1>We interrupted me.

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<v Speaker 3>We walked out and we got in the car and

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<v Speaker 3>my friend was driving, and we had all the windows

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<v Speaker 3>up and everything, and there was it was a gravel

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<v Speaker 3>road and one of the rocks somehow hit him in

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<v Speaker 3>the back of the head while we were in the car.

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<v Speaker 3>So something through a.

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<v Speaker 2>Rock maybe fun. Maybe they followed you in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're still in the car now. They could be

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<v Speaker 2>check the backseat. So why do you like Gettysburg so much?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Gettysburg wise, I said, it's a battlefield, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of death, a lot of dying, a lot of suffering,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've wanted to go there forever. Just an amazing place,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the energy of the place, the experiences were great,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've I've actually been there twice. I was really

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<v Speaker 3>lucky and both times had some really amazing experiences. We

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<v Speaker 3>do a we do think or a shout out when

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<v Speaker 3>we have public investigations. So what we'll do is we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get if we have a big location, we'll get people

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<v Speaker 3>to spread out and we'll a shout out is either

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a scream, all right, we'll yell at hello

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>What that does is a sound vibration.

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<v Speaker 2>Were going halla, hallah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was last thinking about the people standing outside the

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<v Speaker 3>building walking past round what the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, you get this big shout out. Now you

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<v Speaker 3>can imagine we were actually in an inn, an old

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<v Speaker 3>inn that was built in like seventeen fifty six or

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<v Speaker 3>seventy fifty eight in a little town just outside of

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<v Speaker 3>Gettysburg called Fairfield, and like this is dead, this town

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<v Speaker 3>is quiet as so we've got twenty odd people spread

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<v Speaker 3>out through this location and my mate and myself was

0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.800
<v Speaker 3>standing on the stairs. We had a voice recorder going.

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<v Speaker 3>We all had voice recorders and we are one, two, three, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and we do it three times and then right go

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<v Speaker 3>and listen to it. So we're listening to it, and

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<v Speaker 3>you hear this southern accent after I think the second

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<v Speaker 3>time was I think I can't remember off the top

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<v Speaker 3>of my head. It says, did you hear that, Captain?

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<v Speaker 3>And it was like, but weally Southern drill. Now, the

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<v Speaker 3>funny thing is in the battle there was North in

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<v Speaker 3>the South, the South, you know, being the Confederates, And

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<v Speaker 3>when they retreated out of Gettysburg, this inn and this

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<v Speaker 3>whole town, but this inn especially they dumped their dead

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<v Speaker 3>and dying, right, so at one stage it was a

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<v Speaker 3>mass grave out the back for these soldiers that had died.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can have and that there would be quite

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<v Speaker 3>a few spirits there, and there was. I had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of experiences there. My question to sort of make

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<v Speaker 3>people think he is always did we contact the spirit

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<v Speaker 3>or do we somehow do we somehow send that energy

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<v Speaker 3>back to the time of the battle and get a response. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the thing. But it's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you time travel vice? Spirits?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's it's getting better or worse in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of people's conceptions within the world of paranoral investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Really good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are a lot of people out there being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>guys are like three ghosts today and like the leadst

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of them and you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, guys, stop ruining it for us. That making us

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<v Speaker 1>look stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right. That the paranormal field has hard enough

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<v Speaker 3>time as it is. And when I see people doing

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<v Speaker 3>really silly things or stating things that you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>oh look this bottle of water, he is possessed, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know bubbles, you know whatever. In some ways

0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.679
<v Speaker 3>it's getting worse because people have so easy access to

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<v Speaker 3>social media to show these things and without any vetting.

0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.040
<v Speaker 2>What was even like a trend for a while still

0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.679
<v Speaker 2>as on the internet YouTube videos, if you're going, I

0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.920
<v Speaker 2>went into a hanted house for twelve hours and here's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, and it's just like a bunch of teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>going like ah, and it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes us look silly. Yeah, you know, I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>what I do. Like, I mean, I'm joke and ye

0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.359
<v Speaker 3>with everyone as best of them. But when we're working

0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.879
<v Speaker 3>it's serious. And people say, you know, ghosts can't hurt you,

0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.639
<v Speaker 3>ghosts can't do this, I can't do that, And you

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<v Speaker 3>know I'll tell you you're wrong. They can hurt you

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<v Speaker 3>if they if they are so inclined. Yeah, it sounds silly.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a bit sick to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, Hollywood has a lot to answer for. Well, yes,

0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.879
<v Speaker 3>but if a spirit is nasty enough, they can Actually

0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I have seen and I've felt it myself oviously had

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<v Speaker 3>something to try to push me downstairs. I felt a

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<v Speaker 3>big hand in the back of my on my back

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<v Speaker 3>commun a shelf. Luckily I had a grip on the railing.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even bring all the presents that the children

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<v Speaker 2>the stairs exactly, someone to have to put the suit

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<v Speaker 2>on them becomes center.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon that ghosts to be Santa.

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's it's a bit terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say that the larger majority of spirits are

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<v Speaker 2>like grumpy little bitches or they're like nice ones.

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.960
<v Speaker 3>It's really like our population, you reckon, Some are bad,

0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.000
<v Speaker 3>some are really bad. Yeah, you know. I've had like

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<v Speaker 3>a little girl spirit come and actually hold my hand

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.720
<v Speaker 3>in this in this investigation, and you could feel several times,

0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.640
<v Speaker 3>and you could feel from like halfway up the forearm.

0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.440
<v Speaker 3>My whole hand just turned ice when she held it

0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.560
<v Speaker 3>turned cold. She was a nice spirit, right, the reason

0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.840
<v Speaker 3>that she sounds quite nice and I could feel her

0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:52.680
<v Speaker 3>at day. But I could feel her hand in my hand.

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I could feel it getting cold. And I had a

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<v Speaker 3>meeting with me and I said, well, why she holding

0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.720
<v Speaker 3>my hands? Apparently because of my beard. I was like

0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.080
<v Speaker 3>a dad and she felt safe. Yeah, she wouldn't go

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.199
<v Speaker 3>do anyone else, but she felt safe with me. So

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.560
<v Speaker 3>that's a nice one. But I've had some, you know,

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.879
<v Speaker 3>that are really nasty as well. You know, when we

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 3>deal with them, say come.

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 2>My only interaction with a spirit slash ghost is I

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 2>used to work at Dracula's Cabaret in Melbourne. It was

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.399
<v Speaker 2>always haunted, and we always said it was haunted not

0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:20.880
<v Speaker 2>because it's Straculas, because.

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.639
<v Speaker 1>It was like a factory years yer because of very

0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:23.159
<v Speaker 1>old building.

0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and apparently her name was Antoinette and she fell

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 2>off into like a big vat or something. And if

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.480
<v Speaker 2>you were ever there, like once the patrons had left

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.679
<v Speaker 2>and you're just packing up, you could sense her and

0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you could like see.

0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Her out the corner of your eye movement. Yeah, you'd

0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.439
<v Speaker 1>be like, what is she doing? And I think she

0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:41.359
<v Speaker 1>was fine. We liked her.

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.639
<v Speaker 2>She was a nasty Yeah, she's like, hi, guys, you're

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<v Speaker 2>know a line. I'm here, your friend's going I want

0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.080
<v Speaker 2>to play now. I don't think she actually sounded like that,

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.920
<v Speaker 2>but you know, maybe you never know. Yeah, and she'd

0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:56.000
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, it's it's a bit more antientity, like

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that very much. Yeah, I'll have to go back and

0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 2>visit her one day. Is there anything happening here? Are

0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.440
<v Speaker 2>you sensing anything here? Just a little child? Yeah, and

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.320
<v Speaker 2>he wants around. He's not threatening on nasty or anything.

0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 2>But there's also an old man outside the building here

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you'll see walking around with a wheelbarrow full of powder.

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<v Speaker 1>And say night, just set my makeup, thank.

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<v Speaker 3>You, Because there was a frank of flour mill here

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<v Speaker 3>and that's wheelbarrowing and that's what you're seeing. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just a couple. I'm sure there's a lot more,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine getting stuck as it goes and just having any

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<v Speaker 2>good job for the rest And that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Grumpy.

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<v Speaker 2>doing a hen's party for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill me now, no, don't kill me, keep me alive. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill isn't Santa Claus. No, he's actually a paronrmal investigator.

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