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Speaker 2: Good morning, Gave, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: How are you, yeah, really well, thank you for your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Now mate, A bit of bad news

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Speaker 1: Do you have any reasons, like, what's the reason that

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Speaker 1: Gave very quick question before I let you go. Someone's

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Speaker 1: Oh mate, you should have seen me trying to watch

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Speaker 2: I don't know where. That's the answer your listener wanted

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Speaker 1: really appreciate your time this morning, and no doubt we'll

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,