1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Bungelung Calcottin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os It's Monday, 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: the twenty second of May. I'm zara, i'm nina. One 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: year ago today we were waking up to a labor 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Albersi government for the very first time. That followed their 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: victory at the twenty twenty two election. 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Tonight, the Australian people have voted for change. 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: Last election, we saw a return to labor after nearly 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: a decade. We saw the rise of the teals, and 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: we also saw an overwhelming sense that young people had 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: been a defining factor in changing the course of a country. 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: In today's deep Dive, a year after the federal election, 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: we're going to look back at the key issues that 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: define that election and find out what progress has been 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: made by the Albanese government since the First Nina What's 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: making headlines. 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 4: Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi has attended the G seven summit 23 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: in Japan. On the sidelines of the summit, Albanzi met 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: with US President Joe Biden after Biden was forced to 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: cancel his visit to Australia this week to return to 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: debt sealing negotiations in the US. Ukraine's leader of Vladimir Zelenski, 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: also attended the summit to discuss the supply of weapons 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: to Ukraine and economic sanctions on Russia. 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: External gambling related signs at pubs and clubs will be 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: banned in New South Wales from the start of September. 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: Signs that you might have seen advertising a venue's VIP 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: lounge or golden room will be amongst those banned, with 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: an eleven thousand dollars maximum penalty to be enforced under 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: the new rules. 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: At least nine people have died in a stampede at 36 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: a football game in the capital of El Salvador, San Salvador. 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 4: The crush occurred after fans tried to access the match 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: after gates had been closed. Up to five hundred people 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 4: received treatment at the scene, with El Salvadoran police saying 40 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 4: there will be a criminal investigation into the. 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: Incident and the good news. Sylvia Nupunditch has become the 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: first ever female commentator to broadcast the dream Time at 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: the GAFILM match in language. Nupunditch was part of the 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: four persand team calling the match between Essendon and Richmond 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: in the traditional Yo Mu Matha language. Her commentary is 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: Broadcaster Communities across the Northern Territory. 47 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: One year ago today, you were doing this podcast with 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: Tom and you were bringing everyone the news that over 49 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: the weekend the government had changed. Do you remember how 50 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: you were feeling that morning? 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: Very tired. That was the overriding sentiment. We at that 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: point a year ago had a much smaller TDA team 53 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: than we do now, So we had spent the evening 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: and actually well through the night as a very small, 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: nimble team trying to produce, you know, reams and reams 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: of information for our audience. But the next morning, I 57 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: think I was feeling the weight of what had happened, 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 2: and not necessarily that there was a change of government. 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 2: I'm not going to comment on that, but more so 60 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: that young people and all the commentators were saying it. 61 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Young people had really made a difference at that election, 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: and that came out in who we voted for, but 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: also the issues that came to the forefront at that election. 64 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: And so TDA had been doing polling in the lead 65 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: up to that election. What were the big issues that 66 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: were emerging that were cheaping young people's decisions. 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean it would have been a year 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: and a week ago. We were asking our audience as 69 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: they were going to the ballot box what really mattered 70 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: to them, and overwhelmingly, and this will not surprise anybody, 71 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: the top issue that came back time and time again 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: was climate change. But after that, there were a few 73 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: other things that came up, things like cost of living, 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: health integrity, which is an interesting one because I feel 75 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: like that's kind of gone away a bit, and also housing, 76 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: which as we know from our pods last week, has 77 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: not gone away as an issue. Our audience also cared 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: deeply about the ULARU Statement from the Heart, which Anthony 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: Alberezi put front and center on election night. 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 4: Part of what we do on this podcast is assess 81 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: what the government's doing, inform people about the progress they're 82 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: making and the policy areas that are stalling. On the 83 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: one year mark, from that election. Let's look at some 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: of the key promises they made. I think climate, integrity, 85 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: the ulary statement. Those are three things that really stand 86 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: out to me as being some of the key policy 87 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: areas from that election. Should we start with. 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: Climate, Yeah, definitely a good starting point given how much 89 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: our audience cared. So tda's editor Billy Fitzimons did an 90 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: interview with the now PM he was then the opposition leader, 91 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi before the last election, and he too acknowledged 92 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: that climate was a key area of concern for young people. 93 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 5: Now young people understand it's about their future. It's not 94 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: just about the environment, it's about their way of life 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 5: and it's having an impact. We've seen that with the 96 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 5: floods and the bushfires. So action on climate change is 97 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 5: the number one issue that is raised with. 98 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: Me going into the election. Labour's top line policy was 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: that they were committed to net zero by twenty fifty 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 2: and so was the coalition and forty three percent reduction 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: of carbon emissions on two thousand and five levels by 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: twenty thirty, So two separate targets, but those were the 103 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: pillars on which the Labor Party's climate policy was based. 104 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: At the time. We did challenge Anthony Alberzi on those targets. 105 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 6: The Labor Party's twenty thirty emissions reduction target is lower 106 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 6: than what it was going into the twenty nine federal election. 107 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 6: The evidence shows that the climate crisis is getting were so, 108 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 6: why would your policies go backwards? 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: Well, they haven't gone backwards. I think it's a much 110 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: more substantial the lesser than it was in twenty nineteen. Well, 111 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: we've had three years of inaction, so our. 112 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 6: Policy shouldn't they be more ambitious? 113 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: Well, our policy now is over eight years rather than 114 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 5: over eleven for twenty thirty, so we had a consistent 115 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 5: position of net zero by twenty fifty. 116 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: So that was the target Labor took to the election, 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: and that's the target the government has been working towards since. 118 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: How have they set out to achieve it? 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: In September last year, the government legislated that emissions target, 120 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: so they basically enshrined what I just said those two 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: targets were, but put it in law. So remember one 122 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: of those goals was the forty three percent emissions reductions 123 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: below two thousand and five levels by twenty thirty. And 124 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: in terms of how the government's going on achieving that. 125 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: At the end of last year, they projected that based 126 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: on some of the plans that they, as the Government, 127 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: had set out to implement, they'd be reaching a forty 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: percent reduction on two thousand and five levels by twenty thirty, 129 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: so fairly close to their forty three percent target. In 130 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: March this year, the government also passed a Safeguard Mechanism Bill, 131 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: which I swear to God has got way too much 132 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: airtime on this podcast. But it puts a cap on 133 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: total emissions, which the government says will help them get 134 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: to their forty three percent goal. And that was a 135 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: piece of contentious legislation that required a bit of to 136 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: and fro with the Green to the minor party that 137 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: actually hold a lot of power in the Senate. So 138 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: there was that forty three percent goal, but as I've said, 139 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: there was also another target, and that was to hit 140 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: net zero by twenty fifty. 141 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: But on that twenty fifty target, one of the discussions 142 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: that happens during the election and still happens today is 143 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: whether or not it's actually ambitious enough. 144 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it should be said that 145 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: there are critics of the government's twenty thirty policy as well, 146 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,239 Speaker 2: that there are claims that that doesn't go far enough. 147 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: But in terms of the twenty fifty goal, we've had 148 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: directly in the IPCC report that reaching that zero by 149 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: twenty fifty is not ambitious enough and that reductions are 150 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: needed immediately, And I mean that does seem to be 151 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: at odds with the fact that the government is still 152 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: approving new fossil fuel projects. We discussed Environment Minister Tanya 153 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: Plibasek a proving a coal mine last week on the POD. 154 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: When negotiating the Safeguard Mechanism Bill, the Greens were pushing 155 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: for no new gas and coal projects, but in the 156 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: end the government refused to go that far. But that 157 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: continues to be a point of contention. And I think 158 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: if we're thinking about how to assess the government's action 159 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: on climate so far, they've done what they said they 160 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: would do in terms of legislating those targets. They are 161 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: now there in law for everybody to see whether or 162 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: not they get there is another point, and the third 163 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: is are they actually ambitious enough. 164 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: Let's talk about integrity, because I think that was something 165 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: we heard about so much in the lead up to 166 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: the election and then not all that much about ever since. 167 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was reflecting on this. I mean, given it's 168 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: the one year anniversary and all that, and this seems 169 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: like the really big one that defined the twenty twenty 170 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: two election and has almost completely gone out of like 171 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: popular media commentary since then. So before the last election, 172 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: Labor promised what's called a National Anti Corruption Commission, and 173 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: that was basically going to be an independent body that 174 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: had the power to investigate corruption in the public sector. 175 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: It was a huge issue. Labor had to come out 176 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: really strongly, and it was also one of the biggest 177 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: points of difference that Labor had with the coalition during 178 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: that election campaign. Now, bodies like a corruption Commission already 179 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: exist in all states and territories. So there's EYEKAC in 180 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: New South Wales which is investigating Gladys Baro Jiclian. There's 181 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: IBACK in Victoria that's looked into Dan Andrews and part 182 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: of his government, but there was no equivalent at a 183 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: national level. Labor committed to introducing legislation to form a 184 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: National Anti Corruption Commission by the end of twenty twenty two. 185 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: That was their election commitment. They have now done that. 186 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: That legislation has passed and the new commission is set 187 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: to commence on July first this year. 188 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: Do you think it's fair to say then that the 189 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: government has fulfilled that commitment. 190 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, if we look at it 191 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: on paper, they said that they would introduce legislation. They have, 192 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: But with anything, there has been criticism. One key area 193 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: of concern for critics is around this idea of transparency. 194 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: So under the Albanese government's plans, much of the Commission's 195 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: work will happen in private, with hearings to be made 196 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: public only in quote exceptional circumstances. Those that are critical 197 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: of the government are saying that transparency in these processes 198 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: is fundamental to actually identifying corruption, and that a lack 199 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: of it might get in the way of that process 200 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: actually unfolding as planned. So mean, it remains to be 201 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: seen how the Commission will actually function, whether it will 202 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: be an effective body, and I'm sure we'll be speaking 203 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: about that well into the future. 204 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: On election Nate, the first thing Anthony Alberanizi said as 205 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: the Prime Minister of Australia was that he committed to 206 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: implementing the Ularu statement from the heart. How is the 207 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: government tracking if we think back to that night. You're right, 208 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: he came out so strongly and. 209 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: On behalf of the Australian Labor Party, I commit to 210 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: the Ularu's Statement from the Heart and coal. 211 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: It was so clear that this was going to be 212 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: the thing that he wanted his government to be defined by. 213 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: And I'll just step it back a second to just 214 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: explain what we're saying when we talk about the Ularu 215 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: Statement from the Heart. In twenty seventeen, two hundred and 216 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 2: fifty First Nations leaders from across the country delivered and 217 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: endorsed what we now call the Uluru Statement from the Heart. 218 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: It outlined the path forward for recognizing First Nations people 219 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: in Australia's Constitution, which they are currently not recognized in. 220 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: Throughout the election, Labor promised to implement the statement in full. 221 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: It had been opposed by the Coalition while they were 222 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: in power, and Labour said if they were elected, that's 223 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: what they would do. The first step of actually implementing 224 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: the Uluru Statement is the Indigenous Voice to Parliament, which 225 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: of course we've been speaking about a lot and is 226 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: what we will vote on in a referendum at the 227 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: end of the year. 228 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: We have spoken about the Voice and the referendum a 229 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: lot on the podcast, but I feel like we haven't 230 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: actually spoken about it in a little while. So can 231 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: you just outline where we're out in the process. 232 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Yes, So, earlier this year the Government outlined what the 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: question that we will be asked at the referendum will be, 234 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: and also have given us a rough timeline for how 235 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: this will all unfold, when legislation will be tabled in Parliament, 236 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: and roughly when we should expect it all to happen. 237 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: In terms of politically speaking, the Greens have come out 238 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: and supported the Voice, as have a handful of other independents. 239 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: On the other hand, separately, in a separate times, both 240 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: the Liberal Party and the National Party have come out 241 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: and said that they will oppose a Voice to Parliament. 242 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: And you can listen back to an earlier episode when 243 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: we outline those two separate positions. But I think now 244 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: is the right time to say that whatever the Government 245 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: and the opposition say about the referendum won't actually impact 246 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 2: the vote itself, because every single person sitting in Parliament 247 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: has the same weight in terms of a vote as 248 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: you and I do. We are basically as important as 249 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: parliamentarians when it comes to a referendum, so that's a 250 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: good thing to remember when considering the upcoming referendum if 251 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: we zoom out and take it outside of Canberra. Opinion 252 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: polling that has been published in the Sydney Morning Herald 253 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: and other newspapers shows a majority support in a majority 254 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: of states for an indigenous voice to Parliament, and that 255 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: is necessary for a referendum to succeed. There is, of course, 256 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: still a very long way to go before voting day. 257 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: I think that it is clear that this is going 258 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: to be a major test for the Albanese government and 259 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: equally of Peter Dudden and the opposition. 260 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: And also once we get past the referendum, we can 261 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: also start talking in more detail about the other parts 262 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: of the Uluru Statement from the heart, including that treaty 263 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 4: and truth telling. But I think for today we've covered 264 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: a lot of ground. So thanks so much for that overview, Sarah. 265 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: And apologies for two very nasally women. 266 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: We are not in our best state of health, but 267 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: we will recover from our cold suit. 268 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Daily OS. If you 269 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,239 Speaker 2: learned something from today's episode, don't forget to hit subscribe. 270 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: So there's a TVA episode Waiting for You every weekday morning. 271 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: We'll be back again tomorrow morning, but until then, have 272 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: a brilliant day,