Speaker 1: Welcome back to TV Reload. This is my first bonus
Speaker 1: episode featuring a quick chat with I'm the celebrities, first
Speaker 1: of Victor, Jack Vigion. You might have known this talented
Speaker 1: Ozzie from his win on Australia's Got Talent or his
Speaker 1: success on the Voice. However, it's been his time in
Speaker 1: the Jungle that has shown us there is a lot
Speaker 1: more to this boy than just his amazing vocal cords.
Speaker 1: I got to have this quick chat with him on
Speaker 1: the fly as he was jam packed with media obligations,
Speaker 1: but even being the busiest of bees, he was just
Speaker 1: as charming as I imagined. I'd like to welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, Jack Vigeon.
Speaker 2: When nineteen fourteen and one Australia's Got Talent, my name's
Speaker 2: Jack Vigeon. The powered dynamic in my relationship with my
Speaker 2: mum I won twenty eleven Australia's Got Talent really changed You.
Speaker 1: Make it so proud to be Australian.
Speaker 2: I just was craving some kind of normality.
Speaker 1: Jack Vigeon, that's where we're going to see him auditioned.
Speaker 2: It's been really cool that I've just got to be
Speaker 2: myself and a show and who have warmed to it.
Speaker 1: Well done on your time in the jungle? Do you
Speaker 1: think thank you? Do you think in some ways Australia
Speaker 1: got to see you for the first time because we've
Speaker 1: got to see more of who you really are one percent.
Speaker 2: I mean a reshow've done in the past, you kind
Speaker 2: of only get to see a small snippet of I
Speaker 2: guess who I am. And it's been really cool that
Speaker 2: I've just got to be myself and a show.
Speaker 3: And people have warmed to it. It's really nice.
Speaker 1: What would you say is the most surprising thing about
Speaker 1: doing on a celebrity about the experience, I think.
Speaker 2: Just the stuff that you learn about yourself and especially
Speaker 2: watching it back.
Speaker 3: I think for me it's really a fan To me,
Speaker 3: you're kind of.
Speaker 2: Like I said before, it's like just getting to be
Speaker 2: yourself and people liking that is so refreshing. Yeah, but no,
Speaker 2: it's just that it's because it's obviously but if you're not.
Speaker 3: Doing a trial, you're kind of just hanging around all
Speaker 3: day in the camp and so just a lot of
Speaker 3: time of reflection.
Speaker 2: I think I can probably for everyone when it's like
Speaker 2: you really do you think about your relationships and life
Speaker 2: a lot? And you reflect on all those kinds of things,
Speaker 2: and I think it's a really powerful time for all
Speaker 2: of us there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I must admit, you know, watching it that moment
Speaker 1: in the jungle where you talked about the relationship you've
Speaker 1: had with your mum, you know, after a soon it's
Speaker 1: got talent and being projected into this industry, and that
Speaker 1: you made the comment that you could have been nicer.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was getting myself while I have
Speaker 2: so much resentment now that.
Speaker 3: I can't control. Yeah, I think in here I'm just
Speaker 3: reflecting on how.
Speaker 1: Better How did she respond to that watching I'm a celebrity,
Speaker 1: Like what sort of a conversation have you both had
Speaker 1: about that? In reflection now.
Speaker 2: I think it's been really really healing for us, to
Speaker 2: be honest. She was in tears like watching it, and
Speaker 2: so was I. And I think that was the one
Speaker 2: moment where I was quite nervous to come on TV
Speaker 2: because I mean, like, I'm such an advocate for therapy
Speaker 2: and I've been going to therapy for years now and
Speaker 2: being able to it puts It gives you a vocabulary
Speaker 2: for how you navigate your life and relationships and things
Speaker 2: that have happened to you. And it's It's been really
Speaker 2: powerful for me, and I think I've been really fortunate
Speaker 2: to be able to be a part of powerful conversations
Speaker 2: on the show and for those who have aired, and
Speaker 2: I'm really grateful for that because I think there's definitely
Speaker 2: been some conversations like that one with my mum and
Speaker 2: other ones like with Dipper and that sexuality and about
Speaker 2: all different kinds of things that I think was really
Speaker 2: great to be on TV for people watching and for
Speaker 2: young people to be watching. And it's definitely an honor
Speaker 2: for me to be a part of something like that.
Speaker 3: When you said, you know what, enough of this, I'm out?
Speaker 3: How much better than did.
Speaker 2: One of the most incredible feelings of your life?
Speaker 3: And how did you do it?
Speaker 2: You just said, you know what, Well, I started seeing
Speaker 2: my ex at the time, so it was the end
Speaker 2: of me being nineteen and.
Speaker 3: We started seeing each other and we both.
Speaker 2: Kind of I think that gave me the courage because
Speaker 2: we both came out together to our families and friends,
Speaker 2: and I think that helps having someone else kind of
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 1: With it well. It's definitely the standout moment for me
Speaker 1: was the bond that you managed to create with Dipper.
Speaker 1: Do you think we need to see more honest conversations
Speaker 1: on mainstream television, especially when we're highlighting issues of you know,
Speaker 1: for young people, including sexuality, but also about our appearance.
Speaker 3: For sure, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to go into this and
Speaker 2: just be super honest, because people don't buy bullshit, and people,
Speaker 2: I think really appreciate authentic conversation. And there was just
Speaker 2: so many conversations in like with Paulini about her her
Speaker 2: history with racism, and the conversations about body image, and
Speaker 2: I think it's they're all really important topics.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know this this is really the first time
Speaker 1: we've seen rumors about what sort of television or reality
Speaker 1: television they've asked you to do. Are you able to say,
Speaker 1: you know, has there been other calls for you to
Speaker 1: do other things like Big Brother? I mean, I know
Speaker 1: we're in the you're in the media being mentioned as
Speaker 1: maybe being a part of that show. Was that a
Speaker 1: real thing? Did they call you and were you waiting.
Speaker 3: For something more?
Speaker 1: Like I'm a celebrity.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's different opportunities that come up all the time,
Speaker 2: and I think it's for me. I'm such a feelings
Speaker 2: and vibes person that's like this what really felt like
Speaker 2: something that I wanted to do, and especially like the
Speaker 2: last I mean, I'm a feelings vibe person all, but
Speaker 2: also I COVID is such a bitch.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't it doesn't discriminate.
Speaker 2: So like I lost all my work for the year
Speaker 2: and this coming up and like was like it was
Speaker 2: just so awesome for me, and I think it was
Speaker 2: exactly so.
Speaker 3: I had the same conversation with.
Speaker 2: Everyone in there, Like everyone really, I think, apart from
Speaker 2: Grant with family feud, really suffered in terms of work,
Speaker 2: and that just it just goes to show that we're
Speaker 2: all human and we're all have been affected by this
Speaker 2: thing that's happened. But this really did feel it felt
Speaker 2: right at the time, and there was also lots of
Speaker 2: things in my life happening, and just the timing of it,
Speaker 2: it just it really felt right.
Speaker 1: Over the years, we've really seen you put a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure, I guess on yourself, but also Australia puts
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on you. Considering we've brought into
Speaker 1: a twenty eleven that Australia has caught talent moment, how
Speaker 1: have you been able to cope, Like what's been able
Speaker 1: to help you through?
Speaker 3: Well? To be honest, I mean I didn't cope for
Speaker 3: a while. I really didn't cope, and I stopped. I stopped.
Speaker 2: I stopped singing, and I didn't do any kind of
Speaker 2: work related singing for five years, and I packed around Europe.
Speaker 3: I got really involved in church life.
Speaker 2: I wanted to just I worked in age care, I
Speaker 2: worked in my uncle's deli, just because, like, I've really
Speaker 2: just got overwhelmed. I think because I was so young
Speaker 2: and I didn't know how to navigate that world. And
Speaker 2: I really and yes, I didn't cote for a while,
Speaker 2: And I think it was the best thing I could
Speaker 2: have done was step back from it. To be honest,
Speaker 2: I don't know where I be if I had kept
Speaker 2: trying to kind of slog away. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 2: was the best thing I could have done, was just
Speaker 2: stop and live life a bit away from public life,
Speaker 2: went away from trying to have a music career.
Speaker 1: Do people come up and ask you about whether or
Speaker 1: not they should go on these singing shows? What sort
Speaker 1: of advice do you hand over to them?
Speaker 3: Yeah? They do, actually, And.
Speaker 2: The thing is I can only speak from my own
Speaker 2: personal experience, and I'm the thing is, even though I
Speaker 2: think the way my life has gone has different, things
Speaker 2: have manifested and in healthy and unhealthy ways. I've hit
Speaker 2: that to my journey. It's not to say that that's
Speaker 2: going to happen to someone else. But also I'm really
Speaker 2: grateful because the things that have happened, like I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be in a police probably now or I'm doing. I'm
Speaker 2: a celebrity and it's been such a positive response, and
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer and everything's just meant to be.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's always hard when people ask me, especially young.
Speaker 2: People, because I think going on a show really young
Speaker 2: can really fuck you up, but it also makes you
Speaker 2: grow up quite quickly and you learned about life a
Speaker 2: very quick clean and adulting.
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Speaker 1: What's the vagus rumor that you've ever heard about yourself
Speaker 1: that's just made you laugh out loud.
Speaker 3: I don't know. There's just so many all the time.
Speaker 3: But I think the one.
Speaker 2: That just keeps just just in every single article probably
Speaker 2: will be in this one.
Speaker 3: Is that the plastic surgery thing.
Speaker 2: Because I've had botox and phillis my face, it's like
Speaker 2: constantly surgery, surgery, surgery, surgery, and.
Speaker 3: I've never had plastic surgery.
Speaker 2: But because I mean, but I think as well, some
Speaker 2: people aren't exposed to that world. And none of people
Speaker 2: in their life that have ever had fill orbotops, and
Speaker 2: I think they look at that and they go, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's plastic surgery.
Speaker 3: So that's probably the one that pops up all the time.
Speaker 1: I think. You know, for years, we used to think
Speaker 1: about any kind of cosmetic surgery, whether it's lip injectional
Speaker 1: fillers or whatever. We used to sort of attach that
Speaker 1: to you know, older ladies or something. And then these days,
Speaker 1: younger people are now embracing it, and there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. I think if you've got small things that
Speaker 1: you'd like to fix and you're happy with it, and
Speaker 1: that's going to make you feel more confident, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's each to their own. Do you do
Speaker 1: you think do you think young people looking up to
Speaker 1: you with that sort of stuff, what advice do you
Speaker 1: have for them?
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is most of my messages that I
Speaker 2: get from young people, I don't there's never really anything
Speaker 2: about looks or about about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: It's always about you've like about.
Speaker 2: Conversations that I've had, especially during I'm a celebrity, about
Speaker 2: sexuality and young people that again by austral or anything
Speaker 2: in between. That it's that that just they're basically saying like,
Speaker 2: thank you for having this conversation on TV and then
Speaker 2: just sharing love.
Speaker 1: And isn't it funny that we always think about these
Speaker 1: things like you know, what questions people ask you? And
Speaker 1: young people are always so innocent. They're like, they don't
Speaker 1: ask these ridiculous, curly worldly questions, you know, they just
Speaker 1: ask you just really nice questions. They're coming from a
Speaker 1: place of love without being too jaded totally, you know,
Speaker 1: getting back to I'm a celebrity before I let you go,
Speaker 1: because I know you're very busy. Man, Can you tell
Speaker 1: me who is the most different in regard to what
Speaker 1: you expected? Because when we saw you turn up in
Speaker 1: the jungle, obviously you're seeing such familiar faces. Who did
Speaker 1: you go on the biggest journey with?
Speaker 2: Jess was really like my support in there and really
Speaker 2: my rock, and she was like a mum to me
Speaker 2: in there. So she she's sort of she's she's a
Speaker 2: special one. And I think Pauline as well, like just
Speaker 2: I've known her over the years and it was just
Speaker 2: when she stepped out of the car, it was me
Speaker 2: Paulinian jest to begin with, Like we jumped over the
Speaker 2: helicopter together. Yeah, so we had this special bond and
Speaker 2: we really stuck together the whole time. And also just
Speaker 2: like having the friendship with Abby, who's just who'se like
Speaker 2: similar age and we just we speak the same lingo.
Speaker 3: So that was just really refreshing as well.
Speaker 2: Ali that came in later like she I've known her
Speaker 2: for about.
Speaker 3: Ten years, Oh wow, because well did you gig with.
Speaker 2: Her brother like in l like years and years ago
Speaker 2: and I got to meet her and so I've seen
Speaker 2: her over the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all went on a bit of a journey,
Speaker 3: but I definitely I said this on my little kind
Speaker 3: of exit interview as well.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can slow see jes winning because
Speaker 2: I just think that she is the Be's name.
Speaker 1: She is the Bee's niece. You know, the format had
Speaker 1: to change because of COVID. You know, the public didn't
Speaker 1: get to vote. Do you think if the nomination process
Speaker 1: had been put in place and the celebrities had to choose,
Speaker 1: you know, three points here to save, three points here
Speaker 1: to evict, would that have worked? And who would you
Speaker 1: give three points too that's left in there to stay
Speaker 1: and who's three points to evict?
Speaker 3: I don't think it would have worked because we're all
Speaker 3: just that's the thing.
Speaker 2: We're all so yeah, and I don't I just think
Speaker 2: it would have been so hard, Like I can't imagine
Speaker 2: I definitely can't imagine any of us like evicting someone.
Speaker 3: But I could.
Speaker 2: I could probably see us like saying our favorites and.
Speaker 3: Then whoever got the least would would go.
Speaker 2: But like my three I think would probably be Jess
Speaker 2: pauling in Abby, probably because I think I was the
Speaker 2: closest with them to stay to evict.
Speaker 3: I have no idea, and I would not want to.
Speaker 1: Say don't you love it? When you get asked these questions,
Speaker 1: it's like what what what does it? Watch What Happens
Speaker 1: Live with Andy Cohen and and always ask these questions.
Speaker 1: I play the fifth, I'll just please the fifth. And
Speaker 1: the last thing I have to ask you is about
Speaker 1: your music. So many people are like, when are we
Speaker 1: going to get to get some more music? Is there
Speaker 1: any plans to get back into the studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in the studio and I've got my
Speaker 2: next on that I'm going to release, and as I've
Speaker 2: finished the video as well, so that just goes a
Speaker 2: few other projects happening.
Speaker 3: So time is everything, and yeah, things are going to
Speaker 3: happen too.
Speaker 1: I'm going to fling myself out of this interview like
Speaker 1: you were flung out of the jungle, and I just
Speaker 1: want to thank you so much. Were you shocked? But
Speaker 1: I should ask you that when I watched it, and
Speaker 1: a friend of mine we played it on a repeat.
Speaker 1: We watched it again and again and again, and every
Speaker 1: time we watched it we got a different we felt
Speaker 1: a different response, like the first time we were shocked,
Speaker 1: then we were laughing. What was your response to being
Speaker 1: flung out of the jungle like that.
Speaker 3: I thought it was great. I was like, what a
Speaker 3: way to go out. I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm kind of like swimming to a shore
Speaker 2: and I've got this huge smile.
Speaker 3: On my face. Even when I go out of the border.
Speaker 2: I was laughing because I was like, this is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch this back.
Speaker 1: Well, you brilliant, and thank you so much for being
Speaker 1: so generous and having this chat with me.
Speaker 3: Pleasure, Pleasure,