1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Last week we caught up with well with Simon Matthias 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: to speak a little bit more about the calls for 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: greater data sharing when it comes to some of the 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: issues and some of the accidents, the crashes that we 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: see on our roads. And joining me on the line 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: right now from the AANT Chief Executive Simon Matthias. Good 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: morning to you, Simon. 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: Hello Katie, good to have you on the show. 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Mate. Now tell me since we last spoke, there's been 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: some movement in this space, hasn't there? 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Yes, so has Katie. So as you will call AAMT, 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: along with other car clubs around the country, have been 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: calling on state and territory governments to release data around crashes, 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: the roads that occur that they're occurring on, and also 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: enforcement data. And since then or late last week in fact, 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: the federal government announced that they're funding or providing twenty 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: one million dollars in coming to create a National Road 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: Safety Data Hub, which will enable state and territory governments 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: to provide their data to it, so in that data 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: can be accessed by road safety experts, other governments, and 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: even the public, so that you know, we've got a 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: clear picture on where road funding is being directed. 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: This seems like a real common sense approach to me, Like, 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: I get that it's costing money, but you know, to me, 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: it seems like common sense. We want to make sure 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: that data is shared so that then hopefully we're able 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: to lower the road toll and lower those incidents of crashes. 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and it's really important for territories because 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: we've got the highest road toll in the country per capita. 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: It's three times higher than any other state or territory. 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: So you know, clearly we're not seeing any real movement 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: in the road toll and it's really hard for that reason, 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: it's really hard to argue against, you know, the implementational 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: establishment of this kind of measure. It's a common sense move, 35 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: as you've mentioned. And yeah, we're really pleased that the 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: federal government have seen the light and created this. Now 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: what we need is for the territory government to commit 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: to providing the data. 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: So is that I mean, is that going to be forthcoming? 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Do you think? 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 2: Well, we don't know. I mean, the last we've heard 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: from the from the territory government that they're not prepared 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: to provide the data, but that was before the announcement 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: of the hub. So the Queensland state government has committed 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: to providing the data. Other state governments are edging closer 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: to committing it. Committing to it. We just need the 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: territory government now to commit and do the right thing, 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: because I think there are some things that are above 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: politics out road safety is one of them. 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with you. I think be absurd 51 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: if we were one of the only jurisdictions not providing 52 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: that data when everybody else is. 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely, it's a common sense move and we hope 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: that we'll get an announcement from the Churchary government. 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: See yeah, Simon, how quickly is this sort of all 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: going to roll out or start to happen? Do you know? 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Pretty quickly? So the federal government have announced that it 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: will be operational by the first of July, so we're 59 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: only talking a couple of months, and yeah, hopefully we'll 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: see the data start to come in. There's a bit 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: of work to be done because what we're asking for 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: is that the data the standard eye. So at the 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: moment there's not an apples with apples comparison on road 64 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: safety data between the states. So some states collect data 65 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: on some things, other states to collect data on other things, 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: and what we want is for everything to be standing. 67 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: So we've got a bigger data set so that we 68 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: and that data can be cross correlated so that you know, 69 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: we know we've got a really clear picture on road 70 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: safety issues and a clear picture why the national road 71 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: toll is increasing rather than going backwards and not forgetting 72 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: that all state and territory government signed up to the 73 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: National Road Safety Strategy which has a goal of harving 74 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: the road toll by twenty thirty and so it needs 75 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: to decrease, but in actual fact it's going the other way. 76 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: So something clearly needed to change. 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do think to yourself now that the 78 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: federal government's sort of committed to this, and you know 79 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: they've got they've got funding that's going to be provided 80 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: to it as well, you would have to think that 81 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory is going to come to the table, 82 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: like how could we not if we've got the highest 83 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: highest rate of road toll on our roads, highest rate 84 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: of debts on our roads per capita. 85 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's right. I mean we've got some unique 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: driving conditions up here. I mean, seventy percent of our 87 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: roads are unsealed and you know, there's lots of challenges 88 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: that we face with road safety. But I think the 89 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: thing that we're kind of hoping for is that the 90 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: federal government that's where the money comes from for road funding, 91 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: they provide the states with ten billion dollars a year, 92 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: and so we are hoping that that funding is conditional 93 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: upon the states and territory is coming to the party 94 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: in terms of providing the data. So if you don't 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: provide the data, you don't get the funding, and I 96 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: think that's that's a pretty big stick that they've gotten. 97 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely well, Simon Mesias, I really appreciate your time this morning, 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: Chief Executive of the AA in t Thanks so much 99 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: for having a chat with us, and if there's any 100 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: progress let us know. 101 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, Well, thank you