1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Kate Torba and coming up on today's show, Molly May 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: stars in Vogue as her ex Tommy Fury faces fresh 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: cheating allegations. Kati Milan and Ashton Wood's friendship bust up, 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: and Anna Macavoy's interestingly timed baby news. But first, former 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: love islander Taylor Broad has sparked a bait after revealing 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: she won't allow her daughter to help decorate their family 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: Christmas tree. Taylor shared a video to TikTok discussing her 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: plans and added the caption, only real Christmas girlies will 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: understand this. Let's have a listen to what she said. 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: There's moms out there that film with their children the 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: Christmas tree setup, and I really admire them because there's 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: no fucking way my child's touching my Christmas tree. She's 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: asleep and I've set it up exactly how I want it, 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: and she will not. She will not be helping until 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: she's at the age where she knows the placement. Because 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: until they know, don't touch my Christmas tree. 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: This video has wrapped up over seven hundred thousand views 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: and has gained over one five hundred comments. It has 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: clearly hit a nerve with some people. Yeah. A large 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: portion of the commenters argued that Christmas is about spending 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: time with family and making memories. Some even went as 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: far as labeling Taylor a joy stealer. What do you think? Well, 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: I can see where Taylor's coming from, because everybody loves 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: a beautiful, aesthetic tree. However, I tend to agree with 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: the people who said that part of the joy of 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: Christmas is actually spending time with your family and doing 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: those types of Christmas activities. I don't understand why she 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: doesn't just redecorate the tree like most parents do when 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: their kids go to bed. Yeah, or do what Monica 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: and friends did and let all their friends decorate it 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: and then turn it around and have it perfect. On 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: the other side, it's gonna be an interesting one because 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: I like my tree decorated a specific way. I mean, 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: I've been known to have you and SOF and Mum 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: over and then actually redecorated it after. I'm not happy 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: with some of the placement of the ballbles like, I'll 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: decorate my tree quite a few times to get it perfect. 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: But then again, like when we were a family growing up, 41 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: we didn't have an aesthetically pleasing tree. We had rainbow 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: decorations and really sentimental ones. And that's what I remember 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: and love, like I enjoy putting mum and Dad's tree up. Now, well, 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: I've seen that big debate on TikTok that people were 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: saying that a lot of their husbands are colorful light people, 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: whereas they're the aesthetic gold. I mean, we grew up 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: as a colorful light family, but I have moved on 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: to gold now. I actually liked the idea of having 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: multiple trees. I saw this as a tip in this 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: mum's Facebook group that I'm in, and they were saying, 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: get a tree for your kids and have it in 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: their room, and they can decorate that tree however they like, 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: and then you can have your nice, aesthetically pleasing tree. 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, have a rainbow tree, have 55 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: a gold tree, have different trees. Remember that year when 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: we were all living together, I think it was the 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: last year, our last Christmas altogether, we actually bought two 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: real Christmas trees. Yeah, one had gold and one had rainbow. 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: It was so good, except when we had to remove 60 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: and get rid of the trees. That's when it seemed 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: like not a great idea. Look, I actually think that 62 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: people need to do away with the oh soo aesthetic tree. Like, 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, the trees look like there's no fun. They 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: look a bit boring. I know everybody seems to have them. 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: And all the ball balls are white. I think they 66 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: are a bit two thousand and twenty, Like, let's put 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: some color into our trees again. I'm doing red and 68 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: gold this year. I love a traditional looking Christmas tree, 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: but I want some of my antique decorations on it. 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: I do like that the beige Christmas aesthetic is now 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: being replaced by the burgundy Christmas aesthetic this year, so 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people are now putting the burgundy little 73 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: ribbons on their tree. I am tempted to try out 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: the ribbons, but I don't know where to get them 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: from because I want that velvety one, but they're really expensive. 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: I've seen them on Timu, but apparently everyone's getting in 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: their credit cards hacked from Timu. Well, I think just 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: bring back tinsel. No, I want to see some beautiful 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: gold tinsel in some Christmas trees. You can put it 80 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: on your Christmas tree, but I yeah, Tinsel, as George 81 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Costanz's dad said, I find it distracting, It's not good 82 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: and it's hard to hang properly. I did love one 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: of the comments on Taylor's TikTok because a lot of 84 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: people were seeing the funny side of it, because I 85 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: do think Taylor was taking the piss in general. And 86 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: someone wrote my thirty year old fiance still isn't old 87 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: enough to set up the Christmas tree, which received over 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: three thousand likes. I don't have the issue with Dale 89 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: trying to help me with the Christmas tree. He hates 90 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: putting it up, and I know your partner's not fond 91 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: of it. Oh Rees has no interest. I keep telling 92 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: him that it needs to go up, and unfortunately for him, 93 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: I've decided that we need to rearrange the furniture in 94 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: our lounge room because I've recently got a playpen for 95 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: Jack and it's just not gonna work where the Christmas 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: tree used to be. So it's gonna be quite a 97 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: large job. Gosh, so you need him to help you, really? 98 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean I could come around and help move some furniture. Yeah, Well, 99 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: he's actually working late on Tuesday night. If you want 100 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: to come over, I was back in the room. I've 101 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: seen that as well on TikTok, where some people's partners 102 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: will go out and they'll return and the girlfriend or 103 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: wife has just completely christmified the house. 104 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys know everything about our lives. 105 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 4: Really fucking scary. 106 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 3: I'm like, why have I said all that stuff? 107 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Katia Milan and Ashton would have shocked followers by closing 108 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: down their newly launched Marcher business Amy what is going on? Well, 109 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: there is so much confusion right now about the cause 110 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: of this business closure, but there are a lot of 111 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: clues pointing towards a friendship breakdown between the pair, and 112 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: I think it's important we go through the timeline of 113 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: events to try and get to the bottom of what 114 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: exactly has gone down. So on the fifteenth of May, 115 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Katia and Ashton announced they were finishing up their podcast 116 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: Common Chaos to begin a I quote new project. 117 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: Now. 118 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: We did speak about this in length back in May, 119 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: and also about how Katier and Ashton had spoken about 120 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: how it's hard to be an influencer and how the 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: market is so saturated and they were looking to do 122 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: something different, which was this march of business, and it 123 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: was a big move for them because their podcast had 124 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot of potential. I mean, we've spoken in the 125 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: past about how there are so many influencer podcasts in 126 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: the market now, but theirs really was a standout because 127 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: when they launched, it shot straight to number one on 128 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: the charts and it really legitimized their following. Yeah, you 129 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: can tell that people were genuinely interested in what they 130 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: had to say, and it started to turn into a 131 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: podcast where they would reveal a lot about their private lives. 132 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: And that was also another reason behind them shutting it down, 133 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: that they no longer wanted to share so many details 134 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: about themselves. It did coincide with Cartia also breaking up 135 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: with that Chelsea footballer. Yes, yeah, because both of the 136 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: girls are currently living in London and they chose to 137 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: announce the closure of their podcast on the Common Chaos 138 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Instagram account. Let's have a listen to what they said. 139 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: We just wanted to jump on and say we love 140 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: you guys. 141 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, we don't even know how to put it 142 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 5: into words, because we haven't even processed the fact that 143 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: we have ended the podcast. 144 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: Had our one hundredth episode that we had to record, 145 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: and we were like, we should probably you know, announce 146 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: this and do this now. And we obviously have our 147 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: new baby launching very soon, which you've seen so the 148 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: time and kind of crazily coincide, but we wanted to 149 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: jump on and say that you feel like we're abandoning you. 150 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: Cartier and Ashton also went on to explain that the 151 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: podcast would continue for the next few months as they 152 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: played archival episodes. I'm guessing they had some sponsorship requirements 153 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: to fulfill. I mean, I don't know who would be 154 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: listening to these archival old episodes th reruns of the 155 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: world episodes. Now, if we go back to the timeline, 156 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: things appeared rosy between Carti and Ashton on the twenty 157 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: fifth of June because they shared a TikTok telling followers 158 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: they were heading out to dinner to celebrate ten years 159 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: of friendship. So it all seemed okay now. On the 160 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: twenty ninth of September, Cartier shared a TikTok whilst she 161 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: was in Paris, and the video showed her holding up 162 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: one of those oversized mocked up newspapers, and the cover 163 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: revealed the news that they had just launched their new 164 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: matcher company named Highline. Her post read Highline Matcher launch 165 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: in Australia October one, extremely limited stock, so be ready now. 166 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Ashton also shared a real to Instagram walking around with 167 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: the same newspaper whilst whole a matcher. Her caption read 168 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: Highline is finally yours after building this brand from scratch 169 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: and putting in so much love and passion to bring 170 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: you the best match it that we fell in love 171 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: with over a year ago. I have to pinch myself 172 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: for this to feel real love you guys, and I'm 173 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: crying at the support already. So things seemed pretty normal, 174 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: and then on the second of October, their last official 175 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: episode of the podcast aired, and in the opener, Cartier 176 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: and Ashton again hinted at the launch of their new 177 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: much of business. Here's what they said. 178 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: We have some really exciting news for you guys. 179 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: We are working on our new baby, which we are 180 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: so excited for you guys to find out about. 181 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: They're like the new baby, what do you guys fucking 182 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: cooking up? Or We've got a new brand coming out 183 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: soon which we've been working really hard on and. 184 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: It's really exciting and I'm sure you've already probably seen 185 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: the teasers. 186 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Now less than three weeks after, there were reports that 187 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: Ashton unfollowed Katier on Instagram. Now, Cartier was still following 188 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: Ashton at this point, and followers all so began to 189 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: notice that the pair were no longer commenting on each 190 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: other's posts like they normally would. Now, if we wade 191 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: into the weeds, there are rumors that the friendship may 192 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: have come to an end due to Ashton's friendship with 193 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Cartier's ex Josh Houston. So Ashton, as well as Cartier's 194 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: other friend, Live Grivers, was spotted at the beach with Josh, 195 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: and Josh also posted a photo of Ashton to his 196 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Instagram photo dump. I mean, if that's not a fuck 197 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: you like going out with your friend's X and then 198 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: him sharing photos of it. Yeah, and especially because their 199 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: other friend Live, who is a big influencer in the UK, 200 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: she was also in attendance. A lot of people thought, well, wow, 201 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: there really seems to be this friendship divide and a 202 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: lot of their friends seemed to be siding with Ashton. Now, 203 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: if I was Katier, I would not be happy with this. 204 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: She ended up posting a TikTok to I think she 205 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: was trying to drop clues without saying much, so she 206 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: shared a video saying that she was in her villain 207 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: era now. This prompted a lot of her followers to 208 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: ask if she was okay in the comments, and they 209 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: meant that they had seen the photos of Josh and 210 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Ashton together with Live Now. This is where influencer Live 211 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Grivas officially entered the chat. So she wrote under Cartier's video, 212 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: if only you all knew the truth? What a burn? 213 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Because this has led to a lot of speculation that 214 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: maybe the problem is actually CARTI yeah, we when there's 215 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: multiple friends siding with one person. Well, two days before 216 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: this post, Katia had also shared a very cryptic TikTok 217 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: entitled no revenge because our frequencies were aligned and brought 218 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: up together to be mirrors of each other's abandonment and 219 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: attachment issues for us spiritual growth, revealing to us that 220 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: only self love can feel that void, not people and okay, 221 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: can you translate that into normal folks speak? Non woo woo. 222 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: I think it means that they're so similar that if 223 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: she was to seek revenge on Ashton, that she would 224 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: too cop revenge is that is that right, or it's 225 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: saying that they're so that they're so similar that of 226 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: course they were going to have issues with each other. 227 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure, but they lost me at Spiritual 228 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: growth out at that point. Now it seems like the 229 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: final straw may have been Ashton's launch event for her 230 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Girl Capsule wardrobe collaboration with UK Influence at Grace Beverly's 231 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: clothing line Tala. So late last week, Tyler through an 232 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: event to celebrate the launch, and Cartier was nowhere to 233 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: be seen. However, a big group of Katia and Ashton's 234 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: shared friends were all in attendance, and that night some 235 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: super sleuves found that Krtia had shared a post on 236 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: her private Instagram account saying she was crying and asked 237 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: why a girl's so fucking mean. That would be so 238 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: hard for Katia watching that all play out online, because 239 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: not only does she know that she wasn't invited to 240 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: Ashton's event, but she also knows that all her friends 241 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: have literally chosen Ashton's side and attended exactly And this 242 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: is the point where it seems like Krtia has decided 243 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: to pull the pin on the business. So on Saturday, 244 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: all of Highline Match's Instagram posts were removed and two 245 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: static posts were shared announcing the closure. The post read, 246 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: we are writing with both gratitude and a lot of 247 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: sadness to let you know that Highline Matcher will be 248 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: closing its doors. We're deeply appreciative of your support and 249 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: enthusiasm for our Matcher brand, and it's been a joy 250 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: to serve this community of Matcher lovers. With love, Katia 251 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: and Ashton. Now, the next post read as a small thanks, 252 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: we're offering a ten percent discount on all remaining items. 253 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: If you'd like to stock up or try high Line 254 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: before we close, please use code Farewell ten Maybe it 255 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: should have been Friendship Breakdown ten as the code. This 256 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: promotion will be available for forty eight hours. We're grateful 257 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: for every one of you who has made this journey possible, 258 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: and we hope you enjoy this token of our appreciation. Geez, 259 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: if you're shutting down the business and need to get 260 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: rid of stock, I would have thought you'd offer more 261 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: than ten percent. Well, the bags of match are around 262 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: sixty dollars a pop as well, but it made me think. 263 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: I know. 264 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: The official release had both Katia and Ashton's name on it. 265 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: But I tend to think that Ashton has been blindsided 266 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: because she still has up the high line link, and 267 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: also she tagged them in her bio and as part 268 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: of her gifting for her Tala collaboration, there were bags 269 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: of Matcher being put in these gift boxes. Going to 270 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: get rid of the shit. I think Cartier could just 271 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: go and do whatever she wants with the business. Surely 272 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: they've signed some sort of agreement that they both have 273 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: to sign off on important stuff like the closure of it. 274 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: It's very reminiscent though, of ash Binds his recent friendship 275 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: breakdown with her podcast host. It seems like everyone this 276 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: is maybe this is a time of year where these 277 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: friendships are breaking up. This is sign not to do 278 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: podcasts with your closest friends. That's right, we're siblings, Yeah, 279 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: who were on the family. We're already four million times. 280 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: Okay. 281 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned at the start of this segment that Ashton 282 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: and Carti had spoken about how hard it is to 283 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: be an influencer. At the moment, I wonder what they're 284 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: going to do now, because they've obviously invested a lot 285 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: of money into this. Does this mean that Ashton's going 286 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: to have to go out and Katy is going to 287 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: go out and get a real job. Nah, they don't 288 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: need a real job because this has sparked interest back 289 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: in them. This is great for their personal brands. Maybe 290 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: this is a stunt after all. I don't think it's 291 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: a PR stunt. I think it's just a friendship buster. 292 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: Do you think that Katia will move back to Australia Now? 293 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 6: I don't know. 294 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: I mean possibly, I know that girls are living together 295 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: when they first moved over, but they haven't been living 296 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: together for a while. But if she doesn't have that 297 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: friendship group to lean on, it might mean she will 298 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: come home. Now, I just want to know which one 299 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: of them will spill the mucha. Will it be Katia 300 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: or Ashton? Who do you think? I think they both will, 301 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: But it will start off by Katier, like Katia will 302 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: come out and say something. She'll probably play the victim 303 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: because it almost seems like her friends are ganging up 304 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: on her, and then maybe the real tea will come 305 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: out later. See. I actually think Ashton will come out 306 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: and say something because Katia's personal brand is very much 307 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: that urn the other cheek. I'm very spiritual. I wouldn't 308 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: want to ruin my spiritual peace by bitching. But Ashton's 309 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: not going to want to say anything when she's got 310 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: this huge collaboration with this brand in the UK, like 311 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: it's not a good look. Well, I think it is 312 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: a good look because it means you irrelevant and people 313 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: seem to care about your friendship. But I do think 314 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: I think if Ashton says something, that's just going to 315 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: open the floodcates. Yeah out here. 316 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: I always keep poteroids in my bag. 317 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: This one is disgusting. 318 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 5: If you look closely, you can see as chewing gum 319 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 5: stuck to it. But I can't get rid of it 320 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 5: because it's a photograph of my daughter and it's not 321 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 5: even a good photograph. It's the only one to have 322 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: in my bag and I need to carry on all times. 323 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 5: I can pretend to be all cool and put together 324 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 5: with this bag, but this actually is what sums me 325 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: up right here. Not just one piece of chewing gum, 326 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 5: two pieces of chewing gum. 327 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Molly May has revealed it she was blindsided by Tommy 328 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: Fury in her first interview since the couple's shock breakup. 329 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Molly's revelations came just days after fresh cheating allegations were 330 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: leveled at her former fiance. Now, this wasn't just a 331 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: regular interview. This was a spread in British Vogue with 332 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: a very iconic photo shoot. Molly looked stunning, So a 333 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: bit better than that exclusive that Tommy gave to The 334 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Daily Mail just before the release of his memoir. It 335 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: seems a bit classier, just to tad. 336 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 6: Now. 337 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Molly has spoken about the breakup briefly on her YouTube channel, 338 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: but this is the first time she's been interviewed about it. 339 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: I love that she chose Vogue to dish the dirt. Now, 340 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: if you can believe it, it's been three months since 341 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: the breakup. That is absolutely crazy. Now, I think we 342 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: need to get into some of the key takeaways from 343 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: this interview. So firstly, Mollie teas that Tommy may reveal 344 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: more one day about what happened. She said, yeah, I 345 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: mean it was a bit of a shock the circumstances. 346 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want what happened to happen. No one will 347 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: ever really know what went down but Tommy and I 348 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: and that's how we'd like to keep it for Bambi's sake. 349 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: I do think that when he's ready, like maybe more 350 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: will be said, but I think that's for him to 351 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: do on his terms. It's not like it's gossip. It's 352 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: real life and it's you know, it's a real deep situation. 353 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: It's really sad. Now Tommy has come out and denied 354 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: that he cheated on Molly, and the fact that she 355 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: keeps saying only Tommy and I know about it, it 356 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: seems like she is trying to back up his claims 357 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: that no cheating was involved. But it's just so confusing 358 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: because what else would it be. Well, it's definitely still 359 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: putting all of the onus on him the reason for 360 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: the breakup as well. I like how Molly mentioned in 361 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: the interview that people will compare hearing her breakup to 362 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Diana and Charles. 363 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 6: Oh. 364 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's obviously been reading all the commentary and keeping 365 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: a keen eye on it all. I think the most 366 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: exciting thing for me to come out of this interview 367 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: is Molly has confirmed she'll be starring in a documentary 368 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: about her life on Prime. So this is going to 369 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: be a three hour special and they began filming just 370 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: as Tommy and Molly split up and as she launched 371 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: her new brand. Maybe well, the awkward thing is this 372 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: doco was actually meant to follow the lead up to 373 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Tommy and Molly's wedding, and Molly did say in the 374 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: interview that she had set a date in September twenty 375 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: twenty five to marry Tommy and she was counting down 376 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: the days. But this film crew has got more than 377 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: they ever imagined. Molly spoke about how her friends took 378 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: her down to the Soho Farmhouse and that she was 379 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: trying to get drunk and she had a drink of 380 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: rose but just couldn't drink anymore because she's not a 381 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: drinker at all. No, and she said she hates the 382 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: feeling of being drunk, and she got I think halfway 383 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: through this glass of rose and was like, Nah, that's 384 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: not for me. I'm hoping the film crew was at 385 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: Soho Farmhouse at the time. It's come out as well 386 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: that this documentary is being produced by the same team 387 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: behind the Netflix series that did At Home with the Furies. 388 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: Interesting that they've sold it to Prime rather than Netflix. 389 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: I'm guessing there was a massive bidding war for this doco. 390 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm also guessing that the film crew saw how good 391 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: Tommy and Molly were on camera and We're like, we 392 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: need to do something with them, definitely, And there's still 393 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: so much drama surrounding this couple that there's going to 394 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: be added interest in this documentary when it comes out. 395 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: Because just three days prior to Molly's interview with British Vogue, 396 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: an adult content creator called Katie Robinson claimed that she 397 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: was part of the reason Molly and Tommy broke up. 398 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: And I have seen this clip everywhere like it's going 399 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: off on TikTok, and at first I was like, wait 400 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: a second, who is this girl? Is this even true? 401 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: It was really confusing a lot of people have sent 402 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: us this clip, and I actually tried to find the podcast, 403 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: but I think it might just be a TikTok show 404 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: because I could not find it on Apple Podcasts had 405 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: to remove it. Yeah, well I couldn't you find the 406 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: whole show in general, not just this episode. And when 407 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: I first watched it, I was like, nah, this has 408 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: got to be fake. Yeah, and the comments were like nah, 409 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: like no one is believing it. 410 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 411 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: So the show is called the Reality check Show Podcast. 412 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: Let's throw to a clip of what she said, So, 413 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: how how did you have Tommy Shorey? 414 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: So it was in Dubai and was a club in 415 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: called Drift Nightclub, and he'd like three girls at the time, 416 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: bearing in mind. 417 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, hold on time, I need a time for 418 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: there was a thing in back in May this year. 419 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: But Tommy was in Dubai for work. So he was 420 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: still dating Chris Brown. 421 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, still dating and three birds plus. 422 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: Me wait wait wait so he cheated on Molly me 423 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: with you? 424 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 425 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: So wait, are you the reason why they broke up? 426 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: Part of the reason? 427 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, show. 428 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 4: What Yeah, it's free crazy, but we and then we'm 429 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: off in the g wagon. 430 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: It always going duh, like. 431 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: Oh my god, oh you need to send us that now. 432 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: Unlike the other cheating allegations that were leveled at Tommy Fury, 433 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: no one is buying these. And when I saw the video, 434 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: I was like, holy fuck, what is this this This 435 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: can't be true. And everyone was mirroring my thoughts in 436 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: the comment saying this is bullshit. But she was so 437 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: adamant about it. Like the way she was telling it, 438 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: you were like, wait a second, why I don't know 439 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: who this woman is. There must be more to this story. Yeah, well, 440 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: she said that she has receipts, so she spoke about 441 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: how she's got videos. She didn't film Tommy's face apparently, 442 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: but she filmed in like this on the plane with 443 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: him and in the hotel room, so it sounded legit. 444 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: She she's then gone on TikTok and shared this content 445 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: and it honestly looks like it's been photoshopped or AI 446 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: generated like and not by someone that's good at it, 447 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: because like the photo of Tommy, it's it's distorted, like 448 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like a normal person, and it makes 449 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: me wonder, like, is she trolling us? Well, it's really 450 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: weird because normally if someone did this and it was legit, 451 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: their account would blow up. They'd have so many TikTok followers, 452 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: the comments would be crazy, the reshares, but she keeps 453 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: having to create new accounts and upload it into new 454 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: accounts because she's just not getting the traction or is 455 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: she being banned? No, no, no, Like it's literally that 456 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: she's just trying to create shock value because no one 457 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: is buying into it. The only thing that's happening is 458 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: she is being trolled mercilessly. And it is difficult to 459 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: talk about because I don't want to put down her appearance. 460 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: But a lot of people are saying that they don't 461 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: believe it because of the way that she looks, because 462 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: but I don't even think that that's the standout thing 463 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: of like oh, because you often see men will have 464 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: these glamorous partners and then it comes out that they've 465 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: cheated with somebody who you know, traditionally isn't the most 466 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: attractive person. There's a lot of people comparing the way 467 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: this girl and Molly may look, and they look very 468 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: different to each other, and there is a lot of 469 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: bullying that's going on in the comments. And normally I 470 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: would be very against this, but I think it's because 471 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: this girl has come out and been so vulgar about it, 472 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: so she isn't saying, oh, I have regret about it. 473 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: It's like she had this real chip on her shoulder 474 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: when she spoke about it, and she seemed really smart 475 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: bullshit as well. Oh, she's literally creating photoshopped images of 476 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: her and Tommy that look fake as fuck, And that's 477 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: why people are saying, what the fuck are you doing? 478 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: Like this is a family, Like these people are real people, 479 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: and you're coming out for clout saying, like lying that 480 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: you've had an affair with Tommy fury. Yeah, it's actually 481 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: backfired on this girl because remember when Molly and Tommy 482 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: first broke up and that story spread like wildfire that 483 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Tommy had impregnated that boxing manager's daughter and it wasn't 484 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: true and the family were all trying to shut it down. 485 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: But this girl is literally trying to get clout from 486 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: creating this fabricated story. And it's not the first time 487 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: she has done stuff like this for attention, so she 488 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: actually got a bit of a following. And she also 489 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: got her dad fired from his job because she was 490 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: sharing videos of herself stripping while he was watching the 491 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: TV and she was throwing her undies at his head 492 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: and he used to work at a school as a 493 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: head teacher, so he got fired. And then there are 494 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: other reports of her filming herself masturbating while her grandfather slept. 495 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: That's revolting. I'm just glad that no one seems to 496 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: be buying into her crap, but it is alarming that 497 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: these sort of rumors and allegations can get so much 498 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: attention on social media. 499 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 500 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Well, Tommy is yet to comment on the allegations, which 501 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: I think is a good thing because most people can 502 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: see that they're absolutely bullshit, and in his memoir that 503 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: he released back in October, he denied cheating was involved 504 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: in the relationship breakdown, so he wrote, the allegations around 505 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: me cheating have been created by the press in line 506 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: with her own agenda and bear no resemblance to the 507 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: reality of my situation. He also said in an interview 508 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: that the truth will come out in time, and when 509 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: it does, I think a lot of people might regret 510 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: their actions and unkind words. So it is interesting that 511 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: the press have not picked up on these fresh allegations 512 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: at all. Well, I think that just cements how untrue 513 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: they are. And I wonder if Tommy if Fury will 514 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: actually pursue legal action against this woman, because she has 515 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: made some wild claims that are pretty easy to disprove. 516 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: In saying that, do you think that people may have 517 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: believed her if she looked a different way. I think 518 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: people might have believed her if she didn't have a 519 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: history of being a pathological liar and she hadn't uploaded 520 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: bizarre photoshopped pictures. Yeah, but I think people that didn't 521 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: even know that and have just seen her talking on 522 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: the podcast about or Tommy I Fury and I did 523 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: this and that like everyone was just focused on Like 524 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: people were calling her buzz light Year and jay Leno 525 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: as I've said, Pragmi, as I've said. I mean, when 526 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: I first saw her, I wasn't so taken aback by 527 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: her looks. She looks like a normal girl. I was like, Oh, 528 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: that's not really who I would think that he would 529 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: be when you're drunk in a nightclub. What I mean, like, 530 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: often it's they don't go for the most glamorous girls 531 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: to cheat with, Like if you're someone like Tommy Fury, 532 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: you're going for somebody who one might not know who 533 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: you are, doesn't know your relationship status, et cetera, et cetera. 534 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't think we can judge the appearance of 535 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: the person that he's cheated. But what I'm saying is 536 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: people have bought into stories of Tommy cheating with these 537 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: other women when there's actually no truth to them or 538 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: no evidence, and have gone, oh, it must have happened. 539 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: But with this girl saying, oh, I've got this receipt 540 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: in this receipt and this is what happened, people are like, no, 541 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: I didn't. Just by looking at her. 542 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: We're doing our announcement video shoot with Jack. I think 543 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 6: it's really nice tonight. It's twenty degrees looks quiet, so 544 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 6: noncese hope I have my jacket un hiding the bump. 545 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Former Love Islander turned influencer and podcaster Anna McAvoy has 546 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: announced she and her husband Michael Staples are expecting a 547 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: baby now Amy. This announcement didn't disappoint no, because it 548 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: was produced by a Melbourne based videographer called Hayjak, who 549 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: normally specializes in wedding videos, and the video began with 550 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: shots of Anna and Michael as children, and then it 551 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: led up to this clip of Michael singing a line 552 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: of the song Ocean Eyes whilst playing a guitar. So 553 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: they were really pulling on all the emotional strings, weren't they. 554 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: Did you feel emotional watching it? I mean I'm not 555 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: as invested in this couple, so I personally didn't. But 556 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people online saying that they 557 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: cried actually watching this video, so it hit some people hard. 558 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: And then the professional version of this song took over 559 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: on the video and it went to a montage of 560 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: videos of Anna and Michael at their first scan, as 561 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: well as whimsical vision of them walking along the beach 562 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: during Golden Hour. Of course, they were shots of Anna's 563 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: cute bump. I did see her beautiful ring flashed a 564 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: few times. Look stunning. And then the video ended with 565 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: the caption baby Staples coming twenty twenty five. So they 566 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: didn't actually say which month. No, they haven't said yet. 567 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: I would love to know how pregnant she is because 568 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: the time of this all is very interesting because her 569 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: podcast co host Matt Sakowski, of course, gets married to 570 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro in just a week. So I'm wondering if 571 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: she thought, shit, i better get it out there because 572 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: everyone's going to be looking at what I'm wearing at 573 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: the wedding. People might notice that I've got a bump. Well, 574 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of the time women get blamed unfairly 575 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: if they go to someone's wedding, like a high profile wedding. 576 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: She might get accused of taking the shine away from 577 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: Tammy if she appears pregnant at the wedding. A lot 578 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: of people were saying that Tammy Hembro stole attention from 579 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: her wedding, so I probably wouldn't blame her if she 580 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: did do that. Well, there was another TikTok that Anna 581 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: shared and it was showing the behind the scenes of 582 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: this video shoot. It was quite funny because the video 583 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: showed her and Michael walking down to the beach and 584 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: she had this puffer jacket on and she's like, I'm 585 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: just trying to hide the bump. I just don't want 586 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: anyone to see me, and I hope no one spots 587 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: us doing this video. And it just made me laugh 588 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: because with influences, while there are so many people that 589 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: I think she's got over three hundred thousand followers, the 590 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: common who's probably walking on the beach would not know 591 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: who she was or not give a shit in saying that, though, 592 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: I think because she is adjacent to Tammy Hembro at 593 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: the moment, that it might have caused interest. I mean, 594 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: not many people would have thought that super Sluice would 595 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: film Tammy and Matt Sakowski at that hotel room a 596 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: year ago, so maybe she thought, shit, i'd hate it 597 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: to get out of it that way. What do you 598 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: think of the video? Announce it? Because we're seeing more 599 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: of this trend of these movie trailer style videos. I mean, 600 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: m Davies did a pretty similar one recently. Look a 601 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: plus for effort I think, I mean, they probably had 602 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: to pay this guy quite a bit of money. We 603 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: did speak about it recently when Matt Paul did a 604 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: very organic announcement and we compared that to when Tammy 605 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: announced her pregnancy with Matt Paul back a couple of 606 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: years ago, and the difference because she did a very 607 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: high quality video too. I just can't wait to see 608 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: the average person emulating this kind of announcement like Normy's 609 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: doing it, because once it's an influencer trend, it starts 610 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: to trickle down into normal baby announcements, and I don't 611 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: know if it's gonna translate very well, like your friend 612 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: pops up and they've done a movie trailer announcing the baby. 613 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 6: Well. 614 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: Just last week, Steph Claire Smith shared that she was 615 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: pregnant with baby number two, and she ended up just 616 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: sharing a couple of black and white photos, but she 617 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: has been drip feeding content since then, so she did 618 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: a whole podcast episode dedicated to her pregnancy, and she 619 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: also shared a really sweet video of her telling Harvey, 620 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: her three year old son, the news. But like it 621 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: was very touching, but all like notice was the fact 622 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: that her son's face was squiggled out with a white squiggle. Yeah, 623 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: because I I hadn't seen it until today when you 624 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: showed me, Kate, because we spoke a few weeks back 625 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: about how Steph was trying to conceal her son's Harvey's identity. 626 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Now he's a little bit older, and she had pixelated 627 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: him in a recent video and we were speaking about 628 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: whether she was going to continue to do this because 629 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: she copped a lot of heat. But I don't know. 630 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: I almost think the pixel was better than the squiggle, 631 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: which just looked bizarre. I just think if you've made 632 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: a choice that you don't want to share about him, 633 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: then why is it in all the content like it's 634 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't really make much sense. Well, I think that's 635 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: all we've got time for today. Thank you so much 636 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of Outspoken, and if you 637 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: do like the podcast, please leave us a five star review, 638 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: and don't forget to share where you're listening from. I 639 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: love those stories popping up on Instagram now. 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