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Speaker 1: Well, we know we've got some incredible masters swimmers over

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Speaker 1: in Singapore at the moment. They are competing in the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five World Aquatics Masters Championships and joining us

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Speaker 1: live on the line. I believe he's over there in Singapore.

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Speaker 1: Masters Swimming NTY Chair Neil Ludvigson, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Neil, good morning. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, Neil. How are our incredible masters swimmer's

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Speaker 1: going over there?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's done extremely well. I mean we've got how

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Speaker 2: many eight nurs seven gold medals? Oh wow, I'm fifteen

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Speaker 2: and seventeen medals in total, and that's not bad when

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Speaker 2: you think New South Wales has got twenty gold medals

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Speaker 2: and that's and we're only Darwin and we're one club. Yes,

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Speaker 2: go about twenty club, twenty or thirty clubs and so

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Speaker 2: you know, you've got to understand that's impressive performance.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, Neil. That sounds wonderful. You know when you

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Speaker 1: look at our population size and and you know, you

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Speaker 1: look at what the Northern Territory's doing there at the

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Speaker 1: Masters World Championships, that is absolutely incredible. Tell me about

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Speaker 1: some of the standout performers. I mean ann walker in

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Speaker 1: the eighty five to eighty nine year age group. She's

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Speaker 1: had a fantastic run, hasn't she.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well she had. She won, she's won sort of

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Speaker 2: four individual gold and then she was involved in two

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Speaker 2: relay golds yesterday yep, and last night she was an

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Speaker 2: very exhausted lady. I don't think I can go on, Neil.

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Speaker 2: I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm an old.

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Speaker 1: Well let's point out as well, did she win gold

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Speaker 1: in the eight hundred freestyle?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, she and she wons in the fifty fly,

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Speaker 2: which is a.

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Speaker 1: It's a grueling, rice grueling.

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Speaker 2: Grueling, grueling for anyone, let a person in there who's yeah,

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Speaker 2: well yeah, but she's a very fit woman. Really what that.

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Speaker 1: Is absolutely incredible? Like I love that she is competing

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Speaker 1: at the World Masters Championships, you know, in the age

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Speaker 1: group of eighty five to eighty nine years and years old,

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Speaker 1: and she's not alone. Maggie Roberts as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Maggie Roberts and Voull hissed over. Yeah, got val

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Speaker 2: got I think three silvers and a bronze and that

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Speaker 2: was mainly a backstroker and she I think it's actually

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Speaker 2: got silver medals in all three of the backstroke events

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Speaker 2: and and got better as the week went on. What

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Speaker 2: a legend. I think. I think it's just nerves as well,

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Speaker 2: you know, like you start with, I mean, and had

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Speaker 2: been too large swimming events before, but Val had never

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Speaker 2: been to any and or Maggie of course has got

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Speaker 2: a gold medal once before, got a gold medal in

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Speaker 2: the World Masters in Japan about two years ago. But yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: They all did very well well then, and Roberts won.

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Speaker 1: He got a bronze in the four hundred I am

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Speaker 1: is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Again a killer he was in the eighties to

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Speaker 2: eighty five. He and he got a really was really

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Speaker 2: really hard and he yeah, he's physical, you know, Like

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Speaker 2: I mean four hundred im is hard. I mean you've

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Speaker 2: got to do one hundred butterfly, then you do one

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Speaker 2: hundred of each stroke and it's and it's technically difficult

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Speaker 2: as well, because each each turns different and you've got

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Speaker 2: to do different like it's quite and you've got.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be fish, but you've got to be

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Speaker 1: strong as well, right to be able to do all

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Speaker 1: of the strokes and over that distance.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I mean doing all. I mean, we try

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Speaker 2: it masters swimming. We try and do all of the strokes.

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Speaker 2: You're like, because it's much better for you as a

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Speaker 2: health benefit. I mean to swim to do that and

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Speaker 2: to do all four strokes, yeah, as it works your

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Speaker 2: whole body.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're spot on. I mean, Neil, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I've done butterfly since I was about fifteen, though, mate,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I still could. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to jump in the pool and give it a crack.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we always remember it's a rigal motion, like you

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Speaker 2: like it. Test down, bum down, chest down, bum down. Help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, look, I just think it's so

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Speaker 1: incredible to see our more senior Territorians swimming at this

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Speaker 1: mean Bob in the Bob Patterson in the seventy to seventy.

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Speaker 2: Fours and he's you know, seventy five to eighty four. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: and he got he got one gold, a silver and

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Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit more about the realays, Neil.

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Speaker 1: I love a good real eye and you know you

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Speaker 1: see that team spirit come together. Tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about how our team went over there.

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Speaker 2: We won, We won, We won the three twenty for

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Speaker 2: women in freestyle and in in the medley with all

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Speaker 2: against about you know, five other teams and they won

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Speaker 2: it by about twenty five seconds. They went close, or

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Speaker 2: they certainly said an NT record. I don't think we

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Speaker 2: Australian one, but we and we were quite quite close

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Speaker 2: to a world one. It was they were just so

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Speaker 1: When you say the three twenty, real ay, is that

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Speaker 1: like an accumulation of ages of age, you've got.

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Speaker 2: To average eight, you've got to average eighty. Now, because

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Speaker 2: we had in that race, we had val and and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that one's eighty six and the other one's eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: That meant we could have a seventy five year old

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Speaker 2: and a seventy one year old in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, and how cool.

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Speaker 2: It's only because our eighty plus eighty five plus ones

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and how awesome like it sounds like our swimmers

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Speaker 1: have done absolutely awesome. I mean, a total of twenty

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Speaker 1: three Northern Territory swimmers. You must be you know, you

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Speaker 1: must be really proud of what they've achieved.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm absolutely proud. I mean, I'm the president of

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory Branch. I mean I didn't even swim

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Speaker 2: some of them haven't traveled that much really, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're not. Although the other advantage here is that most

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Speaker 2: just and we just you know, like so it's they're

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Speaker 2: mean only because it's close exactly, and we often come

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Speaker 2: over here and swim we've swum many times in the

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Speaker 2: Singaporeans have a championship here in usually October November, and

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Speaker 2: we've summoned that many times. So and we've brought not

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Speaker 2: it's sort of like, I mean, it's it's sort of

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Speaker 2: a holiday. This time, it didn't seem much of a holiday.

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Speaker 2: There were so many people. I mean there were nearly

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Speaker 2: five thousand, nearly five thousand competitors, Wow, from about eighty

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. And then when you look at how our

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Mass systemers have gone, Neil, I just think

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Speaker 1: it's so wonderful.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I love seeing seeing our senior Territorians in the pool

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Speaker 1: swimming at that age and then competing to you know,

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Speaker 1: to the level that they are at that age. I

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Speaker 1: I just think it's really you know, it's something so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so health it's so good for your health.

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Speaker 2: I mean, one of our other swimmers Steve Greenwell came

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Speaker 2: back to swimming because he was diagnosed as a diabetic.

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Speaker 2: He's now fifty eight and he's come back as for

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Speaker 2: a health reasons and he's swam some of the best times. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like he hadn't done that thing since he was about

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Speaker 1: What a legend. That's so good. I love it.

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Speaker 2: And although he didn't win any medals, y he set

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Speaker 2: personal best. Yeah that's all. That's all you can really

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Speaker 1: With your spot on well. Neil, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us this morning from Singapore and letting us

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Speaker 1: know what's going on. I love hearing about Territorians doing

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Speaker 1: great stuff and this is You've brought the biggest smile

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Speaker 1: to my face hearing about these awesome senior territorians absolutely

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Speaker 1: smashing USh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much, Katie. I'm glad you were

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Speaker 2: interested in what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: No, I love it. Thank you so much for having

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