1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda. In the morning, Sam the dog is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: in the house. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Doctor Andrew Rochford is here to give us our weekly 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: medical checkup. Hello Andrew, how are you? 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm very well. How are you guys? 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: You know, let's talk about what's happening in Victoria. It's 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: quite alarming. Is it inevitable that that's going to happen everywhere? 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: Or we are we quite safe in thinking New South 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Wales won't have that. 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we want to look at it 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: as inevitable. Is it surprising, No, it's not surprising. We 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: know this virus is extremely contagious. We know that one 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: person can spread it very quickly to another group of 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: people if we find ourselves getting a little bit too 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: close and doing things that you know, a normal day 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: to day activities, but it can be spread quite quick. 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: So I heard that the one in Victoria, one of 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: the ones was sharing a cigarette lighter at a bus stop. 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so as not a cigarette but cigarette cigarette lighter. 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: So it's a really tricky. Key part of this virus 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: is trying to figure out exactly, you know, what are 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the scenarios where we see it being spread. So, you know, 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: you have large groups of people, say, you know, protesting 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: that we don't see the spikes. Then you have groups 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: of people inside houses getting it, sharing a cigarette lighter. 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: We know, the longer you spread I mean, the longer 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: you spend in a close confined space with somebody who 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: has it, the greater the likelihood that you will get 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: the disease. But it's really hard because it's completely unpredictable. 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Some people catch it, some people don't, some people get sick, 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: some people don't. So it's about coming up with some 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: rules and sort of regulations that are the best case 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: scenario for the largest majority of people. 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: A friend of mine was saying on the weekend that 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: she'd heard about people who could be super spreaders. These 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: aren't just people who are asymptomatic, because some asymptomatic people 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: may not spread it as much as others. But these 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: are There are some amongst us who are absolute super spreaders, 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: And like typhoid Mary in the old days, I don't 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: even know it, but they are everywhere they go. They 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: infect huge numbers. 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: When can we expect the release of that cinema Marvel trilogy, 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: the super Spreaders? It makes them sound like they're Look, 45 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: here's the reality the virus changes, and it only changes slightly, 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: and the whole idea of the virus, what Dick's trying 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: to do is survive as long as it possibly can. 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: And for that virus to survive, it has to go 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: from one host to another, because when it shows up 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: in you, your immune system kicks off. Your immune system 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: starts killing the virus, and it thinks, oh my goodness, 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to find somewhere else that doesn't have this 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: response so that I can continue to survive. So for 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: some people, they have strains of the virus, just slightly 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: different strains that are better at spreading from one person 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: to the next, and invariably that's the version of the 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: virus that survives the longest. Now, and it's the same 58 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: with people that are asymptomatic. If you don't have symptoms, 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: you're out and about, you're hanging out with your mates. 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: So that form of the virus is more likely to say, 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: vibe the virus that makes people really really thick and 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: kills people, that version of the virus doesn't survive very 63 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: long because it invariably that host stays inside, rugged up, 64 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: doesn't spread it to other people. So some people just 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: happen to have a version that is that is better 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: adapted to moving between people. 67 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: So do you think it's any merit in going getting tested? 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: So everyone gets tested like one day a week, so 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: even if you're not feeling unwell or anything like that, 70 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: you just everyone gets test. If your name is Jones, 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: you get tested on Friday and Kelly gets tested on Thursday. 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: Is that worth doing? Should should we. 73 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Be looking at that? Well, everything in healthcare it comes 74 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: down to a risk versus benefits. So obviously the benefit 75 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: of that is that you could very quickly figure out 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: exactly where everybody is that has the virus, whether they're 77 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: symptomatic or asymptomatic, and those people are isolated, so you 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: would be able to control exactly what's happening with the virus. 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: The risk of that is obviously the costs associated with 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: it logistically actually getting people to be able to achieve 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: that number of tests, because there isn't an infinite number 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: of tests either. So we need to make sure that 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: we're balancing resources and use of resources versus how can 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: we manage this virus? And I think that when you 85 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: look at it, the cheapest way to do that is 86 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: for us to keep our distance from each other, try 87 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: to continue to practice hygiene as best as we possibly can, 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: because that doesn't necessarily cost us a lot. But it 89 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: also we know that we can control the virus if 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: all of us do that. 91 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: That's it. I've been washing my hands like nobody's business. 92 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's as simple as that. Going 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: back to my analogy about the virus trying to jump 94 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: from one person to the next, it's up to us 95 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: to make sure that we prevent that virus from getting 96 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: to us, and the best way to do that. The 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: best defense is distance, but also just washing your hands, 98 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: not touching your face, all the simple things that we've 99 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: been talking about since the beginning. 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: Away from people as appealing that those people might be well. 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: Also, the Melbourne thing has reminded us, and I've noticed 102 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: more social distancing in shops and things. We're not through this, 103 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: and I think people were getting complacent. Now we're being reminded, 104 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: don't do it. 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I think that we need to understand 106 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: humans are humans, and we're created to be interactive and social. 107 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: And I think we're going to see elements of fatigue 108 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: about this because this is an abnormal way for us 109 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: to exist, so there will be times where people do 110 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: I mean the photos of people on the beaches in 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: the UK or parties in the US, in countries where 112 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: they are being devastated by this. But that's just humans, 113 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: and I think we have to be continue to be 114 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: kind to ourselves, Understand there will be flares, and try 115 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: to manage it as best we can, but understand it's 116 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: not going away. Just because we don't see cases or 117 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: sick people doesn't mean the virus has disappeared. 118 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: But Amanda, flares are back in. This is great news. 119 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: That's all I heard. 120 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: We go to see Andrew. It's always a treat to 121 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: talk to you. For more information, visit digital health dot gov, 122 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: galv dot A you Andrew Roshford, Thank. 123 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: You, pleasure. Thanks you guys. Join the and Amanda in 124 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: the Morning one at one point seven. Tell you