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Speaker 1: Great per flick with Ben.

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Speaker 2: Russell.

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Speaker 1: Russell, it's great to hear you on the wireless. Good

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Speaker 1: to see you again, sir. Yeah, so you're still going

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Speaker 1: to the movies es.

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Speaker 2: Going around, so you and I don't have to. Although

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Speaker 2: this is not a good this one I might have to.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this one, I think give them at least

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Speaker 2: dreadful least. This one is one that you have to see.

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Speaker 2: Although I will warn everybody it is long.

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Speaker 1: It's agreed to and I know some people are just

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Speaker 1: get so frustrated at the moment about how long movies are.

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Speaker 1: This one's nearly three hours, so it is quite long.

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Speaker 1: So it might be almost one that you do wait,

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Speaker 1: you do almost wait for streaming and then you watch

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Speaker 1: it in installments. Still still, but it's it's one of

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Speaker 1: those movies. So it's Eddington directed by Ariasta, who is

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Speaker 1: he's an auteur of horror movie. So it's like Jordan Peele.

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Speaker 1: He's one of this new wave of horror directors in

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Speaker 1: horror movie. Tho it is not a horror I didn't think,

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Speaker 1: although some bits of it are a bit horrifying. So

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Speaker 1: he makes movies that are not your traditional horror movies.

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Speaker 1: But they do inspire dread, mostly just because of you know,

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Speaker 1: he finds terror in pretty ordinary situation twenty four A

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Speaker 1: twenty four of course, movies like Hereditary, he did Creepy

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Speaker 1: Midsummer Boa Is Afraid, where he worked with Joaquin Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: who's reunited with on Eddington. And so this is a

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Speaker 1: movie where you know something happened, maybe a celebrity dies,

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Speaker 1: and you're down at the pub and you have a

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Speaker 1: mate who cracks a joke about that celebrity and you go, oh, mate, soon,

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Speaker 1: too soon. This is what you'll be thinking as you're

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Speaker 1: watching this movie because it's set in May twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: It's a timeout. What a time, What a time? And

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Speaker 1: we all just want to be reminded of it, don't we.

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Speaker 1: And so it's not it's not a true story, but

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Speaker 1: it's inspired by actual events. So you've got the global

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Speaker 1: pandemic just kicking off. You've got the murder of George

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Speaker 1: Floyd and then how that restarted the Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 1: movement globally. You've got conspiracy theories exploding online social stuff,

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Speaker 1: social distancing mask mandates, all of this kind of I

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Speaker 1: think this has ended yet. Well that's that's why it

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Speaker 1: feels too soon because I'm not sure if we've fully

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Speaker 1: processed a lot of this stuff. And so Ariasta wrote

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Speaker 1: this movie when he was in lockdown in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: He lived, he grew up in New Mexico. He returned

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Speaker 1: there to kind of bunker down during the pandemic. And

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Speaker 1: so the film is set in this fictional town of

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Speaker 1: Eddington in New Mexico. It's kind of like this sleepy

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Speaker 1: little backwater, and the local sheriff, Joe Cross is played

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Speaker 1: by Jaquin Phoenix. He's ultimately he's a decent guy. But

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Speaker 1: out of his control, I guess his moral compass starts

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Speaker 1: to wiggle all over the shop a bit. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you didn't go back then, People you know, really lost

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Speaker 1: their marble, you remember. But we're fighting over to And

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Speaker 1: so even though there hasn't been any cases of COVID

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Speaker 1: in this town, everybody's very worried about what it all means,

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Speaker 1: because back in that point in twenty twenty, we didn't

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Speaker 1: know if everybody was going to die, if there was

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Speaker 1: ever going to be a vaccine, if it was if

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Speaker 1: we're going to turn into zombies, who knows, you know,

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Speaker 1: anything was possible. Sounds like Eddington needed Mark McGowan. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, Well,

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Speaker 1: they did have their own state daddy. They had the

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Speaker 1: Internet daddy. Pedro Pascal, who played the mayor of the town. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's probably probably maybe just a couple of notches above

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Speaker 1: Mark McGowan, Marky Mark and so anyway, so Pedro Pascal

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Speaker 1: is the mayor, and just like Mark McGowan, he wants

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Speaker 1: he's not so into that. He's more into the freedom

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Speaker 1: for the people, all of that kind of stuff. And

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Speaker 1: he does he refuses to wear his mask because he's

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Speaker 1: as mad as sheriff. Yeah, because you can't breath and

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Speaker 1: and so. But but generally he wants just everybody to

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Speaker 1: incredible dynamic between Pedro Pascal and Joaquin Phoenix, which is like,

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Speaker 1: just is so awesome to see these two incredible actors

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Speaker 1: She is she is reclusive, she sort of stays in

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Speaker 1: is kind of going down these rabbit holes.

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Speaker 2: Very real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so realistic. You'll be watching this just going,

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Speaker 1: run against the mayor in the mayoral race for the town.

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Speaker 1: So then you've got this election campaign and misinformation, which

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Speaker 1: again is a very real thing that happens in our society.

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Speaker 1: The George Floyd thing happens in Minnesota, but the Black

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Speaker 1: Lives Matter movement reverberates all the way to Eddington. You've

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Speaker 1: got protests. Everyone's against the police. Of course, Sheriff Joe

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Speaker 1: anything wrong, he's got people saying, oh, you know you're racist,

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Speaker 1: and so he's dealing with that. It gets complicated, it

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Speaker 1: gets a bit convoluted, and then it you know, because

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Speaker 1: Ariasta specializes in this sort of stuff. You know, you've

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Speaker 1: and then it just gets worse and worse. You just

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Speaker 1: feel it in the piteous stomach as you're watching it.

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Speaker 1: You know something bad is going to happen. And then

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Speaker 1: things really snowball out of control to a conclusion that

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Speaker 1: is wild. Wow, Oh yeah, wild conclusion right, Like all

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not going to give you any spoilers.

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Speaker 1: Just imagine one in Phoenix with an M six.

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Speaker 2: Right. It all comes down to this, how many this

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Speaker 2: town is big enough for the both of us? Are

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Speaker 2: you that's Pedro? Are you giving it?

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Speaker 1: I would have said, how many COVID shots out of five?

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Speaker 1: Would you give it? Good Russ? No town is small

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Speaker 1: enough that you can't have Jaquin and Pedro. I want

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Speaker 1: both those guys in my town. But I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give it four. Oh like, as long as you can,

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Speaker 1: as long as you can get your head around how

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Speaker 1: long it is. This is such an interesting film. The

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Speaker 1: tone of it is unlike anything you'll see this year

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Speaker 1: is so well made, and the performances of just fantastic

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Speaker 1: Austin Butler as well as a cult leader.

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Speaker 2: And four is the number of COVID shots Emmet's stone

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Speaker 2: did not have. Yes,