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Speaker 1: We know that Parliament is indeed sitting this week and

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Speaker 1: as we learned earlier in the week, Independent Robin Lamley

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Speaker 1: MLA was endorsed by the COLP to become this Speaker

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Speaker 1: of the Northern Territories Legislative Assembly. In my opinion, a

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Speaker 1: very smart and mature move by the Chief Minister Leafanocchiaro.

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Speaker 1: Robin is the most experienced person in Parliament and has

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Speaker 1: the ability to uphold the standard of parliament which Territorians

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Speaker 1: deserve and expect. And Robin joins me on the line

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Speaker 1: right now. Good morning to you, Robin.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and thank you for your nice words,

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Speaker 2: very kind.

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Speaker 1: Well should I say good morning Madam Speaker. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: I'm still getting used to it, Katie. I'm pinching myself.

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Speaker 2: So it came completely unexpectedly and I am thrilled. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: How have the first couple of days been, Robin? I

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Speaker 1: watched on yesterday and I got to tell you, for me,

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Speaker 1: a long period of time, and now hearing these brand

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Speaker 1: new names in different electorates and seeing everybody in different

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Speaker 1: jobs it's quite bizarre.

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Speaker 2: It is bizarre. There are so many new people in

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Speaker 2: the chamber for new members, and of course the ones

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Speaker 2: that survived are in different positions, so it is just

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Speaker 2: a complete changing of the guard and including me a speaker.

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Speaker 2: So as a spectacle for people watching it, it's very,

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Speaker 2: very different. And I think that's exactly what Territorians were

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Speaker 2: looking for though, weren't they a complete change in focus

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Speaker 2: and the personalities really well, that's.

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Speaker 1: How they voted Robin. What have in terms of you know,

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Speaker 1: yesterday some legislation coming through, and the first second and

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Speaker 2: Look I looked across at the new government and it

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Speaker 2: The ministers know their their jobs. They're very focused on

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Speaker 2: for the next couple of weeks. It's all there and

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Speaker 2: they're they're working hard, and that's exactly what should happen.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of a bit nervous for me sitting

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Speaker 2: starting over question time, but we've all been there and

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Speaker 2: done it before so well. The main players, the leader

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Speaker 2: to work yesterday and that was good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good. And I think that that is

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Speaker 1: do want to see change. That was what they'd voted for, Robin.

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Speaker 1: In terms of legislation today, what's on the agenda.

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Speaker 2: Look, there's a gosh, I haven't really studied it. Now

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Speaker 1: You don't have to debate it.

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Speaker 2: Do you for debate it? That there are two, possibly

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Speaker 2: Liquor Legislation Further Amendment Bill. That's the one where they're

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Speaker 2: So look, they've said it all out, We've been hearing

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Speaker 2: It will take time, Katie. You know, I was sitting

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Speaker 2: It will take time for those to be implemented and

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Speaker 2: I agree, Katie. Katie, the Attorney General answered that question

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's so interesting, and you know, stepping

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't think many of many of us

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Speaker 1: Over exactly history exactly.

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Speaker 2: Being crime escalate and everyone's lives be impacted. But that's

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Speaker 2: the nature of politics and a speaker, I just have

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Speaker 1: Keep them under control. Robin, what kind of speaker are

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Speaker 2: No nonsense, honest, a fair I hope that I can

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Speaker 2: just be myself. What I am enjoying over the last

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours, Katie, is fighting myself again. When you're

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Speaker 2: pretty much what I have been for the last nine years,

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Speaker 2: that's all you do. This job will give me an

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Speaker 2: very grateful.

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Speaker 1: Oh look, I think you'll do a tremendous job. I

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Speaker 1: And I can see you're not going to have any

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Speaker 1: of it, Robin, unless it is valid and and I

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Speaker 1: As you've been in there for such a long time,

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Speaker 2: I know every trick in the book, Katie, You've.

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Speaker 1: Played them, been there and done, even had yourself thrown

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Speaker 2: I recall correctly, Robin, intentionally usually, but yes, nothing like

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Speaker 1: I asked very quick listener question before I let you

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Speaker 1: do you know what time Parliament sittings take place? And

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can go to the Northern Territory Legislative Assembly

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Speaker 2: website and follow the instructions to get to the live

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Speaker 2: broadcast which is on the home page. And the sittings

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Speaker 2: then we continue throughout the evening.

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Speaker 1: And are members of the public able to attend in

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Speaker 2: They can, more than welcome. In fact, I would encourage

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Speaker 1: Good stuff seeing democracy and.

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Speaker 2: Territory and visitors are all welcome to sit in the

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Speaker 1: Well, Robin Lamley, it's always good to catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: We will no doubt talk to you again very soon.

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Speaker 1: Good luck over the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, Thank you,