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Speaker 1: to all Aboriginal and Terrestrate Islander peoples today. Hello and

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast for ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things.

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Speaker 1: Often when I'm making a decision, I'm like, am I

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Speaker 1: making this because it feels intuitively right? Or am I

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Speaker 1: deciding out of fear? Hello and welcome back to the potty.

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Speaker 1: It is your host, Georgie Stevenson, lawyer turned entrepreneur, business owner,

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Speaker 1: new mum all the things. These are our fun Friday

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Speaker 1: epps where you send in your life dilemmas and I

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Speaker 1: provide you my very unqualified two cents on the situation

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Speaker 1: and a tear always joins in.

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Speaker 2: Two emphasis on the unqualified.

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Speaker 1: This week, guys, today is all about money, So we

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Speaker 1: have a big life question and then we get into

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Speaker 1: our hotline questions, which are all about just having money

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Speaker 1: make you greedy? You guys should know how I feel

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Speaker 1: about this. And we also touch on the current economic

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Speaker 1: situation and the talks of a recession happening and basically

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Speaker 1: how to keep feeling abundant where all these you know,

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Speaker 1: fear based money mindset is in the air.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. It's very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a week funky time, guys. But yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: get straight into the show. Oh wait, recommendations like we

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Speaker 1: do these every week and every week I just forget

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Speaker 1: a tea. Watch your recommendation for the week.

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Speaker 2: My recommendation is a TV show that I binged last

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Speaker 1: You can't take my recommendation. I recommended it to you.

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Speaker 2: Let me get fine, guys. It's a great show. Think

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Speaker 2: summer I turned pretty crossed with suits. Yeah that's how

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Speaker 2: i'd described it. I think because it's like.

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Speaker 1: Obviously about law, but the biggest rom com and just juicy.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ted Epps.

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Speaker 1: Well, It's like when I find a good show, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's actually pull the audience on this. Put

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Speaker 1: this in your notes. Sit here. So when I find

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Speaker 1: it the right time? Is the wrong time? Is there

442
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: a recession coming? And she said, honestly, whatever the news

443
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 1: tells you about when to buy and when not to

444
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: buy with real estate, do the opposite.

445
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

446
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's She's just like, if the news is like

447
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: don't buy, you know, the interest rates are going up

448
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: and this and that, or the market is too you know,

449
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: blowing up too much, She's like, honestly, do the opposite.

450
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, Well, she's like they don't understand the

451
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: actual market because obviously it controls consumer behavior. But she

452
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: was just saying, if you have the deposit for a

453
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: house and you are prepared to hang on to that

454
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: house for you know, ten or twenty years, it is

455
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: never a wrong time to buy, true, because she's like,

456
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: the market will go up and down, the market will

457
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: do its thing. Even if we go through a recession

458
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: and it like quote unquote crashes, if you can hold

459
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: that house for the next ten or twenty years, it

460
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: won't matter. Yeah.

461
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: It's kind of like shares, yes, exactly, if and buy

462
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: them on you thought it was a low but then

463
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: it gets even lower, it's not that big a deal

464
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: because it will go up again.

465
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: Correct. And so she's like, don't listen to the news,

466
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: don't buy into the fear. It's the whole like stay

467
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: in your own lane kind of thing. And if you

468
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: have enough money to buy a house, you know, if

469
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 1: that is your next step. If there's a house that

470
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: ticks all your boxes, buy the house compared to if

471
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: you don't, then don't. She's like, don't buy into the news.

472
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: Don't buy into the because that's what she said. It's

473
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: really funny because two years ago she's like, you know,

474
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: people are saying don't buy because COVID's about to hear it. Oh,

475
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: and then the market went and she's she's she bought

476
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: so many properties because she has like a really big

477
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: portfolio of her own properties. Yeah, she bought so many

478
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: properties and then everything went nuts because she did the opposite. Yeah,

479
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: And that's what she said, is like, you take chances,

480
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: you take risks, like this is life. Just don't be worried.

481
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: And I love it so much. And that's what I

482
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: had to tell myself. With us.

483
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: I was like Georgia, like.

484
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: You know, and also, worst case scenario, we sell the house,

485
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, we sort it out and it's it's fine.

486
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: I just I think we shouldn't buy into fear. I

487
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: just think it's the worst thing to do. And often

488
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: when I'm making a decision, I'm like, am I making

489
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: this because it feels intuitively right? Or am I deciding

490
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: out of fear, because if you're deciding out of fear, no,

491
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: it's the wrong decision.

492
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think as well, thinking back to the beginning

493
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: of COVID, I was actually quite scared as well, but

494
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: I tried to make myself excited about it in a way.

495
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: So I actually it was so long ago now, so

496
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: the stuff I might say now might not be factually

497
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: completely correct. I'm pretty sure that after every major recession

498
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: you see this crazy wild I'm pretty sure every massive

499
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: business aligned with a recession. So like I'm pretty sure

500
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm or like boom, so like Amazon came out of

501
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: a recession. Google came out of a recession, or like

502
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: these massive industry booms always came out of a recession,

503
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: and that was the time it was ready for the

504
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: next sort of like the world is leveling up, so

505
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: it goes through a bit of a funk, and then

506
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: you're next the technology evolution had or digital age that

507
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 2: always happens after financial.

508
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: You're the queen of positivity.

509
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: I love it.

510
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Well that actually, let's even chat about that, because I

511
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: want to be very transparent and say, you know, I

512
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: think on social media and things can be like, oh,

513
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, obviously business is going well and everyone's killing

514
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: it and having the best time. And it's like, we

515
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: have noticed such a huge dip in consumer spending in

516
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: Naked Harvest, just like Hute and obviously even I know

517
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: personally from the RNC course of enrollments last year compared

518
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: to enrollments this year. Yeah, and it's obviously like circumstances,

519
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: we're coming out of that huge you know, COVID stam

520
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: where everyone was at home, everyone was spending money because

521
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: they couldn't spend it on travel or but.

522
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: Like even just job keeper for like sixteen year olds

523
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: was there having the life.

524
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: And so things are changing, and we have had a

525
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: discussion with the team and we're kind of like, look,

526
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: things are changing, and it's okay, yea. The best thing

527
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: that we can do is, like you were saying, level up.

528
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

529
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: So a big thing we noticed within Naked Harvest is

530
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: our usual marketing activations or things we would do just

531
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: weren't cutting it like they used to. Yeah, And so

532
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: we actually sat down and we had this big team

533
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: meeting where we were like, what can we do to

534
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: level up? Not I would I don't want to say

535
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: pivot because it's not like we you know, changed all

536
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: these things or anything like that. But it's almost like,

537
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: all right, here's a time where it's a challenge and

538
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: it's like let's fucking go, you know. I mean, like

539
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: let's do this. Rather than being like oh my god

540
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: and like leaning into the fear, it's like, no, this

541
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: is just a challenge. We're going to have to pivot

542
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: a little bit with how we do things. You know,

543
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: marketing is changing, but it's okay, and it's exciting, Like

544
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: like you said, like it's exciting. But I think let's

545
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: also be fucking transparent about it because so many businesses

546
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: that I've spoken to, you know, huge, they're big giants

547
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: in the industry, are feeling the exact same. So if

548
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: you're feeling the same, maybe you have a small business

549
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: and you've noticed consumer spending has you know, dropped or

550
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: anything like that, Like I just want to say, you're

551
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: not alone. It is so normal. We're obviously going through

552
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: something right now. But again, also I just refuse to

553
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: let it mean anything.

554
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what is crazy is that it's

555
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 2: like consumer spending is dropping because people are stressed because

556
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: interest rates are going up, in cost of living starting

557
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: to go up, but because consumer spending drops, then companies

558
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: aren't getting the money, and then it's kind of just

559
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: like the circle because then they don't make enough money

560
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: to keep stuff on, and then that reduces consumer spending

561
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: even more exactly, and it's just like this hell whole

562
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: that everybody starts because they're scared to spend money.

563
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean is like, if we don't

564
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: buy into the fear, the recession doesn't happen.

565
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: No.

566
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Literally, But also I think it's locking. So I have

567
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: a core belief of you know, if there is a

568
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: recession or if there is something that happens, I'm gonna

569
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: be okay, I'm going to sort it out. And you know,

570
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: within the business too, we're going to work it out.

571
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: This is just another challenge with a business, Jesus, you

572
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of them, and it's like, I'm going

573
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: to work it out. I'm going to you know, sort

574
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: it out. And I think it is huge of going

575
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: back to the source, which is fear and anxiety. And

576
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: this person has said it like do you have any

577
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: tips on how to deal with fear and anxiety when

578
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: it comes to the economy. So, first of all, a

579
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: TIA that was a great one stop watching the news. Absolutely,

580
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: don't buy into it. Cleanse to Instagram, cleanse the gram.

581
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: Second one I want you to do is what I

582
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: was saying, like, don't let it mean anything. Something only

583
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: has power on you if you let it mean something.

584
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: So just go, Okay, I'm aware I'm noticing some things happening,

585
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: but I refuse to let it mean something that is

586
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: fearful for me. Yeah, because that's like, you know, if

587
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: we're getting into the quantum field and like matter festing

588
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: and stuff, the more you lean into it, the more

589
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: the thing's gonna happen. Absolutely, So it's like nap stopping here,

590
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: we're not buying into that today. It's going, yes, locking

591
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: in the core beliefs of whatever happens, I sort it out,

592
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: whatever challenge comes, I rise up.

593
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

594
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: And then also I would just be working on your

595
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: mental health absolutely so, doing things that do bring you

596
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: happiness and joy, doing things that do help you with

597
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: your mental health, like journaling and meditation. A tear had

598
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: a really good recommendation in a previous podcast about cleansing

599
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: your Instagram, So unfollowing people who just don't, you know,

600
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: bring joy to your day. Doing little things like that

601
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: is really important and then again I would be finding expanders.

602
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: I loved what you said a tea of like seeing

603
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: what happens after a recession, because it's yeah, you go.

604
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: I did a quick Google love here are some companies

605
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 2: that started during a recession tell us And it blows

606
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: my mind because imagine the nerves these people would have had, going,

607
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: this is the right time to start my business.

608
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: Should I wait a few years? But this is awesome?

609
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: So General Electric, General Motors IBM, which is the computer

610
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: company that was Apple's major rival when they first started.

611
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: Disney HP hired to the hotels FedEx, Microsoft, Wow, Salesforce,

612
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: Google and Facebook stop that love.

613
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: That yeah, And that's like I also think of because actually,

614
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: if I reflect last when COVID first hit, I had

615
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: like a mental breakdown. I remember this key day where

616
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: everything was happening and they mentioned like lockdown was happening,

617
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: and I had girlfriends who were at the Gold Coast

618
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: and they were about to drive home to Brisbane. They're like, oh,

619
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: we'll just pop in and see you, and they popped

620
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: in and I just started and I just because I

621
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: just was like, I'm so unsure. I don't know what's

622
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: going to happen. Like we had just started Naked Harvest,

623
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: we had just got in a warehouse, like we had

624
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: just spent so much money on outlays, and I was

625
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: genuinely scared and so fearful, and I remember crying. And

626
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: it's crazy because my best friend, she was literally just

627
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: starting her business who does the crystals called Crystal Co.

628
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: And like, it's crazy because she was just studying a

629
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: business at the start of COVID and she just had

630
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: no fear.

631
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: She's like, what are you talking.

632
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: About, Georgia, Like basically get your shit together. She's like,

633
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, like she was so positive and she's like, no,

634
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: this is exciting. And now I look back, it's the

635
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: biggest blessing in dis Oh my god. Like COVID just

636
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: ramped up consumer spending and was huge, except you know,

637
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: people were at home and they were working out, and

638
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, it was ended up being really amazing for us. Obviously,

639
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: COVID in general was not amazing. I don't I want

640
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: to stress that, but I look back and I remember

641
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: how I felt, and I remember the fear, and now

642
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: I know then what happened after that. I'm like, no,

643
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that again. I'm not buying into the fear.

644
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm not letting it control me because I believe that

645
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be better than I could have imagined.

646
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: And even if there might be a dip or something

647
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: happens where it looks a bit not great, I just

648
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: refuse to believe that it's then not going to go

649
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: up and be this amazing opportunity and this amazing thing

650
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: that happens.

651
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: It's like that quote. I used to say it to

652
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: myself all the time because I was a bit of

653
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: a stress pot. But like stressing and worrying is just

654
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: putting yourself through the pain twice. Yes, So don't I

655
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: love that? That's Yeah, that's such a good quote to

656
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: finish on a tea. Yeah, I hope you enjoyed that

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Speaker 2: little recession ranch. It would be really cool to get

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Speaker 2: someone actually who has qualification just to talk about player.

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Speaker 2: We have no financial qualification whatsoever us And that was

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Speaker 2: not financial advice, just to stilly out on a podcast

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Speaker 2: talking about money and financials.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, don't buy into the fear, my loves, You've

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Speaker 1: got this. Thank you so much for listening to another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Rise and Conquer podcast. If you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: it and want more, Come connect with us on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Riseinconquer dot podcast and join our Facebook discussion group,

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Speaker 1: a Rise and Concer podcast community. We're an independent podcast

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Speaker 1: and we have a small team, so we do appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time and support. If you have a spare moment,

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Speaker 1: a follow or subscribe on whatever platform you listen to

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Speaker 1: would be so amazing, And look, if you're feeling extra kind,

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Speaker 1: a review on Apple Podcasts would be great.