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Speaker 1: Powered by the my Heart Radio app from ninety six

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Speaker 1: air VM to where you're listening today.

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Speaker 2: This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast. Welcome.

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Speaker 3: This is the Cleary and Lesser Rewound podcast with some

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Speaker 3: more bits I may have missed.

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Speaker 1: Place on the Lost Lost Landmarks.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Atlantis Marine Park came about in nineteen eighty one in

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Speaker 3: two rocks as part of Alan Bonn's Yan Chips Sun

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Speaker 3: City plan. Unfortunately it closed in nineteen ninety due to

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Speaker 3: financial difficulty, but during that time seven bottle nosed dolphins

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Speaker 3: were caught from the local coastal population and used to

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Speaker 3: performance animals for those ten years before it closed. And

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Speaker 3: someone who I guess would have known them intimately, I

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Speaker 3: imagine so well, John Gardner, Raja, right, gosh, remember Raja,

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Speaker 3: John Gardner. This is John Lost Landmarks. This is a

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Speaker 3: little reunion for us this morning.

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Speaker 2: But you Almark, John, you together years.

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Speaker 5: Thirty six years ago that we all worked at the

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Speaker 5: Eagle together. Dean Claire's is the reason that I got

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Speaker 5: out of radiation. So bloody good when he came there,

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Speaker 5: going to be eating You're going to be eating his

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Speaker 5: dust for the rest of your career. Mate, Do something else.

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Speaker 2: It's hilarious.

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Speaker 5: Good to talk to you, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so, John, you were one of the MC's at Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: They had compared Atlanta. Really so my boss was actually

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Speaker 5: a circus fellow who breake both his legs and he

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Speaker 5: got stuck in per So he ended up at the

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Speaker 5: park and he made the biggest difference to it because

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Speaker 5: he really bought showtime too. You know, sometimes you do

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Speaker 5: this stuff almost documentary style, but he bought the sets,

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Speaker 5: the costumes, the storylines, the whole thing to it.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 5: And I started there on New Year's Day in nineteen

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Speaker 5: eighty two and it was the biggest day ever at

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Speaker 5: the park. They had seven six hundred people there that day.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot of people. As ice creams to

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Speaker 1: be sold and they did. Yeah, the ice cream parlor.

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Speaker 1: Did you have to wear the spook the sort of

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Speaker 1: space suit. It was almost Zick Freed and Roy kind

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Speaker 5: We did have. We did have to stay soon. I

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Speaker 5: had the Roman you're a toga party guy only, no doubt,

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Speaker 5: the Roman thing. And we all had to have blonde hair.

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Speaker 5: Hair he wanted. He had a whole science about you

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Speaker 5: know what thought the lady should wear, so there was

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Speaker 5: something there for dad, and the boys had to look

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Speaker 5: good for home. And then there's the stuff that the kids, obviously,

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Speaker 5: but I did. I did over two thousand lives those there, wow,

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Speaker 5: children and animals, which I think they also call ad

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Speaker 2: I never worked with it.

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Speaker 3: They also say never work with either, and you would

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Speaker 3: have been comparing when surely some things would go awry.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, we used to get bitten sometimes. Oh right. We

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Speaker 5: knew that seals didn't like thunder, and we would literally

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Speaker 5: be just like you know, like on edge, sort of

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Speaker 5: walking around the stage waiting for something to happen. Wow.

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Speaker 5: We had a lady pass away watching the show. It

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Speaker 5: saved up their money to come and she finally got there.

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Speaker 5: The dolphins to dolphins.

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Speaker 1: So god know it like a line from a Land

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Speaker 1: of Boros said song.

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Speaker 5: Wow. But it was a magic place, and I think

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Speaker 5: everybody that ever went there still has a very significant

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Speaker 2: I think everyone wanted to work there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, swimming with dolphins, what more could you have

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Speaker 5: Well, I used to do it after after work quite often.

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Speaker 5: We just you weren't allowed to you weren't allowed to

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Speaker 5: But I mean I tell dolphins in my arms. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know it's really it's very, very touching. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, spent a lot of time John on stage. They're

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Speaker 5: No, I can honestly say I never fell in one.

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Speaker 1: Went in the drink.

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Speaker 5: Your feet, but I did get bitten.

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Speaker 2: When you would do my mother never.

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Speaker 3: Kissing, Well, I mean they are that sort of level,

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Speaker 5: It is there is a non glamorous side to doing that,

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Speaker 5: And working in winter before we had winter costumes, we

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Speaker 5: I've done shows that the rain, the rain coming my

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Speaker 5: was it was tough. It was great. That's tourism.

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Speaker 1: Those that you've got to keep the green on even

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Speaker 1: if you suffer, I must go on. Like an episode

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Speaker 1: of White.

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Speaker 2: Lotus shows well, great memory. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: sharing them with us this morning, to welcome so lovely

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Speaker 2: to chat to you.

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Speaker 1: Have you got the suit on now?

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Speaker 5: Mate? Have you.

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Speaker 2: Bring it out on special occasions?

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Speaker 3: Take it to rotnest and try to entice the seal

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Speaker 3: your way maybe, John Guard, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: More more Lisa, more podcasts. Soon York is becoming the

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Speaker 2: new thing.

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Speaker 3: There's a hill there that would would house a Hollywood

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Speaker 1: As long as Tom Cruise isn't sitting on it.

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Speaker 3: No, So we've just had the twelve film there two

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Speaker 3: movies which are soon to be released have been filmed

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Speaker 3: in the historic town. One of them is Craig Sylvie's Runt,

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Speaker 3: and another film production is about to begin in the

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Speaker 3: next few weeks. Now you can imagine the cash injection

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Speaker 3: that this has given the local community. Craig Sylvie says

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Speaker 3: Runt York was selected as the ideal filming location due

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Speaker 3: to the town's distinctive character. York is effortlessly cinematic. The

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Speaker 3: main street feels like a movie lot. It's extraordinary. The

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Speaker 3: architecture is unspoiled, and the community itself, with its idiosyncrasies

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Speaker 3: that will appeal to audiences all over the world. Couldn't

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Speaker 3: agree with him more. I've been going to York for

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Speaker 3: love a heritage. The Shire of York CEO Chris Lenell

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Speaker 3: said the appeal of York as a setting in storytelling

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Speaker 3: It is the oldest inland town in wa It was

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Speaker 3: first settled in eighteen thirty one one. The Shire of

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Speaker 3: York Executive Manager of Corporate and Community Services, Alena Bean

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Speaker 3: says the economic impacts of filming within York have far

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Speaker 3: exceeded expectations. Obviously, you know, all those people in town

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Speaker 1: Although some locals haven't walked down the main street for

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Speaker 1: a bit for a while filming there.

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Speaker 3: Craig said that, or she said rather that during a

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Speaker 3: book signing with Craig Sylvie, their local bookstore sold out

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Speaker 3: of three hundred copies of Runt because of the sheer demand,

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Speaker 3: and many crew members suffered hay fever while they were

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Speaker 3: living in town, leaving the shelves of our chemist bare.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, she's listed that as one of the economic benefits.

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Speaker 3: and ninety four locals were used as extras in Ront,

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Speaker 3: giving aspiring actors and artists from the region an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to add to their resume. They're even talking about upping

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Speaker 3: the drama component of the high school, you know, because

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Speaker 3: it really is becoming such a location. Most recently, York

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Speaker 3: was backdropped for the filming of the comedy drama film Overture.

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Speaker 2: That's Bruce Beresford's.

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Speaker 3: New film starring Brian Brown and about two hundred and

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Speaker 3: twenty five West Australians are employed on the project on

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Speaker 3: overture as crew, extras and contractors, which means a cash

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Speaker 3: injection of three point five million into the WA economy

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Speaker 3: during the course of production.

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Speaker 2: It's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: It is exciting. Do we need to build that little Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: that big Hollywood studio and Malaga sent everything up. That

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess things have got to be and had

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Speaker 2: their final production thing. It's wonderful.

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Speaker 3: How you know much West Australia is, and of course

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Speaker 3: South is just you know, it's got something for everyone's sports,

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Speaker 2: Did you mention everything in this state?

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Speaker 1: And one day you've got handsome Sam Neil striding down

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Speaker 1: the street and you know there might be a few stoppages,

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Speaker 1: Who cares because it's filming. And then a month later

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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. And I'm such very cool. I'm such

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Speaker 2: I stayed in that you know that pub? Maybe I

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Speaker 1: There's one thing I want to know because they you know,

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Speaker 1: you change a few things when you're making something right.

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Speaker 1: So there's a cafe where I think Sam Neal goes

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Speaker 1: to who walks past it one stage? But the sign

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Speaker 2: More Cley, More Lisa more podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Clearsy and Lisa's rewound podcast. And during

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Speaker 1: our recent Perth pub crawl, we had plenty of requests

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Speaker 1: to have a chat to the legendary Dave Warner. Hey Dave,

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Speaker 1: we've just heard Suburban Boy and I played it a

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Speaker 1: few times at home yesterday. There was nothing like it

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Speaker 1: that organ sound and the punk kind of attitude. Did

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Speaker 1: anthem at the time.

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Speaker 4: I did, look and honestly I wrote it in nineteen

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Speaker 4: seventy two, I was driving along Quanana Freeway and you know,

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Speaker 4: watching the It was kind of a drizzly, wet day

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Speaker 4: and the windscreen wipers were going and I was really

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Speaker 4: convinced that I had written a hit song. But it

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Speaker 4: took six years for it to become a hit, so

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Speaker 4: there was no easy.

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Speaker 2: Path to it.

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Speaker 4: But I was really convinced in that song from the start,

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Speaker 4: and it was kind of a bit of an annunciation

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Speaker 4: about what my whole attitude to music was about. So

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Speaker 4: it worked well, but it did take its time to

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Speaker 2: Quick drive too. I reckon in nineteen seventy two the

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Speaker 2: and guess what, it's still being roadworks are still on it.

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Speaker 3: Before the Suburbs, you were in a band that was

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Speaker 3: called PUS. That was kind of prime punk era. What

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was a small but very dedicated, what

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Speaker 4: you would call a cult audience. We played our first

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Speaker 4: Martin McDonald donald. Some might remember Marty from World of Football.

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Speaker 2: His Michael McDonald.

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Speaker 4: Marty was his dad, and we said, oh, Marty, can

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Speaker 4: can we have a gig? So he gave us a

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Speaker 4: the audiences. Look, we probably really got over one hundred

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Speaker 4: it was kind of punk before punk, and a few

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Speaker 4: of the songs that later became songs that I played

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Speaker 4: other songs Frank Zappa and thug songs, and we read

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Speaker 2: It was a really good time.

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Speaker 5: I got to love it.

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Speaker 1: What about that following mate, Was it that that got

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Speaker 1: to Michael Giddinski's attention to get your signed on the mushroom?

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Speaker 4: Look, it was quite interesting. What happened was there was

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Speaker 4: Djo Yeah, yeah, well he was he was at sixty

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Speaker 4: and smith Would Smithy, the late Ian Smith who was

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Speaker 4: road manager for sid Rumpo originally when they went east,

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Speaker 4: and Smithy another East Free mettle boy, and he both

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Speaker 4: he and Gracie were telling Goodinski that they had to

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Speaker 4: sign me. And then I had this little eight track

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Speaker 4: live recording that we did at the Santon Park Hotel

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Speaker 4: these just did blank cassettes and sold them off to

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Speaker 4: was That was great for us because it meant that

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Speaker 4: places in the East, a lot of the bands in

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Speaker 4: those days, the roadies would hear tapes that they liked

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Speaker 4: and they'd play them through the po system before all

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Speaker 4: the main bands came on, So people were hearing our

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Speaker 4: live gigs. Yeah, created a kind of demand.

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Speaker 5: So it was it was really good timing for us.

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Speaker 3: With the exception of the Charles with its original carpet,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's not many of those places left, Dave,

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Speaker 3: you know, do you know the Shenton Park is now

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Speaker 3: a retirement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm aiming to go full circle to end up

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Speaker 4: It's quite sad, I suppose, but then again, most of

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Speaker 4: the people of my generation now probably prefer to sit

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Speaker 3: True, you've played with the likes of Men at Work, Midnight,

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Speaker 3: Oil in Excess, Dragon and Skyhooks. Who was the most

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Speaker 3: fun to play with? My money's on sky Skyhooks for

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Speaker 4: They were surely was great mates. And I became really

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Speaker 4: really good friends with Greg Greg mccainch from Skyhooks and

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Speaker 4: we've worked on stuff and work together. So they were terrific.

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Speaker 4: But look, the Dragon Boys were fun too, and all

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Speaker 4: those people were terrific. I didn't have I don't think

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Speaker 4: I've had any bad experiences I can think of with

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Speaker 4: the time, I played soccer with Men at Work. We

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Speaker 4: were playing soccer in Adelaide the day that Down Under

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Speaker 4: was released.

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Speaker 2: Really awesome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're staying at the same motel and kicking

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Speaker 4: the ball around with Colin Hayen. I said to him,

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Speaker 4: I said, look, I said, I reckon, this is going

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Speaker 4: to be the best buzzy singles since Friday on my

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Speaker 4: mind and I hope so.

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Speaker 2: Going to but he was at the Grammy. I just

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Speaker 2: took off from there, crazy and Lisa