WEBVTT - Laura had a baby!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome back to episode two of Life on Cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Britt and I am here with my co host

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<v Speaker 1>Laura's up. Guys, Look, it has been a pretty huge

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. Some big things have been happening. Laura, you

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<v Speaker 1>went away and had a little baby, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>kicked off online dating, so I feel like it's safe

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<v Speaker 1>to say we're both kicking some life goals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely been an eventful a few weeks, that is

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>We have so much to talk about today, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>for those that are just catching up. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks in between the last podcast that we recorded

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<v Speaker 1>because Laura did have to go and have a baby,

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<v Speaker 1>so we needed to put that on pause for a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. But I think we're four weeks post birth, is.

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<v Speaker 2>That right, Laura nowhere almost six weeks now. Mally's Mali

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<v Speaker 2>Nay is almost six weeks old, so six weeks. So

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<v Speaker 2>a lot has happened and we're definitely going to delve

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<v Speaker 2>into that. But before we do, have you seen the

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<v Speaker 2>Bachelor promos? I am obsessed, yess, I have seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>I spend my entire life on the couch now, so

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<v Speaker 2>I can't possibly have missed it. It looks amazing and

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait for this season to start.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, so I am irrationally jealous. Actually, it's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>even irrationally. It's rationally jealous because they look like they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the most epic things. I saw some flighter jets,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw some of the most romantic dates.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually gonna ask you how you felt about

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<v Speaker 2>the batch and whether you felt jealous about him being

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<v Speaker 2>the Bachelor, because, quite honestly, I think that that agnew,

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<v Speaker 2>that Matt and agnew. I think they've cast him so well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's going to be a brilliant bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, the number of people that messaged me saying why,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope please tell me you're an intruder on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but how do you feel like in comparison, do

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<v Speaker 2>you wish that you're in this season verse last season

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<v Speaker 2>or are you quite happy with how your story panned out.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe everything happens for a reason, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy with how my story panned out. Obviously, Nil and

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<v Speaker 1>I were not meant to be, and we'd Sophie and

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<v Speaker 1>I had this great story, you know that was women

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<v Speaker 1>supporting women and I love that, But how could you

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<v Speaker 1>not be jealous looking at doctor Matt. I'm jealous of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he genuinely looks like he's out for

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<v Speaker 1>love and he looks like he found it from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the promos they're saying that he says he loves her

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, And yeah, I think that with this series,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get back to our traditional love story

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that they haven't gone for their celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>they have gone back to their original sort of storyboard

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<v Speaker 1>where they've found an exceptional, normal person. Well that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a celebrity. He's looking for love. He is intelligent,

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<v Speaker 1>he seems lovely. I just feel like they wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>cast somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't absolutely and he's a real Australian bachelet like

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<v Speaker 2>he has. He ticks all the boxes, he's got everything

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<v Speaker 2>going for himself. He's the sort of guy that if

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<v Speaker 2>you met him in the real world, you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy is amazing. Yeah, that's what the Bachelor's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And I love that. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was always going to happen, but I love that

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<v Speaker 1>they put the slow mow ripping the shirt off, running

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<v Speaker 1>down the beach, mat on the ad hostly panning up

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<v Speaker 1>from the ads. He's got his oil on, he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>on points. I actually watched that and thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>such a Maddy J promo, Like I did it for

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<v Speaker 1>Nick too. It's just identical. Put her shirt on, no,

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<v Speaker 1>take it off, leave it off. I think they're brilliant promos.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was hooked. I was like, dang, I'm shorty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they really have gone back to the original storyboard with

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Just oil them up and throw them on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach. That's it. Anyway, I think well done. Well

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<v Speaker 1>done to the casting them mat there. But a few

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I wanted to talk about. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just chat about how I got kicked off bumble

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into you having the baby. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about my life event. Oh yeah, Britt, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>your life events. What's been happening, babe? Come at me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I finally went back on online dating. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a year. Everyone said you need to get back on

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<v Speaker 1>there because people don't approach we in real life anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't. Actually, I was talking to a really good

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<v Speaker 2>friend just recently who's a publican. And people don't even

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<v Speaker 2>go out anymore. People don't socialize in the way that

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<v Speaker 2>we used to because we used to go out for

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<v Speaker 2>the purpose of trying to meet someone, and now that's

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<v Speaker 2>all done online.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've seen people out at the bar before swiping

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<v Speaker 1>on Tinder. Yeah, and I was like, dude, look up,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a babe right next year. Easier than wait, were

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<v Speaker 1>you the babe? Or obviously if I head out, look

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<v Speaker 1>at me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just easier than having to socialize and being rejected

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<v Speaker 2>in real life. I think being rejected on a screen

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<v Speaker 2>is far less of a blow to the ego than

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<v Speaker 2>going up to someone and them saying no, sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you to buy me a drink. We just

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to socialize in the same way anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is true. So what was your experience. You

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<v Speaker 1>were back on Bumble. So I finally went back on Bumble,

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<v Speaker 1>Like just say, late afternoon, one's fine Winter's day, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up in the morning and I tell you what,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's Christmas. I'm like, oh, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to log on and see who's has some matches.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so pumped. I don't know why anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>open up the app and it's like, good morning, Brittany,

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<v Speaker 1>you have been kicked off Bumble. Wow, Like, what the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>What could I have possibly done in twelve hour? It

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<v Speaker 1>was all the naked photos you put on there again,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it? It was the nude photos. Yeah, okay, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>think that I would get your VIP but it doesn't. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. Bumble's really about a respectful platform, No, Dick PI,

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<v Speaker 1>well done, Bumble. No. Apparently too many people in that

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours had reported me as a fake profile, like,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sad on multiple levels because a they're saying, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Britney wouldn't be on here, but I really am. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm the I got kicked off, so I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even online date if I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually love Bumble. So did you see that we

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<v Speaker 2>had a fake profile? I had a past recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Your profile was your whole family, which is so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyone who does it, No, and he doesn't follow

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<v Speaker 2>my Instagram. I was notified by one of my followers

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<v Speaker 2>that I had a profile on Bumble, which is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>strange considering I've just had a baby and I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>A pretty happy relationship. And it was a person named Troy,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight years old in Hey Troe, Yeah, in the

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<v Speaker 1>gold hose with her photo of my entire family. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even I didn't even notify Bumble. I just

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<v Speaker 1>put up on my stories as a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>laugh because I thought it was it was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a joke, and Bumble actually got in touch with me.

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<v Speaker 1>They got in touch firstly to ask me if I

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<v Speaker 1>had any more information about the profile, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>respond to them. I was just a bit busy doing

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<v Speaker 1>mum life. And then they contacted me again a few

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<v Speaker 1>days later and said that they had found the profile

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<v Speaker 1>with absolutely no further information from me except for a screenshot,

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<v Speaker 1>and they removed it and if there was ever something

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<v Speaker 1>like this in the future, just to let them know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought that was absolutely amazing, the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of effort they go to to try and control their platform.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is. I think it's brilliant. Firstly, Troy,

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<v Speaker 1>what were you thinking, No one's going to want to

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<v Speaker 1>go and date a whole family. Yeah, I just keep

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<v Speaker 1>it realistic. If you're getting cat fish, I ain't. No

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<v Speaker 1>one want to date me when I've got a five

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<v Speaker 1>week old baby. That is too much baggage. No, but

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, I wasn't even going to chase it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, well back to the drawing board.

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<v Speaker 1>But my girlfriend, Renee, she said, look, I know the

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<v Speaker 1>people at Bumble. You've got to get back on there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, no, I don't worry. So she just

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<v Speaker 1>went a message them on my behalf God lover and

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<v Speaker 1>they fixed it up straight away. They contacted me and

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<v Speaker 1>they apologized and they thought, look, we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>protect people. There are and there are fake profiles of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>So and they rectified that. They actually put me back

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<v Speaker 1>on there straight away. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think I mean, obviously I'm not online dating

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think at the moment I didn't even think of that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not online dating and have no intention of doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Space a new paragraph the end, I just think the

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<v Speaker 2>Bumble and this is in no way a bumble ad.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the Bumble has created such a such

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<v Speaker 2>a great community in comparison to a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>other online dating sites, and I think that they really

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<v Speaker 2>do show that they care about the profiles and the

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<v Speaker 2>people that are within their community by taking actions like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember any of the other online dating apps

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<v Speaker 2>taking things that seriously or being that quick to.

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<v Speaker 1>Action, And there's a reason I'm not on Tinder or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that because of that reason. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Tinder now is just like a swipe for sex thing.

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<v Speaker 1>People have sort of categorized that as that as a

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<v Speaker 1>hookup ap and I think bumble and there's this new

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<v Speaker 1>one hinge. I think they're taking it a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more seriously for people to actually want to date.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that they've They've changed the culture a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of what online dating is. And also bumble

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<v Speaker 2>with having bumble business and bumble friends call.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they're really I love that. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>think it's so sad that people can't go and make

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<v Speaker 1>a friend anymore just at the bar, right at the

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<v Speaker 1>beach or through a friend, like where we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to have friends online? Do you think though, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think as well. I mean when we say that

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<v Speaker 2>the online dating culture is changing about how we approach

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<v Speaker 2>people in a bar, I think it's also really difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to just approach a female and be like, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>new to this area, I don't have any friends, because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know where that person's at in their own

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<v Speaker 2>personal journey, and when you get to a certain age,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I don't have enough time to make new

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<v Speaker 2>friends and to put effort into that, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>think it be incredibly hard for people who have relocated

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<v Speaker 2>to make friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that having lived in so many different countries.

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<v Speaker 1>I have actually used Tinder because I never had this

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<v Speaker 1>friendship part. So I've been using Tinder and made friends

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<v Speaker 1>and I have friends all around the world from Tinder. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was on Tinder, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>quite a few moons ago now, and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>girl who had on her profile she was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a lesbian. I'm not looking for a sexual relationship

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<v Speaker 2>at all. I'm just new to this area and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>finding it incredibly difficult to make friends. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>think this profile is weird, please swept swipe past, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're also in a similar situation, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to meet up for a coffee or drink.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where it's obviously stemmed from. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's great the Bumble has taken the initiative and

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<v Speaker 1>created that, yeahs acually a network. Also, I just read

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<v Speaker 1>something that I wanted to comment on I literally read

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<v Speaker 1>this this morning. But Natalie and Burulia is pregnant. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've heard that. I did. She's having

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<v Speaker 1>a baby. Yeah, And I just wanted to comment on

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<v Speaker 1>this because she is forty four, I believe, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has gone and done that on her own, with IVF

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<v Speaker 1>and a sperm donor, and she's happily said that she's

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<v Speaker 1>open about it. She said she's not going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>in depth about it, but there's a big sort of

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<v Speaker 1>conversation going on about that. My immediate thought when I

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<v Speaker 1>read that was you go, girl, good on you. You

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<v Speaker 1>want a baby, you go get your baby. You go

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<v Speaker 1>get your baby. But there is this I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you read it about there are some people commenting

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe I did see the Telegraphs article which was

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<v Speaker 1>said I am torn about Natalie Umbrella's decision to have

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, no pun intended. I think it's pretty incredible

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<v Speaker 1>that we live in a day and age where women

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<v Speaker 1>can pursue their careers, or they can prioritize other aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of their life and then the decision to have a

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<v Speaker 1>baby can come later in life. I do also think

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<v Speaker 1>that it does run us risks, but so does everything

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<v Speaker 1>in life high risk Curreton. If you want to put

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<v Speaker 1>your career first, which I have done in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, go for it, so long as you understand

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<v Speaker 1>that there is the possibility that maybe you will be

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<v Speaker 1>raising a child on your own, or maybe you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>making that decision for yourself. But if that's where you're

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<v Speaker 1>at at that point in your life, the medical tools

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<v Speaker 1>are out there for people to make those decisions, definitely,

0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.079
<v Speaker 1>And there are so many risks that come with aging pregnancies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they actually call them geriatric pregnancies after age.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, they really say almost from thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four on now is where it's risks increase.

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<v Speaker 2>For those who don't know. Brick works in the medical world,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's a little bit more knowledge on this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>than I do, despite the fact that I've had Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are procedures that we actually do that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think a lot of people even know. When people

0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.000
<v Speaker 1>are having problems falling pregnant, they will come in and

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a colloquial term, but we literally flush

0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.720
<v Speaker 1>out their tubes. We do things like that. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like clearing the path for the spurs getting the plumbing ready,

0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.040
<v Speaker 1>getting the plumbing ready. So there are so many things

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<v Speaker 1>to do to help people for pregnant and to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you do have a healthy pregnancy. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have to know, women now are working so much longer

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<v Speaker 1>and prioritizing everything else before having a baby, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all for that. I'm thirty two. I don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>a baby is in my future, but there are there

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<v Speaker 1>are things to help you achieve that now. But we

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<v Speaker 1>also do need to be aware, as much as it sucks,

0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.679
<v Speaker 1>we have a biological clock and so we have to

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<v Speaker 1>accept that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do think it's important if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>have kids, to have your timeline and to know what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to achieve in life, because it's very easy

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<v Speaker 2>for time to get away from you and to go

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<v Speaker 2>from thirty two to thirty seven to forty four and

0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.599
<v Speaker 2>think I thought I would have children by now, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've been caught up in this world of work and career.

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<v Speaker 2>And so long as that work and career is giving

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<v Speaker 2>you fulfillment and happiness and that you are on the

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<v Speaker 2>trajectory that you want, not just that you've been caught

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<v Speaker 2>by time, which I think it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and that's a sad thing because sometimes you're

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<v Speaker 1>not in control of your situation. If you haven't met

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<v Speaker 1>the right person, you might be trying, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not much you can do about that. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>also obviously the fact for Natalie Brouley. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 1>was married for five years and she's had a long

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<v Speaker 1>term relationship, but it didn't it didn't happen for in

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<v Speaker 1>that instance. And now she's been able to take that

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<v Speaker 1>into her own hands and to be able to have

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<v Speaker 1>the baby that she wants. I think it's incredible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I'm excited to watch that journey. So, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of pregnancies, before we go and jump into the question

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<v Speaker 1>and answer with you and your journey, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what the hell is in the bachelor water because

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<v Speaker 1>batchy babies are popping up everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's having babies. We've had Sam and Snares. They have

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<v Speaker 2>just had their baby, Charlie Lane Wood.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that name, by the way. It's beautiful, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually had Charlie as one of my girl's names

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<v Speaker 2>and Matt vetoed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep saying, Matt Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I guess it wouldn't have happened, but Matt, Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Peter had boast of my girl names, Marley May was

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<v Speaker 2>the only one that kind of stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Lisa Hyde, who was in Batch and Paradise

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<v Speaker 2>as well the first season about you in Paradise. She

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<v Speaker 2>has had her little baby, which is my Annie Kalina.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, lovely name, long name. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so another little girl. Yeah, and hers is hyphenated too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all down for a hyphenad name.

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<v Speaker 1>Go the heih so for it. Three babies in the

0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.400
<v Speaker 1>space of a month is pretty amazing, and all girls. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a testament to say that that there is

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<v Speaker 1>something in the bachelortt that does work. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know where I find it. Thanks. No, look

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<v Speaker 1>so I do. I don't think I've even said it

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<v Speaker 1>on air yet. But Laura, you made a little, tiny,

0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.280
<v Speaker 1>beautiful human that looks ridiculously like you, So congratulations. I

0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.040
<v Speaker 1>did not make her on my own. Thank you very much,

0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Johnson for your contribution to this. No, but she

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, I don't know if anyone has seen

0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the little pictures. You have kept it quite quiet. You've

0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.720
<v Speaker 1>released a few little pictures on your stories. You put

0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.040
<v Speaker 1>pictures and things like that, but she looks so much

0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like you. We've been pretty open with like sharing our

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<v Speaker 1>photos and stuff of Marley. I guess I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been quite about is more around the birth and

0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.000
<v Speaker 1>your story. Yeah, and not for any big reason others.

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<v Speaker 1>And it kind of took me a while to just

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<v Speaker 1>get over the birth myself and understand what that is

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<v Speaker 1>and deal with my own feelings about it and enjoy

0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Marley for her and not be caught up in all

0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that She's She's amazing, She's so beautiful. Marlie May Rose,

0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Marley May Rose. When did that name come? Was the

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<v Speaker 1>Rose any? Please say it wasn't anything to do with about

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<v Speaker 1>Please tell me Rose is not a nod to The

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor unfortunately, sorry, Osha. Rose is Matt's grandma's name, So

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<v Speaker 1>May is my grandma's name. Rose is Matt's. Marley is

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<v Speaker 1>also not from Marley and Me the Dog movie, which

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<v Speaker 1>everyone keeps asking, I just love the name Marley and Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Matt got Johnson and so I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put my foot down early on and I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the last name, so I get to pick

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<v Speaker 2>the first name.

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<v Speaker 1>You're also pushing out of your vagina, so that gives

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<v Speaker 1>you some leaping.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, Yeah, I had some leverage there, so I

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<v Speaker 2>chose Marley, but Matt was on board. He loved it

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and now I think we both just adore

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<v Speaker 2>her name.

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<v Speaker 1>She's oh gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a crazy, wonderful experience having a newborn baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Bless you. Although I haven't slept so I might just

0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.120
<v Speaker 1>be high on Seriously. Yeah, I do get a message

0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.880
<v Speaker 1>saying sorry, Hannah, I'm running five minutes late because Miley's

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<v Speaker 1>been screaming for six hours straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that's There's been a couple of nights

0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.360
<v Speaker 2>been difficult, but I think that's just the newborn. It's

0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.080
<v Speaker 2>just newborn, just taking it one day at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, let's go back to the start, because

0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you actually have been really quiet on the birth story,

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<v Speaker 1>which I like. I like that you guys took some

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<v Speaker 1>time to keep a private and a little bit something

0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that was special to you for a while. But I

0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.320
<v Speaker 1>think you're at the point now where you're happy to

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<v Speaker 1>share it. If you are, I'm noting to extract some

0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.640
<v Speaker 1>things from you. Yes, come at me, Come at me, bray,

0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.240
<v Speaker 1>come at you. Firstly, before we get right right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>All I want to know is from one to ten,

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<v Speaker 1>with ten being I want to die right now. How

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<v Speaker 1>painful was the birth? Oh? Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually hate saying this because there's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>women who are listening to this who are about to

0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.280
<v Speaker 2>have their own babies, and that's just such a shitty

0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.440
<v Speaker 2>thing to do to a new mum.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so that's your warning. If you're listening now and

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<v Speaker 1>you're having a baby. Tap out. No, yeah, yes, stop listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what? They don't call it labor for

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<v Speaker 1>no reason. It is definitely very painful, although everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>a very different pain threshold, and I think because I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually induced, I didn't go into a spontaneous labor,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think if you go into spontaneous labor, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very different labor story than what I experienced. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say it was right at the brink of

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<v Speaker 1>my pain threshold. Like I wanted to originally do a

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.160
<v Speaker 1>natural birth, that was my great intention, but I ended

0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.359
<v Speaker 1>up having to opt for an epidural just because I

0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:48.480
<v Speaker 1>couldn't manage my pain expectations. However, like everyone says, once

0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.320
<v Speaker 1>that baby's out, it's actually amazing how euphoric you feel.

0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.359
<v Speaker 1>The pain just goes away, all of it instantly, instantly. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I just kin'd even begin to imagine. It's really incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of like, get our backstory on what happened

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<v Speaker 1>so well, you were over Yeah, I was two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>overdue with Marley, and they really only let you go

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.480
<v Speaker 1>to two weeks now because the issue with going over

0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.719
<v Speaker 1>any more than that is your placenta has a use

0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.800
<v Speaker 1>by date basically, like think of it like a carton

0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of milk. It has an expiration on it, and if

0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that expiration happens, there's an increased risk of still birth.

0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.760
<v Speaker 1>So it can be really really detrimental to go any

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<v Speaker 1>further than two weeks. So we pushed it right to

0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the limits, and then we were booked in to be induced.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of a weird experience. I think if

0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you're booked in for a C section or you're booked

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<v Speaker 1>in for an induction because you don't have this oh

0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.080
<v Speaker 1>my waters broke, Oh I'm in labor, like, let's get

0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.359
<v Speaker 1>to the hospital, which kind of seems a bit romantic.

0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.960
<v Speaker 1>As part of the story, we were very much like, okay,

0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I know, that I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the doctors at nine am or seven am tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got my bag packed. It's a weird thing that

0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you like planned it, Yeah, you know what's happening, And.

0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Totally it was really methodical. And so we got to

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the hospital. I mean we were running late, because Matt

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.320
<v Speaker 2>can't be on time for anything, even.

0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Though you were running two weeks later already, I was

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.879
<v Speaker 1>two weeks late, and yet I was still waiting in

0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the car for Matt to get his bag. Get your

0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.720
<v Speaker 1>shit together, I know. I love the man.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to the hospital and the way that it

0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.480
<v Speaker 2>works when you're being induced is they they actually manually

0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.439
<v Speaker 2>break your waters with a plastic hook. So I was

0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:31.400
<v Speaker 2>hooked up to a drip given some synthetic oxytocin, which

0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:32.360
<v Speaker 2>is what brings.

0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.920
<v Speaker 1>On the labor. Sounds brilliant, yeah, And then they broke

0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.000
<v Speaker 1>my waters with a plastic hook, and so I waited

0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital to go into labor. And the thing

0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.920
<v Speaker 1>with being induced is that and this I didn't actually

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.520
<v Speaker 1>know this until the time. Some women still have normal

0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.159
<v Speaker 1>contractions where they're contractions. You'll have one contraction that might

0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.600
<v Speaker 1>last a minute, and then you have several minutes between

0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the contraction, which allows you to kind of compose yourself

0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and to breathe and get back on top of the

0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>pain and get ready for the next contraction. I didn't

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.360
<v Speaker 1>have that, unfortunately. I just had one never ending contraction,

0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.679
<v Speaker 1>So I couldn't get on top of the pain at all.

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 1>How long? Just for just over an hour?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like it just just wasn't stopping, And so it

0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 2>was really really difficult to manage the pain and manage

0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.400
<v Speaker 2>my expectations around how I was going to do six

0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.160
<v Speaker 2>hours or eight hours or twenty four hours. I didn't

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:26.399
<v Speaker 2>know how long I was going to be in labor for.

0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:31.200
<v Speaker 2>So I ended up opting to have an epidural. Holy shit,

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:36.639
<v Speaker 2>epi durols are so great. They are great. It was

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.359
<v Speaker 2>like night and day. So we went from having me

0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.959
<v Speaker 2>over the side of the bed being sick, unable to speak,

0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.199
<v Speaker 2>to sitting up and having a full blown conversation with

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 2>everyone that was in the room and laughed for making jokes.

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And oh, if you need to ender, I couldn't. Yeah, sorry,

0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.360
<v Speaker 1>my phone's just ringing now. It's probably Matt telling Yeah,

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 1>you need to get home when your breast feed, when

0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.119
<v Speaker 1>you've got a baby. You need to have your phone already,

0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>have your phone on silence. No, I just asked Matt

0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.879
<v Speaker 1>quickly to breastfeeder so himself. I mean, he's been a

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:09.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty good hands on dad so fast, so I'm sure

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.800
<v Speaker 1>he'd give it a crack anyway. So yeah, look, it was.

0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.679
<v Speaker 1>It was not what I expected my labor to be,

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.119
<v Speaker 1>and having an epidural definitely made it far more manageable.

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:21.560
<v Speaker 1>That was for sure. Well, I think you hear that

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:23.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I have a lot of friends actually that

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.719
<v Speaker 1>have these big expectations and his birth plan on what's

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.199
<v Speaker 1>going to happen, how it's going to go down, and

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't work like that. I'm actually so glad

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't have a birth plan and I didn't.

0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't go to any birthing classes. I didn't go

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.359
<v Speaker 1>to any breastfeeding class. Was what was the prep, like

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Patti prep for a baby? Do you actually go to

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:44.680
<v Speaker 1>these classes and do the bouncing on the ball thing

0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and like Matt pretends to pull football out of you,

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think that people do, and you

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:50.240
<v Speaker 1>know what, but you didn't do anything.

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't do any of them. And like props

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 2>to people who do, because I do think that it

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 2>would make you more mentally prepared. But I guess I

0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 2>really didn't want to have any expectation around the birth,

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't want to get hung up on how

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I wanted it to be, which, in my instance, I'm

0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:08.160
<v Speaker 2>really glad that I didn't do that purely because it's

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have the birth that I would have wanted.

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>If I was to sit down and say, you know,

0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>this is my ideal type of birth, being induced, wasn't it, Well, yeah,

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and then you run the risk of having this your

0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.679
<v Speaker 1>expectations on your expectations are met, so you have this

0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:28.640
<v Speaker 1>intense disappointment, and you don't want that to translate when

0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you have the baby into these like sort of ill

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.840
<v Speaker 1>feelings of I failed or I didn't do it, because

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I think people feel like they failed when they don't

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.680
<v Speaker 1>give a natural birth. But God, if you can just

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 1>get that baby out safely in any way, I don't

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 1>think it matters. It's okay for some people to have

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a birth plan, and it's totally okay to have strong

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 1>feelings about how you want your birth to go because

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.919
<v Speaker 1>it's such an important and pivotal experience. That's only going

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to happen, you know, one, two, maybe three or four

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.719
<v Speaker 1>times if you've got a lot of kids in your life.

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.679
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it depends on your personality types. Some

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 1>people do need to feel like they have more control

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 1>over situation. I'm not that person.

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually I do better without trying to control things

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and just kind of going with the flow a little bit.

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 2>So for me it worked. Not going to any birth classes.

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 2>We had amazing midwives at the hospital who talked me

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 2>through everything.

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Anyway. But as much as being induced wasn't the experience

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted, it was still an incredible birth. And

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>it was you know that moment where where your baby

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>comes out and they put her on your chest. I

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>couldn't imagine. I couldn't have imagined it either. It's just

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the most incredible experience. And so was she correct me

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>if I'm wrong, But I feel like she was backwards,

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 1>upside down inside out. She wasn't sitting right, was she

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to come out? Yeah? No she wasn't.

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't breach, but she was posterious, so she was

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 2>upside down basically, So what it.

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Means the bottom first? No, no, no other way. So

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 1>basically she was facing the right way, like she was down,

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>but it means usually their back would be facing your stomach,

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>so that's a much more comfortable way to give birth.

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>But when they are posterior, it means that their spine

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>is against your spine and they're trying to come out

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 1>with the biggest part of their head first. So she

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>got stuck and they couldn't, and the middle life were

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 1>actually being so supportive. I'd been pushing for god, what

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>feels like my entire life, and they're like, you're doing

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:27.640
<v Speaker 1>so good. She's coming down. Get it out. Yeah, she's

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 1>coming down. She's coming down. And I was like, it

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like she's moving, and they're like, no, no,

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you're doing so good. She's definitely coming down. She'd been

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>stuck for forty five minutes, so she was aime. She

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.919
<v Speaker 1>wasn't moving anywhere, poor thing. So yeah, she ended up.

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 2>I ended up having to have an episiotomy and she

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 2>was suctioned out, which.

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Sounds which sounds very romantic. Yeah, look, it's not. What's

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that old horrible saying, Oh, it's like watching my favorite

0:24:55.920 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>pub burned down. Every time that's saying oh, every time

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I am I hearing men say that, I just want

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>to slap them. It's yeah, look it's there's nothing romantic

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>about it. But everything goes back, ladies. Everything It's amazing,

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>does it?

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>So normal against back in. Yes, we're built for this shit.

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>It's great. Honestly, I am absolutely amazed at what the

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 1>body can do. Well, you know what is amazing and

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy to think about. But back in the day,

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy to think that you guys might not have

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>survived and so many mothers and babies if that baby

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in perfect position and totally people just didn't survive

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 1>their pregnancies, which is so we should be so grateful

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.679
<v Speaker 1>for modern medicine and everything that allows us to have

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 1>a healthy birth right now. Well, childbirth used to be

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the biggest killer of women. That was it.

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 2>It was such risky business having a baby because if

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>anything went wrong, they didn't have the tools.

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Hemorrhage, bleed out, baby couldn't get out. If you're having

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>a baby, don't even listen to that. That's awful. Now,

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I know I took back hundreds of years ago, okay,

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>but now, honestly, they'll send you home four hours afterwards

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>if you have a normal vaginal delivery and there's no complications.

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Four hours after giving birth you can leave the hospital.

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>My girlfriend had a water berth up in bayn Bay

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>in the bath and literally it was I've seen the

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 1>photos and it was beautiful. Popped it out, got dressed, ChIL,

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>dried her hair and walked out the door. Went home.

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. I was like, you're at not we stayed.

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.719
<v Speaker 2>So I had Maley at four fifty I think I

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 2>am not a pmpmm in the afternoon and the labor

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 2>was only about six six hours, so it was pretty

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>quick birth really. So I had at four fifty pm

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and I was out of hospital by eleven am the

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>next day. So I spent one night, which is amazing. Yeah,

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't even want to spend that. The only

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>reason why I had to spend that was because of

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 2>having some stitches. But I was happy to go home

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to be in my own space. I

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 2>think that there's something really nice about being if you

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>have the help.

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I was really lucky. I had Matt's mum helping me,

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.719
<v Speaker 1>that's right. So we had that at home. It's quieter,

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not being woken up by other people's babies. It's

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>really different to get sleep in the ward. So I

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>felt better being in my own space, whereas I think

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>some people feel much better knowing that they've got help

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>close by. Yeah, I've heard some people say that, you know,

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>they were in for quite a few days and they

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't really want to go home because they were scared

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>to be on their own and they didn't know what

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's crazy. You just you have this baby. You

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>have no tools as to how to take care of it. Like, sure,

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 2>read the books, read all the books. What is that even?

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>You know that eats? You're real, Like that is not real,

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>any of it?

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, you get home, you have this whole human

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>that you have to take care of and you have

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>to breastfeed it and make sure that it's getting enough nutrient. Yeah,

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>and babies lose weight after they've just been born. Marley

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 2>actually lost more than ten percent of her birth weight,

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 2>which is not They're supposed to lose less than that.

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 2>They lose up to ten percent. If they lose more

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>than that, then it could be maybe a problem with

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 2>your milk flow or they're not they're just not getting

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>enough nutrients. Mary had lost more than ten percent and

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>just gave me this such a feeling of I just

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>felt so defeated and I felt so useless and like

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't doing good enough job, and I was so

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>fearful that what I was doing was wrong. But you're

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>just learning as you go. You're just figuring it out

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 2>in our life, isn't it totally? And now like at

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the six week or five week and a bit mark,

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel so much more confident and I'm like.

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, over your shoulder and off, yeah, And I.

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Think it takes it takes a while to get that

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>confidence back and be able to leave the house and

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 2>be like no, no, no, I got this, Yeah, Mama, God,

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>and you.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>So have this. So in your birth obviously Matt was

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>in there. Who do you have anyone else in there? Like?

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Was your family in there at all?

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I had my sister in there with me, and I

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 2>also had Matt's mum in there with me as well,

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>so I had the three of them, which was so nice.

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I asked my own mum if she wanted to come in,

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and she sort of said it wasn't really her cup

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>of tea.

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh really, But you know what, it's not for everyone.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not for everyone. Matt's one of five, and his

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>mum is such a maternal, wonderful woman, and she just

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>loves everything to do with babies, and so for me,

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I was I was really happy having her in there.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>So were they like really heads down in the action there?

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Were they watching it happen or did they just stay

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>up sort of next to your head? I always wonder

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>did I get down there in between the legs and

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>see it all happening? Oh? Look, I mean it's all

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>on show. If you want to go down there and

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>have a look.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Matt was pretty care No, not at all, Like and

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>by the time you get to that point in labor,

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>you do not care.

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You know. The whole time I was thinking, God, I

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want to pool in front of everyone. But then

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>by the time I actually everyone poos, don't they That's

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>what I heard. I didn't, so that was okay. But

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>great every there you go to.

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 3>The world, you are welcome. I guess, like prior to

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 3>I was so concerned about that. I was like, oh God,

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 3>how embarrassing. Matt's mum's gonna see this. You know what

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 3>cares when you get in there, you don't care about anything. Honestly,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 3>they could have been entire football team in there, and

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't I wouldn't have given a crap at all.

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, literally, given a crap. Literally there was no craps

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to give. You were so funny there. So how was

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Matt in there? Is he like a fainter feels queasy

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>or was he really supportive and fine loved it or no?

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>He was amazing.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean he stayed at the top end the whole time,

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 2>but he was really really supportive. There was one point

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>during the label where I.

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Had like music playing, not any music track that I

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>picked or anything, but there was just ambient music paying

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the background, and I was having a contraction and Matt

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>was holding my hand and singing like along to this

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 1>edseurance and I was like, shot the fuck up, shut up.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't so much pain. I couldn't tell him

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to shut up. You just want complete silence. And it

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>was so distracting having him being like he's having a ground.

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh god, I could have killed him. But anyway,

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 2>that was the only thing. And he realized straight away,

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>like you just don't.

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Must be hard for them, not knowing well, like they

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>can't help you, they can't help and it's such a

0:30:56.120 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>personal and like animalistic process where on doesn't matter who's

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>in the room. I didn't think they did anyway. And

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you see, it's funny growing up and in all the

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>movies you see birth as you know, a woman laying

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>on her back, legs up in the stirrups gently being like, ah,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>pushing a baby out. But realistically, how did Marley come out?

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>We like lunging, squatting on all four O my position? Yeah,

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like literally the position, because it's not what people think

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like usually. I think squatting is the most That's

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>what I've read out they say, they say, actually try

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and get gravity to help, right, Yeah, but I because

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>she was stark and I had to have a pisiotomy,

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I was in stirrups, so I probably looked very much

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>like your tradition grow up expectations.

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I looked like a movie scene.

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Was the wind blowing in your hair like a car crash? No?

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>It was. Yeah, So I think it like if I

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>was to think of what a traditional birthing video or

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>video sorry movie look like, it was like that. Okay,

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, god, it's weird to think back on it now,

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>even honestly, you just forget your brain just does this

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>amazing thing. Where as soon as it's over, it's like

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and they just erased that part of it. So what

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>was the hardest part of the whole if you had

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to say, of being pregnant or the birth, what did

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you find hardest out of the whole thing? Was it

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>just literally getting her out? No, I think the hardest

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>part was probably a little bit after. I think week

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>number two was probably my hardest period. And you know,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you have this euphoria after having the baby, and after

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.959
<v Speaker 1>having Molly it was so amazing, and then the first

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit of time you get so much help from

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>family and friends and stuff. And at about the two

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>week markets when that help kind of dips off a

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit, life goes back to normal. Yeah, and it's

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>still I think that you're very, very uncomfortable afterwards. I

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>was extremely uncomfortable afterwards, and so just doing day to

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>day stuff was really difficult around the house, and then

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>also navigating having no sleep that sleep debt catches up

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>on you and not being able to sort of like

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>have you know. I just felt like such a shell

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of a person at the two week mark because I

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>was still in a lot of discomfort and I was

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>so shattered tired. So I think that that was probably

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>my biggest hurdle. And you know, unfortunately, so many women

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>suffer from postinatal depression, and I guess that's probably when

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it starts, is when all the help goes and they

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>realize that they're on their own, and I feel like

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>they probably get overwhelmed. But you've been Yeah, how have

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you been with that? I think as well with I mean,

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't have postonatal depression, so I think it's difficult

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to comment on something that I haven't experienced. But I

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>think that there's also a disconnect with people who suffer

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>from postnatal depression. You know, you get told that as

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>soon as you have this baby, there's going to be

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a flood of love and you're just going to instantly

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>feel so in love with your child, and that doesn't

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>happen for everyone. Sometimes that flood of love comes a

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit later. And I actually know that for some

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>men that's the case is well, and people don't really

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about like postnatal depression for men. A few good

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>friends of mine actually spoke to me about it from

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>their perspective, dads saying, you know they didn't have that

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>flood of love to start with, and that it came

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>it was almost like they fell in love with their child. Well,

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess they don't have They don't grow it for

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>nine months and form the same bond. They're sort of

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>just waiting for nine months for it to come out

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and then they then it starts. Whereas you as a

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>woman have grown it and that connection, well you're supposed

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to or ideally you feel that connection, but you know,

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that some people it's they don't straight away

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and then that does grow later on, which is also

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>normal and fine if that happened, absolutely, And there's so

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>much help out there now that we understand what that

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is and we have a name for it, and we

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>have it's a hormonal imbalance. We have the tools to

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>treat people who have that. Yeah, and I think women

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>feel like their failures and they feel like something's wrong

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 1>with them, but it's not. And it's so easy now

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to go and seek hell or just speak to a friend,

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>or they can even think that maybe they've made the

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>wrong decision. I mean, it's such a life changing event.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Every single part of your identity as a woman changes

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>once you have a baby, and I think that that

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>has been difficult for even me to get my head around.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>And I don't suffer from postnatal depression knowing that I'm

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>not able every single part of my day, I have

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>to think what am I going to do for Marley?

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>How is Maley going to fit into my day? Whereas

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Matt can still get up, he can still go to

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the gym, he can still go to all work meeting,

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>he still has so much autonomy from Marley because she's

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>not dependent on his every move and his everything, whereas

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I and every time she cries or every time that

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>there's something that's wrong with her, it's my instinctive nature

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to be like, issue, Okay, go and get my baby.

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>So it really just changes for a woman much more

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>rapidly than it does for the father. I think well,

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>in our episode one, actually we touched on the fact

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't really or you weren't going to get

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>maternity leavers such that you had to go back and

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>run your business, and you had these really high expectations

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>of how you were going to do that, and how

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>now that you've done it, it's we're six weeks yere.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>How have you been finding that? Have you gone back

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>to work as such, I'm an idiot. That's what I

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>had to say about that.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I am an idiot, a big fool. I have started

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 2>back at work, like I have started doing work. I'm

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 2>not going into the office per se. It's really really

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 2>difficult because I've realized that my my schedule is not

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the same as Marley's schedule, and newborn babies need to

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>have sort of four hour blocks of sleep or three

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>hour blocks of sleep sounds their own environment, though they can't.

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 2>You can't just or I can't with Marley anyway, maybe

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 2>every baby's different. I can't just strap her on me

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>and then go to work and chuck her in the

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 2>car and then chuck her in the prem and like

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>move her around because she gets unsettled, and then her

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>sleep debt racks up. And so I get to eight

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 2>pm at night, and that's when I've called you, and

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>she's been sc and she's just ropable because she's not

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>had the sleep that she needs. And she's such a

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>newborn baby that she doesn't have the mental capacity to understand, oh,

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 2>i'm tired, go to sleep. She's just so overtired that

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 2>she'll cry and cry and cry untill eleven pm, so.

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing. You can do nothing. She doesn't have colleague,

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong, she's fed, her nappy's changed. But it's

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>just this sleep debt that and this routine that I'm

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>trying to get my head around. And so as much

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>as I want to get back into doing work and

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>as much as when you run your own business, it's

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>really important to kind of have that to go back to.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>It's been so much harder than what I thought it

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>was going to be to juggle those two things. And

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>work is one hundred percent the part that's going to

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>suffer and is suffering now. It comes down to Matt

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 1>playing a bigger role in like taking her away for

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.479
<v Speaker 1>those three hour blocks in order to give me time

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>to do the work that I need to do well.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Even like now we're recording this, it's eight thirty in

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>the morning, but you know, you fed Marley and then

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 1>he's got her for a few hours and then you

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>go straight back total and this. That's nice that you

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:03.479
<v Speaker 1>have that help.

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think a lot of women do. I

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of women you know that husbands have

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>to go or partners have to go, or have to

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 2>go back to work, and there's one person whose life

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>changes so dramatically and so quickly, while the other person's life,

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 2>as much as it does change, they still have the

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 2>ability to tap into their friendship groups and get some

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 2>me time outside of just being a mum or a dad.

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 2>And I guess that that's the biggest thing that I'm

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 2>sort of adjusting to now, is I am a mom

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seven. And I know you know that

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 2>when you're pregnant, but you don't know until you know.

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>You don't know until you know, and until you're experiencing it,

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's really really different and it's a massive identity shift. Yeah, Well,

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>there was something else I wanted to talk about that

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually have listened to you talk about in the past,

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was really intrigued by it and I took

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>my hat off to you for being open about it.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>But you actually suffered a miscarriage before this pregnancy, and

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that you spoke about that so that women

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.919
<v Speaker 1>don't know a that they're on their own. Women feel

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>like they're on their own in that, but it is,

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it happens. But did that impact this pregnancy? Did that

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>like put the fear into you or change the way

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you led your life because you were trying to protect

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:20.919
<v Speaker 1>this baby. Yeah, massively, So I guess starts with Matt

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and I were pretty open about talking about our miscarriage

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>before Maley, not as a well as me or anything

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like that, just because we didn't want to announce this

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy and for everyone to think, oh, it's so easy

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>for them. So someone else who's going through a similar

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>situation that we had been through and that i'd been

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 1>through to think, everyone else is getting pregnant and I've

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>just had a miscarriage, and you know, it only exacerbates

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>other people's pain if you don't talk about such issues.

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 1>So in my mind, I was like, miscarriage is so common,

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>yet we don't talk about it, and people feel so

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>isolated in their sufferings. So I think it's really important

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>because it's such an integral part of my pregnancy story

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>that we had a miscarriage prior, so that's why I

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>felt it was important to talk about it. It definitely

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>changed my ability to enjoy this pregnancy with Mali. I

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>think I spent a lot of time fearful that I

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>was going to have a miscarriage, and anytime that there

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>was something that seemed like a speck of blood or

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a pain or something yeah, or totally anytime that there

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>was something that seemed like it could be going wrong,

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>my first thought was it's happening again, and it made

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 1>it really difficult to enjoy what an incredible experience being

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 1>pregnant is. It wasn't until I probably got to about

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the six or seven month market I was like, oh, no,

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>this is happening, like this is we are good, and

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>that I really got into the mojo of loving being pregnant.

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>So it relaxed. You did relax eventually, eventually till day dot. No.

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So even up until day dot, I think I did

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>think that it was a possibility, and you always have

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>this underlying fear, But that fear was not irrational. It

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't take hold of me. It was just a It

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.919
<v Speaker 1>was just a thought that I had from time to time,

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the same as I think the thought what if my

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>child has a disability or what if my child isn't healthy.

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>It just crosses your mind.

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>You do think about these things, but you also think,

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 2>surely it's not going to happen to me. So I

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>still did think about it, and I think had I

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 2>not had a miscarriage, it wouldn't have probably registered on

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>my radar at all, and I wouldn't have felt so

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>reserved in my happiness.

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So how far were you when you miscarried the first time?

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>We were within the first timester So we were ten weeks, right,

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 1>it's quite a long way along. Yeah, it was like

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you're at the time where you're telling family.

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nine nine, ten weeks. It was, I mean, and

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 2>it was just something that I didn't think would happen

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 2>to me, and it was something that I didn't think

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 2>happened very often. So I assumed there was something wrong

0:41:59.280 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>with me.

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, for all the women listening

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>that I maybe have had this happen before. Did you

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like you had failed? Because you most certainly haven't.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>But I can only imagine that women go through this

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>feeling of why couldn't I keep this viable?

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Or is it something I did or I think it was?

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Is there something that I've done wrong? Or is there

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>something wrong with me? With the two thoughts that I had.

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 2>But then the more that I looked into it and

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>the more that I researched it, the more I understood.

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, one in four pregnancies end in miscarriage. And

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I realized how common it is, which is huge. It's

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 2>just huge, and we should be speaking about it more.

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>So I'm really glad that you are opening up about that,

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>so thank you. No, it's you're so welcare but you

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>know what, like that was part of our journey and

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>now we have an incredibly beautiful, amazing baby girl, and

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>it just blows my mind, absolutely blows my mind.

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And just so there's a little bit of like more

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>hope for people that have maybe had a miscarriage. How

0:42:56.200 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>long after did you feel pregnant again with that journey?

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Hard or No.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 2>We were pretty lucky and actually happened for us pretty quickly,

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Like within within two months of losing our first pregnancy,

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 2>we were having another baby, And so it came as

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 2>a surprise because I didn't I had no idea that

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I was pregnant then and probably didn't think that it

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>would happen that quickly. So we were really lucky in

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 2>that aspect.

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I saw actually a funny story on your

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Instagram the other day that you did like a question

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>and the answers, and someone someone wrote in and said,

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>how do you keep the romance alive? Oh my god? Yeah,

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Bo nappy changing in Yeah, sometimes we changed nappies together,

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>had and Matt and I keep the romance alive with

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>a six week old baby. Do you know what I'm

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>going to say that that question probably came from someone

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't have a baby or hasn't had kids. The

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 1>romance is not in the na changing, Or maybe it's

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 1>from someone who's about to have a baby and they

0:43:54.280 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>genuinely answering that question. Honestly, it changes your relation ship massively.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>At the moment, everything's about Marley. Everything is about keeping

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this baby happy and healthy, and they require so much

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>time and energy and love that you kind of feel

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit depleted at the end of the day

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>that you don't have a lot of Like the last

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>thing you want to do is getting frisky in between

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the sheets. Well you can't. You haven't showered and you

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>haven't slept.

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>You can't even get frisky. You've got to wait for

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.800
<v Speaker 2>six weeks anyway. But more so, just MAT's.

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Counting down, Yeah, three days left.

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>You just even just to feel romantic and feel you

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>have any of that left to give to your partner.

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's been days where I'm so tired that

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I just don't have the energy to give the relationship

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:50.360
<v Speaker 2>the attention that it needs. However, I've just found a

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 2>whole new level of love for Matt. It's incredible watching Oh,

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 2>it's incredible watching him with Marley and watching him be

0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>a dad and just feeling your heart literally want to

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 2>explode because someone you love more than anything, you've created

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 2>a whole new person with. It's an amazing, amazing experience.

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 2>But romance in like a sexual like, oh, I want

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>to be all touchy feeling sometimes I do not come

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 2>near me.

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>You did keep it away, but I know that's still

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 1>far too raw.

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.399
<v Speaker 2>But I know that that's also just an intermittent thing,

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.320
<v Speaker 2>and that's part of the process of having a newborn

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 2>baby and then getting back into our groove and our

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>mojo and our routines. You know, I can't wait for that,

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 2>but I'm more so's there's no pressure on.

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, I mean you're still healing. Yeah, like

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>in all ways, you know, in many many ways, in

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 1>many ways, but it really does take your relationship from

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>it just takes it to the next level. You just

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 1>need to into it. We'll pass and be like, all right,

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>just do a quick buck ground today we're working at

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>backup and look, I the question on everyone's lips, well

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>just mine. Actually, has Matt tried your breast milk? Oh

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>my god? Do you know what literally pun intended? Again?

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>He hasn't yet, but he keeps saying he's going to,

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>So maybe ask me that again in a couple of

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 2>weeks time.

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised. I just thought he'd be a curious cat

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and just get straight in there. I'm actually surprised he.

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Hasn't yet either, because he when I was pregnant, he

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm one hundred percent going to try this.

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Also seen as though he's, you know, wanting to get

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the friskiness back. I thought he'd like two birds with

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>one stone, like get frisky, try the breast. Do you

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>know what? There's so no way. Your boobs just become

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>like a little bait, like they're not his, they're not

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 1>mine anymore. They are they are Maley May's boobs. Nobody

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>else owns these. They've got a neon sign across them,

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>which are Malory Mays. So have you tried your breast milk?

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious because I wonder if it's like this

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.800
<v Speaker 1>sweet little arm and were meant to be sweet do

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you want to put in your coffee? Actually I usually

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>add Ronny, just add some of Laura's breast milk. I

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>can express you some and you can try it, Brittanie

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>if you want. Haven't are you not at all curre?

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I haven't tried it, do you know what? I know

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that I probably will as well. There hasn't been a

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>time where I'm like, today's the day that I'm going

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to drink my breast milk image of you just like

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:05.439
<v Speaker 1>a cow. Oh my god, this has taken a terrible turn.

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry too. Ever's listening this is too much?

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was actually too much. I think I

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>will give it a try, and when I do, I

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>will report back. Yeah, okay, Well, I feel like we

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 1>have covered a lot.

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.839
<v Speaker 2>We totally have, and I feel like we've probably covered

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.280
<v Speaker 2>too much in some aspects actually, but maybe to finish off,

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 2>we do finish off these episodes with our suck and

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 2>our sweet for the week, right. Have you thought about this?

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even thought about it. I could probably on

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 1>the spot. My suck was I had to do some

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>some graveyard night shifts this week. Oh yeah, you've been

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 1>working every night in the hospital work so much. Yeah,

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe people don't realize that. But then also

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't get to go home and sleep in the

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>day always because it comes here and does podcasts the

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>first thing in the morning. I do feel love for

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys. Oh my god, don't bitch about not sleeping

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to me. I know what. That's it. I can't complain

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>because you lat to you for the rest of your life.

0:47:58.560 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>So no, that was it. I just had a bit

0:47:59.920 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 1>of a tough week with no sleep, but the four

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 1>coffees a day are helping. But my sweet what could

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>my sweep be? Oh? Actually I had a I'm not

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>going to mention anything going to depth, but I did

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 1>have a really good DM slide in this week. But

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going into that. Wait from a boy. Yeah,

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>most of your slideings, you know, the only people I

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>get excited about was if a cute boy sliding into

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>my dam or like an RSPCA dog, they're the two

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 1>things they're getting going dog sliding into your dms. He

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Usually you get some interesting characters that slide into DM's

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.799
<v Speaker 1>but I had one that was quite surprising and it

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>definitely put this well. If he's listening, you made her week.

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>You are the sweet. So that's very very lovely. But

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>what was yours? What's your suck and sweet? My suck

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and sweet for the week?

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, my suck is that I had a you know,

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I did realize that I can't just take Maley with

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 2>me everywhere and that she needs to have these blocks

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 2>of sleep. So I did have two nights this week

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that were really really insane with screaming, crying, and I

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what to do or how to handle it.

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 2>It was a real learning curve for being a new mum.

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 2>My sweet, is that Marley is smiling this week?

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Is she sure she's not just farting? Oh my god,

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those mums. Like it's a smile of

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>baite that's gassed. Please, she coughs and farts at the

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>same time. It's so cute. She could do anything.

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 2>She's definitely smiling, and it just melts me every time.

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 2>So like waking up in the middle of the night

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.799
<v Speaker 2>to do a feed or to just do anything. When

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 2>she looks up and smiles at me, I'm dead. It

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 2>just kills my heart so wonderful.

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is a great little's and you're gonna have

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>every week. You know, your Sweet's gonna be Marley. I know,

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I know. Sorry, guys, if you wanted to hear about

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>anything else, I'm a new mum now and that's all

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I talk about. So mum life. Well, I'm super excited

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that The Bachelor starts this week, so I can't wait

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to watch that, and I might put my two cents in.

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm so so excited, We're all over it. There were

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 1>some actually in the promo there were like fighter jet planes.

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw mine, but I played

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 1>golf and then they're in a fighter jet. I was like, oh,

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>this is not right. Well, I mean, if the if

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the Daily Mail articles from last season anything to go by,

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Bachelor probably exhausted their their budget budget on

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>money badger and so had no money left the date.

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe that's not the case of season, but yeah,

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys had crappy dates. Yeah, no, we had we

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 1>had fun dates and you know what, you could do

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 1>anything with Nativity dates. Yeah, if you could do anything

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>with him and have fun and it was brill but

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I would love to go and a fighter jet just

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>saying they weren't your big, flashy dates. But it seems

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>like they've really ramped up too. Like I said, the

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>traditional bachelor's story. Boy, Yeah, I am freaking excited. We're

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.359
<v Speaker 1>here for it. So come back and join us next

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>week as we recap the batch and probably talk a

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 1>lot more about nothing. Oh stop, who's talking about nothing?

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.919
<v Speaker 1>We talk about live, loving, all the things in between. Kids. Yeah,

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 1>hopefully I have some more dating stories with Thanks for

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 1>joining us, guys, see you soon.