Speaker 1: Now you all would have known about Australian's sweetheart egg.
Speaker 1: But she's an Olympian. But she's an ex swimmer. Libby Tricketts,
Speaker 1: Oh incredible. She's won so many gold medals, she still
Speaker 1: holds records. She's truly amazing. And now she is a
Speaker 1: mum of four beautiful children and recently she wrote an
Speaker 1: article for Mama Mia around something that her eight year
Speaker 1: old experienced and it really I mean as a mum,
Speaker 1: it really struck me, but also just as a woman.
Speaker 1: It's something that I think everybody has been through at
Speaker 1: some point in their life, and that is conversations around
Speaker 1: your weight and especially as your body changes. Now, Libby's
Speaker 1: little girl is eight years old and we have her
Speaker 1: on the phone, not the little.
Speaker 2: Girl, we have Libby on the phone to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Hi Libby, Hi Libby, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 2: Question Libby, what has happened?
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of dialogue between something that's gone
Speaker 1: down between some of your friends and something they said
Speaker 1: to your daughter.
Speaker 3: Basically, what happened was I was in the kitchen area
Speaker 3: just around the corner from where my daughter was with
Speaker 3: someone close to us, and they basically said to her, oh, Poppy,
Speaker 3: you look like you've lost weight. You're looking fantastic. Your
Speaker 3: daughter lost right, Yeah, to my eight year old, like
Speaker 3: directly to her. And because I wasn't in the exact presence,
Speaker 3: but you know, was overhearing the conversation, I was just
Speaker 3: completely shocked to the point that I had no words.
Speaker 3: I felt really annoyed at myself that I didn't kind
Speaker 3: of call it out in the moment, but I actually
Speaker 3: think it was for the best because then I could
Speaker 3: pull Poppy aside later try not to make too big
Speaker 3: a deal of it. And we just basically said, look,
Speaker 3: this is not how we talk about bodies. That's not
Speaker 3: what is valuable. What we care about as a family
Speaker 3: is that you know, we're moving our bodies. We're healthy,
Speaker 3: we're strong, and we're fueling it in the ways that
Speaker 3: is what is needed. She's eight years old, right like,
Speaker 3: this is just so far from her brain and I
Speaker 3: shouldn't have.
Speaker 2: To be living. That's the thing. It breaks my heart
Speaker 2: to think that she would then she could then go
Speaker 2: and look in the mirror and go, wait, am I bigger?
Speaker 2: Do I look fat?
Speaker 3: It is something that I think all of us have
Speaker 3: experienced on some level. I know my sister is in
Speaker 3: a larger body and has been most of her life
Speaker 3: and has recently lost a significant amount of weight, and
Speaker 3: she just is horrified by how much better she's treated now.
Speaker 3: And that's horrific, Like we shouldn't as a society, we
Speaker 3: shouldn't be doing that stuff. But it starts at eight
Speaker 3: years old when someone says something that seemingly on the
Speaker 3: surface is a compliment, right, it's something that is totally
Speaker 3: but we're saying that she looks great, you know, but
Speaker 3: that things that maybe she looks worse before, or you know,
Speaker 3: from the person's perspective, she looked worse before, and that
Speaker 3: can get internalized and there's insidious, little toxic comments becomes
Speaker 3: something that this never should have been anything.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's generational though, because you know, I
Speaker 1: think all of us are growing and we're raising our
Speaker 1: children more of a conscious way because we think about
Speaker 1: the things that we experienced as kids and whatnot. But
Speaker 1: it is sometimes the older generation. I don't want to stereotype,
Speaker 1: but that's where some of the negative comments can come from.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know, this person is of an older
Speaker 3: generation and we spoke to them right, and we had
Speaker 3: the conversation directly with them. We said, this isn't how
Speaker 3: we talk about bodies now. We don't talk about weight,
Speaker 3: we don't talk about, you know, how we look. We
Speaker 3: talk about being kind and funny and smart and hard working,
Speaker 3: and that's what is valuable, not what we look like.
Speaker 3: But you know, as a society we still have a
Speaker 3: huge issue with looks and that being the value of
Speaker 3: someone's important.
Speaker 1: Were they okay with it once you explain it to them,
Speaker 1: like your friend, they understand the problem and where they
Speaker 1: went wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually responded really well, and that washeartening, I think.
Speaker 3: But I also know that that is conditioning for them,
Speaker 3: because I then overheard them say something about someone else
Speaker 3: in another conversation. Their conditioned right, that that's how they
Speaker 3: were brought up, that's what was valuable to them. And
Speaker 3: so I'm going to still be very conscious when these
Speaker 3: people are around us, because you know, it's hard to
Speaker 3: know that those behaviors will change immediately. I think over
Speaker 3: the long term it will change, But it's being conscious,
Speaker 3: you know, about what is happening in our house and
Speaker 3: what my girls are exposed to, what Alfie, my son
Speaker 3: is exposed to and be open to having those conversations
Speaker 3: because I think the thing that we experienced is that
Speaker 3: it was just all swept under the rug. We wouldn't
Speaker 3: even approach it. We'll just kind of internalize it and
Speaker 3: get sad and completely different times.
Speaker 2: I went all the way ins with my mum when
Speaker 2: she was on white watches as a kid. That's what
Speaker 2: made me game. You were shocked when I came out.
Speaker 2: It's because I was with all the women going did
Speaker 2: you lose weight this week? Ways, all right, leave you Triggert.
Speaker 2: Thank you. If you want to read that article, it's
Speaker 2: on mamama dot com. Go over read. Thank you for
Speaker 2: coming on the tickut. We adore you.
Speaker 3: My absolute pleasure. Guys,