Speaker 1: Good a, Peter Helly he Welcome to you, and Seeing
Speaker 1: Nothing Yet the Movie podcast where our chat to a
Speaker 1: movie lover about a classic or beloved movie they haven't
Speaker 1: quite got around to watching until now.
Speaker 2: And today's guest comedian Kurty Weebeck Ever dance with the
Speaker 2: Devil on the pale line.
Speaker 1: I'm walking here, I'm walking here. Of all the gin
Speaker 1: joints in all the towns.
Speaker 2: In all the world, she walks in the mine. Haven't
Speaker 2: any right?
Speaker 3: Seeing nothing here.
Speaker 2: Along.
Speaker 1: Over ten years ago, I began doing gigs with a
Speaker 1: newcomer from Tasmania, Luke McGregor. I remember it so well
Speaker 1: because I often stood at the back of the room
Speaker 1: and watched as audiences would go from who is this guy?
Speaker 1: To like minutes later being bent over in joyous raptures.
Speaker 1: Today's guest Cursey Webeck is doing the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: You can't help but surrender the Cursey immediately. She has
Speaker 1: an almost festive vibe, joyful, smart, and life affirming in
Speaker 1: these deeply troubling times. Cursey is a must follow on Twitter.
Speaker 1: She tweets regularly and always keeps it funny. Kursey had
Speaker 1: a breakout Melbourne International Comedy Festival with her new.
Speaker 2: Show Chuck a Sicky.
Speaker 3: I saw it.
Speaker 2: It was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Her Cursey Weebeck's assume Comedy Hour has become a beacon
Speaker 1: for many Aussies in lockdown. Cursey is hilarious, kind and
Speaker 1: has a laugh and a disposition that are bloody infectious.
Speaker 2: And I'm stoked be hanging with her today.
Speaker 3: Hello, my name's Kirsty Weebeck, and my three favorite films
Speaker 3: are The Gurneys, Kids Love and Other Catastrophes.
Speaker 2: Let I'll start watching Oprah and smoking giant reefers and
Speaker 2: eating chocky.
Speaker 3: Bars and oh jeez, let's say never any story. Why
Speaker 3: don't you do what you dream fast in? Up until
Speaker 3: this week, I, oddly enough, had never seen Alien.
Speaker 1: Made ten years out the Stanley Kubrick's two thousand and
Speaker 1: one A Space Odyssey, and two years after George Lucas
Speaker 1: is Star Wars. Really, Scott's Alien feels somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: Merchant Vessel and Nostramo receives a stress signal, and against
Speaker 1: some of the advice of the human crew, they decide
Speaker 1: to investigate from a script and Dan O'Bannon from director
Speaker 1: Ridley Scott with a cracking cast including Tom Scarett, Einholm,
Speaker 1: John Hurt, Veronica cart Right and Harry Dean Stanton. But
Speaker 1: without a doubt, this is Sigourney Weavers film, her first
Speaker 1: lead role in the feature film, and she is an
Speaker 1: absolute weapon in one of the greatest sci fi films
Speaker 1: ever made. Kersey Weebeck, have you ever survived an alien attack?
Speaker 3: I haven't. That will probably surprise you to know, but
Speaker 3: I've never I've actually never been involved in one. But
Speaker 3: I'm cocky enough to imagine that if I were involved
Speaker 3: in one, I would triumph.
Speaker 2: After my mum.
Speaker 1: In fact, my wife does it as well. She'll watch
Speaker 1: a film like a war film, and she'll just go,
Speaker 1: I just don't think I'll be very good at war.
Speaker 1: Like It's like, no, shit, Mum, I.
Speaker 3: Relate to that. I think that, And when I'm watching something,
Speaker 3: I do the same thing. I imagine if I was
Speaker 3: in that situation, and I'm like, no, I'm all equipped
Speaker 3: for that, which is also probably why I'm not in
Speaker 3: the army. So it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Why you chose alien? Why did you choose this one?
Speaker 3: Okay, the answer to this is very amusing to me.
Speaker 3: Sigourney Weaver particularly as Ripley in Alien is a queer icon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and even though I've never seen Alien before, I'm very
Speaker 3: well aware of Ripley and and I guess yeah, I
Speaker 3: was like, it's almost I'm gonna have to handback my
Speaker 3: license if I if I don't get across this film,
Speaker 3: you know, like they're gonna they're gonna come around and
Speaker 3: they're going to be like, you've got to dump l
Speaker 3: and you have to marry Brian, the nice man from
Speaker 3: the local church with the side park. So I wanted
Speaker 3: to get across it. But you know, I remember a
Speaker 3: few years ago I made a joke on Twitter about
Speaker 3: how there's always a debate about nature versus nurture with
Speaker 3: you know, people being gay, and that people don't choose
Speaker 3: to be gay. What happens is they see Ripley in
Speaker 3: Alien and then they are told that they are gay afterwards.
Speaker 3: I had no business making jokes like that without watching Alien.
Speaker 2: It always, I mean, we've all done it.
Speaker 1: We've all made a joke about using something as a
Speaker 1: punchline that maybe you know we're not actually you know
Speaker 1: I've seen or are across. I always feel a little
Speaker 1: kind of like, I hope not I hope I get busted,
Speaker 1: and always double check if I use it in the
Speaker 1: right context.
Speaker 2: I always will quick Google search.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Like is Ripley hot? Yes? She is? Right.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to come back.
Speaker 1: We've got a whole to talk about Sigourney Weaver and
Speaker 1: Ripley and Alien, but I want to talk about your
Speaker 1: three fabulous favorite films.
Speaker 2: Goonies. I don't remember being in anyone's top three, but
Speaker 2: what what a film that is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an absolute ripper, and I revisited it, will
Speaker 3: actually revisit it a lot. But I did so again
Speaker 3: really recently, like only a couple of months ago, and
Speaker 3: it's still it holds up. I mean, there's there's some
Speaker 3: you know, there's some elements to it that probably wouldn't
Speaker 3: feature in a film these days, definitely, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's not not subject to cancelation. It's still good viewing.
Speaker 3: You know, there's films from my childhood that I've gone
Speaker 3: back as an adult and watched and I've been like, wow,
Speaker 3: I used to watch that literally every single weekend. But
Speaker 3: you know, the Goonies, Like, I'm sure that the portrayal
Speaker 3: of Sloth is probably something that would be contentious in
Speaker 3: this day and age, you.
Speaker 2: Don't know who's Sloth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so Sloth is he's sort of the hero.
Speaker 3: He ends up being the hero of the film, but
Speaker 3: you don't actually find out why. But he essentially has
Speaker 3: he's got facial differences, he's very like, he's very large.
Speaker 3: I suppose in the day they were probably going down that,
Speaker 3: trying to portray him as grotesque in some way, so
Speaker 3: that then later on it'd be like, oh, wow, he's
Speaker 3: actually the hero and he's so lovable and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely, by today's standards, there's huge ableism issues
Speaker 3: in there around Sloth. He does end up being the
Speaker 3: hero of the story in the end, which is, you know,
Speaker 3: it's lovely, but it's certainly problematic against today's standards and
Speaker 3: the way that he's treated by the family as well.
Speaker 3: But also even for its time, I suppose like him
Speaker 3: being the hero, and also like Chunk is one of
Speaker 3: the main characters, and him and Sloth become best friends
Speaker 3: as a movie wears on and and their love for
Speaker 3: each other is like one of the most beautiful things
Speaker 3: about the whole movies, Like they just adore each other,
Speaker 3: so that friendship, like it could have been chunk in
Speaker 3: anybody having that friendship. But it's just so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a gorgeous film.
Speaker 1: And I watched it probably a while ago now probably
Speaker 1: that's six seven years ago with my kids. It's a
Speaker 1: great film to watch with your kids. If you haven't
Speaker 1: seen it. It's it's made by the late Richard Donna,
Speaker 1: written by Christopher Columbus. It's got Josh Brolan, Sean Aston,
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a cracker.
Speaker 2: It's it's really it is really fun.
Speaker 3: It is, Yeah, it absolutely is.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And do you know what like lost character in them
Speaker 3: in the film? It was never punched down on either,
Speaker 3: which I suppose is a really which is fascinating to
Speaker 3: the time that it was made. It like to have
Speaker 3: a character like that, and yeah, to allow them to
Speaker 3: be like a central character and in a positive is
Speaker 3: for the time, I think pretty amazing. But you're right,
Speaker 3: it's a wonderful film. It's an all star cast and
Speaker 3: I think even by today's standards, it's quite an interesting watch.
Speaker 1: And Love and other Catastrophes great Aussie film. It feels
Speaker 1: like one that gets a bit lost when we talk
Speaker 1: about you know great Aussie films. It was a huge
Speaker 1: hit at the time, an indie hit I think it
Speaker 1: maybe with the Sun Dance and became quite big, made
Speaker 1: on a kind of shoestring budget. I have a loose
Speaker 1: connection with this film because the writer or co writer,
Speaker 1: Yeah old Bergman, ended up producing the film that I made,
Speaker 1: I Love You Too, in twenty and ten, so I
Speaker 1: really loved to You. Haven't seen it for a while,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I remember seeing when it came out, and
Speaker 1: I remember going to the Nova Cinema because there was
Speaker 1: a Q and A with the director of the film,
Speaker 1: Emma Kate Krogan.
Speaker 2: So she went on to do a strange planet. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure what she I don't think she's done a
Speaker 2: lot recently.
Speaker 1: But I remember there was a Q and A and
Speaker 1: somebody stood up because a lot of it is set
Speaker 1: in at Melbourne University. And somebody asked the question saying,
Speaker 1: I went, I go to Melbourne University and I noticed
Speaker 1: that when Matt Day's characters walking around the university, it
Speaker 1: doesn't quite make sense based on the geography of Melbourne University.
Speaker 1: And she'd have said, it's a film.
Speaker 3: That's so funny. I saw people saying that on Twitter
Speaker 3: recently about how you know how The Secret Life of
Speaker 3: Us has had like a resurgence recently through being on Netflix,
Speaker 3: and someone did the same thing. They were like, wait,
Speaker 3: that bridge in Saint Kilda isn't on that side, And
Speaker 3: I was like, well, imagine having that attention to detail,
Speaker 3: like I can barely remember the character's names after watching
Speaker 3: several seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it doesn't get in their way of
Speaker 1: them actually enjoying the film. I can imagine that guy
Speaker 1: during Love and other ass going, But Matt Day, are
Speaker 1: you walking in the wrong bloody direction.
Speaker 2: That's not how you get to the science lab.
Speaker 3: You're on your way to the cafeteria. What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Why does this film mean so much to you?
Speaker 3: I remember watching it when I was in I would
Speaker 3: have been in year eleven and I was doing film
Speaker 3: studies and I really wanted to do something like either
Speaker 3: you know, down the drama routal or media and so
Speaker 3: I was really interested in film at the time. And
Speaker 3: we had this really cool course where we watched a
Speaker 3: lot of Australian films and we talked about them and
Speaker 3: wrote essays on them and whatever, and we watched it
Speaker 3: in that class, and my teacher at the time was
Speaker 3: a really big fan of it, and I think was
Speaker 3: loosely linked to some of the people involved in it
Speaker 3: as well, and maybe it even came out around that time,
Speaker 3: but anyway, it was I was really fascinated. I think
Speaker 3: they made it on an absolute shoe string in a
Speaker 3: few weeks, and I think think it was like ten
Speaker 3: to fifteen thousand dollars or something, and they shot it
Speaker 3: like in ten days or something like that, and it
Speaker 3: was just like just a great feat and even the
Speaker 3: themes in it. I mean at that time in my life,
Speaker 3: I was like seventeen years old and like working stuff out,
Speaker 3: and you know, it was kind of cool watching some
Speaker 3: slightly older people trying to make sense of it, and
Speaker 3: I think it just really resonated with me. And funnily enough,
Speaker 3: a few years back, I was I was on tour
Speaker 3: with stand up and I actually I saw Alice Garner,
Speaker 3: who played one of the characters in Love and Other Catastrophis.
Speaker 3: I saw her at the airport and I don't usually
Speaker 3: do this. I usually just let people get on with
Speaker 3: their day, but I really had to say something to
Speaker 3: her on behalf of like teenaged to me. So I
Speaker 3: was like, sorry, excuse me, Alice, I just wanted to
Speaker 3: let you know that, like Love and Other Catastrophees is
Speaker 3: one of my favorite films, and it was like it
Speaker 3: was such an important film to me when I was
Speaker 3: a teenager, and I just had this overwhelming urge to
Speaker 3: let you know. And she was like, oh, well, thank you.
Speaker 3: Oh I haven't. I haven't thought about that for ages.
Speaker 3: And I think she's a professor at the UNI, at
Speaker 3: one of the universities or something now, like she's an academic,
Speaker 3: and I guess her life just took a completely different
Speaker 3: turn after you know, her early twenties or whatever when
Speaker 3: she was acting, and so I could really see in
Speaker 3: her eyes that i'd like just teleported her somewhere. And
Speaker 3: she wasn't mean to me or anything, but she was
Speaker 3: just like, oh, oh cool, thanks. So now I've gone
Speaker 3: back to leaving everyone alone.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she would have walked away and kind of
Speaker 1: gone I wish I had said something a bit more succinct.
Speaker 1: Lovely woman who came up to me and paid me
Speaker 1: that compliment.
Speaker 3: She was just trying to get a coffee, so fair enough.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like, can you imagine somebody like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: George Clooney, Meryl Streep, Sigourney Weaver, let's let's stick with aliens.
Speaker 2: Sigourney like.
Speaker 1: The amount of people who would feel they need to
Speaker 1: take that opportunity, I mean, they would just have they
Speaker 1: will probably just have their reply locked and loaded, almost
Speaker 1: I imagine it. Maybe alis Ganer doesn't have that flood
Speaker 1: of people raining compliments about love and other catastrophes Sigourney
Speaker 1: Weaver does about alien.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Maybe she went away and she
Speaker 3: was like, oh, if people are going to start approaching
Speaker 3: me about loving other catastrophes, maybe I should have a
Speaker 3: little go to phrase that I can say to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, love and other compliments. Thank you, Alice, if
Speaker 1: you're listening, that's yours.
Speaker 2: That's free.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'll let you know if she takes it on
Speaker 3: board next time I approach her.
Speaker 2: Never ending story has popped up quite a bit in
Speaker 2: this podcast. It's not a film. I must say.
Speaker 1: I've seen it, but it doesn't live in my heart
Speaker 1: as you don't. I don't dislike it, it just doesn't
Speaker 1: live in my heart as much as it does for
Speaker 1: so many other people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's fair enough. I won't. I won't be
Speaker 3: upset about that. Look, I've got a lot of firm
Speaker 3: views on the Never Ending Story, because you know, at
Speaker 3: the risk of giving away you know, a part of
Speaker 3: the film that's been given away many times. So if
Speaker 3: anyone's listening and doesn't know this squaller yet, then that's
Speaker 3: on you. You need to get out more. Don't get
Speaker 3: out more?
Speaker 1: What have I done?
Speaker 2: Canceled twice on.
Speaker 3: DH Chess is going to be on the blower to me,
Speaker 3: and I'll be like, no, I didn't mean it that way.
Speaker 3: It was figured him.
Speaker 2: People are out in the streets, breaking lockdown, searching for
Speaker 2: never Ending Story.
Speaker 3: Searching high and low for Alice Garner to give her
Speaker 3: the advice. So I, as an adult, I think it
Speaker 3: is such a bold move to commence a film with
Speaker 3: a tragic death of a beloved character, especially a film
Speaker 3: that was designed for children. No wonder so many people
Speaker 3: in my generation are having a rough one. We grew
Speaker 3: up on that stuff and I genuinely used to watch
Speaker 3: it all the time with my sisters, and every time
Speaker 3: we were inconsolable. But it was still one of my
Speaker 3: favorite movies. What does that say?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 1: I go to it's always a big move when films
Speaker 1: that are designed for kids young adults even to kill
Speaker 1: off any character, let alone very early. I mean, is
Speaker 1: an extraordinary the kind of the opening sequence or you know,
Speaker 1: close to the opening sequence of Up where he loses
Speaker 1: his wife and it kind of goes through how they match,
Speaker 1: and it's an extraordinary piece of filmmaking. But it's just
Speaker 1: not what I expected walking in to a Pixar film
Speaker 1: about a guy who ties balloons to his house and
Speaker 1: floats away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is such a bold maneuver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never ending story and we thought I've only really
Speaker 2: seen it the once is in the same category.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very much so, it's yeah, the Yeah, like
Speaker 3: the horse at the beginning, it's a horse as well
Speaker 3: as an animal, really devastating.
Speaker 1: But he wouldn't get away with it. Now, kill humans,
Speaker 1: not not animals. Humans must have animals.
Speaker 3: Don't never kill a horse. Never. It's it's even funny
Speaker 3: that I said that as one of my favorite films.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the worst question you could ask somebody
Speaker 3: with my personality type, because like, your favorite three films,
Speaker 3: I was like, what are three films? I know, No,
Speaker 3: that's not true. The other two are genuine, but like,
Speaker 3: if I'm going to be honest with you, the Never
Speaker 3: Ending Story, the last time I watched it, which was
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, it didn't hold up. It
Speaker 3: was like incredibly boring. Yeah, I didn't love it. Should
Speaker 3: we just end the podcast here? That I've absolutely wrecked it?
Speaker 1: That is the most underwhelming third favorite film I've ever
Speaker 1: had on not not because of the not because of
Speaker 1: the chosen movie. That movie, The Never Ending Story has
Speaker 1: been included in others top three films, but the fact
Speaker 1: that you watched it recently and it didn't stack up
Speaker 1: and still remains in your three favorite films any way,
Speaker 1: that's that's acceptable, is if you've only seen three films.
Speaker 3: The other thing about it is that like I absolutely
Speaker 3: could have just carried on talking about it and no
Speaker 3: one ever needed to know that. The truth is, I'm
Speaker 3: over it. But like repressed Catholic guilt got the better
Speaker 3: of me, from my solid twelve years of Catholicism as
Speaker 3: a child. It got the better of me, and I
Speaker 3: was like, do you know what, I'm going to have
Speaker 3: to let Pete's podcast listeners know that this is diffingenuous.
Speaker 1: This is this is as close as we've ever come
Speaker 1: to a scandal. This might be the most controversial episode either.
Speaker 1: You ain't see nothing yet ever based on the Alice
Speaker 1: Garner stuff.
Speaker 2: Now, now that you are completely.
Speaker 1: Over your third favorite film, supposed to the third favorite
Speaker 1: film of all time, could you not think of a
Speaker 1: third film? Or were you trying to kind of just
Speaker 1: let people know that for a period of time this
Speaker 1: movie meant a lot to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I like that. I like that explanation. For
Speaker 3: a period of time, it meant the world to me
Speaker 3: as a child, absolutely, And when when I made the
Speaker 3: decision to talk about it today, Never in my wildest
Speaker 3: dreams did I imagine that it was going to completely
Speaker 3: end my career.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really, I really wish it wouldn't come
Speaker 1: to that. I really do, and I really hope. But
Speaker 1: I can't control that Cursie.
Speaker 2: It's up to the it's up to the Twitter spear.
Speaker 1: You see what happens. Probably don't need to plug those
Speaker 1: zoom dates at the at the end of.
Speaker 3: The show, I've got nothing left to plug. The calendar
Speaker 3: is empty.
Speaker 2: Let's let's chat about Alien. Did you did you love it?
Speaker 3: Yes? I actually did. I know no one's going to
Speaker 3: believe the word I say. Now, but.
Speaker 2: Did you did?
Speaker 3: You? Really? Did I even watch it? We don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you lied about Sigourney Weaver on Twitter three years ago.
Speaker 1: Now it's got to stop this lying about seeing Alien.
Speaker 2: And now you liked story.
Speaker 3: It ends here today, it ends now. Did I actually did?
Speaker 3: I've got a very short attention span these days for movies,
Speaker 3: but actually, here you go. I guess I liked it
Speaker 3: so much that Ellen I actually the following night watched
Speaker 3: Aliens right, and then last night we watched Aliens three.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So that's something.
Speaker 2: That's that's it. We're on a bender that you may
Speaker 2: you may, you may be on your way back.
Speaker 1: You know you your career had just fallen off a cliff.
Speaker 1: And this is a good lesson for anyone out there.
Speaker 1: Just when you think everything's done, it's over, you never
Speaker 1: know when you can turn a corner, and you have
Speaker 1: just turned a massive corner.
Speaker 3: You can call your way back by getting around the
Speaker 3: whole franchise.
Speaker 1: Well, it's fun because I saw Aliens the sequel before
Speaker 1: I saw Alien. I saw it in the cinemas because
Speaker 1: that comes out ten years later. It's directed by James Cameron,
Speaker 1: and so I saw that and then went back and
Speaker 1: watched Alien, and I have to say, I really love
Speaker 1: revisiting this film.
Speaker 2: I feel like most most weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a podcast that deals in classic film,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's very rarely is there film that
Speaker 1: I'm underwhelmed by. It maybe happened once or twice. But
Speaker 1: I really I really enjoyed watching this again. And I
Speaker 1: had the same thought of like, I think I might
Speaker 1: watch Aliens tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sure, I reckon, We're going to keep going.
Speaker 3: We're just going to smash through everything that we can
Speaker 3: to do with it. In a week's time, I'll be
Speaker 3: like and I was watching an Alien Versus Predator, like,
Speaker 3: we're into it. I did. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: I got a.
Speaker 3: So I did the rental thing through one of the
Speaker 3: streaming services that we have, and so because you rent,
Speaker 3: you rent it for whatever thirty days or whatever. The
Speaker 3: following day there was a like can you review the
Speaker 3: film kind of thing, and I didn't. I absolutely didn't
Speaker 3: do that, but I did take the opportunity to make
Speaker 3: a tweet out of it. So I screenshoted it and
Speaker 3: this was my immediate feedback. It was everything was too wet.
Speaker 3: Like my initial thought really early on in watching it,
Speaker 3: I was like, why is everything so wet? Like why
Speaker 3: is the alien so wet? What in the whole environment
Speaker 3: everything's wet?
Speaker 2: The alien does have some jeweling issues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was reading on Wikipedia earlier that I wish
Speaker 3: I had a good memory because it was not that
Speaker 3: long ago, and I already can't remember what I read.
Speaker 3: But I think it was a Swedish artist created the alien,
Speaker 3: and I've just got so many questions for him because
Speaker 3: it's it is just an awful alien, like why has
Speaker 3: it got so many teeth?
Speaker 2: So many teeth no eyes?
Speaker 1: And I love it because, you know, were used to
Speaker 1: seeing aliens almost like in kind of human form as
Speaker 1: far as you know, two arms, two legs, it's like
Speaker 1: a human in a suit. I really liked that this
Speaker 1: didn't look like that, even though it is played by
Speaker 1: a six foot ten Nigerian and I'll give you his
Speaker 1: name because they found him in a vlajibideo. They found
Speaker 1: him in an English pub. He'd moved to London to study.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's the art or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And one of the producers is there. They're looking for
Speaker 1: somebody to to play the alien in the suit, and
Speaker 1: they found him. But it doesn't look you know, it's
Speaker 1: not shaped like a human. The only sum it looks
Speaker 1: a little bit human is right at the end when
Speaker 1: it kind of gets blasted away from the spaceship. It
Speaker 1: kind of looks like they've gone back to almost the
Speaker 1: two legs, to kind of a model that worked so
Speaker 1: well for over the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, I don't know much about film history,
Speaker 3: among lots of other topics, but it wasn't even on
Speaker 3: my radar how they created the alien. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 3: hadn't thought about it if it was a human inns
Speaker 3: fuit or if it were like CGI. But like I
Speaker 3: don't even know when CGI came in. Like I think
Speaker 3: alien was only made in life? Was it seventy nine?
Speaker 2: Seventy nine? Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: I wasn't born then, so I don't know what was
Speaker 3: going on. I had no idea how it was made.
Speaker 3: But I think the point that I'm trying to make
Speaker 3: is that you're right, like, never at any point does
Speaker 3: it look like a human in a suit. Like I
Speaker 3: wasn't like, oh, that's clearly someone playing that alien. It
Speaker 3: was more like it had been created in some way
Speaker 3: something robot alien with disgusting teeth and too much wetness.
Speaker 2: A lot of wetness.
Speaker 1: As I said in the intro, like it does feel
Speaker 1: like it lives somewhere between two thousand and one, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, a film not for everyone. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can completely understand I really enjoyed two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: We did it recently Tony Armstrong and I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: But I can totally understand that my dad, I would
Speaker 1: never recommend him watch two thousand and one in space obviously,
Speaker 1: And I feel like this literally that in Star Wars,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's a really smart script. It takes its time,
Speaker 1: it builds mood, but it's also really entertaining, Like it's
Speaker 1: you know, you could there are themes in this film
Speaker 1: that you could take on if you want to, or
Speaker 1: you could just leave them.
Speaker 2: Alone and enjoy this as a horror sci fi epic.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. And it's definitely got plenty of like kind
Speaker 3: of moments in it as well. Yeah, Like it serves
Speaker 3: very well as a bit of a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cat, the cat is responsible for half of them.
Speaker 1: I think I think the alien has maybe one or
Speaker 1: two more scares than the cat. The cat is, how
Speaker 1: did you respond to the cat because you have a
Speaker 1: cat named Joan memory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my dog's named Joan. Yeah. No, don't apologize.
Speaker 3: You've got your own life to worry about, Pete. You
Speaker 3: don't have to any.
Speaker 1: I usually researched this a podcast to an absolute to
Speaker 1: the end degree, and I apologize.
Speaker 2: I got the name of your dog wrong.
Speaker 3: We found a flaw in the process. So what is it.
Speaker 3: You've got confused between Joan and Fergie and their species
Speaker 3: or you just couldn't be bothered researching my backstory enough.
Speaker 1: The ladder the latter was, I thought you got bored.
Speaker 1: I thought we've hung out enough. We've done enough things
Speaker 1: together over the years.
Speaker 3: I don't need to I don't want to know about boring.
Speaker 3: I just see you like throwing my file back in
Speaker 3: your filing cabinet, like no, I'm done pulling out Alice
Speaker 3: Garner's and writing down how she can respond to compliments instead.
Speaker 3: So Joan's the cat. It was an interesting crossover pet
Speaker 3: for me, because you're right, I've got a dog called
Speaker 3: Joan very close to Jones, and a cat called Fergie
Speaker 3: who has some physical attributes that are quite similar. To
Speaker 3: Joones the Cat. So the Cat was very stirring for me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: very close to home.
Speaker 1: Well, there's there's an interesting thing because there's a series
Speaker 1: of books called Save the Cat and it's it's a
Speaker 1: screenwriting to help with screenwriting, and they're very popular books.
Speaker 1: I have them, to be absolutely honest, I have not
Speaker 1: read them. But it was only when I was watching
Speaker 1: this that I thought, Oh, I wonder if this is
Speaker 1: where they got the name. I've often wondered why they
Speaker 1: name those books Save the Cat, and I've always guessed
Speaker 1: it's because we've spoken about this on this podcast before.
Speaker 2: Giving characters.
Speaker 1: Something they do to kind of to make you cheer
Speaker 1: for them, you know, show that they have you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're a good person at heart. And I think
Speaker 1: Ripley kind of putting effort into saving the cat, which
Speaker 1: you know not everybody would in this situation, gives her
Speaker 1: that humanity that we love to see now, Pagan, so
Speaker 1: I imagine. Yeah, and let us know at yasny Podcasts
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com if you know, if you've read
Speaker 1: Save the Cat, is this movie the inspiration?
Speaker 2: I would love to know? But yeah, the cat, the
Speaker 2: cat survives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's amazing and then goes into oh oh, no,
Speaker 3: I've forgotten the word. I was so pleased about this
Speaker 3: new word that I was learning as well, what does
Speaker 3: she what do they call it when she goes into
Speaker 3: the sleep thing to like come back to earth or whatever?
Speaker 2: We call it the pod, let's call it the pod.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll call it the pod. There's like, ah, anyway, whatever.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it comes to me by the end of the podcast.
Speaker 3: If not, all the listeners will were just as annoyed
Speaker 3: about it as me.
Speaker 2: So I can pod sleep chamber capsule.
Speaker 3: It's more a word about the state as opposed to
Speaker 3: like the actual.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I read it like fifty times this morning. So
Speaker 3: cool story. Curse he thanks for coming on my podcasts.
Speaker 3: I keep presenting these ideas and just trailing off and
Speaker 3: staring into space.
Speaker 1: I did wonder why in the in the slip capsule
Speaker 1: or the sleeping pod that why they had to wear
Speaker 1: it looked like nappies. I mean the shorts or nappies
Speaker 1: are one of them, Like the one way we're kind
Speaker 1: of almost looking at the leg. I think which character
Speaker 1: it was looked like a nappy, and I think the
Speaker 1: others were wearing shorts. But I think they worked out
Speaker 1: if if we're going to if you want this shot,
Speaker 1: we're shooting up the leg of you know, Tom Scarett
Speaker 1: or John Hurt or whoever it was, we need some coverage,
Speaker 1: so we need to kind of fold in the short.
Speaker 2: But it made it look like a nappy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I missed that. You're you're you were really
Speaker 3: getting into the film. I was like, I was at
Speaker 3: the broader picture while you were really honing in. You're like,
Speaker 3: I don't understand why Tom scaret had that dimple just
Speaker 3: below his left knee, Like, what's that about? Was that
Speaker 3: an injury?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: The other thing was there was no alien that I saw.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was, I was focused on various issues,
Speaker 1: but I didn't see an alien. I mean I saw
Speaker 1: the nappy, and I saw Tom Skerrett's bed.
Speaker 2: It was more his bed. I thought, oh, that's interested
Speaker 2: in that they have that in Top Gun, you know,
Speaker 2: years later, or Pick of Fences.
Speaker 3: But you spent a long time worrying about the length
Speaker 3: of Jones's clause, so you missed all the appearances like
Speaker 3: the alien, and that's fair enough. You had a lot.
Speaker 1: I thought Jones was the alien. I thought, this is
Speaker 1: basically Garfield terrorizing the spaceship.
Speaker 3: Was everyone so scared? It's just a domestic tat cat.
Speaker 3: Just feed it, Just feed it, give it a cuddible.
Speaker 3: Hey is it? I think the words. I think it's stasis,
Speaker 3: the S T A S I S, which is a
Speaker 3: terrible word to spell when you have a list, But
Speaker 3: I think I think that's the word I was looking
Speaker 3: for before. I think that's what they were calling it
Speaker 3: when she was going into the sleep chamber to come
Speaker 3: back to Earth.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, there you go. We've learned something. Stasis. Uh,
Speaker 1: the state of stasis. I've never had that word before.
Speaker 3: I like that. Well, I've brought an incredibly boring fact
Speaker 3: to the podcast today. Also, feel free to have me
Speaker 3: on again next week if you want, Pete. I'll understand
Speaker 3: if you want me to come on each week.
Speaker 1: The the thing I love about the opening of this film,
Speaker 1: it kind of takes its time and it's just all
Speaker 1: about atmosphere.
Speaker 2: It puts us in Like the sound design is kind
Speaker 2: of starting.
Speaker 1: You mentioned it's very wet, but that's dripping water and
Speaker 1: the kind of echo wee kind of nature in the
Speaker 1: score or just puts us exactly where we need to be.
Speaker 1: It takes its time, and I think the spacecraft is
Speaker 1: for nineteen seventy nine. This is ye know, as I've
Speaker 1: said the intro two year out the Star Wars, the
Speaker 1: spacecraft is stunning, like it still looks so good. The
Speaker 1: design of this film is amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with that. I said several times
Speaker 3: during the film that it's amazing to me that it
Speaker 3: was made so long ago. Other than like the computer effects,
Speaker 3: like obviously that is blatantly very dated, like how they're
Speaker 3: hacking away at the main frame and the pixelated doss
Speaker 3: kind of words come across and whatever. But outside of that,
Speaker 3: like the actual computer technology, the spaceship completely holds up
Speaker 3: like it looks amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And it reminded me because you're basically waiting
Speaker 2: the genius. Part of the genius. One of the genius
Speaker 2: things about this film.
Speaker 1: It's called alien, so you know, you know he's going
Speaker 1: to be an alien, and it sounds stupid to point
Speaker 1: that out, but there's like it does like if this,
Speaker 1: if this become if this is called Ripley, Like you're
Speaker 1: watching this not knowing that this is about, you know,
Speaker 1: basically a monster movie and everyone's you know, you kind
Speaker 1: of know that you've seen enough movies that lives are
Speaker 1: going to be at the very least endangered. Some people
Speaker 1: will probably die. We don't know who's going to die.
Speaker 1: But it's just like somebody explained to me many years ago.
Speaker 1: Channel nine this went through a stage where all their
Speaker 1: shows were as simple as they could possibly be. It
Speaker 1: was a Today show, it was the Footage show, it
Speaker 1: was there's another, the Midday show, like it just told
Speaker 1: you what it was. And they were all like hugely successful,
Speaker 1: successful shows, not just because.
Speaker 2: Of the name, but.
Speaker 1: You know, the alien is so good because you're just waiting.
Speaker 1: You're waiting, and I think they use that tension really well.
Speaker 1: It kind of reminded me.
Speaker 2: Did you ever play what Spotlight? Growing up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You just went around the dark with flash torches
Speaker 1: looking for it, you know, looking for whoever you were,
Speaker 1: you know, who was it? I guess it kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me of that. It gave me a very similar feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the build up and there it could be anybody. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right. It's it's good that they gave us a
Speaker 3: big clue with the title. I'm really I'm really ruminating
Speaker 3: over your the you know, the Footy Show and the
Speaker 3: Midday Show. And I think probably for next year, I
Speaker 3: think my festival show will probably be called the Funny Show.
Speaker 2: You know what, It would not be the worst title.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are too many comedians getting to Artie
Speaker 1: party with their with their show titles.
Speaker 2: Yeah told me you top Bellard, you heard Tom.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Sigourney Weaver. We mentioned her, we have
Speaker 1: mentioned her, but it's her film she is. She is
Speaker 1: such a weapon in this film. It said like first
Speaker 1: she I think she was like had a non speaking
Speaker 1: part in in any Hall, and I think there might
Speaker 1: have been one other film I've never heard of. I
Speaker 1: think anyone's ever heard of. I don't know how big
Speaker 1: her role was. They came out, but this is basically
Speaker 1: her first lead role in the feature film, and she does.
Speaker 1: She barely speaks. She doesn't really say much of any importance.
Speaker 1: So if you're watching this not knowing any anything about
Speaker 1: the cast or who are especially focusing on, she doesn't
Speaker 1: say anything of real value until about twenty two minutes
Speaker 1: in Like You're not like, I think she's technically third
Speaker 1: in charge.
Speaker 2: I think they say, but she is. She's so good.
Speaker 2: She's so good.
Speaker 1: She just looks she looks great as far as the
Speaker 1: screen presence, she feels the screen. She's like, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to you know, there are a few more iconic
Speaker 1: female roles, I will suggest, and feminist roles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's such a feminist role and that's it
Speaker 3: very much holds up today. But it blows my mind
Speaker 3: that that role existed in nineteen seventy nine, like how
Speaker 3: cutting edge, Like it would have been such a leader
Speaker 3: in the industry at that time. And yeah, for her
Speaker 3: just to play such a strong female lead and for
Speaker 3: you know, there to be no romantic undercurrents or her
Speaker 3: propping up a man or anything like that, it's absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 3: And something I also really love about Sigourney is that
Speaker 3: she like she looks like a real person as well,
Speaker 3: And I just love that. I think, like, I think
Speaker 3: she's such an incredible actor, and she's got such a yeah,
Speaker 3: an incredible stage presence like you said before, like a
Speaker 3: screen presence, but then yeah, she looks like a regular
Speaker 3: person as well, and she's yeah, she's just incredible. She's
Speaker 3: absolutely phenomenal, amazing in that role, and she's had like
Speaker 3: such a successful career and it basically all launched from Ripley.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you know that the franchise exists, you know,
Speaker 1: because of her. And what's really interesting about the scripts.
Speaker 1: In the scripts, Ripley was male, but there was a
Speaker 1: note on it that said, the crew of this space
Speaker 1: vessel is unisex.
Speaker 2: All these roles are interchangeable. Ripley does not have to
Speaker 2: be a man, you know.
Speaker 1: So and then they actually thought, and this is really
Speaker 1: I find it's really fascinating, the producers thought, we're probably
Speaker 1: a better chance to get this made if Ripley is
Speaker 1: a female. The twentieth century Fox at the time were
Speaker 1: actually starting to make more female driven lead films, and
Speaker 1: they actually thought they saw that as actually something that
Speaker 1: would help get this film made, which is not something
Speaker 1: I would have thought was happening in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 1: It feels like a more recent kind of phenomenon that
Speaker 1: hollywoods finally gone, Oh, there is a whole market for
Speaker 1: female driven films. Like it's not just about doing the
Speaker 1: cool thing, it's actually about there's an economic reason, yeah, choices,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of financial reasons, We're going to look into
Speaker 3: some equality for a while. It'd be better for our
Speaker 3: bottom line if we show a bit of diversity in
Speaker 3: what we're creating. But you're so right, it does feel
Speaker 3: like a new thing, which is kind of terrifying to
Speaker 3: know that it was happening in nineteen seventy nine, because
Speaker 3: essentially what that's saying is that it was something that
Speaker 3: started to happen, and then they were like, oh, we've
Speaker 3: made a terrible mistake, let's stop that, and then in
Speaker 3: recent years have been like, all right, let's try and
Speaker 3: chose some diversity again. It's been twenty years.
Speaker 1: They got to Alien three and thought, oh, Alien three
Speaker 1: wasn't as good as Aliens and Aliens, so it kind
Speaker 1: of maybe we did pull the wrong lever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon, Yeah, I reckon they pulled the wrong
Speaker 3: lever with Alien three, just quietly no spoilers, but it
Speaker 3: definitely lost its feminist it's feminist angle by the time
Speaker 3: it got to that one. But Alien three is brutal,
Speaker 3: but it's also yeah, it's I don't think it's got
Speaker 3: very many feminist things running through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, David Fincher, I think took over for that one,
Speaker 1: and it's I I'm not even sure if I've seen
Speaker 1: it to be absolutely honest, But I think that the
Speaker 1: law around it is that they got that one quite wrong.
Speaker 3: M M yeah, yeah, I don't know anything about that.
Speaker 3: I don't know about the law around it, but having
Speaker 3: viewed it last night, putting it straight into my brain
Speaker 3: through my ears and eyes, I can tell you with
Speaker 3: great authority that they got it pretty wrong.
Speaker 2: What did you think?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the alien. So the first the first
Speaker 1: time we kind of get any kind of well, we
Speaker 1: got a sense of it because they responded this distress
Speaker 1: call and we kind of suspect, okay, it's time.
Speaker 2: You know, we're going to see alien pretty soon. But
Speaker 2: the genius behind the.
Speaker 1: Face huggers as a thing that happens. It's John Hurt
Speaker 1: who goes in and we're just going to see something
Speaker 1: jump up at him, and then it cuts back to
Speaker 1: the space and then we see we see this this
Speaker 1: face hugger. What were what were your impressions or what
Speaker 1: were you thinking when you saw the face hugger?
Speaker 3: Well, I think the initial thing was just that it
Speaker 3: was such a strange generation of an alien like to
Speaker 3: me in terms of it not being the stereotypical kind
Speaker 3: of martiany kind of aliens that we see and just
Speaker 3: being wrapped around his face. Like sorry to give away
Speaker 3: what a face hugger.
Speaker 6: Is, but.
Speaker 3: It was. It was just a really bizarre thing. And
Speaker 3: then yeah, I guess it was just anticipation, like waiting
Speaker 3: to see how it would unfold after that. And then
Speaker 3: but having said that, because his character when he when
Speaker 3: the face hugger like gets off him and whatever and
Speaker 3: goes away to die, he he gets up and has
Speaker 3: a meal with everybody, and they just they but they
Speaker 3: managed to orchestrate that in just such a way that
Speaker 3: they don't they don't allude to anything overtly, but you
Speaker 3: just know, like you're like things are about to get real,
Speaker 3: and and they do. They immediately do. But yeah, like
Speaker 3: the face hugger, what whose idea was that?
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think it's that that's that Swedish,
Speaker 1: you know, surreal artists who kind of designed there more
Speaker 1: he might be Danish. Maybe I'll try I'll try to
Speaker 1: find that out. Part of it was his idea or
Speaker 1: it's the design of it was his idea and his work.
Speaker 1: But just like a genius, like it would have been
Speaker 1: so easy to have that kind of fright with the
Speaker 1: alien coming up and you and you need me to
Speaker 1: see John hurt dad, you know, or his face kind
Speaker 1: of burnt or whatever it might be. But they have
Speaker 1: the scene where he's still alive when we don't know
Speaker 1: what the aliens intentions are, and you've got those great
Speaker 1: scenes with being home, you know, who is just more
Speaker 1: fascinated with the alien than is or any of the
Speaker 1: human life form. And that kind of reveals itself as
Speaker 1: to why later on. But it's just so brilliant because
Speaker 1: you are thinking, yeah, how does he get out of this?
Speaker 1: And that brilliant thing where they try to cut it
Speaker 1: and the blood is basically acid. Yeah, I think one
Speaker 1: of the things that they anticipated was the first question
Speaker 1: people are going to ask is, well, why don't they
Speaker 1: just shoot the alien? And that gives us the reason.
Speaker 1: But they can't shoot it because the blood will just
Speaker 1: burn a hole through this spaceship if you lap of
Speaker 1: the alien. So it's so good, but you're right in
Speaker 1: any kind of drama or horror, horror film or so,
Speaker 1: whenever the characters start having fun, you know they're not
Speaker 1: going to have fun all the way through the scene.
Speaker 1: There's going to be here. You can't well, I mean
Speaker 1: in any kind of writing. You can't start in screenwriting,
Speaker 1: you can't start happy and and happy in a scene
Speaker 1: like yeah, scenes kind of, but particularly in horror films,
Speaker 1: you just know suddenly is going to.
Speaker 2: Happen, and boy, I mean doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Like Ridley Scott didn't tell anyone outside of John Hurt
Speaker 1: that this was I don't know how it kind of
Speaker 1: kept it completely a secret, but they didn't know what
Speaker 1: was about to happen. So the reactions to the alien
Speaker 1: popping out of his chest real and and and genuine.
Speaker 1: And the actor Yafa Coodo is his name, he was
Speaker 1: so shocked and the stress he had to go into
Speaker 1: his dressing room afterwards and he just stayed there and
Speaker 1: want to talk to anyone for quite a while.
Speaker 2: It's pretty fullun.
Speaker 1: It's so good when when when you see that, it's
Speaker 1: almost like he's been shot in the chest, but you're
Speaker 1: kind of going away, what what happened? It's just blood
Speaker 1: the bladders, but it's coming from the fucking inside. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just incredible. What was going on through your
Speaker 1: head when when popped out?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: What absolute terror? I just massive terror in my house
Speaker 3: over here. It's funny because I think it's like we've
Speaker 3: all known that forever, like that's a it's an iconic
Speaker 3: scene from Alien that even if you haven't seen the film,
Speaker 3: everybody knows about the scene of an alien bursting out
Speaker 3: a Sigourney Weaver and that's always been used in trailers
Speaker 3: and whatever. But like a spoiler alert, that doesn't happen
Speaker 3: in Alien, And it's just something that they've grabbed as
Speaker 3: a hook over the years. Right, But obviously when you
Speaker 3: start watching it, you know that it's going to be
Speaker 3: within people's bodies in some way, shape or form. But
Speaker 3: then what it actually happens, it's just so grotesque and
Speaker 3: so well done that it is truly horrifying, to the
Speaker 3: point where you, like, my brain immediately just went to
Speaker 3: imagining that actually happening to me, like just like, oh yuck,
Speaker 3: I don't want that to happen to me, And oh yap,
Speaker 3: like what an understatement? Oh no, please, no, please, don't
Speaker 3: have an alien just come bursting out of my stomach.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh no, I'm going to faint. But the
Speaker 3: fact about the actor not knowing and then being horrified
Speaker 3: by it, that's they used to love doing that back
Speaker 3: in the day, Like surprising actors with things. And I
Speaker 3: find that so fascinating because obviously, like I can imagine
Speaker 3: that that would be a great vehicle obviously for authenticity
Speaker 3: in the scenes, but just imagine, like, like imagine doing
Speaker 3: that on like how to stay married in this day
Speaker 3: and age and then just being sued and having to
Speaker 3: pay someone's therapy bills and to nurse them back to
Speaker 3: like their regular mental health baseline because you just absolutely
Speaker 3: punked them with a flame thrower coming out of a barbecue.
Speaker 2: Nikki Britain, That's that's who it would be, Poor Nikki.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, And there's a big difference between an
Speaker 1: alien bursting through the chest of John Hurt compared to
Speaker 1: Richard Gere snapping the necklace box on Julia Roberts's fingers
Speaker 1: in Pretty Woman, Like that's there are two different there
Speaker 1: are two different surprises they've pulled. I mean, that's like
Speaker 1: the alien out of the chest is like first season
Speaker 1: of Punts. They're snapping the box at Julie Robinson's fingers.
Speaker 1: That's our series seven. They're running out of ideas.
Speaker 3: Now. There's definitely a spectrum, and I'm sure some of
Speaker 3: them probably slipped straight off the end of that spectrum
Speaker 3: when it comes to legality even at the time. But
Speaker 3: many of those people would argue that it was a
Speaker 3: different time back then, and I'm sure. I'm very happy
Speaker 3: that in the things that I do now, we get
Speaker 3: told what's going to happen. And I certainly haven't been
Speaker 3: invited to act in anything yet involving anything bursting out
Speaker 3: of me, so I guess that's a win.
Speaker 5: Also.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were some ideas we had for your
Speaker 1: butcher character in how to say, there were some bigger ideas.
Speaker 1: You ran out of time on the day there was
Speaker 1: going to be a rack of lamb that just got
Speaker 1: of like burst out.
Speaker 3: It would have been yeah, that's right, it would have
Speaker 3: been the butcher.
Speaker 1: And then and then and then I was going to
Speaker 1: pull out sausages and kept pulling them out and eventually
Speaker 1: there's going to be some flags on them.
Speaker 2: It was going to be quite quite a magic show.
Speaker 3: It was. It was a very tight shedful that day, though,
Speaker 3: so I can appreciate what it had to be cut.
Speaker 1: The other thing we should mention about the face hugger,
Speaker 1: of course, is actually what it's happening, which is, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the articles that I've read and the video
Speaker 1: essays that they even watched about this there is a
Speaker 1: rape going on like that, that's and that's what kind
Speaker 1: of yeah, and then they go too far into but
Speaker 1: the feminist nature of this film. It's about women's rights
Speaker 1: and and it kind of like it looks at, you know,
Speaker 1: as far as the parallels with abortion and rape, and
Speaker 1: as far as having having to bear a child after
Speaker 1: you know, something as horrendous as that happens. So there
Speaker 1: are and these are the things that I mentioned before.
Speaker 1: As far as you can look into these things if
Speaker 1: you want in this film, or you can simply watch
Speaker 1: it as a great fucking popcorn film.
Speaker 3: But it is.
Speaker 2: It is full on.
Speaker 1: But when you when you see that alien pop out,
Speaker 1: dawns on you and immediately, I mean in dawn on
Speaker 1: me immediately because I'm like, I'm still getting over the
Speaker 1: shock of seeing an alien pop out of a chest.
Speaker 1: But when it dawns on you, it's like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's what that's that's what it was doing on his face.
Speaker 1: It was it was seating himself itself on John Hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can confirm that it's quite a shock in
Speaker 3: that moment when you realize that because that moment happened
Speaker 3: for me about ten seconds ago. Well, I'm such a
Speaker 3: superficial latent viewer of everything that, as you were saying it,
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, of course that's what was happening.
Speaker 3: But in my mind the two events were completely isolated.
Speaker 3: The face hug of being on his face and then
Speaker 3: an athalien bursting out of his stomach. We're just two
Speaker 3: coincidences that happened to an unlucky man.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, when I when teenage each Pete was watching Alien
Speaker 1: after he had seen Aliens, I certainly wasn't thinking.
Speaker 2: I certainly wasn't thinking that. I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: cool special effects and nice take on an alien.
Speaker 1: And think when I was watching it last night, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like at the forefront of my mind, this is
Speaker 1: me doing a little bit of deep diving, you know,
Speaker 1: watching a really good video analysis of it. There's all
Speaker 1: these things throughout the film and symbolism like the central
Speaker 1: computer being called Mother. The ship that they go into
Speaker 1: actually kind of it was designed to look like legs
Speaker 1: are wide open, and when they go in, it's quite vaginal,
Speaker 1: if you like, Like, if you look back at it,
Speaker 1: it is quite like it's like I didn't pick that
Speaker 1: up when I was watching it, And I don't think
Speaker 1: you're really supposed to be picking these things up when
Speaker 1: you first view these, you know, these movies.
Speaker 2: I think these are the things that there to be
Speaker 2: analyzed later on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you go back to film class, when you
Speaker 3: got about.
Speaker 2: A film class, when you yeah, when you do a podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but there is comment about male sexual dominance
Speaker 1: being exerted onto women and society that is all through
Speaker 1: this film. So it's there if you want to check
Speaker 1: it out. There's lots of great stuff online about it.
Speaker 1: But back to the popcorn stuff. Ash, and let's talk
Speaker 1: about Ash, who Ian Holm, who you know audience will
Speaker 1: now know from Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.
Speaker 1: But he also shoves like a rolled up poor mag
Speaker 1: into into Ripley's mouth. So that's like another I imagine
Speaker 1: you're suspicious of Ash at some point, like he seems
Speaker 1: to be the one that is not quite on the
Speaker 1: same page as everybody else. He ignores the quarantine rules,
Speaker 1: Dan won't be happy.
Speaker 3: At crime stoppers, yeah, which I did.
Speaker 1: Love when Ripley kind of says, no, you're not coming,
Speaker 1: you're coming back in line, she just does it it's
Speaker 1: just that you're not You're.
Speaker 3: Not absolutely not. Yeah, definitely being able to be a
Speaker 3: thirtive And in that situation, I think, yeah, well you
Speaker 3: bang on. I think from pretty much day dot in
Speaker 3: the film, you're like, hmmm, I don't know what it is,
Speaker 3: but there's something up with Ash, and then uh, that
Speaker 3: is what Like I even like that though, like there's
Speaker 3: a lot of subtleties in Alien and even that, like
Speaker 3: you just for me, I felt like quite uneasy with
Speaker 3: Ash from the get go, and I was like, there
Speaker 3: will be something up, but like nothing that you could
Speaker 3: put your finger on. Definitely nothing that I predicted, like
Speaker 3: you know, when when that was revealed later on, but
Speaker 3: that we were correct and there was something up with Ash,
Speaker 3: it was like, oh okay, interesting, yeah, cool little twist.
Speaker 3: Yeah I hated him, Yeah yeah, you bad guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels uneasy. He's an easy presence on that ship.
Speaker 1: And you know, as soon as the scientist kind of
Speaker 1: goes against the science, like the quarantine, knowing what this
Speaker 1: could do, you feel like, Okay, this guy's not he's
Speaker 1: not one of the good scientists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy's no good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when he.
Speaker 1: Explodes, im, I've kind of forgotten that, and it almost
Speaker 1: took me by a surprise when he literally yeah that
Speaker 1: expression people often. I don't think it's an Australian thing,
Speaker 1: but I'm not your bloody head off. I do wonder
Speaker 1: if it comes from this film, because he really just
Speaker 1: does get his head knocked off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely smashed it, mothering. Yeah, it could be. This
Speaker 3: could be the origin of it. While I remember as well,
Speaker 3: I just confirmed as well that the artist is with
Speaker 3: that created the alien. So we're in we're in the
Speaker 3: b park. But yeah, to go back to that, but yeah,
Speaker 3: he makes quite a well it's not really a demise,
Speaker 3: is it. Ash, Like he kind of is invincible, isn't he?
Speaker 3: But you can't really kill Ash, can you. No?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess, and that's why I think.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure if you've seen two thousand
Speaker 1: and one Space obviously, but the hell three thousand is
Speaker 1: basically omnipresent computer.
Speaker 2: So he doesn't doesn't have a vessel for a body
Speaker 2: or anything.
Speaker 1: He just he just exists, is like an omnipresent red
Speaker 1: light with a voice, and you know, he kind of
Speaker 1: takes over the ship and ing home. Kind of that
Speaker 1: character kind of has you know, he could be hell
Speaker 1: three thousand's you know second cousin, right, And.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a pretty he's a pretty creepy character.
Speaker 1: When when Sigourney Weaver Ripley finds out that they're like
Speaker 1: the corporation doesn't really care the whole that the crew
Speaker 1: are expendable.
Speaker 5: Come the company sent us a goddamn robot.
Speaker 3: All I can think of is they must have wanted
Speaker 3: the alien for the weapons division. It's been protecting it
Speaker 3: right along.
Speaker 5: Parker.
Speaker 3: When you plug it in, I don't know what, because
Speaker 3: he may know how to kill it. What was your
Speaker 3: special order?
Speaker 6: You read it, That's what it was clear?
Speaker 3: What was it? Bring that life?
Speaker 2: For all the priorities you sent it?
Speaker 5: There's a damn company.
Speaker 2: What about our lives? You son of a bitch?
Speaker 6: I repeat?
Speaker 3: Or the priorities? How do we kill it? Ish, there's
Speaker 3: got to be a way of killing it?
Speaker 5: How how do we do it?
Speaker 3: You can't bullshit?
Speaker 4: You still don't understand what your dad. Oh, perfect organism,
Speaker 4: it's structural perfection. Is not stown about hostility.
Speaker 5: You admire it.
Speaker 6: I admire its purity, surviving clothed my conscience from moss
Speaker 6: or delusions of morality.
Speaker 4: But I've heard enough of this and I'm asking you
Speaker 4: to pull the plugst.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 4: I can't lie to you about your chances, but.
Speaker 1: You know my sympathies that serve as a twist for you.
Speaker 1: I felt from me by the time we go there,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I think this. I'm surprised I
Speaker 1: hadn't worked that that by now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I felt like that as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because she was she was raging, which is absolutely fair enough,
Speaker 3: except obviously the level of rage that she felt when
Speaker 3: she found out that indicates to you as a viewer
Speaker 3: that she was like I had absolutely no idea that
Speaker 3: that was the case. Like it was a massive revelation
Speaker 3: to her that like really deeply upset her. Where it
Speaker 3: was for the viewers, it was obvious within probably minutes
Speaker 3: of starting to watch the film that nobody was too
Speaker 3: bothered about their welfare. But she was like like outraged,
Speaker 3: And it was like, mate, well, like you've been busy
Speaker 3: on that ship, like burying your head in the sand somewhere,
Speaker 3: because it was very very obvious. But yeah, she because
Speaker 3: she yeah, she goes storming off, doesn't she. And that's
Speaker 3: when Ash starts to try and like lock her in
Speaker 3: like to the little area and whatever, and that's when
Speaker 3: all of that comes to a head. But yeah, absolutely enraged.
Speaker 3: It's like, but mate, I mean, I think we all
Speaker 3: know that of corporations anyway, just in general, like, let
Speaker 3: alone that specific.
Speaker 1: One, and the seventies are really massive about that. There
Speaker 1: was a rare time in history where the left and
Speaker 1: right kind of agreed that, you know, America is government
Speaker 1: and leadership had been ship house and had led them
Speaker 1: to Vietnam. And so even films like you know, Rambo,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of look at that kind of anti authority,
Speaker 1: anti corporation kind of thing is very big in a
Speaker 1: lot of seventies films, and that's you know, it's right
Speaker 1: in the center of this one. Did you get to
Speaker 1: the point where you thought, shit, okay, shit, how is
Speaker 1: she going.
Speaker 3: To do this?
Speaker 2: I assumeing you there were sequels? But did you know that?
Speaker 3: Weaver?
Speaker 1: And of course, if you're listening to this, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: you've seen the film. But if you haven't, some people
Speaker 1: occasionally do listen to the podcast before they watch a film.
Speaker 1: I've been told, so maybe stop now, because yeah, stop now,
Speaker 1: go watch it.
Speaker 3: But did you?
Speaker 2: But did you? Were you confident the scorny weaver Ripley
Speaker 2: was going to survive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, but only only because it just felt
Speaker 3: like the kind of film in which she was going
Speaker 3: to have to the way that they'd set her up
Speaker 3: is this big, strong character, and you know, she's very
Speaker 3: stoic and staunch and just just getting shit done from
Speaker 3: the get go. That I think for me, like I
Speaker 3: didn't give it a great deal of thought, Like I
Speaker 3: wasn't like, oh, I wonder what the logistics of this
Speaker 3: will be, but I was just like, they've set up
Speaker 3: this character who is one hundred percent game to triumph,
Speaker 3: you know, Like it definitely it felt like she had
Speaker 3: all odds stacked against her, like for anyone who has
Speaker 3: persisted now despite having not watched it, Like, the thing's
Speaker 3: got a lot of teeth, right, I know we've mentioned
Speaker 3: it before, but I can't stress it enough. It's got
Speaker 3: a lot of teeth. It's very damn So my initial
Speaker 3: concerns were, how will she get a grip on it?
Speaker 3: It's too slippery, it's so wet, and then it's going
Speaker 3: to munch her. It's got so many teeth. But you
Speaker 3: just know, you just had faith. You were like, no,
Speaker 3: she's she's a betass. She's going to get it, and
Speaker 3: then the way in which she does is actually incredible,
Speaker 3: and I don't think anybody would predict.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a great job of coming up in
Speaker 1: these heroic stories. There always has to be a failed attempt,
Speaker 1: like the bit where you kind of go, oh, this
Speaker 1: is how she's going to get off it, Like when
Speaker 1: she's going to basically launch herself away in the other
Speaker 1: the smaller space shuttle, I forget what it's escape pod,
Speaker 1: let's call it. Yeah, I'll do that, and she kind
Speaker 1: of sets it all up and it's like, you know
Speaker 1: it's gonna and then she's gonna explode the the main
Speaker 1: vessel and it's t minus you know, thirty for extermination,
Speaker 1: so the clocks up against it, and then she realizes
Speaker 1: she can't she can't do it.
Speaker 2: She's got to reverse it.
Speaker 1: That it was such a brilliant scene because it was
Speaker 1: so tense, and this is a great, great example of
Speaker 1: your hero needs to fail before they can succeed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And it just builds up that tension as well,
Speaker 3: doesn't it, where you're like, oh, oh, maybe maybe she
Speaker 3: won't be able to do it. Oh No, Like otherwise
Speaker 3: if she just suddenly has all these amazing tools and
Speaker 3: like just has all of this weaponry at her disposal,
Speaker 3: and you're just like, oh, okay, so now they've just
Speaker 3: got to stretch it out for another fifteen minutes to
Speaker 3: make it a proper feature length film. But she's got
Speaker 3: this in the bag. So you need to have that
Speaker 3: bit where you're like, oh no, oh no, she's still human.
Speaker 3: Oh oh no, she's dropped the gun. You know, those
Speaker 3: kind of moments, And that.
Speaker 1: Is why really Scott literally strips riply down to her
Speaker 1: underwear and T shirt, which may play a part in
Speaker 1: her being a feminist icon, you know, and and the
Speaker 1: gay icon. I don't know, you can you can tell me.
Speaker 1: But when that first happened, I remember thinking, ah, that's right, Like,
Speaker 1: does does it need? Does this need to happen? I
Speaker 1: do understand the idea that no, we are taking everything
Speaker 1: away from you. We can see that you have not
Speaker 1: You are literally you have nothing, you know, basically nothing
Speaker 1: on you. You are literally naked and vulnerable right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and bad enough to bad us enough to rise
Speaker 3: like a phoenix from the ashes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a brilliant climax to this
Speaker 2: like you and and the you know, and we've seen
Speaker 2: it before.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a trope where you think you've got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: leans out of the ship, but the gun gets stuck
Speaker 1: just when you think you've actually won.
Speaker 2: You haven't quite won just yet, but she prevails, she
Speaker 2: short us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ripley, was that that was so like luster? Wasn't it?
Speaker 6: Like it?
Speaker 3: It felt genuine? But then yeah, like upon review, I
Speaker 3: was like, no, that would have sounded like almost sarcastic,
Speaker 3: but I meant it good on you, Ripley, you get
Speaker 3: away from her. You bit.
Speaker 1: When you saw that where you saw a Ripley in
Speaker 1: a in a T shirt and underwear what like what
Speaker 1: you know and whatever reaction it might be. But what
Speaker 1: what was your reaction like? Was it here we go again?
Speaker 1: Or was it oh cool? Or was it somewhere in between?
Speaker 3: Probably probably somewhere in between. I mean, I think when
Speaker 3: I'm watching things, I often like take them very much
Speaker 3: just face value, and then it's later on when I'm
Speaker 3: like thinking back over it or whatever that sometimes I'm like, ah,
Speaker 3: that was for shuitous or there was no need for that,
Speaker 3: or and particularly in in things from decades ago, like often,
Speaker 3: you know, often we look back on them and we're like, well,
Speaker 3: how come the women were we're like scantily clad the
Speaker 3: whole way through that film, and all the men were
Speaker 3: just regular in regular clothes or whatever. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't give it much thought at the time. I guess
Speaker 3: this is me processing it now. What you said though,
Speaker 3: is yeah, I mean, it's it's always going to be
Speaker 3: a double edged sword, isn't it, Because I think you're
Speaker 3: right in that the idea most likely was that she's
Speaker 3: been left with almost nothing, like in a completely vulnerable state.
Speaker 3: But then which in if you're looking at it in
Speaker 3: that light, like that's really presenting her as incredibly bad
Speaker 3: us like being able to have nothing, equipped with virtually
Speaker 3: nothing and still being able to triumph. But then on
Speaker 3: the flip side of it, of course, it's like, well
Speaker 3: is that the real reason as well? You know, I
Speaker 3: think you can be a bit cynical about it and
Speaker 3: like would and how you were saying before about how
Speaker 3: the roles in the film were interchangeable when they sort
Speaker 3: of envisaged it and they were like they could be
Speaker 3: played by you know, male or female actors. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I think our minds always go to like, would would
Speaker 3: they have had if Ripley had been a gentleman? Would
Speaker 3: he have been in his tidy whiting is at the
Speaker 3: end mhm, And maybe he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: We'll never know, no, no, because really Scott refuses to
Speaker 1: come on this podcast and discuss it, just.
Speaker 3: Like Ridley Scott. Do you know who I reckon? Would
Speaker 3: come on? Though? Alice Garner, Well, I feel I.
Speaker 2: Feel like.
Speaker 3: We've just given her all of this unwanted attention today.
Speaker 3: I think she over.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got some fun facts. Is the wind? The wind?
Speaker 2: This up? This movie?
Speaker 1: And we've already discussed about the genius of its title Alien.
Speaker 1: But it was originally called Starbeast and the writer did
Speaker 1: not like but didn't really like it, but just you know,
Speaker 1: it was, you know, a place filler for a while.
Speaker 1: And then one day as he was writing dialogue I think,
Speaker 1: and he wrote the word alien, and for some reason
Speaker 1: it popped out, and then a franchise was born. Part
Speaker 1: of this getting made. They were struggling to get it made.
Speaker 1: A little film called Star Wars comes out in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy seven. All of a sudden, science fiction was hot,
Speaker 1: so that escalated the interests in Alien. So Star Wars
Speaker 1: it's the gift that keeps on giving. It helped get
Speaker 1: Alien made Ash was not in the original scripts. That
Speaker 1: was one of the producer's idea. The writer again, Dan O'Bannon,
Speaker 1: didn't like. I didn't like it as an idea, still
Speaker 1: didn't need it. He kind of I think it was
Speaker 1: on record of saying so he's a robot who cares,
Speaker 1: which I kind of get that, but I must say
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I thought it was pretty cool. So
Speaker 1: they're not in the original scripts. Roger Daltrey from The
Speaker 1: Who actually helped. There's a like a laser, a blue
Speaker 1: beam laser. I think when I think it's when John
Speaker 1: hurt and it's around the face hugging scene. Roger Joeltry
Speaker 1: was in like a factory next door where they were
Speaker 1: making this and was just macking around with lasers for
Speaker 1: I guess Who's live shows and got chatting with Ribley
Speaker 1: Scott and ended up letting them borrow their lasers.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 3: Oh that's an obscure fact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fans of the Who, not only the Star
Speaker 1: Wars helped get Mate, also Who did as well. And
Speaker 1: my final fun fact which is an ending that they
Speaker 1: shot which they didn't go with, which had Ripley encountering
Speaker 1: Dallas and Brett wrapped in this alien cocoon, and Dallas,
Speaker 1: Tom Scarett said, was able to kind of manage a
Speaker 1: couple of words, but it's becomes quite evident they're about,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're they're either about to die or
Speaker 1: life is getting sucked from them. And so Ripley, continuing
Speaker 1: her bad ass form, basically takes a flamethrower to the cocoon,
Speaker 1: the entire alien cocoon, and gets rid of it. I
Speaker 1: guess euthanizing the crew, which makes you pretty bad ass.
Speaker 1: But it was felt that slowed the film down, and
Speaker 1: I think they're right. I think it sounds like an
Speaker 1: awesome scene, but I kind of like, like these seventies
Speaker 1: films we discussed a lot on this podcast Cursty, they
Speaker 1: just get in. They're getting late. Alien does take its
Speaker 1: time at the start, but jeez, they leave as soon
Speaker 1: as the one. I keep on referring to his jaws,
Speaker 1: like they don't even make it after they killed the shit.
Speaker 1: They don't even make it back to the beach. For
Speaker 1: like the celebration, there's no in an Alien, there's no
Speaker 1: homecoming for Ripley, and I think you mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 1: We don't know anything. We don't know anything about whether
Speaker 1: she's got a partner, a family, you know, kids, and
Speaker 1: it just does not matter.
Speaker 2: And I think the movie's better for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love that as well. But it's just like,
Speaker 3: all right, we did the thing. It's finished. Now, end credits.
Speaker 3: Like every film, so Alien, Aliens and then Aliens three
Speaker 3: last night, each one that we've watched, like every time,
Speaker 3: I've been like, oh, it's the credits, just expecting them
Speaker 3: to have that like fade to black and now up
Speaker 3: we come, and now they're back in the office on
Speaker 3: Earth and they're explaining how everything's fine, okay, lovely, but
Speaker 3: there's a little disaster looming around the corner. So we
Speaker 3: know there's going to be a sequel, all right, closing credits.
Speaker 3: But with Alien, it's just like, all right, the job's
Speaker 3: been done, boom directed by.
Speaker 2: It's so great.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, they wouldn't have known how
Speaker 1: this film is going to be, you know, they may
Speaker 1: have been confident. So I like that this works perfectly
Speaker 1: as a film by itself. And there are not too
Speaker 1: many more questions. You know, you could obviously come up
Speaker 1: with lots of questions, but it feels satisfying. But there's
Speaker 1: still obviously space for the sequel because Ripley's alive and
Speaker 1: we know, we also guess that there's not just one
Speaker 1: alien out there, and that's why I add the S
Speaker 1: to the sequel.
Speaker 3: I guess, but to indicate a plur rule.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, Kirsty.
Speaker 1: This podcast comes with homework, and you're outdone yourself. Not
Speaker 1: only did you watch a but you've watched a trilogy
Speaker 1: in preparation. I thank you so much for doing that.
Speaker 3: Oh my absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for having
Speaker 3: me on and giving me the homework, and forgiving me
Speaker 3: for ruining the beginning segment with my confession about the
Speaker 3: never ending story, my bombshell never ending story gate.
Speaker 2: I think you know, I was rattled for a while,
Speaker 2: but I think I gathered myself. I pushed on, Well, you.
Speaker 3: Realize that you've got to get the episode out anyway,
Speaker 3: so you had to. You had to put the big,
Speaker 3: ugly mess behind you.
Speaker 2: It was a turning point when you know, you mentioned
Speaker 2: you'd watched three alien films. That was Yeah, that's that's what.
Speaker 3: It has been a real It's been a real redemption story,
Speaker 3: hasn't it that you didn't expect.
Speaker 1: When I did a movie version of this episode. I
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna play you. Philip Seama Hoffwin
Speaker 1: would play me if you're still with us, But.
Speaker 3: I mean, just off the top of my head, we
Speaker 3: could see if Alice Garner was willing to come out
Speaker 3: of retirement.
Speaker 1: That seems like the perfect place to wrap this up.
Speaker 1: You are an absolute legend, Kirsty. We are recording this
Speaker 1: in Lockdown Lockdown number six six point three, as I
Speaker 1: like to call it. You are doing fantastic stuff. I've
Speaker 1: mentioned it in the intro. But your your Zoom comedy
Speaker 1: shows have giving a lot of laughs and love to
Speaker 1: a lot of people in a pretty dark time. So
Speaker 1: well done for doing those and how are you doing
Speaker 1: for you? It's going to keep on until this madness continues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to keep going now that I realize
Speaker 3: how much you know, people are looking forward to them,
Speaker 3: and exactly how much joy they're they're giving people, and
Speaker 3: you know they're a lovely gig for comedians as well. Yes,
Speaker 3: I am trying to sell it to you. Pete, but
Speaker 3: they they are. Like I thought it was going to
Speaker 3: be a one off a few weeks ago, and there
Speaker 3: was such a demand for it that I've kept going,
Speaker 3: and I think tonight we're doing our fourth show, or
Speaker 3: maybe even fit but anyway, there's six hundred people so
Speaker 3: far coming tonight, and that's wild to me that people
Speaker 3: need to laugh so hard that they're getting around these shows.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a beautiful little community that we've managed
Speaker 3: to harness. So yeah, I'll keep going while other people
Speaker 3: still need something to laugh about. I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what on to you, mate? And for those who
Speaker 1: aren't following you on Twitter, shame on you. You really should.
Speaker 1: Your commentary sometimes COVID relatable, you know, mostly not, is
Speaker 1: always hilarious, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep it up, thanks, Legend, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I told you Cursey was fun. I told you she
Speaker 1: was funny, and I told you she was joyous. That
Speaker 1: was a really fun chat. I have gigged quite a
Speaker 1: bit with Cursey over the last few years, probably not
Speaker 1: particularly recently, but before everything turned the shit, we gigged
Speaker 1: quite a bit and I saw a show this is
Speaker 1: at Melburn International Comedy Festival and it was just great.
Speaker 1: I think she's so funny, So follow her on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Kursey Weebeck and check out her live zoom shows
Speaker 1: she's doing during Lockdown as well. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for everyone, Thanks to Derek Meyers from Castaways Studios. We
Speaker 1: are obviously doing this in Lockdown. We are doing this online,
Speaker 1: not in the comforts of Castaway Studios. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to get back in there. But how are you doing, Derek?
Speaker 5: Really good? What a cac I had my mike muted
Speaker 5: during that episode and my kids had to come into
Speaker 5: check if I was all right because I was laughing
Speaker 5: my head off. I felt guilty for not paying a
Speaker 5: subscription to be watching comedy online.
Speaker 1: That is That's That's quite the review. Your kids probably
Speaker 1: came in to ask who Alis Garner was potentially that is?
Speaker 2: That is great.
Speaker 1: She's such a cack Kirsty So. And speaking of reviews,
Speaker 1: people can leave reviews. Where can they leave them, Derek?
Speaker 5: That'd be great. You can choose how many stars and
Speaker 5: writing five? Yes, okay, there's one choice and leaves a
Speaker 5: nice note on there. That'd be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll read it out. We'll make you podcast famous.
Speaker 1: So and you cannot ye get on to us at
Speaker 1: Yasney podcast at gmail dot com. I'm loving getting your
Speaker 1: emails as we both are. In fact, Derek, you found
Speaker 1: one to read out from Wayne.
Speaker 5: And Wayne says, Hi, Pete, just listen to the French
Speaker 5: Connection episode. You asked how we viewed the issues portrayed
Speaker 5: back in nineteen seventy one that Married with Children was
Speaker 5: about a serial killer Ted Bundy?
Speaker 2: Did I get l Bundy and Ted Bundy conviewsed.
Speaker 5: I might have slipped through the keeper that butte good work, Wayne,
Speaker 5: love the podcast, movie, Wednesday Morning, Podcast Wednesday Afternoon. Excellent regards.
Speaker 2: Wayne. It's a good system. Wayne.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm constantly surprised and how quickly some of our
Speaker 1: feedback comes via the email people somebody sitting up on
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter, how quickly people are getting through the podcast.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's ten o'clock on a Wednesday morning and then
Speaker 1: people have already listened to the episode.
Speaker 2: So thrilled by that.
Speaker 1: Thank you Wayne, Thank you everyone who's been writing in
Speaker 1: and yeah, we're loving doing it.
Speaker 2: We only have a couple of.
Speaker 1: Episodes for this series where we will take a little break,
Speaker 1: recharge our batteries, get a few interviews and episodes in
Speaker 1: the can, but we will try not to make it
Speaker 1: a long break. But in the met time there are
Speaker 1: bold There will be sixty sixty episodes, in fact, sixty
Speaker 1: one episodes for you to listen to, to catch up on,
Speaker 1: to check out the movies that we discussed, So you
Speaker 1: can do that in the interim.
Speaker 2: Next week on the show.
Speaker 1: Very excited, one of my one of my favorite comedians
Speaker 1: on the scene all the way from Queensland.
Speaker 2: It's an hour of power. Damien Power on the show
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 1: He'll be watching for the first time another John Hughes classic,
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. We are getting through much of John
Speaker 1: Hughes's back catalog, The Breakfast Club next week with Damien Power.
Speaker 2: Check it out.
Speaker 4: And so we leave all Pete save Lanceal and to
Speaker 4: our friends of the radio audience, we've been a pleasant
Speaker 4: good name.