Speaker 1: Hey, let's just welcome back to the Mason Cox Show.
Speaker 1: We have a big episode today. We have things all
Speaker 1: football and also we talk about a bit of politics
Speaker 1: Trump what happened over the weekend absolutely insane. We'll get
Speaker 1: into that. We also talk about a lightning strike that
Speaker 1: hit an AFL player who had an incredible game over
Speaker 1: the weekend. There's plenty of that. And last so we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about my injury, whether or not I'll
Speaker 1: be playing this week, and how I'm feeling. There's a
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Speaker 1: thanks for tuning out as always, but we'll get straight
Speaker 1: into this one. Welcome Brydon oh Mace.
Speaker 2: We have actually so much packed into this episode, probably
Speaker 2: too much, as per usual, too much. But we'll get
Speaker 2: straight into the clangers because I love Ross Line. We
Speaker 2: are a big fan of ROSSI, and there may be
Speaker 2: a ross Lin klanger, so I'm going to try and
Speaker 2: stretch it so it's not a Ross Line clanger. Because
Speaker 2: there was a couple of incidents in his game. So
Speaker 2: Kilda went back to a bit of the smelly stuff
Speaker 2: last over the weekend, kicked thirty odd points or whatever,
Speaker 2: but there was a moment in the box where he
Speaker 2: may have got a bit miffed, rightfully so, and smashed
Speaker 2: the phone on the desk and it just exploded into
Speaker 2: a million pieces. Now Ross we know sploded. He's on
Speaker 2: the good stuff, and he found the humor in it,
Speaker 2: which is Ross Line, the new Ross Line, and he
Speaker 2: put it all back together like it was a piece
Speaker 2: of lego, and then not long later smashed it again.
Speaker 2: Then he had to reach into the back row and
Speaker 2: ask one of the assistants if he could borrow their phone.
Speaker 2: Really reminiscent of me back on the PlayStation, back in
Speaker 2: the day, when you'd throw the controller down on the
Speaker 2: ground and then you'd like still be miffed, and then
Speaker 2: you realize that you need the controller to play the game,
Speaker 2: and then do the you know, the walk with your
Speaker 2: tail between your legs over to pick up the controller.
Speaker 2: He did a bit of that, but I'm gonna clang
Speaker 2: whoever's making those phones. He hardly hit it on the
Speaker 2: desk and it's a light shouted into a million pieces.
Speaker 2: He needs some harder phone stuff. If it was a
Speaker 2: KNOCKI a thirty two ten. He could slam that thing
Speaker 2: on the desk and it'll break the desk. So I
Speaker 2: think things are getting cheaper, So I'm I'm blaming the economy.
Speaker 1: Haven't got inflation. He's an angel, you imagine sitting there
Speaker 1: and he's got to douse someone else's phone. So he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: such such assistance on the phone. You're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get an absolute just pomp up here,
Speaker 1: and it's ross. You go, what the effort? You just
Speaker 1: like at you, Oh, someone I expected.
Speaker 2: He's asking for your phone. I'm like, I brought my
Speaker 2: phone from home. This one's my one. I don't want
Speaker 2: you to smash.
Speaker 1: I'll get it to Mike Clanger was during the Callingwood
Speaker 1: versus Geelong game. No We talked about some of the
Speaker 1: best swingmen last week, and the big man, Mark Blitzabs
Speaker 1: came up as one of the best swingmen over the weekend.
Speaker 1: He was trying to play every single role from every
Speaker 1: single sport. I think by the time he was finishing
Speaker 1: the game, he had one point. There's a free kick,
Speaker 1: and he grabbed the ball and threw it, but themar
Speaker 1: had already called play on so it was not illegal disposal,
Speaker 1: you could say. And he threw it back and it
Speaker 1: was just one of those moments you could just see
Speaker 1: the brain fart in his head and he's just gone, yeah, Caps,
Speaker 1: just cruise back and defense and sort this out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think a couple of the boys around
Speaker 2: him it was like Nick Dacos and Steel was like
Speaker 2: so happy. They were like, oh my god, they just
Speaker 2: turned it over.
Speaker 1: It's a free kick against I've just got it back
Speaker 1: two seconds later.
Speaker 2: That's good. You can get where we can get it.
Speaker 2: You can't take every roll, blitz You need to hand
Speaker 2: some off on not the way that you handed them off,
Speaker 2: but handballs. Let's get through some of the results. Because
Speaker 2: Collingwood they took the l we won't go into that
Speaker 2: one yet. Hawthorne. They got the w over Frio in
Speaker 2: a tight game down in tazzy Sydney back to winning ways,
Speaker 2: smashed North Melbourne Western Bulldogs, massive win over Carlton, Adelaide
Speaker 2: got it done over Ross's boys in pouring rain, terrible,
Speaker 2: terrible conditions. Melbourne with a big win over Essendon who
Speaker 2: just weren't quite there. Gold Coast big win over Port
Speaker 2: who they were fighting hard. They were really fighting hard,
Speaker 2: both you know, on the scoreboard and Horny Frank through
Speaker 2: a fews of the ground. But we'll get into that later.
Speaker 2: Richmond they put in a competitive competitive performance against my boys,
Speaker 2: the Giants, but they're back on a roll. And West
Speaker 2: Coast Eagles almost spoiled Brisbees. They for Simo, we got
Speaker 2: out there. He didn't coach, but he'd tossed the coin.
Speaker 2: He did all the important stuff.
Speaker 1: We could have gone into one hundred klangers on the
Speaker 1: way that situation was handled over the last week. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but I think Simmo I just love
Speaker 1: his comedic value of like, yeah, I'm getting absolutely screwed here,
Speaker 1: and he's just acknowledged it essentially publicly, and they've asked
Speaker 1: him to do what as a bit of a thank
Speaker 1: you for giving us a premiership and everything else. Flipping
Speaker 1: a coin in the next game after you got sacked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much like getting invited to the Christmas
Speaker 2: party after you got the sack. Oh my god, It's
Speaker 2: like he was there with his vintage jumper. He got
Speaker 2: to keep the coin. So I guess ten years of
Speaker 2: coaching's all worth it because you get to keep that coin.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was always up the back and they
Speaker 2: kept cutting to the angle of him in the crowd.
Speaker 2: I think one thing that I can confidently say is
Speaker 2: that the newspaper article that obviously the West rolled out
Speaker 2: there was dog shit, actually ended up working in his
Speaker 2: favor because it brought everyone together. Whereas like there could
Speaker 2: have been some like awkwardness and all that stuff. Everyone
Speaker 2: rallied and galvanized over their hatred for the print media,
Speaker 2: and then like every time so Simo was on the screen,
Speaker 2: everyone gave him like a big clap and cheer. It
Speaker 2: was awesome to see. So I'm glad it was a
Speaker 2: little awkward, But thank you to the Western Australian.
Speaker 1: For writing the article.
Speaker 2: Well, like I think.
Speaker 1: From you this week, this is very unusual.
Speaker 2: Well backfired on them because I you know, they were
Speaker 2: a bit petty because their boy wouldcock got called out
Speaker 2: in the in the press conference for right and all
Speaker 2: the negative.
Speaker 1: Gen everyone clapped the fact that you're absolute prick, especially.
Speaker 2: You think it's like you're it's almost like your home field.
Speaker 2: You're like, you've got journos and stuff around you, but
Speaker 2: there's still all the players rock up and give you
Speaker 2: a standing a Let's jump into some big talking points
Speaker 2: from throughout the week, because we've seen some new interpretations,
Speaker 2: some running changes on the fly. We always love to
Speaker 2: see that we've seen obviously every time you have a
Speaker 2: different interpretation or a rule change or anything, there's always
Speaker 2: a clubs and players figure it out pretty quick and
Speaker 2: then figure out a loophole and how to take advantage
Speaker 2: of that situation. And we're seeing this chicken wing kind
Speaker 2: of tackle that has always been praised. Whenever it's everyone
Speaker 2: would always call it the perfect tackle. It's the perfect tackle.
Speaker 2: You hold one arm behind their back so that they
Speaker 2: can't really do anything with it, and it's being rewarded
Speaker 2: for the most part. At the moment with players, when
Speaker 2: you're watching the game, it's like, why win the ball?
Speaker 2: There was a couple of instances on in the Collingwood
Speaker 2: Geelong game, Steel picked up the ball, was already immediately tackled,
Speaker 2: one arm behind his back, got ping for holding the
Speaker 2: ball when previously there was probably no prior. But that
Speaker 2: seems to have taken a back seat. There was Nick Dekos. Yeah,
Speaker 2: picked up the ball immediately chicken wing and he was
Speaker 2: on his knees. Zero things you can do in that
Speaker 2: circumstance holding the ball because he had one arm free.
Speaker 2: Now we're just it's going to get murkier and murkier.
Speaker 2: But I can see injuries coming in as players are
Speaker 2: getting rewarded with three kicks for these like you've got
Speaker 2: one arm free but one arms pinged and we're going,
Speaker 2: I reckon, We're going to start seeing people get slung
Speaker 2: into the ground with one arm like pinned behind their back.
Speaker 2: They're going to have their head just super exposed. There's
Speaker 2: going to be more suspensions for those tackles. You bring
Speaker 2: in one rule or in difference in interpretation and it
Speaker 2: opens up fifty different issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think this is like, so you say
Speaker 1: there's two sides of the coin of everything, right, So
Speaker 1: obviously this year everyone is quite aware that the umpire
Speaker 1: is a bit hard on, you know, not falling on
Speaker 1: the ball and like needing to get the ball out
Speaker 1: of your hands otherwise they'll call free kick. So you know,
Speaker 1: now that people have realized that's the case, and umpires
Speaker 1: are on it, and they're continuously being on it, they've gone, okay,
Speaker 1: hold on. So if I allow him just to get
Speaker 1: it and then I tackle him right away, if he
Speaker 1: doesn't get rid of it, then it's holding the ball,
Speaker 1: or if he doesn't do it legally too, that's holding
Speaker 1: the ball. So it's like, okay, well, maybe I'll just
Speaker 1: so it's going in there and like smash. It's like
Speaker 1: I can almost get a free kick here if I
Speaker 1: just wait for him to grab it and then lock
Speaker 1: him up right away. And there's a real kind of
Speaker 1: I don't know, like you're not one hundred percent sure
Speaker 1: that half second to a second of having the ball
Speaker 1: of whether or not you have prior opportunity or not.
Speaker 1: I think there's a big kind of judgment there that
Speaker 1: the umpires are probably you know, trying to sort out,
Speaker 1: and the players are sitting there and some of the
Speaker 1: players on the weekend, you know, whenever you lay a
Speaker 1: tackle you're going, oh, snap, Like I kind of thought
Speaker 1: we'd get a ball up here, but I'm getting a
Speaker 1: free kick. So yeah, there's there's two sides to the
Speaker 1: to the spectrum as always, and I think there's teams
Speaker 1: now being able to see kind of advantages and in
Speaker 1: that being able to use the fact that teams are
Speaker 1: going to have to forcefully get the ball out as
Speaker 1: quickly as they can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be very interesting because, yeah, I
Speaker 2: say it, players don't want to take play to ground,
Speaker 2: so they're just holding them up in the tackle, which
Speaker 2: means they've got an arm free and they have to
Speaker 2: try and get rid of it. But I just don't
Speaker 2: understand what the point of winning the ball is. If
Speaker 2: you're always going to win the ball, that's all you always.
Speaker 2: If you can't get rid of it and you're just
Speaker 2: going to get like ping for holding the ball, it's
Speaker 2: given you very little incentive to actually win it. We'll
Speaker 2: move into something that Chris got brought up postgame in
Speaker 2: the Collingwood game. It always helps when the winning coach
Speaker 2: brings up an issue because it doesn't mean they're just salty,
Speaker 2: and he brought up the fact that there seemed to
Speaker 2: be a lot of non fifteen meters calls throughout the
Speaker 2: course of the night, and it started hot straight away.
Speaker 1: So I think Bobby kicked Jamie that was about fifteen
Speaker 1: meters and they said play on and the goal.
Speaker 2: And normally that on the opposite side, if it's like
Speaker 2: bird into fifteen, they normally say that's close enough. Whereas
Speaker 2: Chris came out and said that Chris Scott, I don't
Speaker 2: we're not buddies.
Speaker 1: Chris all mate, oh mate, Scott.
Speaker 2: He came out and said that it hadn't been communicated
Speaker 2: to the clubs, which is always the interesting thing. And
Speaker 2: we have talked about this throughout the course of the year,
Speaker 2: where interpretations will be changed, there will be hotter rules
Speaker 2: than others on any certain night. It's just important to
Speaker 2: tell the players where I think now it's at the
Speaker 2: point where if there's going to be a difference in interpretation,
Speaker 2: or there's going to be we always call it like
Speaker 2: the hot rule for the night or whatever. We need
Speaker 2: to be telling everyone. It can't be like we'll figure
Speaker 2: it out on the Friday night game. Watch the Friday
Speaker 2: night game. Figure it out. AFL should be releasing a
Speaker 2: statement heading into the weekend to everyone, so fans know
Speaker 2: it's coming and they can react accordingly. They're not thinking
Speaker 2: they're getting screwed over or the umpires are against them.
Speaker 2: If we're looking at it from we're trying to protect
Speaker 2: the umpires here, so you can save them a hell
Speaker 2: of a lot of abuse. If you're saying the AFL's
Speaker 2: come out and we're telling the umpires to adjudicate it
Speaker 2: this way this weekend so everyone knows. Is that the
Speaker 2: way that we're going to have to start handling this.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably the best way. It just kind
Speaker 1: of allows for that clarity between the fans, the clubs,
Speaker 1: and you know, umpires and just being able to get
Speaker 1: everyone on the same page, because if you do, you know,
Speaker 1: send the memo out to the club and then the
Speaker 1: colts go to update their players and it's this whole
Speaker 1: thing where you know, if it was a public statement
Speaker 1: like not only obviously is it going to have the
Speaker 1: same effect as if it's released within the club, because
Speaker 1: you'll see it on social media wherever it may not be. Also,
Speaker 1: I think it's just good for the fans to be
Speaker 1: aware of it too, so then whenever you get to
Speaker 1: the football you know this Let's say it's fifteen minute
Speaker 1: kick and they call it under fifteen meters. The fans
Speaker 1: understand why it's happening, not going that's odd, that's not
Speaker 1: fifteen meters, that's fifteen meters. But whatever it is, they're
Speaker 1: not beraiding the people on the ground because they're in
Speaker 1: this the loop just as much as the players, the
Speaker 1: umpires and everyone else it's involved in the industry. So
Speaker 1: you would think you just make a public statement, But
Speaker 1: I understand whenever you make a public statement, then that
Speaker 1: causes five six days of people reacting to it and
Speaker 1: then the media does a big thing. So like it
Speaker 1: can be somewhat negative. I guess from that standpoint of
Speaker 1: people coming at you for changing the rules, But what
Speaker 1: would you rather be proactive or reactive to after it happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all know communication is key in every facet
Speaker 2: of life. But I would have thought that they would
Speaker 2: like the AFL like to be the talking point in
Speaker 2: all things sport. I would think that they would like
Speaker 2: to be the talking point on the way into games,
Speaker 2: and save the umpires, being the talking point on the
Speaker 2: way out of games. But that's just me and who
Speaker 2: am I. We'll talk about these three teams because I
Speaker 2: want to get your opinion on this. We're going to
Speaker 2: be on Wooden Spoon watch because we've got a number
Speaker 2: one draft pick in the way that the system's all
Speaker 2: set up. And we saw last year North Melbourne costs
Speaker 2: themselves Harley reed, which in hindsight may have cost them
Speaker 2: dearly because he turns out he's a pretty good So
Speaker 2: we look ahead to this year and we've still got North,
Speaker 2: the Eagles, and the Tigers that are all down the
Speaker 2: bottom of the ladder fighting for this number one pick. Now,
Speaker 2: they've all had patches throughout the year where they've actually
Speaker 2: been quite competitive. They've had a little run and can
Speaker 2: cost themselves a number one pick. Are we still going
Speaker 2: to do this again? Is North going to make the
Speaker 2: same mistakes they've been very competitive? Or like, what do
Speaker 2: we want? Do we still think that wins on the
Speaker 2: board are better than draft picks in the pocket? And
Speaker 2: out of those three teams, who do we think needs
Speaker 2: the pick the most? Because I'm thinking it's not North anymore?
Speaker 1: Now, don't I don't think North needs anymore. I think
Speaker 1: more than anything, they just need experience in their players.
Speaker 1: They've had so many people that are young and youth
Speaker 1: will come through there and get drafted, and they're playing
Speaker 1: quite a young squad that now. More than anything, like
Speaker 1: you just want them to gain confidence through wins to
Speaker 1: say like, no, no, we can have a season where
Speaker 1: we kind of you know, make a push for finals.
Speaker 1: And you know, they've they've had it, They've pushed teams.
Speaker 1: I think in the first half of the season like
Speaker 1: they were you know, like they didn't have a single game.
Speaker 1: I feel like that they were blown out in so
Speaker 1: North was really hanging in there. The Eagles have done
Speaker 1: the same thing for a fair chunk of it. Now
Speaker 1: the Eagles are kind of in between i'd say, like
Speaker 1: whether or not they need new people or not, Like
Speaker 1: I think they you know, obviously they've got a few
Speaker 1: people who just signed now, but Harley Reed's always going
Speaker 1: to be that person that they look to try to
Speaker 1: put as many games into and you know, he is the.
Speaker 2: Future of the club.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Tigers obviously a bit of rebuilding.
Speaker 1: They're going to probably want a number one draft pick
Speaker 1: come through there for a bit of something positive and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, something to look forward to whenever it comes
Speaker 1: to their club. So I almost go North, No, Eagles
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Tigers.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I get a lot.
Speaker 2: It's not a compensation pick, so that's something very different.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad now looking at North that there's like
Speaker 2: you don't give these compensation picks out lightly. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: been teams that are well down the bottom of the
Speaker 2: ladder and dwell down there for a long time, like North,
Speaker 2: and you might want to consider giving them a pick,
Speaker 2: But I think you look at their list, you look
Speaker 2: at the coach that they've got in there. They got
Speaker 2: all the right things in there. You don't need to
Speaker 2: be screwing with other people's draft position just to look
Speaker 2: after them. I think they're in a pretty good spot.
Speaker 2: And then the other two have had success, so they
Speaker 2: had the success and have fallen down. So I'm happy
Speaker 2: for no priority picks for them, and they need to
Speaker 2: spend some time down the bottom, but I still think
Speaker 2: Eagles probably need it. But they do have a pretty
Speaker 2: good spine. Like they got Barass, they got Waterman, they
Speaker 2: got Oscar Allen, they got Tim Kelly who's still got
Speaker 2: years left, and then they got Harley Reid, so they
Speaker 2: got a pretty good spine set up as well. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think the Tigs are probably in
Speaker 2: a bit of world to hurt at the moment, and
Speaker 2: they'll probably like they'll lose some of their forward structure.
Speaker 2: So anyway, we'll wait and see.
Speaker 1: For new fresh faces to come through there, right.
Speaker 2: Wait and see. You want some excitement, we look, we
Speaker 2: talk about excitement because this blow is one of the
Speaker 2: most exciting blokes in the league. We talk about Horny Frank.
Speaker 2: Horn francis our boy. Now there's he's must have been
Speaker 2: spending a bit too much time with Zach Butters Fickers
Speaker 2: over the week. Last week we were talking about Zach
Speaker 2: Butter's going for the record. It's like he's trying to
Speaker 2: lose money, just punching blokes and scragging him around. You
Speaker 2: can get under his skin. Well, it turns out you
Speaker 2: can kind of get under Horny Frank's skin too, because
Speaker 2: he was rough and blokes up and just he's just
Speaker 2: rolling him out of the way. Now, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know what Kenny Hinckley is doing down there. If they
Speaker 2: got they got too much sugar.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a sugar cut down of the lowly.
Speaker 2: Will cut out the celery and peanut butter instead of snakes, giants,
Speaker 2: killer pythons, and we need less sugar down there. Gatorade,
Speaker 2: no sugar, powerade. We're on the powerades? Are can we
Speaker 2: say that I can say what I prefer. You can't
Speaker 2: say what you prefer, honestly, and I'm a big Gatorade guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know about power too sweet. Anyway, we we
Speaker 2: got to get on the prime can we when's the falgus?
Speaker 2: Many people to try to get a sponsorship. Players scull
Speaker 2: a bottle of coke before they head out there. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we just need some. We're just we're putting it on
Speaker 2: the radar. Horny Frank. We need to settle down, mate,
Speaker 2: You Zach Butters will put you in an anger management course.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a few other Charlie looks
Speaker 2: like he's if he starts to get as angry as
Speaker 2: the other two. Run one scary bloke. We move on
Speaker 2: to a good Is it a good news story?
Speaker 1: It is, we'll talk about why it might not be
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 2: It's quite remarkable. So for anyone that watched the Richmond game,
Speaker 2: Steely Green, which is an amazing name for.
Speaker 1: Starters still side bottom, but is.
Speaker 2: Could we get away with calling our kids steely steely
Speaker 2: Cock's steal steely so steely cock, no way, steely green
Speaker 2: out there pick three goals in his third game of footy,
Speaker 2: which I thought was amazing. I didn't know much background
Speaker 2: until I heard Luke Darcy talk about it on commentary,
Speaker 2: said that he was a former competitive sailor. Now that's
Speaker 2: a pretty unique pathway into the ave. But he was
Speaker 2: a former competitive sailor who also got struck by lightning
Speaker 2: out on the water, insane and survived. Clearly, he survived.
Speaker 2: You kicked three goals in his third game, but fell
Speaker 2: into the water. It was a whole thing, pretty wild, Like,
Speaker 2: that's that's the That's the craziest pathway into the AFL
Speaker 2: that I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: I just like, being struck by lightning just blows my mind, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you like? That is such like an electrical
Speaker 1: current going through your body?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've held an electric fence.
Speaker 1: Have you pissed on her electric ac.
Speaker 2: As a kid? You do the whole thing. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not great, but that feels like that could have killed me.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: And it reminded me of a story I've read recently,
Speaker 1: because lightning strikes are thing I actually had a friend
Speaker 1: that was on jetski he got struck by lightning this
Speaker 1: year and it was like very serious. Right, But there's
Speaker 1: one man who has the Guinness Book or sorry, Guinness
Speaker 1: World Record for being struck by lightning. Can you guess
Speaker 1: how many times he's been struck? No, what like seven times?
Speaker 1: Seven times in his life? His name is Roy Cleveland Sullivan,
Speaker 1: Big Sully. He's been struck seven times. Worked it Shinandoah
Speaker 1: National Park. You think after two or three, you go,
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for retirement. This man went to seven
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even the thing that killed him. Oh
Speaker 1: waits past? Why now? But like the light being strikes
Speaker 1: worth the thing that actually killed him, Like it's insane.
Speaker 1: He has a photo who's like whole ranger cap is
Speaker 1: just scarred with black on it, and he's like that,
Speaker 1: you gotta work tomorrow. I can't miss a day.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's time we retire the metal hat limum hat
Speaker 2: any stick. We wish you the best out.
Speaker 1: For roles in the third game. Congratulations, that's a heck
Speaker 1: of an accomplishment.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We wish you all the best in the future ahead.
Speaker 2: Maybe skip the games where it's raining, just just to
Speaker 2: be safe. Let's move on because there is one more
Speaker 2: thing that I want to bring up, because there was
Speaker 2: a very serious thing that happened over the course of
Speaker 2: the weekend, and it was Donald Trump's assassination attempt.
Speaker 1: Wild pretty crazy. I was insane, like like, are we
Speaker 1: living in a Netflix special of some sort? Like I
Speaker 1: don't feel like this is a real situation that we're
Speaker 1: living in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially especially because like when it happened, like
Speaker 2: all the news came out and it was like it
Speaker 2: was it just felt like it was another thing, Like
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like the world should have stopped because
Speaker 2: a president was almost assassinated. President. Yeah, well you're a
Speaker 2: president forever, but like that feels like a thing that
Speaker 2: should have stopped the world. But half the people were
Speaker 2: split into like, ah, here's just faking it.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is everyone was like conspiracy
Speaker 1: right away. Everyone was just and the fact that the
Speaker 1: first thing that people think of is that it's got
Speaker 1: to be a conspiracy, it's got to be a lie,
Speaker 1: no chance, right.
Speaker 2: And I think that's just America.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean if there's any person that just
Speaker 1: calls people a liar, you would probably say that person
Speaker 1: has been similar in their character as Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: So he got shot what twice in this in the
Speaker 2: skull and people are like, no, that's not him, that
Speaker 2: that was a an alien did it?
Speaker 1: It was the guy from the grass you know the
Speaker 1: book Depository.
Speaker 2: This is the thing that right an it was like
Speaker 2: a weirdo on a roof.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was. He was spotted very quickly,
Speaker 1: and you know it was you can't don't lie into
Speaker 1: these things, mate, don't these things.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty reacted to it. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I think there probably should have been more security there.
Speaker 1: But they found him and you know, executed the situation
Speaker 1: and a guest secret service does Look, I will say
Speaker 1: this style like, I know there's a lot of commentary
Speaker 1: and jokes about it, but like, you don't wish anyone
Speaker 1: to be shot in this life, right, Like I know
Speaker 1: everyone has a laugh of everything that's going on, how
Speaker 1: crazy the America is in the situation that's going on
Speaker 1: over there, But you know, I don't want to wish
Speaker 1: that upon anyone. But it is a wild time in
Speaker 1: our history to be reading these headlines and seeing what's
Speaker 1: going on over there and just the whole experience of
Speaker 1: it and now living in like in Australia and seeing
Speaker 1: it as like kind of a third person to the
Speaker 1: whole ideas of everything going on. It doesn't even seem real, No,
Speaker 1: it seems like just a fictional story that is being
Speaker 1: written up in front of us.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine Elbow standing out there doing a speech
Speaker 2: and someone has a shot at him.
Speaker 1: It's kind of very hard since guns are very hard
Speaker 1: to come by in this country wild. But I will
Speaker 1: say this though, I remember there was a Prime Minister
Speaker 1: once when I first came here, is Malcolm Turnbull. And
Speaker 1: I was going through the Arts gallery in Melbourne, right.
Speaker 1: So I was over there and just kind of checking
Speaker 1: out some of the different stuff and I saw, you know,
Speaker 1: this guy walk through and he had a camera guy
Speaker 1: behind him, and he had another person that was a
Speaker 1: security guard with him and a few other kind of
Speaker 1: people shone around. I didn't know who this was, you know,
Speaker 1: So I go over to the security person. I said,
Speaker 1: I'll just out of curiosity, like who is this, you know?
Speaker 1: And he looks at me and he's like, are you serious.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, because he's the Prime Minister of Australia.
Speaker 1: He had one security guard with him, walking around in
Speaker 1: a public art gallery. Yeah, that is absurd. I looked
Speaker 1: at him. I was like, sorry, this guy runs the
Speaker 1: country and he's just casually walking around like a Sunday
Speaker 1: afternoon with no one really protecting him. Like I could
Speaker 1: have walked up to him and sugar his aunt. No
Speaker 1: one would even looked at me.
Speaker 2: Twice they knew saying footballers need to be protected at
Speaker 2: the game. So you got the PM goes out there.
Speaker 2: They used to knock on John Howard's door and he
Speaker 2: used to come out in his track so you can
Speaker 2: go for a run around Canberra Lake just casually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like down to wake up all.
Speaker 2: He still does it. That's not even like the thing
Speaker 2: that used to happen. That's pretty well people he was
Speaker 2: trying to pick up anyway. Yeah, I would talk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's so much.
Speaker 1: There is so much we can cover with that. More
Speaker 1: will come out during the week. But it was something
Speaker 1: we have to mention because it was such a historical moment.
Speaker 1: The photo was incredible.
Speaker 2: When you talk about photo ops and opportunities and a
Speaker 2: guy that knows like how to market that was incredible.
Speaker 1: It was just might be time photo of the year.
Speaker 2: Let's get into the big winners because Hawthorne they caught
Speaker 2: up to the back of the pack. And we all
Speaker 2: know that the pack is only two games from second
Speaker 2: down to thirteen, which is pretty wild. Hawthorne sitting in
Speaker 2: thirteen only behind on percentage cicily, wasn't that havn't the
Speaker 2: biggest impact got swung forward kicked three goals late, was
Speaker 2: a massive influenced in the Yeah, another swing man. He
Speaker 2: was brought up last week, Nick Watson, who you know,
Speaker 2: give us your feedback break. Well, you wouldn't describe him
Speaker 2: as someone with ice in his veins. It's seven goals nineteen,
Speaker 2: but he did manage to kick a goal one one
Speaker 2: I think for the day and did the whole ice
Speaker 2: in the Vans celebration. Yeah. If it's like like ironic
Speaker 2: if he's doing it, you know, because it's funny because
Speaker 2: he's like he kicked one five or whatever the other week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's hilarious. I just don't know with these Hawks guys,
Speaker 2: but I love what the Hawks are doing. Yeah, they've
Speaker 2: got quite a bit at the moment. I did see him.
Speaker 2: They I think it's the second time or whatever. They
Speaker 2: maybe it's their thing. They're taking a big selfie, big
Speaker 2: group selfie after the game, like all the lads are
Speaker 2: in taking a selfie. Then I noticed after this game
Speaker 2: they were doing that, and then a lady swooped in
Speaker 2: and just snatched the phone out of their hands. So
Speaker 2: I think it looked like she worked for the Hawks.
Speaker 2: So I reckon they've been like, let's we're not doing
Speaker 2: that on the phone out on the grind or something.
Speaker 1: We're not doing that, Guinea girl pro Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But that was just another interesting factor in this one.
Speaker 2: Lloyd Mek, big plumber man.
Speaker 1: He's been killing it this year, Old Mek. He's been
Speaker 1: going really well a few he's had a few plumber games,
Speaker 1: a few fifty taps.
Speaker 2: I like, just the big traditional bulkies, stocky Rugby. He
Speaker 2: is a big boy, a big boy. They're always good.
Speaker 2: So that's a great game for Hawthorne. Hawthorne back into
Speaker 2: the pack. So the ladder gets deeper as all these
Speaker 2: teams failed to fire. Speaking of failure to fire.
Speaker 1: You've been on this Murchis back for the last three weeks.
Speaker 2: I loved it because I feel like I noticed it
Speaker 2: before anyone else. And then it was mentioned on the
Speaker 2: broadcast when he missed, like I think he missed one
Speaker 2: or two goals for the game or whatever it was,
Speaker 2: and he ended up slotting on and Huddo was all
Speaker 2: around it kicked Travis bo kicked his first goal for
Speaker 2: the year, one goal thirteen, So massive moment. We love
Speaker 2: Bokey was Sam, We're going to get around him last
Speaker 2: week if he got the job done. And boy did
Speaker 2: he get the job done. Great goal. There was a
Speaker 2: couple where I when I was sitting there watching it,
Speaker 2: I'm like, he's running into a goal and he missed
Speaker 2: and I was like, fuck, it's in his head, he knows,
Speaker 2: he knows. And then after he kicked his goal, big double.
Speaker 2: It's off the back now Trav, Now you'll go and kick. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it was Lewis Jedter that kicked. I think
Speaker 2: from debut it was like zero goals nineteen or something
Speaker 2: before he kicked his first goal in AFL for he
Speaker 2: didn't stop trying. He just kept going. Let's go into
Speaker 2: Sydney because they had an important duo joined the team again.
Speaker 2: We had Luke Parker was a late replacement for Sam
Speaker 2: Wick started as the sub came on in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: kicked two goals. I had thirteen disposals. Cal Mills Skipper
Speaker 2: came back after his little wrestle Frakka the Mad Monday
Speaker 2: celebrations heard his shoulder first game back, kicked the goal
Speaker 2: twelve touches. So two massive inns for Sydney who are
Speaker 2: already you know, flying. They had a couple of losses,
Speaker 2: a little blip, and then they had a big win
Speaker 2: over North. Everyone likes to come up against North when
Speaker 2: they need a little win. I just did want to
Speaker 2: ask you out of those two because I think Luke
Speaker 2: Parker mentioned it that it does play on your mind
Speaker 2: a bit. Can you get back into this team that's
Speaker 2: up and firing. There's been moments throughout your career that
Speaker 2: the similar stuff has happened. How much does it play
Speaker 2: on your mind? Because I know that it would. How
Speaker 2: much does it play on your mind?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think back to probably the most recent one
Speaker 1: was last year. Like last year, I dropped to the VFL,
Speaker 1: and around midway through the year, I'd say, and then, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does kind of play on your mind. But I
Speaker 1: think you have to have those open and honest conversations
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff and the coaches and see where
Speaker 1: you are out and what you need to work on.
Speaker 1: And I think that the pointier the season gets and
Speaker 1: the further to get along, the closer to the end,
Speaker 1: you kind of dig it a bit stressed around that
Speaker 1: of going okay, like, you know, it's it's a pretty
Speaker 1: solidified team. You almost have to like have someone injured
Speaker 1: or something to replace them, because they're not going to
Speaker 1: want to change the people in the you know, in
Speaker 1: the different roles and positions if they're winning games. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it does play on people's minds for sure. And I
Speaker 1: think you obviously want to be there winning with the
Speaker 1: team and part of the whole experience, right, And if
Speaker 1: you know there's someone in front of you that's doing
Speaker 1: you know, a better job, or you know, hasn't had
Speaker 1: a stuff up or hasn't got injured or anything like that,
Speaker 1: you're kind of going, okay, like, where's my opportune going
Speaker 1: to be whenever it comes to, hopefully the end of
Speaker 1: the year and being part of something special and finals.
Speaker 1: So I can totally understand where he's coming from, but
Speaker 1: it is good to see him back. He's obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: a big name up there for Sydney, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think they're better with him in the team and
Speaker 1: his leadership, so yeah, it's good to see him back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Sydney's looking the goods. They did play North
Speaker 1: Melbourne over the weekend, we'll say, but yeah, still I
Speaker 1: think they needed that. They had a few losses there.
Speaker 1: They kind of like need to get back on their horse,
Speaker 1: get their momentum going. They're still a fair way clear
Speaker 1: of you know, second place or they're up to open.
Speaker 1: You know, we're going to fish finish in the top four.
Speaker 1: That's pretty easier to say. So I think they're back
Speaker 1: on their winning ways, which is good for them.
Speaker 2: Scary for the rest of the competition that they can
Speaker 2: have so many big inns. Mcinnernie I think came out
Speaker 2: for Luke Parker and the third quarter, so hopefully all
Speaker 2: well is all's well there. We move into the Bulldogs
Speaker 2: game because they had a massive win over Carlton, but
Speaker 2: it was it brings up more, you know, selection dilemma
Speaker 2: and positional dilemma for the Bulldogs because hugle Hagen went
Speaker 2: on to absolutely start again when Norton was out. So
Speaker 2: each time Norton seems to be out of the team,
Speaker 2: ugle Hagen steps up and has a massive game, and
Speaker 2: it just it keeps driving home that is there too
Speaker 2: many big players in their forward line, too much tall timber, Like,
Speaker 2: what do you think could be the possible reasons why
Speaker 2: this is happening? Because Sam Darcy is also up there,
Speaker 2: Riley West and Cody Weightman are great foils off the
Speaker 2: tall guys. So yeah, I feel like Norton is versatile
Speaker 2: enough to be able to go back. Keep saying it.
Speaker 2: It seems to be very unlikely to ever happen, but
Speaker 2: it only seems to be positive when Hugile Haagen is
Speaker 2: the main man up there.
Speaker 1: I think he's just got more room to work and
Speaker 1: probably you know, it doesn't feel like he's getting into
Speaker 1: other people's way.
Speaker 2: Sam Darcy, I.
Speaker 1: Think he's going to be one of the best forwards
Speaker 1: in the league in the next two to three years.
Speaker 1: I can pretty much safely say that. I've talked to
Speaker 1: people in the league and they all have the same thing.
Speaker 2: They're like, man, he's.
Speaker 1: Just got these jukes and he puts these big, gangly
Speaker 1: long arms up and he can take a Clark say,
Speaker 1: I think they've got a big upside with their forward line.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to go Okay, like, realistically, what does
Speaker 1: it look like? Can we play with three tolls? Can
Speaker 1: we play with two? And then they moved while back obviously,
Speaker 1: so they're definitely shifting magnets magnets around trying to figure
Speaker 1: out where their best team is. But it was good
Speaker 1: to see Jamar go really well over the weekend. He's
Speaker 1: a he's an absolute legend. But on the give them
Speaker 1: a little shout out on the podcast, Yeah, yeah, last
Speaker 1: year but he was hilarious and yeah, no, it's good
Speaker 1: to see him going well. But I think it is
Speaker 1: a lot of one. You have to get experienced together
Speaker 1: and then if it clicks, then you continue with that.
Speaker 1: But if it doesn't, you got to keep kind of
Speaker 1: changing to figure out where the best you know, avenue
Speaker 1: is for your fore line. And at the moment you
Speaker 1: look at it and you go, okay, if we have
Speaker 1: not in Jamar, and how many goals are we getting
Speaker 1: out of them? Right?
Speaker 2: Like together?
Speaker 1: And then if you go, okay, we just have Jamar in,
Speaker 1: Like let's say together they kick six and then individually
Speaker 1: Jamar might kick five and it's like, okay, well a
Speaker 1: goal difference to have more. You know, they're faster and
Speaker 1: quicker players to kind of rush through the contest, like
Speaker 1: do we want to risk that or do we want
Speaker 1: to have more aerial down line? And it might be,
Speaker 1: you know, dependent on the team you play and you
Speaker 1: know the style they play at. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they hundreds that know exactly who their
Speaker 1: Ford line is. And it's going to change a little
Speaker 1: bit again whenever some players come back. But it is
Speaker 1: a shout out to Jamar just you know, keep trogging
Speaker 1: along doing the best you can, and he's killing it.
Speaker 2: So happy for him for those of us that think that,
Speaker 2: you know, the Fords just run around like endless jokes
Speaker 2: inside the Ford fifty. How much cohesion is needed? Is
Speaker 2: there a hierarchy? So is it like Checkers is like Mace,
Speaker 2: get out of my way. I'm coming through to take
Speaker 2: the mark? Is there?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: First? Second, third tolls like who has the hierarchy? Who
Speaker 2: has the right of way? Do you have to stay
Speaker 2: out of each other's way? Do you have to you're
Speaker 2: meant to block for me or like vice versa, like
Speaker 2: what's the protocol?
Speaker 1: Then yeah, there is for certain circumstances, right Like I'm
Speaker 1: like Jamie Elliott's probably not gonna you know, but throughout
Speaker 1: the difference between myself or Jamie Elliott blocking for one
Speaker 1: another for a lead, probably gonna block for Jamie Elliott,
Speaker 1: he's a little bit faster. I am a lot more skillful.
Speaker 1: If it's kicked at the top of the square on
Speaker 1: everyone's head, yeah, Jamie probably gonna block for me.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So there's like different scenarios in that sense. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: you play to your strength. So like if you have
Speaker 1: a long downline contest, you probably most likely want me there,
Speaker 1: and then Check be able to kind of rush off
Speaker 1: that because he's got the speed that I don't. So
Speaker 1: you play to each person's strengths and then hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: you can be able to have each one impact and
Speaker 1: then from one to another to the next be able
Speaker 1: to get into the forward line and be able to
Speaker 1: kick a goal. So everyone has different things they bring
Speaker 1: to the table. And I wouldn't say it's a hierarchy
Speaker 1: quote unquote, but I think it's more of a plenty
Speaker 1: of strengths and know, you know what people are good
Speaker 1: at and allow them to shine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it also depends if you've got Buddy Franklin there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just actually don't whatever. You you don't get
Speaker 1: past halfway, you just let him have the whole half
Speaker 1: of the field. You sort the rest out. Gonna leave
Speaker 1: you there on your arm.
Speaker 2: Buddy. Imagine if you imagine if you dropped in front
Speaker 2: of him and he's like, get out of my way.
Speaker 2: Next time, you'd be like, yeah, I'll stand in.
Speaker 1: The car park.
Speaker 2: Just gotta leave. Let's talk about the big losers. We'll
Speaker 2: skip through this because we don't like harping on the
Speaker 2: on the big losers. But Freo I've I was so
Speaker 2: ready for Freer to take this one by the scruff
Speaker 2: of the neck, and unfortunately they couldn't get the job
Speaker 2: done over Hawthorne. But the consequence of that is not
Speaker 2: having second spot on the ladder.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty yeah.
Speaker 2: Could have would have Shulder, but unfortunately didn't. They had
Speaker 2: a pretty dominant third quarter and only managed to kick
Speaker 2: four six. They did kick more goals, but could have
Speaker 2: had a lot more more, could have Shutters Carlton. Massive
Speaker 2: loss for them, not just in the scope of being
Speaker 2: able to solidify second on the ladder, but it was
Speaker 2: Patrick Cripps's two hundredth game, and you always like to
Speaker 2: get up for those milestones. They only went down by
Speaker 2: a couple of goals and Charlie managed to kick three
Speaker 2: to seven. Now it was it's you were you going
Speaker 2: those things and you're like shining light. What's the silver
Speaker 2: lining of that he's had? He's had, well, he's had
Speaker 2: ten shotshots, two starters, he's getting a lot of shots.
Speaker 2: Getting the pill. He's getting the pill. Just got to
Speaker 2: put it between the big sticks. And I think that
Speaker 2: was probably leading into this. Harry was the number one
Speaker 2: banana and Charlie had a couple of quiet weeks for
Speaker 2: someone that's up the top end of the Coleman so
Speaker 2: it's good to see him up and about. It's just
Speaker 2: get that accuracy of firing. Unfortunate one for them to drop.
Speaker 2: But then I think they got north this weekend so
Speaker 2: they course correct. And then this one that I wanted
Speaker 2: to pull out, which I don't know how many people
Speaker 2: are going to come after me for this one really?
Speaker 2: Of course, well by the looks of what I'm about
Speaker 2: to read out, not a lot of people are going
Speaker 2: to come after me. Because I thought Richmond had one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand members and under twenty thousand people
Speaker 2: rocked up to their game at the MCG, lowest in
Speaker 2: twenty years, two years. Yeah, and I was flicking through
Speaker 2: the calendar looking for what was on over the weekend.
Speaker 2: Not a lot, not a lot, pretty rainy weekend. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe the rain kept them away, bit cold, bit nippy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe stay hard.
Speaker 1: I will say this. I was on the road right
Speaker 1: at the same time the Richmond game was finishing up.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to.
Speaker 1: Put out exactly what vehicle I saw, but I saw
Speaker 1: a very heavy amount of Richmond stickers on the back
Speaker 1: of this yell car that happened to be leaving the
Speaker 1: MCG before the game had finished. Yellow.
Speaker 2: Maybe the yellow cars just a coincidence.
Speaker 1: It had an established whatever your rich for football car
Speaker 1: was established on the back. You could say they were
Speaker 1: a hardcore fan, but they might be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a fair weather fan. Also at the same time, there's.
Speaker 2: A lot of stickers on that like that's what you.
Speaker 1: See out the back of the day and they just
Speaker 1: can't be street legal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just thought one to bring up because
Speaker 2: the Tazzy game drew eleven thousand people, which almost pips
Speaker 2: the Richmond game at the G. So maybe Richmond needed
Speaker 2: a couple more games over at Marvel, just something that
Speaker 2: they might be able to fill up a bit. You
Speaker 2: see how they go on that.
Speaker 1: To get murdered by It's like the comments.
Speaker 2: I love it. I can't wait for Maybe maybe I will,
Speaker 2: maybe I won't. Maybe they all knocked off for the years.
Speaker 1: You've doubled down?
Speaker 2: What no, triple down again?
Speaker 1: Triple down?
Speaker 2: And if we were comment about Richmond, well, if we
Speaker 2: whack the AFL, if we trust the AFL's crowd numbers,
Speaker 2: it was probably actually about eight thousand, and they've given
Speaker 2: him nineteen thousand. Go on for another record this year.
Speaker 2: Oh anyway, let's jump in. I'm only venting because speaking
Speaker 2: of big losers, we're heading into the Collingwood game now
Speaker 2: and we will start positive. Jamie Elliott's return was one
Speaker 2: of the one for the Ages, a massive return. Everyone
Speaker 2: loves seeing him back out there after his vascular issues
Speaker 2: and came on almost kicked an early goal. But then
Speaker 2: I was grateful that he missed because what he did
Speaker 2: after that was almost better because he hit a smother,
Speaker 2: turned the ball over, wheeled around, kicked one on the
Speaker 2: run running inside fifty, got the standing O from the crowd.
Speaker 2: It was amazing, amazing to see Jamie Elliott back out
Speaker 2: there kicking goals on the MCG.
Speaker 1: He's obviously had a fair few weeks on the sideline unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but it was great to see him back out there,
Speaker 1: see him deep in the square, just be able to
Speaker 1: do his thing and be a pressure player, create the contest,
Speaker 1: get the goals, and it was a beautiful moment. I
Speaker 1: think whenever he did kick that goal, and only did
Speaker 1: they go up and cheer whenever he kicked it, went
Speaker 1: and celebrated of the team. But then you know, as
Speaker 1: he's going back to the goal square to set up
Speaker 1: for the center bounce, everyone did a standing o for
Speaker 1: him as he went back towards the cheer squad and
Speaker 1: you know, gave a little acknowledgment to the crowd. And
Speaker 1: I think as a player, you know, very depressing times
Speaker 1: and frustrating times. I think whenever you're injured and want
Speaker 1: to be out there, and for him to get back
Speaker 1: out there and be able to be able to shine
Speaker 1: on the biggest stage and get that acknowledgment from your
Speaker 1: fans and supporter base, it's it's a good feeling.
Speaker 2: It's a very good feeling.
Speaker 1: I was I was happy that people did it, and
Speaker 1: I was happy for Jamie to be able to experience
Speaker 1: that and play so well.
Speaker 2: It was pretty he was so clean. A couple of
Speaker 2: these pickups, just one touch pickups handble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked a bit dewy, as I say, a
Speaker 1: little Stuart you.
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild that he can come out after missing
Speaker 2: so much time and be one of the cleanest players
Speaker 2: out there. We'll touch on Jeremy Cameron because Jess is back.
Speaker 2: He does like to play against Collingwood. Yeah, he kicks
Speaker 2: him from out of bounds in the parking lot. But
Speaker 2: he had an awesome game on the weekend, and he
Speaker 2: did touch on the matchup with Q. Now, I thought
Speaker 2: it was an interesting matchup. Obviously know Jeremy Howe. He's
Speaker 2: been playing for kind of the whole team out last
Speaker 2: week too. Yeah, he was probably the one we probably
Speaker 2: stick on him. Yeah, so the whole team's kind of
Speaker 2: a bit of a shambles at the moment. But Q
Speaker 2: giving up fifteen centimeters on him not the ideal opponent,
Speaker 2: or he did pretty well, like in all honesty to
Speaker 2: keep him to what he does. Because saying that Jeremy
Speaker 2: how does play on him and he still likes to
Speaker 2: kick bags of girls.
Speaker 1: Against I mean, he's Jeremy Cameron. If you keep him
Speaker 1: to one or two goals, I think it's a successful night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's not many other people in the league that you
Speaker 1: can sit there and say that, right, Like, there's there's
Speaker 1: very few. I think about Charlie Cameron, Jesse Cameron, like
Speaker 1: these players. You know, if you can keep him to
Speaker 1: a goal or two in a game, and that's a
Speaker 1: big win for the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think looking at it as well, not
Speaker 2: like he took a lot people talking about the height
Speaker 2: difference that he gave up. A lot of his were
Speaker 2: like pick up ground balls, snapped from like a stoppage
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and it's like, well, like who
Speaker 2: could play on him to stop that?
Speaker 1: Anyway, He's a free he's a good player. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was interesting, Like it's always frustrating seeing
Speaker 1: him go up against us and playworks. It's something I
Speaker 1: think you almost look at it and go, Okay, he's
Speaker 1: had a bit of a history against us. You know,
Speaker 1: hopefully we can shut him down this week. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're sorting stuff out and I think we've had a
Speaker 1: few different names go through and some people in and out,
Speaker 1: and it's not allowed for as much consistency as usual.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to sort through that and try to
Speaker 1: figure out kind of what our best twenty two or
Speaker 1: twenty three is.
Speaker 2: There was another interesting moment from the game where Schultz
Speaker 2: and Stewart seem to clash heads in an aerial contest.
Speaker 2: Geelong had already made their sub, so they brought on
Speaker 2: Oli Henry. He came on at the time. Schultz came
Speaker 2: straight off, realized that he was probably going to have
Speaker 2: to go into the proto, which is the ten minutes
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you guys have Reef as your sub,
Speaker 2: so like, yes, smart at that stage in the game,
Speaker 2: just to make the immediate sub. But Stewart came off,
Speaker 2: had blood from the eye, obvious head contacts, stayed down
Speaker 2: probably longer than Schultz on the field, and was taken
Speaker 2: from the field because of that incident. They kind of
Speaker 2: just patched him up and sent him back out there,
Speaker 2: And I was like, how is there not I understand
Speaker 2: that you've used your sub, you may as well patch
Speaker 2: him up and just see what the deal is. But
Speaker 2: I still thought he would have had to have gone
Speaker 2: through the ten minute protocol, but he just got sent
Speaker 2: straight back out there. So I still think outside of
Speaker 2: that specific incident, we've seen it happen multiple times, and
Speaker 2: it happened in another Geelong game for Jeremy Cameron, very
Speaker 2: very similar.
Speaker 1: So he actually went into concusion protocol after the game
Speaker 1: and he missed two weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so very similar when the game's on the line.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything un toward happened from a Geelong standpoint.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying broad spectrum stuff. We've talked about it before.
Speaker 2: I feel like there should be a third party AFL
Speaker 2: person that sees any head contact like in the NRL
Speaker 2: and says, look, stop play. That player needs to come
Speaker 2: off the field, because we've seen throughout the course of
Speaker 2: this year multiple times where a player will hit their
Speaker 2: head like Jeremy Cameron and just send the doctor away.
Speaker 2: The doctor can only do so much, so you want
Speaker 2: that taken out of the hands. There's the next stoppage.
Speaker 2: We all know now that the umpires have in ear pieces,
Speaker 2: they should be communicated with stop the game at the
Speaker 2: next stoppage. Jeremy Cameron needs to go off. He hit
Speaker 2: his head on the ground. He needs to be assessed
Speaker 2: and take it out of their hands because I don't
Speaker 2: not that I don't trust any doctors or any teams
Speaker 2: or anything like that. I just think that the player
Speaker 2: is going to want to stay out there, and it's
Speaker 2: very hard to put that on a doctor to say, Nah,
Speaker 2: why didn't you do more? Why didn't you drag him
Speaker 2: from the ground. Why did It's like, well, one Jeremy
Speaker 2: Camerons one hundred and ten kilos and he's inner stoppage.
Speaker 2: How am I going to drag him from the ground.
Speaker 2: Like you're putting too much on doctors that are just
Speaker 2: out there trying to do the right thing. I think
Speaker 2: take it out of everyone's hands, put it in the
Speaker 2: hands of the AFL, and say give it to a
Speaker 2: third party and they get to make them didience.
Speaker 1: So like we obviously have reviews for goals and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, I feel like there should be a review
Speaker 1: system where it goes to a bunker somewhere and then
Speaker 1: they can make the decision whether or not they need
Speaker 1: to come off the ground. It's done by an independent
Speaker 1: review panel. It's not done by people that are employed
Speaker 1: by the club. Not to say that that was the case,
Speaker 1: that you know it was biased from that standpoint, but
Speaker 1: I think for everyone and they're you know, just sense
Speaker 1: of mind with this whole kind of thing, like it's
Speaker 1: best to have an independent kind of person be able
Speaker 1: to make that judgment, and then off teams have to
Speaker 1: go through that kind of experience and it's not you know,
Speaker 1: targeted or biased towards one or the other. It's as
Speaker 1: someone that's totally independent from the actual the teams itself.
Speaker 1: So we've said that before. I think that's how it
Speaker 1: should be. It probably will be like that in the future.
Speaker 1: I think at some point maybe we able to keep
Speaker 1: saying this for the AFL to understand. I'm not too sure,
Speaker 1: but I think that's the best way to adjudicate this stuff,
Speaker 1: which is obviously such a hot topic and so important
Speaker 1: right now. And if were we talk about concussions and
Speaker 1: everything else, like it's it's just a necessity that's going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, put under a microscope week after
Speaker 1: week after week, year after year after year. And if
Speaker 1: we can find a way to make it not inc incentivised,
Speaker 1: but like not biased towards either one, then I think
Speaker 1: that's the best outcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even if that doesn't make sense for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: I think from a business standpoint, it is like if
Speaker 2: we get twenty years down the line and everyone wants
Speaker 2: to sue, who are you suing? Are you seeing the doctor,
Speaker 2: you're seeing the club, you're seeing the AFL you like,
Speaker 2: From a business standpoint, it makes so much more sense
Speaker 2: to put a framework around it, and everyone agrees that
Speaker 2: this is the best way forward. And we'll still make
Speaker 2: mistakes where we don't see wrangle or we don't see something,
Speaker 2: but we all have to work together to make it work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because we don't want to see you know, this continue
Speaker 2: on and players get hurt and then we have to
Speaker 2: wait to see who gets in trouble for it or like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it just makes it way more messy. It's
Speaker 2: just a way better system. Moving on into the game,
Speaker 2: we have DC another Plumber Massive Game. So he kicked
Speaker 2: two goals, one goal, fifty eight hitouts. Yeah. Massive Game
Speaker 2: was the only Collingwood player that got in the coaches votes.
Speaker 2: Really he got one so he only got one hitouts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so grim times for the coaches.
Speaker 1: I really do hate Rockman don't never get any credit, but.
Speaker 2: It's going to be very interesting. He comes up against me,
Speaker 2: so it's Plumber v. Plumber. It's like Mario v. Luigi
Speaker 2: this week, so yeah, that's going to be a massive one.
Speaker 2: DC been in hot form. He could use a little
Speaker 2: help there. So we will get into some of these
Speaker 2: returns because we saw Dan McStay return such a good
Speaker 2: story kick the first goal in the VFL return, everyone
Speaker 2: got around him. Amazing story. Glad to see him back
Speaker 2: out there again. We only just spoke about it last week,
Speaker 2: so we won't rehash it, but it'd be great to
Speaker 2: see him out there in the AFL. Hopefully that happens
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. But Mason Cox, everyone's talking about
Speaker 2: Cox on the lips this week, on the tip of
Speaker 2: the tongue. Everyone has Cox on the tip of their tongue.
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to know when you're going to be back.
Speaker 2: Did I say something?
Speaker 1: I want that to because that's going.
Speaker 2: To be the start of the clip. Everyone has Cocks
Speaker 2: on the tip of their tongue because they want to
Speaker 2: know when the big man is returning from injury and
Speaker 2: where you're going to return from injury. So the word
Speaker 2: on the grapevine is that you might be good to
Speaker 2: play this week and where are you going to play?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they I guess from the horses, Mat, I
Speaker 1: guess you could say rehab's gone really well. I've got
Speaker 1: to the point now I'm getting back into regular training
Speaker 1: and as long as this week goes well, I'm hoping
Speaker 1: and you know, in a good mindset that you know,
Speaker 1: I can be up for selection at whatever level next
Speaker 1: this weekend. So so I have to get through a
Speaker 1: few training sessions and make sure that happens, because I've
Speaker 1: not done a full training session yet. But if I
Speaker 1: can do that and feel comfortable with it, then yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a possibility I can play over the weekend. And
Speaker 1: it's where that's always up to the coaches, right, That's
Speaker 1: never that is never my decision. There's always up to
Speaker 1: the coaches and the high performance staff of kind of
Speaker 1: what they want to do if they want to you know,
Speaker 1: easy back in or whatever it may be. And you know,
Speaker 1: we saw Dan obviously coming back from an a CL
Speaker 1: played a VFL game first before he goes into the IFL,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting see
Speaker 1: kind of how that falls in its place. But I'm
Speaker 1: excited from my standpoint to be back into normal training,
Speaker 1: back into being able to to do everything with the
Speaker 1: team and be able to not have restrictions when it
Speaker 1: comes to going out there. So that's a really positive sign.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're pretty happy moving forward.
Speaker 2: I love it. Fly Jam Cocks right back in there. Well,
Speaker 2: I reckon, I reckon, you're not getting what did I say?
Speaker 2: I don't know what. Anyway, You're not getting any slower,
Speaker 2: you're not getting any quicker, So I don't see the
Speaker 2: point putting you in the VFL. Big Dan, Big Cocks
Speaker 2: straight back in the box. We chuck them in and
Speaker 2: we're good to go. And then you know, it's good
Speaker 2: to have a couple of players running out of time.
Speaker 2: There's not that many games left, so let's get it
Speaker 2: going and get the wins on the board. So that'll
Speaker 2: be awesome to see. Let's jump straight into the preview
Speaker 2: because we're running out of time because we got second.
Speaker 2: We'll reiterate this second to thirteenth two games in it.
Speaker 1: This is insane to think. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: has ever happened where it's been this close whenever it
Speaker 1: comes to the top eight and trying to get into it.
Speaker 1: But a two game difference from essentially what's Carlton at
Speaker 1: two all the way down to Hawthorn at thirteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's insane to think we have what six or seven
Speaker 1: games left in the season. Yeah, so really anything is
Speaker 1: possible for that top eight spot and that the run
Speaker 1: home for a lot of teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every win, every loss makes massive, It has massive
Speaker 2: implications on the ladder. I will reiterate that this situation
Speaker 2: isn't because any team is doing well outside of Sydney.
Speaker 2: It's all teams are sucking just at the right level.
Speaker 2: They're falling down when they just need to. Look at Freeo,
Speaker 2: you look at Carlton, you look at every team that
Speaker 2: just needs to get the obvious win. They haven't been
Speaker 2: able to do it pretty much all year. So then
Speaker 2: all these teams are even. So we move into another
Speaker 2: weekend and we just assume the worst. Because Adelaide and
Speaker 2: you would just say Essendon is a higher team on
Speaker 2: the ladder, they need to win this game. They should
Speaker 2: get it done. But if the ladder has anything to
Speaker 2: go by, they will probably get flogged. But I'm tipping
Speaker 2: Essenon in this one. Surely they get it done.
Speaker 1: Cg or Marvel the home game for Accident versus Adelaide,
Speaker 1: who you know, obviously plays outside of that top thirteen
Speaker 1: you know, of being able to try to get to
Speaker 1: that race for finals. So you have to go accident
Speaker 1: at home front of their home crowd. That's uh, that's
Speaker 1: going to be my lock for them. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be my lock, boy, So I was very tempted to
Speaker 1: do it, but I'm going to say that's a good
Speaker 1: chance for usident.
Speaker 2: That's nice.
Speaker 1: That's also means I'm timming accident into trying to get out.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Now this one there's never been a
Speaker 2: bigger game in the history of the AFL because it
Speaker 2: is GWS woo versus Gold Coast Sons booo. Because I don't.
Speaker 1: Really care about this game. All I need to know
Speaker 1: where's it being played.
Speaker 2: Because it's a GWS home gown Gold Coast away game,
Speaker 2: so we can lock that in. I'm putting that my
Speaker 2: cock luck huge because I Dimmer said boys, we need
Speaker 2: to fucking grow up or whatever he said, and they
Speaker 2: just scraped across the line at home against Port. So
Speaker 2: the GWS have come good. They're good again. So GWS,
Speaker 2: that's my cock cloff for the week. They're gonna get
Speaker 2: it done. Do you reckon? In all honesty, you give
Speaker 2: them any chance to win an away game this year.
Speaker 1: Plet the fifth that works in Australia. I played the
Speaker 1: fifth brother.
Speaker 2: It's no great. They've already lost the North, so they're
Speaker 2: already screwed Saint Kilda versus West Coast, so fucking anyway.
Speaker 1: So we got a whole four versus going to this
Speaker 1: one sant kill the West Coast ross line hopefully doesn't
Speaker 1: break another phone this week. Let's get him a head sight.
Speaker 1: That's what we should be doing.
Speaker 2: Why do we what's the predicted scoreline? Are we're going
Speaker 2: to see a thirty to twelve or are we gonna.
Speaker 1: This is the thing we talked about. It's like North
Speaker 1: West Coast Tigers. I think I won't say West Coast
Speaker 1: has twelve points together on eight. So then if they don't,
Speaker 1: if they do drop every single game, they're still not
Speaker 1: getting the number one draft pick if everyone else loses.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of this whole think of like, okay,
Speaker 1: do we just kind of you know, push for wins
Speaker 1: here and just try to be Saint Kilda.
Speaker 2: Well West Coast. Their forward line is so good with
Speaker 2: watermen and Oscar Allen. They they can't help but kick goals.
Speaker 2: Those two so it's like it's so hard to get
Speaker 2: them to stop. That's going to be a problem if
Speaker 2: Saint Kilda plays one of their stinky games. So let's
Speaker 2: Saints get to winn Saints to win nas stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm going West Coast.
Speaker 2: It doesn't fiss me off because I have zero faith
Speaker 2: in Saint Kilda. We'll skip past Hawthorne Collin. When we
Speaker 2: talked about that last Geelong versus Western Bulldogs, boy, that's
Speaker 2: a cracker. That's a cracker. Who you've got that one?
Speaker 1: I've got. I'm going to go Western Bulldogs on this one.
Speaker 1: I like to being a plumber on the day. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: although Stanley did play in the VFL last week, so
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might a little call up, you
Speaker 1: never know, after DC had such a big game. But
Speaker 1: I've got Western Bulldogs. I know Geelong home games, it's
Speaker 1: going to be very hard over there, but i've got
Speaker 1: the Western Bulldogs just coming through.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's interesting because Geelong had the hot start
Speaker 2: then fell off a cliff. Now it looks like they're back,
Speaker 2: and because every team around them has performed so poorly,
Speaker 2: they could slot into the top four like nothing happened.
Speaker 2: In the mid season. Let's just forget the middle of
Speaker 2: the season ever existed. Well, Western Bulldogs can pretty much
Speaker 2: do the same thing. They can jump straight back up
Speaker 2: in there, because every team in the middle of the
Speaker 2: ladder has a chance to finish in the top four,
Speaker 2: which is crazy. Port versus Richmond Port all day this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay for you looked like, wait, hold on, he's
Speaker 1: surely not putting us as the cock park. Now you
Speaker 1: got Port por to how Richmond Like, sorry, guys, rough Dross.
Speaker 2: Starts to get to this point in the season where
Speaker 2: Richmond's got to be looking for the end like you would.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've already booked their off season plans. Say, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible for them.
Speaker 2: No. No, Brisbane versus Sydney, this is a great game
Speaker 2: Brisbane at the Gabba. We like to see it. I
Speaker 2: Brisbane are going into this one favorite and I think
Speaker 2: that's well warranted. Given Sydney had their little stumbles. Brisbane
Speaker 2: have come good. It looks like they're going to be
Speaker 2: missing Charlie Cameron. We record this before the tribunal, assuming
Speaker 2: that he takes it to the tribune.
Speaker 1: He's going to get out of four games three gamers three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I can't imagine be playing this weekend.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it'll be interesting from that side of things.
Speaker 2: But I don't known. I feel like Brisbane at home
Speaker 2: they're very dangerous prospect and they should get the job done.
Speaker 2: Lucky Neil is on fire. He got thirty two goals
Speaker 2: every week. I watched some vision over the weekend where
Speaker 2: they're like they literally hold him the whole way through
Speaker 2: a stop it and he still gets thirty six touches.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's one of those blokes that can break
Speaker 2: a tag, knows how to kick a goal. As a midfielder.
Speaker 2: He'll get the job done against Sydney's unbelievable midfield. But
Speaker 2: that'll be a great game to watch. Free Oh Melbourne,
Speaker 2: hold on, let me just throw this out though.
Speaker 1: Oh I've got a little bit of a statement about this,
Speaker 1: Brisbane said game. I'm gonna put it as my cock
Speaker 1: clock of the week. Really, Brisbane at home. Harrow would
Speaker 1: be very happy with this. The man behind the scenes
Speaker 1: would be very happy. I know Sidney's going well. Sydney
Speaker 1: though North Melbourne last week two weeks before two losses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a chance.
Speaker 1: I do love Sydney. I love Brodie Grunde, I love
Speaker 1: the Sydney Swans, but I think Brisbane at home. I've
Speaker 1: got them winning this game.
Speaker 2: See, I look at it from a negative slant. If
Speaker 2: I was like working in the newspaper, I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: Mason Cox declare Sydney cooked the lost to in a row.
Speaker 2: They got the win against North Mate calm down, game
Speaker 2: over free oh versus Melbourne. Freo gets this one done.
Speaker 2: Freo are a good team. Had a little like Stumble
Speaker 2: last week, but that wasn't like that wasn't choking field.
Speaker 2: That wasn't choking because Hawthorne played very good footy of Tazzy.
Speaker 2: So I give them this game. Melbourne have turned things
Speaker 2: around form wise though, Yes, maybe just not the win.
Speaker 1: We thought they'd struggle without Max Conan then went over
Speaker 1: the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty wild. Interesting, Maybe we don't need rucks. I
Speaker 2: would keep that on the down loan. You're the one
Speaker 2: promoting and keep it on the down load because if
Speaker 2: Max Gorne can be kicked out of the team and
Speaker 2: they get the dubing, oh.
Speaker 1: No, I've got to go for on this one. I
Speaker 1: think Freemantle. Yeah, they're too good of a team to
Speaker 1: be losing at home Melbourne, very tough for them. They're
Speaker 1: going to be in that group that's going to be
Speaker 1: really on the edge of the eight trying to get
Speaker 1: in and we'll see kind of how the rest of
Speaker 1: your hands out.
Speaker 2: And then Carlton, well, they're going to massacre North Melbourne.
Speaker 2: They just got to get the win back that they
Speaker 2: stuffed up on the last weekend. You know, when you
Speaker 2: you barrack for a team the week before, you want,
Speaker 2: you know, the team that diversing to be lulled into
Speaker 2: it like a false sense of security like you want
Speaker 2: like but no, like Carlton's coming off like a loss.
Speaker 2: Patrick Cripps is two hundred, Charlie had three seven. They
Speaker 2: would be so fired up to absolutely dominate this weekend. Okay,
Speaker 2: if you think they're going to win by how much
Speaker 2: like I'd like to think. North aren't the team that
Speaker 2: still gets beaten by seventy points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll say sixty, you'll say sixty, yeah stuff,
Speaker 1: I'll go seventy.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Good luck North, But that's one more game for
Speaker 2: the round. Almost skipped over the Hawthorne Collingwood game. I
Speaker 2: feel like Hawthorne are the little Bogie team. They like
Speaker 2: coming up against you guys. They got the attitude. They
Speaker 2: like to take it up to Nick Dekos, they like
Speaker 2: to tag him. They got guinea running around out.
Speaker 1: We played on the gather round. Obviously it is a
Speaker 1: very tight game and we're fortunate enough to get over
Speaker 1: the line on that one. But it was very very
Speaker 1: close and last second type staff. But yeah, we talked
Speaker 1: about this. You know, Hawthorns one of those teams I
Speaker 1: think people probably look past over the last two or
Speaker 1: three years, but now they're they're right in that mix,
Speaker 1: like they're you know, the same points as us on
Speaker 1: the ladder. There's just a bit of a score differ, sure,
Speaker 1: is the only thing that really separates us. So it's
Speaker 1: going to be a very good game, I think over
Speaker 1: there over there at the MCG you know from we
Speaker 1: see the big, big away game. No, it's going to
Speaker 1: be a great game. I think it's a credit to
Speaker 1: what they've been able to do over at Hawthorne and
Speaker 1: their coach has you know, really been able to turn
Speaker 1: that program around where there's a lot of question marks
Speaker 1: I think whenever he first took over, and they've got
Speaker 1: this this you know confidence about them at the moment
Speaker 1: going about it, and it looks like they're really enjoying
Speaker 1: their football. So it's a it's a crowd to him
Speaker 1: when he's been able to create over there.
Speaker 2: I enjoy watching them play when I have a spare
Speaker 2: four forty on a Sunday free mate.
Speaker 1: It's a Saturday afternoon and where we play calm down.
Speaker 2: I just enjoy watching the Hawthorne team go about it. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I'm very off them this weekend as Collingwood will get
Speaker 2: the W in this game. But it'll be great to
Speaker 2: see because yeah, like you said, it's only a percentage
Speaker 2: that separates these two teams and they've come good. They've
Speaker 2: come a long way since gather around. So we'll see
Speaker 2: how this one pans out and all the best and
Speaker 2: hopefully you're running around out there. We'll wait and see.
Speaker 2: Oh we'll keep an eye on cocks this weekend. Got
Speaker 2: a lot of sexual windows. That's not I've got the
Speaker 2: one that's spelt like the penises do have the tough
Speaker 2: fallus last name. I have the good one. Mine's the
Speaker 2: good one, Yours is the bad one.
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