1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: We know that surveillance is being polstered to manage an 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: aggressive pest worm which has been found at more sites 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: across the Northern Territory. Guava root not nematod, which can 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: destroy fruit and vegetable crops, was first detected in Darwen 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: last month, and Chief Health Plant Officer Doctor Anne Walters 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: joins me on the line right now to provide a 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: bit of an update on the pest. Good morning to you. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Hello, honk going, yeah, really well. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. And now 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: how many sites has the pest been detected at now 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: and whereabouts are they? 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Yes, was now detected at seven Conferm Science. When I 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: first spoke to you about this last month, we talked 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: about the facts that it was that middle Point Malach 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: and Palmestan and Rapid Creek, but we've now also founded Atenora, 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: Leana and on Croker Island. 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Right now, can you just remind us about the nematod 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: and its impacts. 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's a microscopic pest, so you can't see it. 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: It's a round worm and it lives in the soil 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: and the impact on the plant is that it affects 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: the roots of the plants, and the plant's response is 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: to create these knots on their roots, which is hence 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: the name guava root, not nematodes. And it's when the 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: plant starts to fail or die that people start to 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: remove their plants and see these gauls or not on 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: the roots of the plant. And that's when you know 28 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: that this is likely to be the pest that you've got. 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: And what does it you know, what does it do 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: to the plant? It sounds as though it does have 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: quite a bad impact. What does it do and what 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: does it mean for territorians at this point, Yes, it burrows. 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: Into the plant and then the plant responds, but obviously 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: in responding it puts a lot of energy into you know, 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: trying to find what this invasive thing is it and 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: it often more than starts to fail, it's not as 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: healthy in some cases that will die. So it really 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: is a significant test. Like I said, you can't you 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: don't know it's there unless you start to see the 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: plants that it likes to feed on affected, and that 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: things like cucumbers and tomatoes and a whole range of 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: other things. And so what we're I guess suggesting is 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: that people are really careful, and they're moving plants and 44 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: soil around in particular because you can easily move this 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: pest around, and we're suggesting that if you're using machinery 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: or equipment or even with your boots, just making sure 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: that you clean those between moving from site to science. 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Now I understand that obviously surveillance is being ramped up. 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: What exactly does that involve. 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're looking at doing surveillance obviously, but we're 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: also really keen for people to let us know it's 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: so suspicious that they might have it, or they'd like 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: to get us to come and have a look at 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: some plants that they're worried about or whatever. And we're 55 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: getting people just to call us in on one eight 56 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: hundred zero eight four eight eighty one. And like I said, 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: so we're taking samples, but we're also going to be 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: doing our own surveillance, particularly commercial properties, just to make 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: sure that the growers know what to look for and 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: what to report, but also that their biosecurity practices are 61 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: really well in place and so that they can reduce 62 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: the risk that this pest will come onto their property. 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: And at this point, have any of those commercial growers 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: like are they impacted at this point in time. 65 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: No, well, we've got one commercial grower that's impacted, and 66 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: that was actually how we first detected the pest. So 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: obviously growers out all the time, they're looking at their crops, 68 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: and this particular grow was concerned about his cucumbers and 69 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: he contacted us and we went down and that's how 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: we first had the suspicion that we've got this particular 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: and in the toad in the territory. Yeah. 72 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: Right, And so how is a grower like that being 73 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: supported and how those other growers being supported to sort 74 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: of I know you said you'll be some of your 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: team are going to be heading out and educating them 76 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: and chatting with them about it. Is that how they 77 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: are going to be supported? 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And one of the other things that we're really 79 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: interested in doing is getting a project up to see 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: if we can better understand whether there's ways that we 81 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: can manage this pest most effectively. So we will be 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: working in the industry on that as well. And this 83 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: particular grower, the first founder, is really keen on being 84 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: involved in that type of research so that not only 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: is he able to protect his own fun but also 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: that of others. 87 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what should those grow, Like, what are they 88 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: on the lookout for, and what's your message to them? 89 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the thing that we're really suggesting is 90 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: just be really vigilant with the things that you bring 91 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: onto your property. So it might be things like, you know, 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: you're bringing new plants on, perhaps quarantine them for a 93 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: while and make sure that they're not infected with something, 94 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: that the plants are healthy when you actually introduce them 95 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: into your system, because as soon as you introduce the soil, 96 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: it's really difficult obviously, So if you've got contaminated soil, 97 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: then you're introducing it into your system and that means 98 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: that you're more likely to spread this pest. So it's 99 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: suggesting that anything that has soil attached to it just 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: to be really careful of when you're bringing it onto 101 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: your property. Like I said, if you can wash things 102 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: and clean them, that's the best approach. 103 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: And is the Northern Territory working with other jurisdictions as 104 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: well to try and manage these Yeah. 105 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: Well, at the moment they're othern Territory is the only 106 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: one that's got it. 107 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 108 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: One of the things that we have suggested to other 109 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: jurisdictions is that they do since surveillance themselves just to 110 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: check out whether they might have it. But the other 111 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: thing that we are suggesting is that they go back 112 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: through their historical specimens and just make sure that they 113 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: didn't misdive those, which is really easy to do because 114 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: this pest is so closely related to other species, so 115 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: there is a possibility of misdiagnosis. So we are working 116 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: with other jurisdictions to help them to do the surveillments, 117 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: but also to make sure that they've got the diagnose 118 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: gnostics right in case they do have this pest themselves. 119 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess that could be the concern for 120 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: them is that they actually do and don't realize at 121 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: this point. 122 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because given how widespread is in the 123 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: Northern territory, you know, we're talking from Middle Point through 124 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: to Croak Island, it is really widespread. It suggests that 125 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: it's been here for some time, and that also suggests 126 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: that there has been a possibility that it could have 127 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: been moved to other places inadvertently. 128 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: And also, I guess the question that people are going 129 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: to be wondering right now as well an is how 130 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: do we sort of end up with it in the territory. 131 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really hard one and I don't know 132 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: if we'll ever know the answer to that. It's a 133 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: really big problem in plant bio securities often that we 134 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: can't work out where things have come from. So at 135 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: this stage we haven't got anything that we can say 136 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: it was from this situation. It can be someone coming, 137 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: you know, with something that they didn't even realize that 138 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: they might have been carrying the pest from overseas. But 139 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: also if it is in another location domestically, it's possible 140 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: that is coming through there, but at this stage there's 141 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: nothing to suggest it is present in those places, and 142 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: like I said, we're just supporting those other jurisdictions to 143 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: help them to do that surveillance. 144 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: Well, Chief Health Plant Officer, Doctor Anne Walters, we always 145 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thanks so much for coming on the 146 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: show this morning. 147 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure. Thank you, Thank you,