1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Nowell and Woody Podcast. Minni Jack, you obviously love traveling 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: for the film Kung Fu Panda because I saw that 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: you went to the premiere in China, even though the 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: film in China has been dubbed. Yeah, so technically you're 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: not in the movie. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: That's true. It's true in China. I Yeah, it's a 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: different actor's voice and you don't see my face. So 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: why was I in China? And the answer is because 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: it's imbued with my essence. Even if you take it 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: out to another planet, it's still got my sauce on 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: it because a little secret when we are recording my voice, 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. They also film me, so any 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: little twitch I do might make it into the film. 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Really, No, you're right, I shouldn't have been there. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: Why am I flying to China to promote the movie? 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: They say it helps, Okay, I just what they tell me. 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: Way, I do what they tell me. It sounds like 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: it's your idea that It sounds like it sounds like 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: you wanted to go to China for a little holiday. 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: So you were like, I'm gonna go, guys. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: I enjoyed the cuisine. I'm not gonna lie. Weirdly, they 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: make really good Chinese food there some of the best. 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Would have thought. 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: All the way through the film, there's this tension for 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: between like, you know, is he going to fight or 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: is he going to use his you know, wisdom or 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: you know, do you hold off or do you fight? 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: And it kind of made me think, like, have you 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: ever been in a fight before? 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: Like, have you ever been? Have you ever? Like actually laughed, 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: He's trying to laugh. 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: There was a knee reaction, and he was making. 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: A ridiculous question because obviously I've never been in a scrape. 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: Have you ever? Yes? I have you? 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: Really? 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Who did you scrape? Agains? 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm about to get in a scrap? No, 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: you got to get back in the way back time. Yeah, 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: it was in the eighties. Really, what was it? 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: What was it over? 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: What was you know? The kid was a bullet, Let's 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: just say it like it was. He wanted to fight. 44 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: I didn't want to fight. I think maybe he had 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: something else going on at home. He was mad at 46 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: me for something. I didn't have anything to do with it, 47 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: and it was self defense. But then I did maybe, 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: like I give him some noogies on the head. They 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: call him. 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Sorry, did you fight a child? Or were you a child? 51 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: Also? Children? 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: Of course? Sorry, I was just picturing grown Jack Flack. 53 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: No, I think I was a teen. I think I 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: was twelve. 55 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: I didn't. 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: It didn't suit me. 57 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: I'm a lover. It's not my thing. 58 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like violence. I'm a peaceman. I'm a 59 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: man of peace. 60 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: In the piece, you're also a man of play, Jack, 61 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: I feel like whenever I see you in interviews, whenever 62 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: I see your movies, I think a lot of adults 63 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: struggle to play. They lose that ability. It's something that 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: children do. Is there a secret to maintaining the ability 65 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: to play? 66 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: That's just all I know that my My whole world 67 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: is based around it. And if I didn't get to 68 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: be an actor or performer on stage, putting on shows, 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: uh and playing for a living, I don't know what 70 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: I'd do. This really saved my life. I love I 71 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: love the arts, and I support the arts for kids too, 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: because the. 73 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: Ones that you're beating up, I can't believe you bring 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: it back then. 75 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: The one time I resorted to violence, dreams. 76 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Jack black Fodd's children, please pull that quote. 77 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: One time I viscerated a kid, horrible, horrible Back to 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: h Jack. 79 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: At the end of the movie, there's this wonderful message 80 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: with the chameleon and I'm a metaphor really for the 81 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: whole movie, which is the idea that you know, you 82 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: can't really change who you are on the outside if 83 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: you want to get somewhere, which is kind of what 84 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: the chameleons doing the whole time. It's like constantly changing 85 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: to achieve her goal, whereas Poe is looking to change 86 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 3: on the inside, which is like a really lovely contrast 87 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: all the way through. Is that a message that you 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: propagate because when I think about you, I feel like 89 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: I feel like you're kind of very true to who 90 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: you are aesthetically and what you aspire to in terms 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: of your values. But do you feel as if you've 92 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: changed a lot internally along your journey? 93 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: I changed a lot. I Mean the biggest life change 94 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: was starting a family. 95 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you've got two boys, right, Yeah. 96 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: Becoming a father, and that sense of responsibility. So even 97 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: though it may seem like I'm always like staying in 98 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: my lane and on brand, the truth is behind the scenes, 99 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: I've had huge emotional changes and great growth in my life. 100 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: But what do you know I both became dads recently 101 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: as well. 102 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: I congratuch at the same time. 103 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 104 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a massive shift for both times. 105 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: It's a big one. It becomes like the only important thing, 106 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: the most important thing, not the only important thing, but 107 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: definitely prioritizes everything. 108 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: I love that that message of the movie though, because 110 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: it's important for us to change, and I think it's 111 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: necessary to survive as a species. Everyone's got to be 112 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: willing to bend a little bit. Just because you're certain 113 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: you're right about something doesn't mean that you are. And 114 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: you got to keep the mind open, keep flexible. 115 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 116 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it that that Poe says? It's never 117 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: too late to do the right thing, And it's a 118 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: great message. Got some great nuggets of wisdom throughout the movie. 119 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: Other well, this isn't so much a nugget about Poe, 120 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: but he is told that he's an easy mark in 121 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: the movie for those that don't know what a mark is, 122 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: effectively post too trusting, Yeah, too trusting of people, so 123 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: he can be easily stolen from I'm interested to ask 124 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: you are you? And easy mark? 125 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: Jack Blackhead is such an easy mark. 126 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I wrote during this interview. 127 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, every time someone tells me anything, I instantly believe it. 128 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: I never am suspicious of anyone's advice or anything. And 129 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: it's pretty I'm gullible. It's embarrassing, but I think that 130 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: is a part of why I'm able to do what 131 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: I do, is because there's a lot of humor that 132 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: comes from that kind of naivete. Some would call me stupid, 133 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: but then you know, sometimes some great comedy comes from 134 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: its hi jack. 135 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: Final thing here at the end of the movie, you 136 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: do this wonderful version of Brittany hivye Baby one more time, 137 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: which is an awesome, epic way to finish it. And 138 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: we were sitting there watching and what he was like, Wow, 139 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: that guy can get really high, and I think he 140 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: might be able to get as high as I can, 141 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: because he has for a very long time claimed he's 142 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: got the best falsetto in the game. Really, I was 143 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: just wondering whether if you I don't know, the pipes 144 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: are warm or not, whether or not you guys could 145 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: hit that last outro together, because I want to see, if. 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: You know, I just could reach that girl at three 147 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: in the morning today and go on a plane. So 148 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: usually but I'll throw it down. I consider it a 149 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: challenge for the whole human race. 150 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: So that never. 151 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: Okay, son, do this. I'm gonna go first. See if 152 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: you can go higher? Okay, And if you do go higher, 153 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: I get a chance to go even higher. 154 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Okay. So we're gone from the I must confess bit 155 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: the atro bit that we have. 156 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: To actually sing the song. I thought we were just 157 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: singing raw notes. 158 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh you want to go roll? 159 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: You want to roll? 160 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Dug it? 161 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: You want to roll dug it? 162 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Jack Black, I didn't say that, Okay, So all right, 163 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: let's let's just listen to the song. 164 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: What do you want to let me hear it. 165 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: I've got the lyrics here, I've got the lyrics. So 166 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm just I wanted to go. 167 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: I must confess that my loneliness is killing me. 168 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Now, don't you know? 169 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: I still believe incredible? 170 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: Did you want to Did you want to follow that? 171 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: No? 172 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: I do not. Here's the easy mark. 173 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna hit a note, okay, I see if 174 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: you can go high? 175 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: Malollinner, malloyny, Yes, that's exactly it's the same note. 176 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Malolliner, malloyny. 177 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Cow, He's going not for note? All right, it's a draw. Well, 178 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: I can't take it. This guy's going toe to toe 179 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: with me. 180 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: I like that. 181 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: But just because you have a high voice doesn't mean 182 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: you have a good voice. 183 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: No, I know that. I do know that. 184 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: Jack. 185 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: You are high. You're very high. 186 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: Jack. 187 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: It has been great to me. 188 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: Thanks Van, Thank you will, thank you would. It's a pleasure. 189 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. 190 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: Man send dog with you all. 191 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: Anytime hear more of the boys on the full podcast, 192 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: just scroll up.