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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm long La Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter and

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Speaker 2: professional overshare us. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 2: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 2: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, all interview

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Speaker 2: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 2: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 2: Today on the pod, we have the beautiful Magdalena Rose.

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Speaker 2: She is a journo, TV presenter, meteorologist, food writer and

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Speaker 2: author and just an all round go getter and super

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Speaker 2: super super super lovely.

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Speaker 1: We have both been living near each.

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Speaker 2: Other for a couple of years now and haven't crossed

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Speaker 2: pads yet, so it was so nice to finally make

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Speaker 2: a friend. That's what it felt like chatting with Magdalena.

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Speaker 2: I hope you love this chat so much. She's so inspiring,

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Speaker 2: she's really honest and she can have a good laugh too,

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Speaker 2: so I hope you love this chat. Big love, Magdalena.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've made a new mate in you.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the pod, Magdalena Rose.

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Speaker 3: did it take this long for us to meet in

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Speaker 3: real life. I feel like it's such a lost opportunity

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Speaker 3: because you leave tomorrow and this is it.

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Speaker 2: Like but you know what, so I feel like I've

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Speaker 2: googled you at Farmer's markets from like who is this goddess?

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Speaker 1: Like head to toe like some beautiful like think it

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Speaker 1: needs to be someone else. It's not me, it's you.

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Speaker 2: My credit's you, and I'm like they're in like yeah,

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Speaker 2: crusty yogi gear and like, oh, bleary eyed, and you

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Speaker 2: just look like I feel like I'm watching a lifestyle

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's just like the five dresses I've got

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Speaker 1: on repeat. You know, well, you look beautiful today as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you on there because we

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Speaker 2: run into each other about a week ago before recording this,

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Speaker 2: and I love so you're am seeing a International Women's

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Speaker 2: Day event for the beautiful Laurna Jane, and I loved

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Speaker 2: how much you nerded out over weather with all of us,

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna pick your brains about that.

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Speaker 3: But first, you are your career is so varied. You're

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Speaker 3: a jack of all trades, so you were m seeing

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Speaker 3: that a master of none.

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Speaker 2: No, no, but like you've had an incredible career in television,

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Speaker 2: both on and off camera, starting as a researcher, then

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Speaker 1: You've literally you are a meteorologist, right am I saying that?

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Speaker 3: So I've got written here that you studied atmospheric science,

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Speaker 3: is that right?

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Speaker 3: Look, I was the weather at the Weather Channel, and

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Speaker 2: I love that when you were studying at UNI, you

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Speaker 3: But I got that from my parents, Like we came

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Speaker 2: And then here's the bit that I love that you shared.

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Speaker 1: A whole new life.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't have been it would have been so and I

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Speaker 3: like a tremendous value on that, not just like marks,

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00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,640
Speaker 3: but actually learning, Like you know, if I could, I'd

441
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,119
Speaker 3: go to university and keep going.

442
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 1: I think learning's the best. I love being in classes,

443
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 1: being in.

444
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 2: School, and obviously, like myself is probably more in the

445
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 2: creative realm right now because I'm always an acting class

446
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 2: or voice school.

447
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 1: But it does something, I swear it does something.

448
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 2: To like the neuroplasticity of your brain because you're just

449
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 2: like being in that learning state.

450
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 1: You're just so open.

451
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 2: You're like this sponge and I don't know, it does

452
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: something to you on like some weird spiritual level, which

453
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm just.

454
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: So courageous to do that.

455
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 3: Like when I heard about you like just pivoting and

456
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 3: doing acting and like going to LA and that's amazing.

457
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't have the balls

458
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 3: to do that. Like I seriously wouldn't. And I know

459
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: it probably sound like, oh, I've done so many things,

460
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 3: but I would not have the balls to go to LA,

461
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 3: especially with your success in health and wellness and to

462
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 3: just be like, fuck it, I'm going to be an actress.

463
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's thank you. That's very kind of thing.

464
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 2: It's it is equal parts terrifying and exciting at the

465
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: same time.

466
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: And so I'm just like, do you know what.

467
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 2: I always just remind myself, I go, I don't want

468
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 2: to be eighty ninety, you know, and be like, what

469
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 2: if I did that thing. I don't want that itch

470
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 2: not to have been scratched. I'm like, I'd rather go

471
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 2: give it a red hot shake. And even if it

472
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: doesn't turn out how I want it to turn out,

473
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: it's still going to turn out. Something's good going to

474
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 2: come from it, you know, And I think that like it.

475
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 2: That's what I love about And even when I was

476
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: reading about you and seeing how varied your career has

477
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: been and is like cookbook, well, like there are so

478
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: many cool things, and you gave me some Oumite before,

479
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: Like it's it's so cool to have a varied career

480
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: as I have one as well, and I think it's

481
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 2: something to be celebrated to be kind of like multi

482
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: like talented. But I do want to talk about some

483
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: of the amazing career highlights that you've had. So I'm

484
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: pretty sure this was at your time at Channel ten.

485
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 2: You've covered two Olympics. What was that like crazy? She

486
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: does someone in London? I covered London Olympics for Channel

487
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 2: ten as well.

488
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 3: What we would have been there at the Yeah, but

489
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 3: they were getting to do all the foody stories.

490
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: So I was look at you, like the health and

491
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: wellness stuff. But I used to go over and film

492
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: little segments and bring the segments back and then they

493
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: bring me on here to talk about them.

494
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: Was like I was like a Rogue Reporter.

495
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: We must have been on different shows, well shows and

496
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: also time, so I was because of the Breakfast Show.

497
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: I think I think my ship started at midnight. It

498
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: was something like that. Yeah, I'd be going out there

499
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: in the dark no oh yes, and then like coming

500
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 3: back home at like maybe four thirty five am.

501
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: It was that kind of a thing. So we must

502
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: have been ships in them because I.

503
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: Was doing I think I was doing for nine am

504
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: with David and Kim back in the day.

505
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: Oh that was that slot. That good? Yeah, it was

506
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: so much fun. But when I read that about it

507
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: was like, oh my goodness.

508
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 3: We would have like literally been there working probably with

509
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: the same cruise.

510
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: Yes exactly, how eristraight.

511
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: But I actually found it hard, Like I found that

512
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: kind of being away for that for that many weeks

513
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: and the sort of just that time difference and sort

514
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: of because everybody was working, it wasn't like in your downtime,

515
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 3: like I didn't have anyone to hang out with. Yeah,

516
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: but it sort of was like I didn't really go

517
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: out and explore like the London I either. Yeah, so

518
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: I found myself sort of, I don't know, it felt

519
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: quite lonely, that's but I think that sometimes that can

520
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 3: with like travel work as well.

521
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: Yep. And then you did Winter Olympics.

522
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I mean Sochi in Russia, like hilarious, right,

523
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: It was just it was so so interesting what a

524
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: security really like.

525
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: It was to the point.

526
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: Where like we were living basically and working out of

527
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: a compound, like you couldn't get out. It was like

528
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: a fenced off, separate mini suburb for the media. Our

529
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: hotels were there, there was like five restaurants and that

530
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: was kind of it. And then you had to catch

531
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: a bus which took you directly from there, directly to

532
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: the Olympic village. You could not explore socci. You weren't allowed.

533
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 3: That's wild, right, Oh my goodness.

534
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: It was really strange.

535
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 3: It was.

536
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: It was so weird. When I think back to it,

537
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't believe that that even happened. And

538
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: then big Brother you.

539
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, yeah, would feel like that, yes, And then

540
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 3: Grand Prix and you got to do one of my

541
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: career goals has never happened to me. But the celeb

542
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: race the best. That's one of the best experience of mind.

543
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: Do they train you, yes, you do a week of training.

544
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: Mark Scaife, the Great Mark scafe was my coach and

545
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 3: it was honestly because I love the Grand Prix and

546
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: especially everyone after watching Drives.

547
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: Side, now how good is that show?

548
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: It's the best, and so can you believe that, you know,

549
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised it doesn't happen anymore because, to be honest,

550
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: it was fraught, like like putting you know, twenty people

551
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 3: that have got no idea onto the Grand Prix track

552
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 3: to race against each other before the actual this is

553
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 3: a real we were in real cars, actually raced on

554
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: the Grand priach it after just one week of training,

555
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: right like it was mental and I remember we got

556
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: in so much trouble from Scafey because everyone was crashing.

557
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: He was like, this isn't Dodge and cars.

558
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: You know, and Wayne Cooper, the designer, broke his ribs,

559
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: I think.

560
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: And it was it was hectic but incredible. Do you

561
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: remember who won at the year you did it?

562
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: It was a cricketer and I can't remember his name,

563
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: but he was. What I saw with him was this

564
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: almost like a crazed fearlessness that only like like an

565
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: extraordinary like sports talent would have, you know, where they

566
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: take it.

567
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: Like a Formula one drive, you know, they like really

568
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: take it to the edge. Yeah. It's like he took

569
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: that speed to the very very edge in a way

570
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: that I never.

571
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: Would yeah ever, yeah yeah, yeah, you know, and so

572
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: like he was a light years ahead of us.

573
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: Light years oh wow. Yeah.

574
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: But then the Olympians like anime is the cyclist and

575
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: sir what's his name, the British one, Sir Chris Hoy.

576
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

577
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 3: The way the Olympians approach things like they had already

578
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: done some kind of a Nintendo game. You know there's

579
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: games with these tracks. Yeah, they knew the track because

580
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: the month before they did it on a thing Like

581
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: I was like, hang on a second, and then the

582
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: rest of us are.

583
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: Like what you know what I mean? I love that

584
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: the Olympians like, all right, let's start training. I was like,

585
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: this is a joke.

586
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: And so in the end, my strategy was do Stephen

587
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 3: Bradbury just take it easy, don't crash, and don't let

588
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: anyone crash into you because enough of them will and

589
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 3: then I can just cruise through them.

590
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good strategy. Yeah, yeah, that's what I did,

591
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: And I did, all right, how did you go on there?

592
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: I think like in the middle. That's what you want. Yeah, yeah,

593
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: I was going to risk my life.

594
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, just make it fun and it's

595
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: something you're always going to remember as well.

596
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: But it's the most terror, true terror I've ever felt.

597
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: Really Yeah.

598
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

599
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: Before the start of the race, like because you're in

600
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: a cage in there, you can't unlock it, and I

601
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: just kept.

602
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: Thinking, don't think about it, don't think about it. And

603
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: you're sweating in that suit and I was doing the

604
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: full like fire, yeah, and I was actually scared.

605
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: You know when it feels like you like you really

606
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: are risking your life a little bit. Yes, you make

607
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 3: one wrong turn at one hundred and eighty k an hour,

608
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: like yeah, you know.

609
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: You still makes me want to do it? Is the

610
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: best if you can do it.

611
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: Ah.

612
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: So And also I love that you. I didn't know

613
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: this entire research you're co hosting the project. Did you

614
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: love that? Yeah?

615
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: I used to feel in for carry and I really

616
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 3: loved that.

617
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you feel like you're a natural chatter. But

618
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: did you find the pace of the project quite fast?

619
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: Look, I really loved it.

620
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: I think that that for me, it was a real

621
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: highlight because I love working in a team, and I

622
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 3: love working in an excellent team. Right, So like that

623
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: that is such a well run, well oiled machine where

624
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 3: you're completely supported by the people that you're with.

625
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: You've got incredible producers. It's like you could.

626
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: Actually go on to that show with like and I'm

627
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 3: not discrept you know, everyone on there is amazing.

628
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: But my point is.

629
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: That, like you could go on there with no research

630
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: and still look good because of the producers around you.

631
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: And there's a writer's team too, isn't there? But there's

632
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: a rider's team. There's incredible people. Now everyone on there

633
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: is not like that, they're on top of that. They're

634
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 3: all amazing, which is why the whole thing ends up

635
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: being this incredible program.

636
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: Right.

637
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: But that's how good they are.

638
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, so far. Okay, I've got to ask that

639
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: some of the highlights from like weather perspective, because you've

640
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: covered You've covered like fires, haven't you push fires? Cyclones?

641
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: Has there been any moments where you've covered something?

642
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: Were you here for the dust storms.

643
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: When literally the entire east coast of Australia was shrouded

644
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: in this like red cloud.

645
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: It was like something it was apocalyptic? Wow? Yeah, I

646
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: remember walking out of.

647
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: The studio and just being like, what the hell is

648
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: going on? We sort of predicted it because we knew

649
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: there was a dust storm in Broken Hill out west,

650
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: we knew where the winds were coming from, we knew

651
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 3: it was coming this way.

652
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: But you just it's still there.

653
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 3: Something about the weather that like, this is why everybody

654
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: loves it so much, because it's one of the only

655
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: things in the whole world that we all experience every

656
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: single day that affects our decisions.

657
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Every single day.

658
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: Like right now, all anyone talks about is the humidity

659
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: and how hot it is and what am I going

660
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: to wear today? And when you know it affects every decision,

661
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: that's where it's one of the best. It's one of

662
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: the most interesting things you can talk about and study.

663
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: You know.

664
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: Well, even the way you said last week at the lunch,

665
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: you were like, you know, the earth is constantly instead

666
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: of like heating and cooling, and you said like when

667
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: it's hot, it'll then have to cool itself down. Like

668
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: that's People go, why has it rained after a couple

669
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: of days or suntime, And you're like, well, it kind

670
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: of has to.

671
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: It's in a constant state of flux. Right.

672
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: And I just think that there's so many sort of

673
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: atmospheric patterns and just general physics that I think explains

674
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: life in general, you know, which is this constant movement

675
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: and constant flux and extremes, right, and that it's never

676
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: just going to stay one way, And that guides me,

677
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: like that knowledge guides me in life because I know,

678
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: I always know that there's light. Even on the darkest days,

679
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: I know the light is coming. But even on the

680
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: days that are light, I know that you know, the

681
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: darkness may come, but it's in a constant state of

682
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: you know, movement.

683
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: And I just find that comforting knowing that that is

684
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: how the.

685
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: Earth works, That's how we are supposed to be as

686
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: opposed to being like scared or you know, you.

687
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: Can lose hope. Yeah, you know if you think that

688
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: things are never going to change. Yeah.

689
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: I love the way that you describe like, you know,

690
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: when it rains, we feel really calm. Well, you know

691
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: when you go to the ocean, it can just take

692
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: your stress or anxiety, Like it can really calm me down.

693
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: And that's that I've heard you talk about negative ions

694
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: versus like when it's like really windy and we get

695
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 2: headaches or irritated.

696
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: That's positive. Ions.

697
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: These things are real, you know, like the And this

698
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: is what I love is that when people and children

699
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: especially get like irritated on windy days, when you're feeling frazzled,

700
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: or when you feel like just calmer and cleansed after

701
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: rain and that smell, that petrocore that comes after like

702
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: a big storm.

703
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: You know, all of this stuff is real and it's

704
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: so validating.

705
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: So it's not like in your head pressure differences can

706
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: give you headaches. Like it's it's real. The weather has

707
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: an enormous impact on how we feel.

708
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: Oh and even the way you said like on a

709
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: rainy that like I love, Like we love cozying up.

710
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 1: And reading on those days.

711
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: And yes, there's something so like also, we're so lucky here.

712
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: It rains in the nighttime too, and I'm like, yes,

713
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: falling asleep to rain is like such a like calming

714
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: way to fall asleep.

715
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: It's a total like influencer of mood. Right.

716
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: And I remember when I was writing my cookbook. Instead

717
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: of you know, dividing my chapters by season. You know,

718
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: so many of us eat seasonally as we should, I

719
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: divided it by the weather because I feel like I

720
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: matter the season. You still say, like in the season

721
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: of spring, you will get cold days and you'll get

722
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: hot days, and depending on the weather of that day,

723
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: like you could be the middle of summer, right and

724
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: if it's just slightly cooler and raining, you want to ragoo.

725
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

726
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: Don't say it for winter. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just

727
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: waiting for like a bit of a breeze. Yeah, so

728
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: I just a slight breeze so I can put the

729
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: fire on and make it regoot.

730
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: I love that.

731
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: And as an happy in hole you're talking about, it's

732
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: such a I looked at the covers.

733
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: It's such a pretty book. I think it's so old.

734
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: It's so it's like and you know, everyone's like when

735
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: you're writing the next one, like you know, in the

736
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: world of books, you've written like, oh, honestly, it's the

737
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: but you've written so many, I know, but there they are,

738
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: especially because when we do cookbooks, which is what you're

739
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: burst in as well, that's a whole production, like you're

740
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: shooting it for two weeks.

741
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: I know, But how many have you done? Like ten?

742
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Don eleven?

743
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: Wow, I remember even your smoothie one and just going

744
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: how can a person come up with this many different incredible,

745
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: I know, but still I remember, like, just because I

746
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: know what it takes, I'm thinking, this is incredible that

747
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: someone can come up with this many different types of smoothies.

748
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: You know what I used to do.

749
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: I'd just block out a certain amount of time and

750
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: be like, this is respue testing time, and I give

751
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: myself a full month of just recpue testing, and I'd

752
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: send it all to a recpue test because my oven

753
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: is not going to be the same as yours, or

754
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: my blender might be neutrable it yours might be who knows,

755
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: and so do always get somebody, and then by the

756
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: time the RECPUE tester had them, I'd be onto the

757
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: manuscript part, and so I wouldn't be thinking about the

758
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: food in more, because you kind of get over it.

759
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: You're a well world machine. No, but that was my trick.

760
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: I was like, you get over if you don't have

761
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: a structure. I always think, I don't want to be

762
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: rescue testing bliss ball for the four months writing the book.

763
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: I'd rather do it in one hundred time and then

764
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: focus on writing about the mental health whatever it is. Yes,

765
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: so that's my theory. Incredible compartment this spoken like a

766
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: true virgo. Compartmentalize as much as you can. But I

767
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: can see why people would be asking for more books

768
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: from you, because we like what you have to share.

769
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: But also where we live is so such like a

770
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: visually beautiful part of the world, and it's just it's

771
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: you want to know, like you want to be creative here.

772
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: This is the year of the next book, is it. Yeah,

773
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: it's been ten years if you can believe.

774
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: That, Wow, I know.

775
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: But the thing is, I never felt an urge to like,

776
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: got to follow My personality isn't like got to follow

777
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: it up, like what's the next what's you know, what's

778
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: the next I do? I'm always working and doing stuff,

779
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: but not because like.

780
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Got to have the next.

781
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm like, no, no, no, I still stand by that

782
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: book like I haven't even today. There's not a word

783
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: I would change. Yeah, it's still the same philosophy. Yeah,

784
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: I still cook the same recipes. No one's ever actually

785
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: going to make you know, or sixty or eighty of

786
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: the recipes anyway, do you know what I mean? It's

787
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: still relevant yeah, or good you know, And I was

788
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: too busy with the kids. But like now I feel like, yes,

789
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: this is the year of the next.

790
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's such a good It's funny.

791
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: I think you get little inklings like when you've got

792
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: to write. I've just I've just finished another finished a

793
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: book right now. But it's a different kind of genre.

794
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: To what I'm usually writing.

795
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh god, it's so funny the way you

796
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: get the little buzz I don't know.

797
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: I just I bit like you. I trained because I

798
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: hadn't written this genre. I went I went to book

799
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 2: school and full went to writing school and trained same

800
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: as you though, because I was like, I need to

801
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: skill up if I want to change genres, like I

802
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: need to know.

803
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh amazing.

804
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: But it's I get it, Like I think, as well,

805
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: there's something so nice, and tell me you feel the

806
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: same way. It's so nice to go, I've got this idea.

807
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: Let's like commit to this project. We kind of touched

808
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: on this at the event the other day. And then

809
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: like you honor that project wholeheartedly, and then you kind

810
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 2: of like let it go into the ether, like whether

811
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: that's to.

812
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: A publisher or a literary agent.

813
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: Order and then and then you kind of like honor

814
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: that and then it goes through this whole editing process

815
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: that you don't get to see sometimes and then you're

816
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: kind of honoring something else. Well that's going on. It's interesting.

817
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm a bit like you, like, very project based.

818
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, this is this really cool thing that

819
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: I love and I'm going to honor right now. And

820
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: if that morphs into something else, how cool. Like I

821
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: think that's a really nice way to live, especially someone

822
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: that has so many elements to their career. It's really

823
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: cool if you're like, Okay, well I'm going to be

824
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: leaning into more MCing this month because I've got three

825
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: or four m seeing things where I need to be

826
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: in that mindset exactly.

827
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: You know. For me, I teach yogas.

828
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm like, all right, i'm going to go when

829
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: I go back to America, I'm going to lean in

830
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: teaching your house.

831
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: It's never really all that comfortable with it. It's taken

832
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: me so long.

833
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: I always sort of thought like it's almost like I

834
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 3: didn't appreciate the randomness of it. Yes, you know, especially

835
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: because I came from ten years plus of like a

836
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: job like just TV, like just TV presenter.

837
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: That's it, Like that's what I do. Yeah, to go.

838
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: From that to just sort of it's constantly different, like

839
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: every week, every month, every year is different.

840
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: I know, but only now do I feel comfortable with it.

841
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: It's sort of always felt like, oh, I need to

842
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: anchor myself in something. Totally No, I completely understand that.

843
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: But it's quite nice to be like, you knowing, to

844
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: have a product out and like there is so many

845
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: and you've.

846
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: Done so many cool things.

847
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: Like I was researching, I was like, show on the

848
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: front cover Rdal magazine and.

849
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: Then you're on the front cover, you know, a lifestyle magazine.

850
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, you do not stop.

851
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: So I just think my meditation teacher used to always

852
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: say to me, just follow the charm. And I feel

853
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: like you're very good at following. Like I'm gonna do

854
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: that thing that feels really good right now, hmm.

855
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. But it took it.

856
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: It took a long time, honestly, because when I first

857
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: moved to Byron, like that first.

858
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: Few months was like amazing, yeah, right, because it's.

859
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: Like you've left the city and it's beautiful and you're

860
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: working healing and my partner was opening a new restaurants

861
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: that was exciting the.

862
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: Farm, Yeah, which is if anyone is visiting, you have

863
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: to go to It's like getting to have little piglets

864
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: as well at the same time.

865
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean, we never could have known, yeah, like what

866
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: it would become.

867
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: But like I've taught yoga at like yoga media events

868
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: in the shed where I get married at the back.

869
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah for Swiss.

870
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was a Swiss day and I was

871
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: like teaching Vinyasa. And then the farm did this epic

872
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: brecky for.

873
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: Us all, haven't. I'm sure we've seen each other from

874
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: a distance.

875
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: This is so strange, and then here here we find

876
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: ourselves in this middle room.

877
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: It's so far.

878
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: But the thing is, I look, I don't want it

879
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: to look like it's always easy, okay, because I think

880
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: that my life from the outside could look like everything's

881
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: just fallen into place.

882
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: It hasn't. It was really hard.

883
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: And when I first moft to Byron, I had a

884
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: full identity crisis. I was so worried that all these

885
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: years that I'd put into studying went to waste that

886
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: like you know, studying journalism, study atmospheric science. Now what

887
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm in Byron, like just doing what you know. And

888
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: it was at a time when like nobody was actually

889
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: living here, like I mean, people were. There were way

890
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: more like pioneering people than me and bar and like

891
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: Shelley Craft and people like that. So like I'm definitely

892
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: not the first, but you know what I mean, Like

893
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: it was an early time and I was like around

894
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: thirty years old too to leave a career behind. I

895
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: didn't have kids yet, and just like Settle in this

896
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: regional area, there was no habitat, there was no three ducks,

897
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: there was no farms, like do.

898
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, kind of that existed.

899
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: So for somebody that is got a bit of a passion,

900
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: bit of a spark for working somewhere in the media industry,

901
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 2: what's your advice, because it can be feel a bit daunting.

902
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look it's really boring, but it's just train. Right,

903
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: If you haven't had the training before, I think, find

904
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: somebody or a school or somewhere where you can gain

905
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: the skills and confidence to actually be a good communicator

906
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: in the media, because I think so many people are

907
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 3: so hard on themselves thinking.

908
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: They should just be able to do it.

909
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a skill like any other job, right

910
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: that like you and I have actually trained for and

911
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: so I feel like you've got to be able to

912
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: do that, because like I wouldn't be able to walk

913
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: into somebody else's job as like a professional I don't

914
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: know a fashion designer or mechanic or whatever.

915
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: So how can these people expect themselves to do that craft?

916
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: You know? Do you still get nervous? No?

917
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: Really, It's the one thing that I truly feel comfortable with,

918
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: and that's why I know I need to sort of

919
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: nurture it a little bit more moving forward, because it's

920
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: the one thing that like I feel at home and

921
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: it's easy, whereas a lot of other things I do

922
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 3: that they're hard.

923
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: You know, I find like social media stuff quite challenging.

924
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes there's a lot of different stuff that I do

925
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: where I think, oh, this is really hard and like

926
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: stressful presenting not even like one bit.

927
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: There's a beautiful actor I think his name is that

928
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: Joseph Gordon love It. He's a beautiful American and he

929
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: said that when he hears camera rolling, he's like it

930
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: becomes like a meditation, and he just like, yes, it's

931
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: like that flow state, right, it's the flow stang. Yeah,

932
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: And isn't it amazing when you can find the flow

933
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: state in work. Oh my goodness, that's the dream, which

934
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: is why it's like a lot of artists, you know,

935
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: And it's not about the end goal like oh that

936
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: painting is really beautiful now, or like oh I've done

937
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: this show whatever. It's actually like it's so cliched, but

938
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: it's the journey of doing it. I love the journey

939
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: of the interview. I love the journey of the show

940
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: or the mc gig. It's just like that's when, you know,

941
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: and I think the actual doing and the journey can

942
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: eat can be feel viscerally like so different to what

943
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: the audience might see on tally too. So you want

944
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: to enjoy because you never get that back totally.

945
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: But look, you know, a little bit of nerves doesn't hurt.

946
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 3: And I always say, use that to your advantage, yeah,

947
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: because sometimes sometimes I don't know what I would call it,

948
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: but there's an excitement or something, yeah, and I use

949
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: that energy to give a better performance.

950
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: Otherwise it might feel like.

951
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: A little bit lackluster or yead of like you've got

952
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: a lift sometimes, you know. So I think it's good

953
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: to use that nervous if it is nervous energy or

954
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 3: excitement or whatever, use it to your advantage totally.

955
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: My therapist said, it's like the same thing like when

956
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: we feel nervous. He's like, you know, the body literally

957
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: just thinks like nerves and excitement act physiologically the same

958
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: in the body. He's like, so if you're nervous, it's

959
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: like he goes, just ask if it's excitement, And that's

960
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: quite a good hack.

961
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: If you're like, if they're like cameras.

962
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: Are going to be on and we're on in five

963
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my gods, I'm nervous, be like

964
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 2: hang on or am I just really excited?

965
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: And then you can lean into that spark like you

966
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: were just saying.

967
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: And just I always say, what's the worst thing that

968
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: can happen? Right, because if you imagine the very worst

969
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: case scenario, which for me when doing the project would

970
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: be that the AUTOQ suddenly because that that show is

971
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: so like to the protuy that if the Autoque suddenly

972
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: died and I was in the middle of news stories,

973
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: what am I going to do? Or if I'm talking

974
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: about something and your mind just goes blank, like it

975
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: can what are you going to do? So I would

976
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: like visualize the very very worst case scenario and imagine

977
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 3: myself in it and then get through it and think,

978
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: you know what people are forgiving, People are compassionate, and

979
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: sometimes it can be really funny totally, especially on TV. Yeah,

980
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: so use the mistakes to your advantage.

981
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

982
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that just makes it a little

983
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 3: bit more accessible. It's I actually love it when stuff

984
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: ups happen on TV.

985
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: You love stuff up.

986
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: That's if anyone's ever going to go on Telly or

987
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 3: do an interview of something like, embrace the stuff ups.

988
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't know about you, but you being

989
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: a foodie as well.

990
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: I always loved when Jamie Oliver brings his shows out

991
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: and he'd leave his little blunders in yeah, and because

992
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: he was so much more human to watch, And I

993
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: was like, I love that he's not editing himself to

994
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: be perfect.

995
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: He's just like, oh, put the wrong bit of that

996
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: in there.

997
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, great, Yeah, And I think we need more

998
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: of that because I think everything, especially now, is so

999
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: curative within an inch of its life that like everybody's

1000
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: hungry for authenticity and not fake authenticity, authenticity because there's

1001
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: there as well. Yeah, one of the conversation, Yeah kills me, Yeah,

1002
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: it kills me. Yeah, but real like, actually, you know,

1003
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: and it doesn't mean showing a dirty laundry, but it

1004
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: just means like allowing those mistakes.

1005
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, let it be a bit messy. Exactly. It's a

1006
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: good thing. I could talk to you all day long.

1007
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: I know, when I get back from LA, let's have

1008
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: a farmer's market date.

1009
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: Let's that day. Totally.

1010
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: I can't wait to share my favorite producers with you

1011
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: and the guy that I love getting the breakfast from. Oh, totally,

1012
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: because you were such a joy. And for those that

1013
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: haven't met you in real life, I can attest to

1014
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: the fact that you are as warm and generous and

1015
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: kind and just so like heart led. It's not just

1016
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: the person that you see on the front cover of

1017
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 3: a book that may seem like that.

1018
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: You really are.

1019
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: The feeling is so so mutal. And I, like I said,

1020
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: when you walked in, I was like, the reason why

1021
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: I had to get you on the pod was I

1022
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: just love the way you lit up when I saw

1023
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: you emcing and running this whole event.

1024
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: And I thought, oh, you're like me. You've got passions

1025
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: and you nerd.

1026
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: Out over things and you know, and I was like, oh,

1027
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: I've got to just have a little chit like a

1028
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: fin wag with this basically because it's that passion and

1029
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: that spark, and it makes me so excited to see

1030
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: what this year is going to be for you, whether

1031
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: it's books, tally, the works. And you've got a cheerleater

1032
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: in me, So thank you so much for job JN.

1033
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, it's been the best. Thank you.

1034
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.

1035
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: As always, thank you to.

1036
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: Our guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram.

1037
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo Lullaberry. This potty my word for podcast

1038
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: is available on all streaming platforms.

1039
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: I'd love it if you could subscribe, rape and comment

1040
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,239
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