1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Corbyn. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Baxter is one of the pioneers of modern day professional NURLW, 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: but her sporting journey actually started with a love of netball, 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: something she refused to give up as she went on 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: to raise her son from the age of sixteen. While 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: managing motherhood, Corbyn discovered the law of rugby league and 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: hit the ground running, going from spectator to Jill Aru's 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: player within twelve months. Channeling her self described calmness and positivity, 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: she went on to captain the Maury All Stars and 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: eventually captain the Roosters to premiership success in twenty twenty two. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: My name is Sophie and I'm the producer here at 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: the Female Athlete Project. Chloe caught up with Corbyn heading 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: into this year's NRLW Grand Final as her Roosters were 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: preparing to take on the Sharks while the Chookies got 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: the Chockies. Corbyn cheered on from the sidelines as she 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: rehabs her acis injury. This chat proves that patience and 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: resilience will take you a long way. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoy. 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: It, Corbyn. Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. It's great to be here. 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to having a chat. You've actually rocked 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: up the day after the dam Yeah, you're fresh. 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. I felt like I probably should have downed a 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 5: couple of champios going on stage because the nerves hit me. 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: I was cool all day. 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 5: We had rehearsals and then I think, just like when 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 5: we're going out for our first segment with Lara. That 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 5: first segment was like quite free flowing and questions for me, 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 5: but the rest was very heavily scripted, which I wasn't 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 5: nervous about. But the first part I was like, don't 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 5: stumble over my words and whatnot. But no, it was 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: a really good night and yeah, a little bit of 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 5: a different side to what I usually do. I'm usually 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 5: there as a player, so being backstage and doing some 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 5: of the presenting was fun. 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's really cool seeing that side of what 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: you do, right, because it's kind of like adding on 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: layers of you as a person, which I felt that 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: sounds really corny, but it's like, you know, just a 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: pooty player. 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. And I guess I'm sort of like 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 5: towards the back. I'm signed for two more years, but 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 5: I'm going towards the back end of my booty career. 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: And it's funny, like you don't. 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 5: Want to think about what we're going to do post, 46 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: but you sort of need to. If you're smart, you 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 5: think about the things that you enjoy doing. And I 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 5: love that media side of things and coaching as well. 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 5: So the more that I can sort of dabble in 50 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 5: it before I eventually retire is yeah a good move 51 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 5: for me, and yeah, I enjoy it as well. 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: Take us back to the beginning, born over in New Zealand, 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: what were you like as a little kid. 54 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I was a little tomboy I had. 55 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 5: I have four brothers, so yeah, I just remember doing 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 5: a lot of knee footy in the loungry. 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: With them and a lot of fights and whatnot. 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 5: And yeah, I was just a rough little Mouldi girl 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 5: that was running around barefoot and running off to the 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 5: neighbors houses and just. 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Been a little menace. But yeah, I just remember. 62 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 5: Always loving being active and loving sport and just having 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 5: fun with my family. 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, like really grateful for those moments. 65 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 5: Like I know it's a long time ago, but you 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 5: do some of those moments stick with you, and I 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 5: think they make you realize that shapes like who I 68 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 5: am now. So yeah, I just a family girl that 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 5: loved you know, having a bit of fun with the bras. 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: How good. What were your main sports as a kid. 71 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: My main sport was netball. 72 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I played a lot of netball from the age 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: of I think Mum put me into a little netball 74 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 5: at four years old and then I played all the 75 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: way through until after I had my first son, Karta, 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: when I was sort of sixteen. 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: I think I played for another year. 78 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 5: Or two after that I was tag touch footy. But yeah, 79 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: netball was my main sport, but I tried lots of things. 80 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 5: It was, yeah, a little bit of just trying different 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: things and Mum taking me all around the country, not 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 5: the country but more like Sydney, and just yeah, doing 83 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: whatever I wanted to do, which I was very, very 84 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 5: lucky to. 85 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: Have a I chatted on our weekly podcast last week 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago with Betz, who I co 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: hosts that with, and we actually talked about sometimes like 88 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 4: the privilege that comes with having a family who is 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: willing or has the ability to drive you around, yeah, 90 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 4: to a whole range of different sports. Like I think 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: as a kid, you just don't realize. 92 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: No, not at all. 93 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 5: And I was very privileged with that my mum and dad. 94 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 5: But yeah, allowed me to do whatever I wanted to do. 95 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: And it's interesting now that I'm a mum and I've got, 96 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: you know, a thirteen year old that is doing the 97 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 5: exact same and playing lots of different sports do. 98 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: He loves his footy, he plays touch. 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 5: And tag and sometimes I catch myself, I'm like, oh, 100 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: You've got to pick one because I can't run your 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 5: a roun jumping and that I'm like, Corbyn, this was 102 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: you and just like I just have to remind myself 103 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: how much I love playing all different sports and I 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 5: grew up. 105 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: But it's a. 106 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 5: Challenge because I'm still playing, so that side of it, 107 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 5: Like I would love to be able to get card 108 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 5: to everything, but that's the challenge that I find myself in. 109 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 5: It's obviously a bit different to my mummy wasn't playing 110 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: sport when I was young. So I do as best 111 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 5: as I can and I'm likely to have a great husband. 112 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: And my parents were around to get my boy to 113 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 5: all of his sports too, so I know I was privilegion. 114 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 5: I tried my best to give my son the same opportunities. 115 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: So when Carter was born, were you still playing netball? Yeah? 116 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: What was it like back then? Because I think thirteen 117 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 4: years ago we've seen real progress being made in that 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: space around information for athletes returning from pregnancy and all 119 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: those things. But you wouldn't have had a lot to 120 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 4: rely on. 121 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: No, there wasn't much at all back then. 122 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: I was, Yeah, I was playing netball still when I 123 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: fell pregnant with Carter, and when I came back, I yeah, 124 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 5: I went back and just played some club netball and 125 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 5: I loved it. For me, it was just getting back 126 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 5: into what I loved doing that was playing sport played. 127 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 5: I was tag in touch as well, so did that 128 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 5: for a couple of years, and. 129 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sort of just make it up as 130 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: you go. I just listened to my body. 131 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 5: I was lucky that I was very young and was 132 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: able to bounce back pretty well. But yeah, it was 133 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 5: just a matter of just listening to how I felt 134 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: after having him and just slowly getting back into it. 135 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 5: And yeah, it was I was lucky to be able 136 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: to do that pretty quickly. 137 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: When did you first have an inkling that you wanted 138 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 4: to try to play a bit of league? 139 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: I first had inkling when I watched I remember watching 140 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: a test match between the Dillers and the Kiwi Ferns 141 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 5: and my sister in law Mattie started and Sam Bremna, 142 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 5: some girls that I played touch footy with at Crinala 143 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: were playing in it, and. 144 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was the thing that. 145 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 5: Was literally the first game I'd ever watched, heard of 146 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: because of the people I knew, and I fell in love, 147 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: and I had just had Carter maybe a year before, 148 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 5: and I knew that I wanted to give it a 149 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: go eventually. I think it was the next year that 150 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 5: I started playing rugby league eventually, But yeah, as soon 151 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 5: as I saw the product, and it was quite raw 152 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 5: back then, but it just looks so fun and that 153 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 5: collision side of things, I just wanted to give it 154 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 5: a go, and yeah, sort of fell in love with 155 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 5: it from there. 156 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: I read somewhere that you went from being a spectator 157 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: to representing your country in the space for about a year. 158 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: It does feel like that a little bit. It did 159 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: happen really quickly. 160 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 5: I feel like I was playing for the Helensburg Tigers 161 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 5: with Maddie and Sam and Alana Ferguson and just my 162 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: mat around. I know, we had a team back then, 163 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: and then ye got selected in the new South Wales squad. 164 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: Back then it was the Interstate Challenge. It wasn't branded 165 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 5: the Origin yet but still a massive honor. And yeah, 166 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: I was a bit short, like I was literally just playing. 167 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 5: I'd played maybe a handful of rugby league games and 168 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 5: found myself in that squad and eventually made the team 169 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: and played in my first ever Interstate Challenge that same year. 170 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: So it was pretty wild. 171 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: And yeah, looking back on it, like just made me 172 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: fall in love with the game and more just the 173 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 5: opportunities that opened for me. 174 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: I was playing like a little bit of sevens. 175 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: I was dabbling in both, but I just feel like 176 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: the opportunities that opened for me in league and the 177 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: game was probably a bit more suited to me as well. 178 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 5: And yeah, it was a bit of a will been 179 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 5: looking back ten years or ten past years. 180 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: Ago, how it all started is pretty crazy. 181 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: That's really cool. I am a big advocate for like, 182 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 4: you know, when people always ask questions about their kids, 183 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: for kids playing a range of different sports, how do 184 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: you think you're like, what did you bring from netball 185 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 4: into league? 186 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh, it's really funny. 187 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 5: When people ask what your sport is and I say netball, 188 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: Like you get some of the people that have no 189 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 5: idea about netball sort of like turn their nose up 190 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 5: at you. Like on netball, like it's a bit of 191 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: a noticing physical and it's so physical, and I just 192 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 5: I think you've got to have the athleticism to be 193 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 5: at an opponent without just crashing into them, and that's 194 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 5: like the agility, and you've got to you know, have 195 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: good hand eye coordination. I think that's all the skills 196 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 5: that I've been able to translate into my game. And 197 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 5: you know, I started in the center, so that was 198 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: really important. And yeah, like I just have a lot 199 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 5: of admiration for the game of netball. And there's a 200 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 5: few girls like Julie Robinson was a netballer. There's a 201 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 5: few others in the game that have transferred over really well. 202 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: And I just think it comes from those core skills 203 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 5: that are transferable to Rugbylly. 204 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: I was a basketballer, so I don't know netball well, 205 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 4: but I feel like from watching the Giants girls that 206 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: play netball that I know, I feel like there almost 207 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 4: seems to be like, like you said, you have to 208 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: be able to beat an opponent without crashing into them. 209 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: It seems like a lot of like anticipating and forward 210 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: planning around like positioning and where you're going to be. Yeah, 211 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: you almost like beat your opponent before the ball even 212 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: gets there exactly. 213 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: Yes, and just that spatial wiryyes and yeah, like when 214 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 5: you think about you put like the mental game and 215 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 5: smarts of your game into physically being able to execute 216 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: your plan as well. 217 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's I'm the same. 218 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 5: Like I don't know much about basketball, but I imagine 219 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 5: it's it's quite similar that. Yeah, there's a lot more 220 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: to it than being physical, which I love about rugby league, 221 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 5: but it just you know, just adds a little bit 222 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: extra to when you can transfer over to it. 223 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: How did it feel pulling on the Australian jersey for 224 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: the first time? 225 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 226 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 5: I remember the first time put it on was in 227 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 5: the nine tournament. 228 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Actually we played in the Auckland Nines back then and 229 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: it was it was really fun. 230 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: It was a really awesome environment that sort of seven's 231 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 5: a bit of a party vibe. 232 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: So we played over in New Zealand and. 233 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: We won that series was the best of three series, 234 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 5: so that was wait, am I lying? 235 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: I think that was the second year. I think the first. 236 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: Actually lost a series. I put on the jersey so 237 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 5: I won, but no, it was special. And then playing 238 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 5: my first Test match was was amazing to the Kiwi 239 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 5: Ferns really dominant back then. We definitely lost that first 240 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: game I put on, but yeah, being able to represent 241 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 5: my country, the first time that I've been able to 242 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: do that in any sport was yeah, something that I'll 243 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: cherish forever. And it's a long time ago, but yeah, 244 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 5: I can remember that like it was yesterday. 245 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: How does it feel because I played with a few 246 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: girls in sevens for those sevens who were from New 247 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: Zealand may have grown up there or grown up here. 248 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 4: What does it feel like when there's like a really 249 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: big rivalry between those two teams but you were born 250 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: there but you represent Australia. 251 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a weird feeling. I feel like I 252 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 5: moved to Australia when I was so young and for me, 253 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 5: like Ozzie's always felt like home. 254 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: Just because I grew up here. 255 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: A lot of you know, made all my friends while 256 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: I've lived in Australia too, so those early years, you know, 257 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 5: I was Aussie through and through, and I didn't really 258 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 5: feel a massive connection to the Kiwi Ferns. And like, 259 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: I get that asked that question a lot, like why 260 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: didn't you play for the Kiwi Ferns, And to me 261 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: is because you know, I grew up playing all of 262 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 5: my sport in Australia, played rugby league here for the 263 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 5: first time and then it just happened with New South 264 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 5: Bowls and Ozzie so it. 265 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Just felt right, yea. 266 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, I didn't feel like I was torn at 267 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 5: all and playing against them. 268 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: They were just the enemy to me. 269 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 5: But it's interesting as I've gotten older and I've been 270 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 5: able to play with the Maldi, with the Multi All 271 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 5: Stars and you know, play alongside some Kiwi Ferns at 272 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: club level now too, it's definitely a different story. And 273 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 5: like in saying that, I'm a Jilla ruth and through, 274 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 5: I still love my my Maori heritage and coming from 275 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: New Zealand, but yeah, it just feels natural to pull 276 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: on that green and gold and go out against the Kiwis. 277 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: So you captain the Multi All Stars team and you 278 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: play against the Indigenous All Stars, It's I feel like 279 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 4: league do a really good job of that and I 280 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 4: think Lee do an amazing job of wrecking people's different 281 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: cultures and heritage. What does that mean to you? 282 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really special. 283 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 5: I growing up in Australia wasn't immersed in my Maldi culture, 284 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 5: so that week is always really like special is the 285 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 5: word that comes to mind, Like I get to learn 286 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 5: about my culture. I get to be around strong, powerful 287 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 5: Maldy women as well. And we have you know, our 288 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 5: Moldy leaders who come in and tell us stories and 289 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: teach us more. And we were just able to immerse 290 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 5: ourselves in it for a full week. And yeah, I 291 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 5: love that rugby league is so inclusive of you know, 292 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: all the different cultures within rugby league because there are 293 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: so many, and yeah, it's just it's just an amazing 294 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 5: opportunity to be able to, you know, spend that time 295 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 5: and learn. And also for the indigenous girls too, they 296 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 5: get to do the exact same thing. 297 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: And then bringing both. 298 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: Cultures together, it's just beautiful and you sort of forget 299 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: about the game of rugby league at the end of 300 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: the week and it's it is a lot about you know, 301 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 5: the build up and coming together and celebrating both those cultures. 302 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 4: It's really special. Do you remember the moment you found 303 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: out that NROLW was coming to life. 304 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: I do. I remember it so clearly. 305 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 5: We literally just won the twenty seventeen World Cup and 306 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 5: I think I was with Roe one Sims and we 307 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 5: were heading to maybe a interview or back to our 308 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: team room or something, and our media manager at the time, 309 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 5: Tom Gallimore, told us, Hey, this wasn't so stappened for 310 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 5: a couple of years, but it's going to get announced 311 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 5: tomorrow that the NLW is going to kick off next year. 312 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 5: Can you do come in and do a like a 313 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: press release like next week? And we were not, like 314 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: what Like, we were just so shook from it, Like 315 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: we had been told that it was in the talks, 316 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 5: but probably wasn't going. 317 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: To happen for a few years. 318 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 5: So the fact that you know, the quality of the 319 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: game was getting so good and we were, you know, 320 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 5: pretty much forcing it upon you know, that the big 321 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 5: dogs to get it going earlier, was was pretty amazing. 322 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: And yeah, it was really cool because we've been waiting 323 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 5: for something like that, and the fact that we got it, 324 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 5: you know that a little bit earlier, which is you know, 325 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: propelled the game sooner, which is what we're after, so yeah, 326 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 5: it was. 327 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: It was a really cool moment with Rue. 328 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: It's quite interesting like that period of time because even 329 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: the AFOW I think it was a really similar story 330 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 4: where there'd been talks about like it's going to happen 331 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: in a few years, and then it was almost like 332 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: the heads of competitions were like, we need to we 333 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: need to keep up here almost and I think there's 334 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: been like I know in league, there's a lot of 335 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: union players that have come across. It's almost like there's 336 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: always been this level of competition between the different code, 337 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: which which I think in women's sport is a really 338 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: positive thing. 339 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: It is I think so too, because there's so many 340 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: amazing female athletes out there and I love seeing the 341 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 5: cross code. It's obviously a bit hard if the comp 342 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: petitions as around the same time, but any opportunity for 343 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: for women to be able to, you know, go over 344 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 5: and show their talents and other codes is awesome. 345 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: And we've seen that with you know. 346 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: Some AFL girls, soccer girls the rugby seven skills coming 347 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 5: to league. 348 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Don't see so much league girls go elsewhere. 349 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: What do you think that's about. 350 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 5: I think rugby league in the most respectful way is 351 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: quite a simple game and you could probably pick it up. 352 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 5: Like I couldn't imagine me going to try and learning 353 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 5: to play AFL. 354 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 355 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 5: It''s like not everyone kicks in rugby league and to 356 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 5: be able to you've got to obviously have that skill 357 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 5: to go and play AFL W and. 358 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: Rugby union is quite technical. So I don't know. 359 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: I just yeah, in the most respectful, respectful way, I 360 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 5: think that you can sort of pick up rugby league. 361 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: It takes some time. 362 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 5: There's definitely some intricacies that you've got to learn, but yeah, 363 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 5: you can sort of pick it up a little bit quicker. 364 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense. 365 00:16:58,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 366 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: So being a part of the roosters, what was it like? 367 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: How did it feel with this new competition and leading 368 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: the team? 369 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing. I ended up missing the first season. 370 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 5: I dissicated my shoulder in the women's set of Origin 371 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 5: the year before, so I missed out, but the girls, 372 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 5: like I was pretty devastated about that. 373 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to be part of the first one. 374 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 5: But it was cool to watch it from the sidelines 375 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 5: and see, you know, the first e of aneral W 376 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 5: premiership take off. 377 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: Although it was it was quite short and. 378 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 5: Looking back like it was a bit laughable when you 379 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 5: look at it. But we had to start somewhere, you know, 380 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 5: And it was a three round season with a straight 381 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 5: round final, and yeah, I remember we had a giggle 382 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: about it through it and looking back we still have 383 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: a giggle and think how was How was that a competition? 384 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, got to start somewhere. 385 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: And the fact that it's come to the point where 386 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 5: it is now and at quite a steady pace, I 387 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: think has been important for the growth of eneral w 388 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 5: But yeah, we started there and made the most of 389 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 5: it and I'm really proud to be a part of 390 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: you know that inaugural year in some capacity, and was 391 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 5: yet chomping at the bit to get back out there 392 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 5: in the twenty nineteen season. So I had a lot 393 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: of fun with mychokies. 394 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: I want to touch on the twenty twenty one semifinal 395 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: against the Broncos and you're the captain of the team, 396 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 4: You're down sixteen nil. Yeah, in the semifinal. What do 397 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: you remember the feeling amongst the group? Do you remember 398 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: anything about how you were trying to hype the girls are. 399 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. 400 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 5: I we were sixteen Niel in the early minutes of 401 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 5: the game. 402 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Like the first half of the first half, we actually. 403 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 5: Gained back from memory a bit of momentum towards the 404 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: back end, and so that made my job a little 405 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 5: bit easier at halftime. It was while we were out 406 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: there for that first three minutes it was hard to 407 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 5: get some motivation. 408 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: For myself and to pass on to the girls. 409 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 5: But we were actually, yeah, we actually gained back a 410 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 5: little bit of my moment I think we scored a 411 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: try or two and we rained it in a little 412 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 5: bit and we could feel the tides turning a little bit. 413 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 5: So I remember my chat was like, we have an 414 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 5: opportunity here to make history. The Broncos had won three 415 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 5: back to back premierships and for that year, it wasn't 416 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 5: our best year. We lost I think our first two 417 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 5: or three two games I think, and then finished stronger. 418 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: We lost against the Dragons going into that semi final, 419 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 5: but points worked in our favor and we just snuck 420 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 5: into the top four. So to knock off the Broncos 421 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 5: in that semi was probably my favorite game. I mean 422 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 5: winning the premiership the game after that was awesome too, 423 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 5: but just the way. 424 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: We did it, like no one everyone had. 425 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 5: Ridden us off. Most people probably turned off the telly 426 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: at halftime because we. 427 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Were down by so much. 428 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 5: But I just remember like trying to get the girls 429 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: to believe in themselves. I think that was our model 430 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: of that year, just to have some belief. And yeah, 431 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 5: we turned things around and got that and it was 432 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 5: literally the best. 433 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: Feeling of how good. 434 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 4: Yeah that's awesome. 435 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 5: It was awesome. And oh I love Meally, She's obviously 436 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: my team. I never liked saying like tears coming better 437 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 5: her eyes. 438 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 4: It made us So that's really cool. Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah, 439 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: being in a leadership capacity, so we touched on the 440 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: Maori All Stars but also leadership at the Roosters. What 441 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 4: do you think it is about you? Like, what is 442 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 4: your skill set that makes you a good leader. 443 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 5: I think I'm quite a positive person. I'm quite calm. 444 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: That's sort of my leadership style. I'm probably a bit 445 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 5: more on the on the laid back style of leadership. 446 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 5: Whereas you know, I've been lucky enough to captain alongside Isabelle. 447 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: Kelly, who is just a leader who. 448 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: Leads by example on the field and can really get 449 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 5: into you and and and be vocal as well. But 450 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 5: like people really respond to that. And my style is 451 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: a bit more being a calming influence and positive and 452 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 5: I think that served me really well that year we 453 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 5: won because heads were down after you know, that second 454 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 5: third round, thinking that we were out of it, and 455 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 5: you've got to find a balance of being you know, 456 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 5: you don't want to be naive and just. 457 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: Be like toxic positivity. 458 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 5: But I found that just trying to, yeah, just stay stake, 459 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 5: clear minded and try to show the girls that there 460 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: was still an opportunity and like it wasn't over yet, 461 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: and just try to keep the head in the game 462 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 5: and we turn that season around. So I think it 463 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 5: served me well that year, and that's just who I am. 464 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 5: Quite a chill and positive person, so I'm never going 465 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: to change it. I'm not someone to yell at the 466 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 5: girls unless unless we deserve it. But that's just not 467 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 5: my style. And yeah, I have a bit more of 468 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 5: that relaxed approach. 469 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: I know. 470 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, people talk a lot about like sometimes like the 471 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: coach or the captain that are good at like the 472 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: halftime sprais and things, and sometimes they are necessary, but 473 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: I do reckon it's underrated that ability to stay calm 474 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 4: under pressure. Yeah, I think as a leader if you can, 475 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 4: because people feed off you, like whether or not you're 476 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: saying things out loud. If you're leading people, they can 477 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: sense your body language and your energy and if you're 478 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 4: looking frazzled and stressed thea exactly, whereas if you can 479 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: be calm, they can kind of follow in your footsteps. 480 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 481 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 5: And I think that's the power of having it like 482 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 5: a captain or co captains or someone else who can 483 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 5: sort of step up in the leadership group, because yeah, 484 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 5: when that was me and I stayed calm, I could 485 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 5: have drawn someone else to come in and when we 486 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 5: need that spray, they just naturally stood up and David 487 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 5: and yeah, so it works. 488 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: Well, it's all about dynamics, right. 489 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Looking at twenty twenty two, you 490 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: gave birth to your second son, what was that process, like, 491 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: I guess going through pregnancy, in childbirth and then returning 492 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: in a professional environment compared to years earlier with your 493 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: first son. 494 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, very very different scenarios. Yeah, I had Bowden in 495 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 5: twenty two, so I missed that season and worked oh 496 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 5: sorry in twenty twenty one and then came back or 497 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 5: was it No, I had it right, the first time 498 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 5: twenty two. Came back for the twenty three season, and yeah, 499 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 5: just so much better supported. Obviously, throughout the pregnancy, I 500 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 5: still stayed involved in a coaching capacity, which was great 501 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 5: and kept me around the girls. And yeah, the sport 502 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 5: that I got from our physio team and S and 503 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: C just to keep me on I wouldn't say fit 504 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 5: for football at all, but just to keep me healthy obviously, 505 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: and then post having boats to slowly get back into 506 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 5: some training and just listening to my body. I've always 507 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 5: been quite instinctive and pretty good at listening to my body, 508 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 5: so I continued with that and did that, but just 509 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: knowing that I had that support there and I could 510 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 5: lean on them whenever I needed. And I did you 511 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 5: know when we got back into our sort of pre 512 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 5: pre season, and yeah, just in support. It's not even 513 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 5: like giving me programs and things like that. It's more 514 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: just like I was obviously very dialed into to be 515 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 5: as fit and strong as possible and get my body right. 516 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 5: But just you know, Alice and c Saint Cobbs, like 517 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 5: this day you're literally sitting on the couch and watching 518 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 5: TV all day, like your body needs to rest. I 519 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: wasn't sleeping great because I had a newborn and just 520 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 5: you know, just doing the bare minimum just to make 521 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 5: sure that. 522 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: My body could rest. 523 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 5: I'll be stressed now I can't get to the ice 524 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 5: bath or the ocean, so they're like, just relax, go 525 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 5: lie down and have a sleep, get on the couch. 526 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 5: Just stuff like that, which made me feel so much 527 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 5: more comfortable and like just took the stress off thinking 528 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 5: that I had to take every single box and just 529 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 5: allowing me to be a mom and balance the two. 530 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 5: And that came from you know, head coach John Strange 531 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 5: as well, And yeah, I think that's what made the 532 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 5: difference and took the pressure off me thinking that I 533 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 5: had to come back and be my absolute best, but 534 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 5: more just being able to work with me and make 535 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: sure I came back safely and. 536 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: My body was as well recovered as possible. 537 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome. We've had Gretel Bueta on the podcast 538 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: before the Netballer formerly Gretel to Get and she talked 539 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 4: about when she went through her first pregnancy experience, the 540 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 4: medical team and support stuff around her were amazing, but 541 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: they were almost going into uncharted territory because they didn't 542 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 4: really have anything to follow. Yeah, was that experience similar 543 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: for you with working with your S and C physiomedical team. Yeah, 544 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: around like kind of making it up as you go along. 545 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 5: Absolutely, it is because you know there's not that many 546 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 5: mums in the game, and especially like when you break 547 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 5: up into the clubs, like I think myself and San 548 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 5: Bremno are the only mums in the last few. 549 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: Years that have played at the Roosters. 550 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 5: So it's Yeah, it's definitely just a collaborative experience and 551 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 5: knowing that you know they're there and they're learning as well, 552 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: and we're doing that together. But you know that they're 553 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 5: smart people and you rely on them and you lean 554 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 5: on them when you need their expertise and to tell 555 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 5: you just mainly just to slow down and yeah, because 556 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 5: as athletes we just want to go go ham and 557 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 5: it's just them just yeah, pulling us back and making 558 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 5: sure you're smart about it. 559 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've had a couple of injuries, you're currently rehabbing 560 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: an acl reco which we'll get to in a second. 561 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: But can you put into perspective for people who may 562 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 4: not have had a baby in play elites, but what 563 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: that postpartum recovery is like because you're in rehab, right, 564 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 4: you're trying to return to being an elite athlete in 565 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 4: comparison to maybe like a soft tissue injury or your 566 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 4: shoulder rehab or something like that. 567 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's been a lot more of a 568 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 5: slow burn the ACL. 569 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: It's obviously a longer recovery. It's that nine to twelve months. 570 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 5: I know some people can push earlier, and it's amazing 571 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: to see that, but it's about patients I've learned so far. 572 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 5: I'm nine weeks post operation, and yeah, with my shoulder 573 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 5: and main class sort of able to push sean early. 574 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 5: I was, you know, I was in rehab straight after 575 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 5: my ACL, like the next day. 576 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, they try to get you going. 577 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 5: Literally the next day they come in and they measure 578 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 5: it all up and see where you're at. And my 579 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 5: miniscus has sort of stiffened me up a little bit, 580 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 5: so I think that's what's slowing down the initial part 581 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 5: of my rehab. So I'm still trying to get to 582 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 5: a straight leg and working on the flection as well. 583 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 5: So it's it's definitely taught me to be patient. I 584 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: was pretty cool in the first four weeks, but I 585 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 5: think the latter four weeks of a little frustration starting 586 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 5: to creep, just because I just want to be able 587 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 5: to walk around and you know, being a muma, want 588 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 5: to pick up my boy and be able to do 589 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 5: stuff with the family. So it's yeah, it's definitely taught 590 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 5: me patience and I'll be able to get back up 591 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 5: and running soon, I know it. So it's just making 592 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 5: sure I do the right things and don't push too early, 593 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 5: because yeah, an ACL can. 594 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Be pretty tricky if you try to push. 595 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 5: Things too early in the gym or start running too 596 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 5: early as well. 597 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 4: What's your self talk like through that process like injuries, 598 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: as you touch on that, you can go through those 599 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: seasons of like it's rough right mentally, like you get 600 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: into dark places sometimes particularly I think obviously you miss 601 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: out on playing and that's hard in itself, but I 602 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: think when it has such a huge impact on your 603 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 4: life outside of footy, like you being a mum and 604 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 4: not being able to pick up your kid, like, yeah, 605 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 4: that's hard, it is. 606 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 5: It is hard, and yeah, football aside, it just makes 607 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: you be really grateful to have good health and literally 608 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 5: just be able to drive around and do stuff with 609 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 5: your family. So it's just been telling myself that, like, 610 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: I'll get there eventually, and I'm over that hurdle now 611 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 5: I'm able to do. 612 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: All those things. So it comes around pretty quickly. 613 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: But when you're in the thick of it, it can 614 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: feel like it's sort of dragging out and you want 615 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 5: to want to get moving. 616 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, just patience. 617 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Let's take a look at the weekend. Yes, 618 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: so this going to come out on Thursday after the 619 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: Grand Final, but your team are into the Grand Final 620 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: this weekend. A bit of a preview has a group feeling. 621 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're feeling really good. It was. 622 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 5: It was nice last night with the Dallians to catch 623 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 5: up with a couple of the girls. And it's a 624 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 5: big week leading into a Grand Final. You've got all 625 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 5: your club presentations and daims and FanFest and stuff. 626 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: So I think. 627 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 5: That's good in the sense it can sort of take 628 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 5: your mind off the game, but then you also don't 629 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: want to get overwhelmed and burnt out before the weekend 630 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 5: kicks off. But I guess both teams are up for 631 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 5: having to do those do those things. 632 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: But they're feeling good. 633 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 5: I was able to get in there on Monday and 634 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 5: they did a bit of a review and flush, and 635 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 5: I think they're just taking a business as usual and 636 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 5: try not to get overawed by by the week. And 637 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 5: you know, they've been in Grand finals before, so they've 638 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 5: got that experience, which I think they've got the edge 639 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: over Cornella. It's their first Grand final, so yeah, it's 640 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 5: all it's all pretty calm and business as usual. 641 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Nice, I was that was a big win by 642 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: the Sharks. 643 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: It was. They were impressive. 644 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 5: No, Like, I'll always have a soft spot for the 645 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: Sharks being a Cronulla girl and I played all my 646 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 5: early years of footy there too, so I'm just like 647 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 5: my dream Grand Final. I wish I was out there playing, 648 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 5: But like, I'm pumped for them. I think they they 649 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 5: deserved it. They won those first six games. Yeah, they 650 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 5: were just that consistent as a team. They seemed really connected. 651 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 5: It wasn't like anyone was like amazing and standing out. 652 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 5: They just all played really well as a unit and 653 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 5: then obviously dipped a little bit in the. 654 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: Last three rounds. 655 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 5: But the way they won against the Broncos, like holding 656 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 5: them to zero points, just goes to show how they 657 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 5: started the competition. They were defensively the best and if 658 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 5: they can go into that with the Roosters, who are 659 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 5: one of the best attacking sides. 660 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah, it's going to be a really 661 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: tight one. I can't wait for it. 662 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 4: Can we go to school prediction? 663 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be close. 664 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 5: I think the Roosters are going to win by try 665 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 5: maybe twenty fourteen. 666 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: Okay, I like that. 667 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: I like that. 668 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 4: I was just coming out afterwards. 669 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: How about you? 670 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 4: You? Oh, I'm going to sow get in trouble if 671 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: I oh, because I have way too many of the 672 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: sevens girls playing for the Sharks. Yeah, okay, I actually 673 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: think you're telling different absolutely, but I'm going to go. 674 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: I think your point around Rooster's experience in the big moments, 675 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to tap Roosters. 676 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: Cool. No, we love the shack Girls, the legends. 677 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 4: One question that I've been asking you a run on 678 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 4: the podcast is what is your favorite failure? 679 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 5: Ooh, yes, Okay, that's a hard one. I feel like 680 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: favorite failure. 681 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. The whole concept is kind of like trying to 682 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 4: readjust how we view failure. And I think his athletes 683 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: were so hard on ourselves and I think it's about like, 684 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: what is something that didn't go right? 685 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 686 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: That now that you reflect on it, you're like, I'm 687 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 4: kind of I get I'm kind of glad that that 688 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: didn't go right. 689 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'm just going to talk more about like 690 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 5: probably a mindset. 691 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of times I can go into. 692 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 5: Games thinking that, like worrying too much about the outside. 693 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 5: And I distinctly remember actually the All Stars game at 694 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 5: the start of this year. We got smashed and it 695 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 5: was like, yeah, the Indigenous just towed us up. 696 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: And I remember like at the start of the game 697 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: to make Upton, who's the freak, just like ran straight 698 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: through the team, straight through me, and like I got 699 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: so down on myself and. 700 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 5: That sort of like took on a bit of a 701 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 5: flow on effect for the whole game, and. 702 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: We lost. 703 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 5: I didn't have my best game at all, and I 704 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: was really down about it. But I remember reflecting after 705 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 5: and thinking like it, yes, the Indigenous girls play. 706 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: Bad, but like my mindset there. 707 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 5: Was quite low, and I think that pulled me out 708 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 5: and made me realize, like, if I want any chance 709 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: of playing good footy, that I can't be thinking like that. 710 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 5: And I feel like this year, I mean I didn't 711 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 5: get to play any club footy but played in the 712 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 5: Origin and although we weren't successful in that, I made 713 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 5: sure that that failure, I didn't take that mindset into 714 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 5: the game. And I was really proud with how I 715 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 5: played in that Origin series, and I think I was 716 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 5: really focused on having a better mindset around it. 717 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: So I would say that like it was a failure. 718 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 5: In how I how I thought about myself and my 719 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 5: value and how what sort of athlete I presented that night. 720 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: But I just was able to turn. 721 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 5: That around and think about, hey, I can't be a 722 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 5: good player if my mind's not in it, and just 723 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 5: making sure I can flick that switech and be positive 724 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 5: and no matter what, my value is not attached to 725 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 5: me as a player, and I can come out and 726 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 5: and still be proud of whatever performance I put through. 727 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: So I think that would be mine. 728 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: I love that we didn't even touch on Origin. Actually, 729 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, Like I don't know how we haven't 730 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: touched on Origin because it's such a huge part of 731 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: what you guys do. 732 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. 733 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 4: And the push for you guys over a number of 734 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 4: years to get three games that it was like the 735 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: Men's and having the decider, what's that process been like 736 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 4: and how much of you loved playing Origin. 737 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: Oh it's it's been a long time coming. 738 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 5: We've spoken about wanting to have that three game series 739 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 5: for a while. But I was honored to be a 740 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 5: part of the first time, first ever three game series, 741 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 5: and although we lost, I just think it was a 742 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 5: great representation of women's rugby league. And yeah, the last 743 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 5: year when we had the two games, like everyone knows, 744 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 5: that was just random and like why. 745 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: To just add another game? So it was an achievement 746 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: in itself to. 747 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 5: Get to the point where we're playing in a decider 748 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 5: for a state of Origin and the fact that we 749 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 5: got that and it was as exciting as it was. 750 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 5: And you know, we broke records each and every game 751 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 5: with attendance and viewers on the Telly, So that's a 752 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 5: wind women's sport. And yeah, I was I was really 753 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 5: proud to be a part of it. 754 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 4: I felt like I almost jinxed it because I was like, 755 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: I wanted there to be a third game decider just 756 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: in the first year that it happened, you know what 757 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I so want the Blues to get up, 758 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 4: but I'm like, oh, it just like because the players 759 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 4: had been pushing for it for so long there was 760 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 4: kind of that weird yeah, being a bit torn. 761 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 5: Did you guys feel that, Yeah, I mean we would 762 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 5: have loved to steal it up Incastle. Yeah, I understand 763 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 5: from from a viewer's perspective at how excited like watching 764 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 5: the men, do you want to see your decider? So 765 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 5: I understand the girls. When you're a player, you want 766 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 5: to see things happen differently. And I think that's what 767 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 5: hurt the most that we were so close in that 768 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 5: second game and that could have won us that series. 769 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 5: But you know, Queensland credit to them, like they stuck 770 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 5: in there and they were also especially in those last 771 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 5: two games. And yeah, that last one in Townsville, that's 772 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 5: one that I'll never forget. Our first ever Origin decider 773 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 5: was pretty cool. 774 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing. Who has had the biggest impact on you 775 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: as a person. 776 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Oh so many people. 777 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 5: I think my parents have. That's a bit of a 778 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 5: cheesy answer, but I'm here for it. I just think 779 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 5: that they've literally been my biggest supporters for my whole life. 780 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 5: When it comes from having the privilege to play every 781 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 5: sport and get driven around by them as a young one, 782 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 5: to continue to support me through my journey as an 783 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 5: athlete and as a parent myself, and I've relied heavily 784 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 5: on you know them, and they've helped me so much 785 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 5: with my kids so that I've been able to go 786 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 5: off and train and play and they've just been there 787 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: from the very beginning. And then obviously my husband too. 788 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 5: I've got to give him a shout out because he's 789 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 5: He's a super dad that holds it down while I'm 790 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 5: running off to camps and trainings and stuff too. 791 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: So I'm a big family girl. 792 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 5: And yeah, definitely my parents and my husband have had 793 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 5: the biggest impact on me. 794 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 4: Love that. To finish us off, you kind of touched 795 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: early around your role at the Dallims last night around 796 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 4: kind of building yourself to set yourself up for post 797 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 4: footy career. Are there other avenues that you're going down 798 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 4: that path as well? 799 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love the coaching space. I own a business 800 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: with Yanna Takarangi. She's my best mate and we run 801 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 5: sports programs and do some fun stuff. We're going to 802 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 5: the Cooker Alan's early next year to do some stuff 803 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 5: over there. She's from Oh she was born here, but 804 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 5: she has Good Island. 805 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: Heritage, so that's really close to her. Heart and I 806 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: love going there. 807 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 5: It's a holiday, but we get to go and share 808 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 5: a really special experience with the kids that don't get 809 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 5: much over there and their rugby league. 810 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: Mad They love it. So I love that space. 811 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 5: I love the skill development side of things. I do 812 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 5: some coaching out of school for the women's rugby league program, 813 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 5: so I'd love to jump into that space. It scares 814 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 5: me a little bit, like the thought of being a 815 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 5: head coach would come with a lot of pressure, but 816 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 5: I love seeing that there's more women sort of taking 817 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 5: on those roles and I've sort of like had a 818 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 5: bit of a pathway that's I'm getting, not. 819 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: Pushed put towards. I've still got a few years. 820 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 5: Of playing in me, but I can see a bit 821 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 5: of a pathway there, and I'd love to get my 822 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 5: skin in the gate in the game a bit more 823 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 5: before I go on into any sort of head role coach. 824 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 5: But between media and that coaching space, I think they're 825 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 5: the things that I'm most passionate about. 826 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing like that. Thank you so much again with 827 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 4: your time today. I've absolutely loved having a chat. 828 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: Thanks Chloe, Thanks for having. 829 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 4: Me, Thanks so much for listening. 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