Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen
Speaker 1: live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 2: Good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Ben Radio work
Speaker 2: Our Windows down, that's my world, Rison the dust only
Speaker 2: good labs all down.
Speaker 3: I've done much, but yeah, I know our big get
Speaker 3: and what I want.
Speaker 4: It don't matter where.
Speaker 1: This is the pickup. Happy Tuesday, everyone, It's the Pickup
Speaker 1: with Britt Hockeley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 5: Laura, I, this might be embarrassing that I'm about to
Speaker 5: admit that I just learned something new.
Speaker 1: You know that everything's opped in when you are broadcasting
Speaker 1: lab on radio.
Speaker 5: Well, no, I accidentally discovered something on an app that
Speaker 5: we all use every single day, and I don't know
Speaker 5: if I'm late to the party. So on Instagram, when
Speaker 5: you are on a reel, like when you're watching a reel,
Speaker 5: did you guys know that you can play it at
Speaker 5: two three four speed?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't know that. Yes, I didn't know. It's fine.
Speaker 1: Do you know what else I learned recently? It was
Speaker 1: because of Sophie Monks. She posted a reel about this.
Speaker 1: If you're watching a reel and then you swipe to
Speaker 1: the left or to the right. I can't remember what
Speaker 1: way it is now, it's top my head. It takes
Speaker 1: you to the page of the reel that you're watching,
Speaker 1: so it's a shortcut. Well, Sophie Monk's mind was blown
Speaker 1: and I was right there with her.
Speaker 5: Listen to this, Laura, I'll watching a reel and you
Speaker 5: just hold your finger down on the edge either side,
Speaker 5: on the left or the right. It will play through
Speaker 5: the reel at like two three speed.
Speaker 1: Doesn't fast forward? Doesn't it just show how minimal our
Speaker 1: attention spans are that now we need to fush all
Speaker 1: the second Literally, reels don't go for longer than a
Speaker 1: minute usually, and we need to rush through them.
Speaker 4: I just wonder how you can.
Speaker 5: Be using something so often and not know anyway it's irrelevant,
Speaker 5: we're not.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you do when you listen
Speaker 1: to podcasts, because obviously we love a podcast here, you know,
Speaker 1: a pickup. Do you listen to them on normal speed
Speaker 1: or do you listen to them fast forwarded?
Speaker 4: Interesting? I have two answers. If it's a podcast that I.
Speaker 5: I annuinely like to listen to, like that I listen
Speaker 5: to weekly, I listen to it always at normal speed,
Speaker 5: but I always listen on to one point twenty five
Speaker 5: or one point five when I'm doing it for research
Speaker 5: on somebody so interesting. Yeah, I don't care about the
Speaker 5: tone or inflection. I'm getting information. But with my favorite people,
Speaker 5: I want to listen to the way that they interact.
Speaker 1: I listen to everything on minimum one point five, usually two,
Speaker 1: every single thing. Yeah, my brain is probably a chaoic
Speaker 1: place to be in.
Speaker 5: Well, Laura, it is that time of year again where
Speaker 5: Australia has the version of the oscars. It is Gold
Speaker 5: Loging nomination time. The nominations have come out and do
Speaker 5: you know what, the women are absolutely cleaning up. There's
Speaker 5: only one bloke. I think Hamish Blake is not surprising.
Speaker 5: I know it's I mean, he's going to be in
Speaker 5: literally dying.
Speaker 1: There's going to be one male who makes it into
Speaker 1: the loading nomination who direct. It's going to be Hamish Blake.
Speaker 4: But there's so many incredible women that have been nominated.
Speaker 5: But one I'm very excited about TV Legend, TV veteran.
Speaker 4: I was in the jungle with her.
Speaker 5: She is hosted I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of
Speaker 5: Here eleven times. She has been nominated for a Gold
Speaker 5: Logie four times and for some reason is yet to win.
Speaker 5: We're going to try and change that. Julia Morris, Welcome
Speaker 5: to the show.
Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't be more thrilled to be here with you.
Speaker 3: To glorious Humans, Julia.
Speaker 1: We are hard on the campaign trail for you this year.
Speaker 1: We are so behind you. I thought you were a
Speaker 1: shoeing last year. But this year, it is twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: It is the year of Julia Morris.
Speaker 3: Surely it's the year of the old Miles got to
Speaker 3: get involved.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Everyone's in saying, what's the campaigning going to be? Like?
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I can barely like feed compass for
Speaker 3: the pick up and drop off. I do not know
Speaker 3: that I'm up the campaigning. You feel like a knucklehead campaigning.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh, a friend of mine and I
Speaker 3: just as a coincidentally, we're sort of winging about how
Speaker 3: come we don't you know? I was winging she's not
Speaker 3: in television. I was like, I com I keep sort
Speaker 3: of missing out on bits and pieces. I know I
Speaker 3: am hosting one of the biggest shows in the country,
Speaker 3: so it seems a bit dis in genuous, but I'm
Speaker 3: always you know, looking for like, what's the next thing.
Speaker 1: Going to be?
Speaker 3: How do I broaden out, you know, just to earn
Speaker 3: money to pay the organ We all know as a
Speaker 3: matter of time, everybody loves the sound of slapping. When
Speaker 3: I released the Double d's it sounds like you're at Octoberfest.
Speaker 3: And that's another story altogether. I have been like a
Speaker 3: complete maniac. So the thought of now going into some
Speaker 3: weird self promotion thing, my maid and I I said
Speaker 3: to her, right, let's make a chat show in the backyard.
Speaker 3: I said, My backyard's epic. Let's make a chat show.
Speaker 3: The first episode, it's literally it's mostly out of the
Speaker 3: back of our heads. Oh my god, it's so funny.
Speaker 3: It just accidentally turned into a little mini internet sitcom
Speaker 3: and it's just a couple of people who have no
Speaker 3: idea what they're doing, and it's beyond hilarious. We've never
Speaker 3: been doing parkour.
Speaker 4: Do you talk in my language?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: I do sporadic park or to.
Speaker 1: Julia, sorry, do we think that this is gonna she
Speaker 1: the dial on the votes? Are you just having a
Speaker 1: good time in between? Like, well, we've got to get
Speaker 1: the votes as well, Dental, Well, the thing is I thought, well,
Speaker 1: what will end up happening is if my audience.
Speaker 3: That followed me on all my bits and pieces are
Speaker 3: chill with me, not ramming the loads down their throats.
Speaker 3: And so I'm hoping just the fact that I have
Speaker 3: put some effort into making something while a massive life
Speaker 3: is swirling around us all at all times.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon it's going to be the biggest competition
Speaker 1: this year? I mean, do you look at that and
Speaker 1: figure sit there going, oh, they did this and they
Speaker 1: did that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely deep down because you're like, you know,
Speaker 3: you would love to take it. I would love to
Speaker 3: be in history as one of those names. It is
Speaker 3: a tremendous honor. I was talking to someone recently who
Speaker 3: was in House Husbands with me, one of the ladies,
Speaker 3: and we were saying, did you think we'd still be
Speaker 3: hustling at this age?
Speaker 4: It doesn't end.
Speaker 3: It's no seeing as of other industries have moved on
Speaker 3: to either be CEO or CSO or special you know whatever,
Speaker 3: FO and so. You know, but in the end came
Speaker 3: in industry everybody huzzling husy.
Speaker 4: You know what, I think. I think you've got a
Speaker 4: I think you've got a.
Speaker 5: Little secret weapon right at your disposal. We've seen Robert
Speaker 5: Irwin take his shirt off.
Speaker 1: We've seen him.
Speaker 4: Everyone loves him. He's your partner in crime.
Speaker 5: Get him amongst it, Like, I don't think it's we
Speaker 5: think ed, borrow and plead. And if that means stealing
Speaker 5: your shirt to get him on your campaign trail again,
Speaker 5: I think you've got to do it.
Speaker 3: I had to start processing at the beginning of his
Speaker 3: sentence because I was just like, oh, do I need
Speaker 3: to get out of the Andies? Hang on, get the snake.
Speaker 3: I thought I'd seen enough snake, so I've got no
Speaker 3: business with them. And yeah, maybe I'm in the Andes
Speaker 3: in the front yard on the astro tur you could.
Speaker 1: Do it together. We don't discriminate.
Speaker 4: And actually, Sonya, Sonya's up for a LOGI as well.
Speaker 4: It's you're up against some crid.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. That was the other great pleasure about it yesterday.
Speaker 3: And when you're saying, like you do, do you eye
Speaker 3: up the competition, I mean we're all lapy. He was six,
Speaker 3: we've been nominated. One man takes it. Also, HAMI just like,
Speaker 3: please please nobody vote for me. And I was like, mate,
Speaker 3: you know, get your game on. None of us want
Speaker 3: to hand it to us. And let me tell you,
Speaker 3: every single person on that stage, if they talk it,
Speaker 3: you go worthy winner though.
Speaker 1: Ye yes, Julia, we are and so so have your
Speaker 1: back on this. We can't wait to see you up
Speaker 1: there on stage.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Well, let me tell you the speech
Speaker 3: would be unbridled because I've got a feeling the vibebanks
Speaker 3: would have worn off like hours before, so I would
Speaker 3: be and so would the age.
Speaker 4: I get very scared of.
Speaker 3: You know, around that five to eleven at night, You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's mummy switching hour, that's.
Speaker 1: Adre is to vote just for that, to see it,
Speaker 1: I'll be like.
Speaker 3: Level, yeah, I've even told my haters. I'm like, from
Speaker 3: what I've observed with the Gold Logi, you sort of
Speaker 3: then done disappeared not long after that. So you're like, well,
Speaker 3: here's the thing. If you hate me, you can make
Speaker 3: me go away by giving me this goal logan.
Speaker 1: There's both sides. You can vote. Now, go and vote
Speaker 1: for Julia Morris to win the Gold Logi at the
Speaker 1: TV Week logos. Everyone, it's a tvweek loogis dot com
Speaker 1: dot a you. I was served something the other day,
Speaker 1: now and I say this because my Instagram social media
Speaker 1: algorithm is one hundred percent pregnancy and baby related.
Speaker 4: At the moment, I thought, you don't say serve something
Speaker 4: like you at a restaurant, like someone.
Speaker 1: Ser service divorce papers. Actually I did not get served
Speaker 1: tovorce papers. But it is what we're talking about. It's
Speaker 1: a new theory and there was an article around it,
Speaker 1: and it's called second child divorce syndrome. Now it's all
Speaker 1: around when as a couple you go from having one
Speaker 1: kids to two kids and the additional stress that that
Speaker 1: puts on your relationship with your partner. I mean, when
Speaker 1: I reflect back on when we brought Lola into the world,
Speaker 1: and yes it was COVID and she was like we
Speaker 1: had our kids really close together. I was so deeply
Speaker 1: unprepared for how much going from one to two that
Speaker 1: transition was going to be so so hard for me.
Speaker 1: And I think because Matt and I had already had
Speaker 1: one kid and having MALEI she was.
Speaker 4: She was an easy child.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What I realized now is that we had like
Speaker 1: a unicorn baby. She slept well, she ate well, she
Speaker 1: was a relatively easy baby, and it made us feel
Speaker 1: so cocky and secure that we were like Oh my god,
Speaker 1: We've got this parenting thing down, Cake, Let's have a
Speaker 1: second one. And so we had Lola really shortly afterwards.
Speaker 1: They're only about nineteen twenty months apart. And going from
Speaker 1: one to two was by far the hardest transition that
Speaker 1: I've ever made in my adult life in any way
Speaker 1: and any capacity. I mean when I think about work
Speaker 1: transitions or starting new jobs, or starting new relationships or
Speaker 1: going through breakups, one to two kids absolutely knocked me sideways.
Speaker 1: And it was trying to juggle two babies at two
Speaker 1: different schedules. It was the sleep. It's also the pressure
Speaker 1: it puts in your relationship because you no longer have
Speaker 1: time for relationship in the same capacity that you did earlier.
Speaker 5: And on top of that, Lola wasn't necessarily the easiest baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was a really tricky baby and didn't sleep well,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of crying and I felt
Speaker 1: constantly touched out and exhausted because she would only sleep
Speaker 1: on me. So I had to have her in a carrier,
Speaker 1: sitting up in bed with two pillows prop behind me.
Speaker 1: And that's how I slept for six weeks, just sitting
Speaker 1: upright in my bed and whenever I have friends who
Speaker 1: are talking about having kids or they're in that sort
Speaker 1: of like the absolute trenches of the early years of parenting.
Speaker 1: I always say, don't make any decisions about your relationship
Speaker 1: when you're in those trenches, because something that feels completely permanent,
Speaker 1: like little being in that phase of little kids, when
Speaker 1: it's all consuming and how hard it can be on
Speaker 1: your relationship. Sometimes people make very permanent decisions around a
Speaker 1: time that is not permanent. And I say that because
Speaker 1: now that our kids are five years and four years,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I finally have a handle
Speaker 1: on it and it's so much easier, and Matt and
Speaker 1: I have so much more time for each other and.
Speaker 4: Where you decide to have a third one, I were
Speaker 4: in such.
Speaker 1: A better state. But I think because now I understand
Speaker 1: how short lived that time is, that absolute pressure cooker
Speaker 1: of having little kids, is that it makes me feel
Speaker 1: a little bit better about the fact that, like, we're
Speaker 1: all on the same page all right, eighteen months, it's
Speaker 1: going to be really, really hard, and then we're going
Speaker 1: to slowly come out and like come up for air again,
Speaker 1: and we're just kind of I think we're a little
Speaker 1: bit more prepared for the impact it's going to have
Speaker 1: this time, yeah, yeah, rather than taking it and thinking
Speaker 1: it's doomsday.
Speaker 4: But what's the theory.
Speaker 1: Well, the theory is around how a lot of relationships
Speaker 1: break down in that period of going from one to
Speaker 1: two kids, and how it has like some people feel
Speaker 1: as though it has this irreparable effect on their relationship
Speaker 1: that they can't get over.
Speaker 4: To be fair, I mean, I remember talking to my
Speaker 4: parents about this.
Speaker 5: My mum and dad had been married nearly fifty years
Speaker 5: and they've had four kids and we're all really close.
Speaker 4: I remember them saying the same thing.
Speaker 5: It's like, you feel like you're never going to get
Speaker 5: out of it, and you feel like you're never going
Speaker 5: to be able to afford things again, You're never gonna
Speaker 5: have time for each other again, you never whatever, you're
Speaker 5: going to sleep properly again, And all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: the light lifts and then you're like, oh, Okay, the
Speaker 5: best years of my life were actually going to come
Speaker 5: after this because we stuck it through together and didn't
Speaker 5: make those decisions when you're in the depths of despair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that maybe there's a bit of
Speaker 1: a misconception, and I know everyone's parenting experience is different.
Speaker 1: But I do think that there's a bit of a
Speaker 1: misconception they're going from nothing to one is the hardest
Speaker 1: transition because you go from not knowing what it's like
Speaker 1: to having kids to having a baby that you've got
Speaker 1: to care for. But I think for a lot of
Speaker 1: people that's actually the going from one kid to two kids.
Speaker 1: That's the hardest transition because you think you're prepared, you
Speaker 1: think you have it down pat and actually it really
Speaker 1: I mean, at least for us, and if anyone else
Speaker 1: has experienced it, it completely knocked us sideways. And so
Speaker 1: I do feel as though I'm going into number three
Speaker 1: a little bit more realistic. So do you think about
Speaker 1: how hard it's going to be.
Speaker 5: Would you think number three is going to be easier
Speaker 5: because you like, do you think it's the opposite, like
Speaker 5: two's harder than trees easier because the kid's older, You've
Speaker 5: done it, you know it inside out.
Speaker 1: I am not going to allow myself to lull myself
Speaker 1: into the false like I'm.
Speaker 4: Not having any defenses, Laura.
Speaker 1: I will not have the security so I have I've
Speaker 1: if anything, I think I've over prepared myself for how
Speaker 1: hard it's going to be that. I'm hoping I'll be
Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised or at least it will meet my expectations.
Speaker 4: That's it have the bar so long on the ground.
Speaker 4: There's only one way, so we make it sound terrible.
Speaker 1: Being a mom is amazing, it really is. That's why
Speaker 1: we all go back and do it again.
Speaker 5: So, Laura, on the weekend, I tried to do what
Speaker 5: I think was a really good deed, well for myself
Speaker 5: and for my sister. But what I did was I
Speaker 5: went through all my cupboards and cleaned everything out. You
Speaker 5: know where you have this like, I just had too
Speaker 5: much stuff that I've accumulated for years. I could open
Speaker 5: my wardrobe and stuff from fifteen years ago would tumble
Speaker 5: out and almost suffocate me.
Speaker 1: I have seen your wardrobe, brit and one thing like, yes,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of clothes, But the thing is
Speaker 1: is you also don't throw anything away, so you keep
Speaker 1: all of your clothes, like you have multiple wardrobes. But
Speaker 1: I think because most of it's stuff that you'll keep
Speaker 1: on rotation, right.
Speaker 5: Yes I do. I'm a real sucker for I'm like
Speaker 5: a horde of clothes. Like some of my favorite pieces
Speaker 5: of clothing are from fifteen years ago, so I don't
Speaker 5: necessarily just keep them.
Speaker 4: I just love I don't.
Speaker 1: Fit anything from fifteen years ago where we are yellow.
Speaker 1: And I kind of have a rule now because my
Speaker 1: wardrobes one a time was very similar. But I have
Speaker 1: a rule that if I haven't worn it in a year,
Speaker 1: it goes. I give it away to someone, or I
Speaker 1: give it to Salvos. But I can't. I can't keep that.
Speaker 5: When he closes my house every like I don't know,
Speaker 5: six to eight months, I do clean out, and I
Speaker 5: send everything to the Salvos, or I give it to
Speaker 5: my sister or a friend to go through.
Speaker 4: If it's like good quality stuff. So I went through.
Speaker 5: I'd been going through it for probably the last four
Speaker 5: months and slowly putting things into bags because I knew
Speaker 5: my sister was going to move back from overseas. I
Speaker 5: always let her go through and pick stuff and then
Speaker 5: I take it to a charity store. And so I'd
Speaker 5: been accumulating these bags, and one was just bin like
Speaker 5: stuff that was just so far gone, moths of eaten
Speaker 5: it or whatever.
Speaker 4: Like I'm talking the dregs of my wardrobe.
Speaker 1: You're like, I would be embarrassed to give this to someone.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Then I had the stuff that my sister could go
Speaker 5: through that was like calling you I would fit out.
Speaker 4: Then I had the bag that was just going.
Speaker 5: Straight to the chain win anyway, So I handed off
Speaker 5: to my sister and she went back to the Gold
Speaker 5: Coast because she doesn't live near me and I don't
Speaker 5: hear from about it, and I was like really excited
Speaker 5: because I was giving her really quality stuff. Anyway, So
Speaker 5: I bring it up and I said to her, did
Speaker 5: you go through the bag? And she's like, yeah, I did.
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, did you keep anything? Like did
Speaker 5: you like it or like you're welcome? She's like no,
Speaker 5: I think you would be nice.
Speaker 4: She's like no, Brittany, it was disgusting. When I threw
Speaker 4: it out. I was like, I was like, you didn't
Speaker 4: keep one thing nothing. She's like, no, nothing, Why would I?
Speaker 1: And I was so confused.
Speaker 4: I was like, there's some of my best pieces and
Speaker 4: she was like what.
Speaker 5: It turns out I gave her a bag of like
Speaker 5: the oldest.
Speaker 4: Undies that you've ever seen, like undies.
Speaker 5: That I've worn that have holes in them, that have
Speaker 5: like these are undies that have been through it.
Speaker 4: I gave her stuff with moth holes in it.
Speaker 5: I gave her the bag that was supposed to go
Speaker 5: straight to the bin, not even a bag that could
Speaker 5: go to a charity, not nothing.
Speaker 4: This is like you'd burn this bag.
Speaker 1: And that's what she thought I gifted her. It's the
Speaker 1: bag of pos where you know they've lived alive, they
Speaker 1: have lived a century of life.
Speaker 4: I've seen some stuff and I was mortified.
Speaker 1: So what happened to the bag that she was meant
Speaker 1: to get? Did you actually take that one to the
Speaker 1: salvosn that's so annoying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's great. There's really great subber videos.
Speaker 5: But I was mortified to think that I gave my
Speaker 5: sister a bag of like dirty undies. I don't want
Speaker 5: to say it on radio, but I was like, old
Speaker 5: use undies because I keep bundies for like I.
Speaker 4: Know you do too, Laura, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Twenty years. I keep underwear until it no longer has
Speaker 1: an elastic, which is coming really handy because I now
Speaker 1: my butt's about twice the size it used to be
Speaker 1: and all those undies hit me again?
Speaker 4: Do you like how I'm trying to whisper it like
Speaker 4: Australia can't hear it?
Speaker 1: If I whisper it.
Speaker 4: I was like, I gave her a bag of dirty undies,
Speaker 4: like you're still see it.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a lesson for everyone, though.
Speaker 1: If you're going to do a clean out, you got
Speaker 1: to label stuff. It's sem like if you're moving house.
Speaker 1: Because I once maybe about eight months ago, he actually
Speaker 1: maybe longer. No one cares I had.
Speaker 4: Too bad time is irrelevant.
Speaker 1: I had one bag to go to the dry cleaners
Speaker 1: and one bag to go to the Savots. Both bags
Speaker 1: have been kicking around the back of my car, the boot,
Speaker 1: the garage like they'd just been moved from different areas
Speaker 1: because I kept on thinking I'll take it eventually. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I mentioned to Matt, I was like, oh, there's a
Speaker 1: bag in the back of my car that needs to
Speaker 1: go the Salvos. Didn't tell him that there was one
Speaker 1: that was supposed to go to the dry cleaners, and
Speaker 1: everything ended up at the Savos, So that was really
Speaker 1: disappointing for me. Let's alert everyone, do not go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's also some things that the owner didn't want to
Speaker 1: part with as well, So off you go, guys. Check
Speaker 1: it out.