1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: But joining me in the studio right now is the 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: acting Assistant Commissioner for the Greater Darwin Region, Matt Holland b. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Good morning to. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 3: You, Yeah, Good morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners. 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time this morning. 6 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Now we might start with this situation in Central Australia 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: where we know that the Northern Territory Independent politician Robin 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Lamley has forced police to release details of a rape investigation. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: That is what's being reported by the Northern Territory News now. 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: The Independent member for Aralun released a statement to the 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: media yesterday reflecting the deep concern of Central Australian residents 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: worried at the information void in relation to two incidents 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: over the past ten days. So one involved an alleged 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: sexual assault in Aralun on December four, which police announced 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: in a media release that day. I understand that there 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: has now been an arrest and charges expected to be 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: laid in relation to that one. The second allegedly involved 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: the rape of a young child in Tenant Creek in 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: recent days, She says, I'm informed the child was transferred 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: to Alas Springs Hospital for treatment. Are the police investigating 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: an incident in tenant Craig. 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 4: Look, Katie, thank you for those questions. I will say 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 4: I was in La Springs at the time of the 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: sexual assault in Aralon. I can say that a twenty 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: eight the old man has been arrested and he will 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: be charged with sexual assault without consent, burglary and other offenses. 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: We did release that at the. 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Time of the crime and there's been a significant investigation 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: by the La Springs detectives since that time, which has 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 4: culminated in the arrest of the offender, which is the 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: alleged defender. So very good police work, and you know, 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: there was no secrets there. We released it on the 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: day called for witnesses and as usual, we went went 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: to great lengths to identify the offender and an arrest 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: has been mate. So it's a positive out you know, 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: there's still a victim involved. Yeah, but it's a good 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 4: outcome that this person's been identified and arrested. 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: And I did speak to the commander of the region 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: last week and I had asked at that time, was 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: at a situation though where we still had an offender, 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, this person that was on the loose after 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: sexually assaulting someone in their home in the morning, so 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: like at a time of day where most people would 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: expect that they could be safe in their homes. 45 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: And I know the. 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: Police were working really hard to apprehend that person, which 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: they have now done. But it does beg the question, 48 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, our police being as upfront about some of 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: these incidents as they should be. 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: Look, Katie, absolutely we you know, as I say, we 51 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: were released did a meta release on the day. We 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: don't usually ordinarily do up daily updates on an incident 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: such as that. But the positive is the good work 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: of the detectives has culminated in the rest of a suspect. 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Acting Assistant Commissioner, can you tell us what the situation 56 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: is in tenant Craig. 57 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: Look, Katie, I'm not fully across that one. What I 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: can say is the child is seven years of age. 59 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: Our logical first priority is the safety of the child. 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: The logical second priority is the welfare, the medical welfare 61 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 4: of the child, and the third step is what happened. 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: And we're at the third step of what happened and 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: what evidence do we have, And too, it's just premature 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: to make a ready release on something that we don't 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: know what happened. So that's where we're out at this stage, 66 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: bearing in mind that our primary witness is a seven 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: year old child and her welfare and safety is paramount. 68 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: But can I take that as confirmation that a seven 69 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: year old child was sexually assaulted? 70 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: Look, you can take it as confirmation that there is 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: an investigation, and I can't take it any further than 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: that at the stage. 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: Is there any threat here though to other members of 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: the public, because that's I suppose the big thing that 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: the public wants to know when we hear of incidents 76 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: like this. We want to make sure that no other 77 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: child in that community is going to be put in 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: harm's way. 79 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 80 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: Look, as I said before, Katie, I'm not fully across 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: this one. It's an emerging issue. But you know, if 82 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: there was an identified threat today, there would be a 83 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 4: meta release about that. But again, just you know, I'll 84 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: say it again that we're still in the what happened 85 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: stage in terms of this particular investigation. 86 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: So you know, there are I suppose claims this morning, 87 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: and there are these accusations being thrown around that the 88 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police are withholding information from the public that 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: you guys are not coming forward and telling the public 90 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: what's going on. I suppose you know, some some saying 91 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: for fear of it, you know, of the crime crisis 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: seeming worse, seeming you know, terrible. 93 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, Look, what I can say is we receive 94 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 4: about thirty five calls a month. We respond to hundreds 95 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: of incidents per day, and we clearly can't do a 96 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: media release on every single incident that we respond to. 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: We certainly do when there's a public safety issue or 98 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: whether we're when we're calling for assistance or public interest 99 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: stories that that quite rightly should be released to the media. 100 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: And you know, the timing of those releases is quite 101 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: important as well, for you know, the welfare of victims 102 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: and witnesses and families. And yeah, so we you know, 103 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: we do our best, but we're not doing thirty five 104 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: thousand media releases a month. 105 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: Look, you know, I think it goes without saying that. 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: I have a lot of support for the Northern Territory Police. 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: I've worked in that media unit. I know how difficult 109 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: and how busy it can be. But there, you know, 110 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: there are some members of the public who feel as 111 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: though there's information which should be released which is not 112 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: being released. 113 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: What would you say to those members of the public. 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: Look, we release what we think should be released. You know, 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: some people may have a different view on that, but again, 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: it's about public safety. It's about calling for witnesses and support, 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: and it's about keeping the public informed of what they 118 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: reasonably should know about. 119 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: All right, I am going to move along acting Assistant Commissioner, 120 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: because there is a lot going on at the moment, 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: and we know that the first couple of days of 122 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: the reduced hours of alcohol being able to be purchas 123 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: from bottle shops, its moved from ten am until twelve noon. 124 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: From a policing perspective, how has that gone over the 125 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: last couple of days. 126 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: Look, Katie, it's still for fairly early days. I might 127 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: just keep my powder dryer. In terms of expressing an 128 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: opinion on it, what I can say is I don't 129 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: remember the last time I ever bought alcohol at ten 130 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: am in the morning on a weekday. 131 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: So, you know, and I get it. 132 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: It does affect a few people, but I think for 133 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: you know, the vast majority, it has a minimal impact. 134 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: But it does allow us to concentrate our forces a 135 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: little bit better in terms of targeting problem drinkers and 136 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: problem hotspots. So from a policing perspective, it does make 137 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: simple as not the right word, but it does make 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: it give us a greater ability to concentrate our forces 139 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: and efforts on where the problems really are. 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: One of those issues that we have seen over the 141 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: last well you know, quite some time, is incidents with 142 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: young people, with youths doing the wrong thing. The Northern 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: Territory Government announced on Friday this corresponder model in both 144 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: Alice Springs and Darwin. 145 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: From a policing perspective, how's it going to work? 146 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: Look, I can. 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: Say I was in l Springs and met with Territory 148 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: Families about the operation of it. 149 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: It gives the. 150 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: An immediate recourse to a Territory Families practitioner. So in 151 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: the past, where we'd run around trying to find a 152 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: home address for a youth who was perhaps in need 153 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: of a level of care, we will now make one 154 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: effort to deliver that person to a safe place. If 155 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: there's not an immediate safe place for that child, there 156 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: will be Territory Families people working with us that we 157 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: can We've got immediate recourse too in the past, if 158 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: you find a child in need of care at two 159 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: or three in the morning, it would take hours for 160 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: a practitioner to become available. So this is good for 161 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: us in terms of caring for children that need. 162 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: Care and freeing up your resources. Assume. 163 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, how long could you in some cases be 164 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: sort of tied up, you know, trying to help those kids. 165 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: Oh look, you know, in the past, as I say, 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: we would have to bring the on call team who 167 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: would consider the issue, and you know, then somebody have 168 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: to wake somebody up, and then they have to go 169 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: to the office, and then they have to come to 170 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: the police station. So you know, naturally it took a 171 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: quite quite a consumer good period of time. But this 172 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: this is an advantage in terms of an immediate recourse 173 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: to a practitioner, and then territory families can follow up 174 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: with the child and the family to make sure that 175 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: they have a safe place to live and a continuing 176 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: safe place to live, because you know, the last thing 177 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 4: we want to do is drop a child to a 178 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: bunch of drugs and in an unsafe environment. 179 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: So it's a good thing. 180 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I agree, and I hope it works. I 181 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: do hope that it means that the police resources are 182 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: freed up a little bit and that you're able to 183 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: concentrate on those, you know, all those other issues that 184 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: I know you guys are jugling. 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, it is a trial. It's there for 186 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: a couple of months. Will assess, as will Territory families 187 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: and consider our positions after that. But as I say, 188 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's worthy of a trial. 189 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 4: And again it's about helping young children and to you know, 190 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: and secondarily helping the family to look after their children. 191 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: Probably. 192 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: Hey, there's been quite a few different things that the 193 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police have had to go out to over 194 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: the last couple of days. I mean there always is, 195 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: But the Northern Territory Police have charged a man after 196 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: a firearm incident in Humpty Doo last week. So at 197 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: around seven twenty on Friday, the police received reports that 198 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: a fifty two year old man had driven to a 199 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: property in Humpty do produced a rifle and threatened to residents. 200 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct, Katie. We will then allege that he 201 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: discharged his firearm and killed two dogs and then left 202 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: the scene. He surrendered to police a short time later 203 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: and he's been charged. The firearm's been recovered and we 204 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: understand that they were neighbors, so it is before the court, 205 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 4: so I'm not going to delve into what ifs. 206 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: And maybe well, look, you know, that one just seems 207 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: so bizarre to me. I mean the fact that then 208 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: allegedly this person's then shot those two dogs. It seems 209 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: like crazy stuff. But hey, another one. So this one 210 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: was actually over the course of the weekend. Around one 211 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: pm on Saturday, police received reports at a seventy three 212 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: year old man was allegedly threatened by a group of 213 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: offenders with blunt weapons while he was reversing his toy 214 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: I to Highlucks on a property in Adelaide River. 215 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct, Hatie. 216 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: The seventy three year old man was threatened by a 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: group with armed with crowbars and hammers and forcibly removed 218 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: from his vehicle. They then stole his vehicle and drove 219 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 4: Eventually they were located in Palmerston and five youths and 220 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: three adults were arrested. So you know, again, seventy three 221 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: year old victim, very very sad. It's horrible, but from 222 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 4: a policing perspective, we solved it quickly and have taken 223 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 4: eight people into custody. 224 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: They do they remain in custody. Do you know at 225 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: this point? 226 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: Not sure? Not sure? 227 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: And it does sound I mean that sounds like a 228 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: pretty violent and frightening situation for that seventy. 229 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: Three year old block. Look, is it like a group. 230 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: Do we know if it's a group from a community 231 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: or do we know what the situation. 232 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: Was with them? 233 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it is a group for a community. And 234 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 4: again I think, you know, if we concentrate on the 235 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: victim of the crime, the seventy three year old man, 236 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 4: it'd be disturbing for anyone. But you know, doing that 237 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: to a seventy three year old man is just beyond comprehension. 238 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so low. 239 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: And it follows on from last week where we'd spoken 240 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people have heard this 241 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: story of Poppy Politis's mum who'd been knocked to the 242 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: ground and her bag stolen from her a nightcliff. I mean, 243 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: this kind of crime that we see against people that 244 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: are more senior, I just think is disgraceful. 245 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 246 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 4: Look, I met with Poppy this morning and we had 247 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: a good conversation and you know, she's obviously distressed, and 248 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: when you know, police acted quickly and we're able to 249 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 4: to apprehend a nine year old female offender for for 250 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: that incident, and you know, heart goes out to Poppy 251 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: and her family and her mum, particularly at this time, 252 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: you know, just before Christmas is supposed to be the 253 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 4: festive season. And yeah, but the you know one off 254 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 4: incidents that that gain a lot of community traction. 255 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: You know, they do have an influence on people's perceptions 256 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: of crime. 257 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: So so you don't reckon we've got a problem where 258 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: our seniors aren't safe, for where our seniors need to 259 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: be a bit more careful when they're heading out. 260 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 4: Look, you know these are two incidents there where seniors 261 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: were targeted. And again Dale was like any other city 262 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 4: where you know, you just take basic safety precautions. In 263 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 4: terms of the the lady at Nightcliffe, she didn't do 264 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: anything wrong. She was just in the wrong place at 265 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: the wrong time, which you know, it's not right and 266 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: it's a crime what happened to her. 267 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, just it's horrible. 268 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it is horrible. It's horrible that this kind 269 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: of thing goes on in our community. And I know 270 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: that the police are then there at the pointy end, 271 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, it is it's horrible and Look, I've got 272 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: plenty of opinions on that, but I won't talk about 273 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: them right now. I do want to ask you though, 274 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: as we head into to Christmas, into the Christmas break, well, firstly, 275 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: we know in North Queensland at the moment this cyclone 276 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: is looming. We're all waiting to see what it might 277 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: potentially mean for us here in the Northern Territory. Is 278 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: it something that the police are keeping an eye on. 279 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, we're you know, we're in daily contact with 280 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: a Bureau of Meteorology. Our latest advice is that the 281 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: cyclone is likely to move into the golf carpenteria, not 282 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: in necess necessarily as a cyclone, but the weather system 283 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: will move into golf of carpenteria. There's a moderate twenty 284 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: five to thirty five percent chance it may redevelop into 285 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: a cyclone in the golf and cyclones in the golf 286 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 4: carpenteria are terribly erratic, so you know, the not keen 287 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: on providing a precise location where it might cross into 288 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: the Northern Territory. But even if it doesn't form into 289 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: a cyclone, there's going to be a lot of rough weather, 290 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: particularly on the east coast of Arnam land and that 291 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: will move into the all of the top end over 292 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: probably over the weekend and into next week. 293 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: So expect a lot of. 294 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: Rain, potential flooding maybe. 295 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: Well potentially, but we'll see what happens. So hope for 296 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: the best plan for the worst. 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And it's early days, I suppose, so 298 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: we'll all be keeping a close on it. Bash Yeah, 299 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: definitely home for the best plan for the worst is 300 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: good advice, I reckon, he Matt tell me. We know 301 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: as well over this period of time when we talk 302 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: about safety. 303 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: We spoke a lot about this last. 304 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: Week because there was that documentary which you'd need on 305 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,119 Speaker 1: Channel nine talking about the long term effects on crashes 306 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to people with long term injuries. Like 307 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: I said, we've spoken quite a bit about it. And 308 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, being safe on our roads, well you should 309 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: be at all times, but particularly as we lead into Christmas. 310 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 311 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: Look, Christmas is a time when people travel and it's 312 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: also a time of celebration, so that sometimes that involves alcohol. 313 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: So just please remember the fatal five and be safe 314 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: on our roads. There's thirty people that have died on 315 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: our roads this year. That's thirty families, and that won't 316 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,479 Speaker 4: be celebrating Christmas this year, and please don't become a statistic. 317 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: And you know, we talk about the number of lives 318 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: lost on our road, we don't talk about a road 319 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: toll anymore because you know, road toll infers that there's 320 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: a there's an acceptable price to pay for being on 321 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: our roads, and we just don't think that's right. 322 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: So please take care. 323 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I definitely echo that sentiment. Please do take care. 324 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Have you got any advice for our listeners. There's going 325 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: to be a lot of people going away on holidays 326 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks and over the January period. 327 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: Any advice for our listeners when it comes to their 328 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: properties and making sure that everything's secured so that they 329 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: don't well, don't end up the victims of a breaking Yeah. 330 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Katie. And it is a time when a lot 331 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: of people go away for holidays. You know, there's school 332 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: teachers and businesses that close down over Christmas. So on 333 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: the Crime Stuffers website and also the NTI Police website, 334 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 4: there is there's a list of ideas and recommendations and 335 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: suggestions that people can undertake to secure their properties and 336 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 4: not become a victim and then more importantly, not become 337 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: a repeat victim of crime. You know, if your property 338 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: is attractive, people. 339 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: May come back again and again. 340 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: So just please have a look at those have a 341 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: look at the websites and take some tips out of 342 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: there as to how you might be prevent yourself from 343 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: becoming a victimer and even worse, a repeat victim over 344 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: the Christmas period. 345 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have really quick one before I let you go, 346 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you'll have this info on you, 347 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: but we have just received a message from someone saying Katie, 348 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: there's been some kind of accident on Tral Road in 349 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Jinglely under the water gardens Bridge. Police and ambulance on site, 350 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: so I avoid that area for a while. Don't know 351 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: if you guys have much infol on. 352 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: Thath look I don't. Yeah, no, I haven't got an 353 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: update on that one. 354 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: You've probably been here the whole time there as that 355 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: info is coming through. So we'll keep an eye on 356 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: things because another one there just drove past a nasty 357 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: looking incident on Trail Road, so we'll see what we 358 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: can find out. Barsh Well, Acting Assistant Commissioner Matt Hollandby, 359 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: we really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very 360 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: much for coming in and speaking with us, and if 361 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: we don't see you before Christmas, all the very best 362 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: and a big thank you to our Northern Territory Police 363 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: Force for the work that you do. 364 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: Always a pleasure, Katie, and Merry Christmas to you and 365 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 4: also Merry Christmas. St you listeners and stay safe, thank you.