1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda Gemnas and Robbie Williams has joined us 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: right now in the flesh. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: How are you mate, I'm really really good Jersey. Lovely 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: to see you. I was just admiring your chin and 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: it is you could you could trim ear hair with that? 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: With that just it's it's cut glass. How that is that? 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: Just dna? I think it's his mother's got it. It's 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: so it's so impressive. Now listen, I'm thinking of having 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: a face lift, and I want to see one guy 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles three hundred and fifty grand for a facelift. 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: I'm from Stoke. That's not happening. But do you I 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: mean you don't need one, But does it ever cross 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: your mind to do any work on that beautiful face? 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Well, after you've said all this, Robbie, I'm and I'm 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: a bit of a tight ass. I'm not gonna I'm 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: not gonna spend any money. I'm not about the bags 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: under my eyes. 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: You might just go to office and get a bulldog 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: clip for the back of the head. That might do 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 3: the trick. 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Robie. It's lovely to see you both. 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: I'll love you to see you and I just want 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: to thank you for the music you've given us. A 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, I was in Tokyo with my sons, 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: whore in their twenties. They don't live at home anymore. 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: We're in a karaoke bar. The only Wessner is there 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 3: and we sang angels. I feel like crying. We hugged 28 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: each other and my oldest son said, I love you, mum, 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: and you were the backdrop to one of those bubbles 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: of bliss of my life. You must hear this a 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: lot from people saying what that your songs mean to them? 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't hear it enough to 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: be honest with you, but when I do, it means 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: the world to me because you sit there and you 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: write the eat songs and you hope that they have 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: a destination, and you hope that they reach a destination. 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: And when you hear those those stories, it's life affirming 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: to me. Let me out this. When did the boys 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: leave home? 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: Well, they're only twenty two and twenty four this year, 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: but they're studying in various places and living on campuses 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: and now in shared flats, so it's only been in 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: recent years that they've left home. And it's been quite 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: a difficult process. I think for many mums to let 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: them go and to have that that moment was just 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: so special. I think it was the lyrics through it all, 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: she offers me protection. I think that's what touched my 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: eldest son, and I felt validated for all, for all 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: the love I've given. 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: I felt, Wow, that's that's incredible. Did you never think too, 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: Because like I have half a mind on just making 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: my kids financially beholden to me so they never leave me. 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: That's when I came on a holiday, me to Tokyo. 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: I paid them to be Yeah. 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm just you know, my oldest is twelve, 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: my youngest is four. We've got a ways to go, 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: but I'm constant be told how quickly it goes, and 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: I just never I never want to be without them. 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: I never want that. I never want that silence in 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: my house ever. Again. It's hard, isn't it. 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: But the sign of a good parent, I think, Well, 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: we say the words is to raise kids that can go, 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: and our job is to let them do it. But 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: when you get there, g it's hard, but you do 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: have some time to go yet, Yeah, you got. 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Heaps of time. 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Every answer to me just pushed back against what you've 68 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: just said. And I know, I know that it's it's 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: what you have to do and what will happen, But 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: every answer to me just went, I'm. 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: So your kids your putty in their hands. I want 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: to trial by dead. Oh yeah, mate, you can have 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: whatever color you want. 74 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: You can get every trail bike. 75 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: When I saw the movie Better Man, I saw it 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: before everyone else. I wanted to one of those media 77 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: screenings and it was one of those things. I didn't 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: know that you were going to be a monkey in it. 79 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: And then I was watching. You came on the screen 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: at the start with director and you said and it 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: was sort of like a throw and by the way, 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: Robbie is going to be a monkey. And then when 83 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: it first came on, I went, actually he's a monkey. 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: And from this go to while of that movie, I 85 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: just I have such love for you. There was a 86 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: part at the end where I just wanted to give 87 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: you a big hug. I just said, Man, what a 88 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: life you've lived. But so many lessons learnt from it. 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: I think that it does this trick, and the trick is, well, 90 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't know this, but you know you 91 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: care more for cute things. You care more for animals, 92 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: which is why we all exist and still exist, because 93 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: when babies arrive, something happens eternally internally inside us. Where 94 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: we go, we must look after this and make sure 95 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: that this survives. And I think that's the geological trick 96 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: that the film plays is because like, I'm an asshole 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: in most of it, but he and when I'm an asshole, 98 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: you still have compassion and empathy for where where I'm 99 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: coming from and who I am and the reasons why 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: I'm being that a hole? Can I say that in 101 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: the morning? 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, I've done it, but. 103 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, but I don't know man, you know, yeah, 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: it weirdly works better than if a human was playing 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: a human. And I have the monkey to thank for that. 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: Was there also an element of that you didn't relief 107 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 3: that you didn't have to do it Because we've done 108 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: some ads for our radio show were little puppets played us. 109 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: I think, how great, I don't have to actually turn 110 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: up and do it. Was there an element of that 111 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: it was you, but you didn't have to be filmed 112 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: every day? 113 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: Well, I was going to play me, but then it 114 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: was in COVID and I would have actually have been 115 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: away from the family for three months and during COVID 116 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: when the world was absolutely crisis. There's no way I 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: could beat the other side of the world and allow 118 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: my four beautiful children and my wife to fend for themselves. 119 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: So John O'Davis stepped up and played me incredibly well, 120 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: and he's just brilliant and a wonderful person. But I guess, 121 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: so I guess. The short answer is, yeah, I'm glad 122 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: I didn't have to play me, and yeah, it turned 123 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: out perfectly. 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: And how do you reconcile yourself now when you're performing? 125 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: Do you still look at in the crowd for that 126 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: angry version of you saying you're no good? 127 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: Do you? 128 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: How do you beat that? 129 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you they used to drive the car. 130 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: They don't drive the car anymore. They're in the car 131 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: with me, but I drive it. I had this outer 132 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: body experience New Year's Eve when I was on ABC 133 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: doing thirty five minutes on the television. I was ill, 134 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: I was jet lagged. I'm sensitive and insane when I'm 135 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: not jet lagged and not ill. So you can imagine 136 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: getting on stage and having to hold it together while 137 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: the inside of your brain is just going I just 138 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: want to cry. Ah. And then I was like, oh, 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: I feel crazy. Oh okay, I will lean into the 140 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: crazy and do more crazy. And then all of a sudden, 141 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: I'm now thinking, oh, but my left nostril is streaming 142 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: with the cold. And then I was thinking, everybody on X, 143 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: everybody on Twitter is going to say Robbie Williams is 144 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: insane because he's on cocaine and look at him. The embarrassment. 145 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: And then I started to while I'm singing rock DJ 146 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: making up all of these titles for newspaper articles, boggle eyed, 147 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: Robbie Williams makes fan worried for him, makes fans worried 148 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: for his safety. So the monkeys, the disproving ones in 149 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: the audience have now taken on different shapes. But I 150 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: will say that while all of that is happening in 151 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: my brain, there's another side of me that is also 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: having an incredible time and really enjoying it. So I 153 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: don't know, there's there's a lot of knees to contend with. 154 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: Well good, and and then the elon Musk comes alonger 155 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: than you saved. 156 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about anything. Yeah he could 157 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: be the Yeah, he can be the crazy. 158 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: One on. 159 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Bobby Safe. Well, mate, I think you're fantastic, but I 160 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: think the movie better Man is so good. I'm gonna 161 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: go and see it again, and I'll actually pay for 162 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: it this time. Robbie Williams, it's always a treat to 163 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: talk to. 164 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: You love it you're talking. You look after yourself, You 165 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: take care, look after yourself, Robbie. 166 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: Better Man's is it Cinema's pick up a copy of 167 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: better Man soundtrack as well out now. It's full of bangers.